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jasonbigley 05-06-2009, 04:31 PM I want to express why I think that today's current TV programming is in a sad state. I remember years ago (back in the '80s and '90s), there was much more variety on the line ups. The programming back then was a bit cleaner. I remember on Friday nights on ABC (the TGIF line up), we had all these family shows. I felt like they were apart of my family and even today, they still feel like apart of my family. I am a 22 year old male and sometimes I feel like an outsider for watching older shows, but I don't care. The older shows make me feel good inside. The programming thats on now makes me sick. These are not family shows and most of these new characters have rotten personalities. I am also very sick of the same constant programming played repeatedly. I miss cable somewhat, but it would be a big waste of money today. I am so glad that DVD's are being made. If I had children today, I would definantly not let them watch prime time because I feel these shows are not for children to watch as a family. When I watch old promos and old shows on YouTube, sometimes I drop a tear from my eye because I miss this quality of programming so much.
Chocoholic 05-06-2009, 04:43 PM There's absolutely no morals on TV anymore. Anything goes nowadays. I won't be surprised if we see porn or hear the F-word on broadcast TV in a few years ;( There is also way too much violence and murder on TV too.
MickeyMac 05-06-2009, 05:13 PM Frankly I think good television has been on the decline since the mid 70's.
comicbookwriter 05-07-2009, 07:09 PM I want to express why I think that today's current TV programming is in a sad state. I remember years ago (back in the '80s and '90s), there was much more variety on the line ups. The programming back then was a bit cleaner. I remember on Friday nights on ABC (the TGIF line up), we had all these family shows. I felt like they were apart of my family and even today, they still feel like apart of my family. I am a 22 year old male and sometimes I feel like an outsider for watching older shows, but I don't care. The older shows make me feel good inside. The programming thats on now makes me sick. These are not family shows and most of these new characters have rotten personalities. I am also very sick of the same constant programming played repeatedly. I miss cable somewhat, but it would be a big waste of money today. I am so glad that DVD's are being made. If I had children today, I would definantly not let them watch prime time because I feel these shows are not for children to watch as a family. When I watch old promos and old shows on YouTube, sometimes I drop a tear from my eye because I miss this quality of programming so much.
Try being 34 years old and growing up with classic shows in reruns on UHF channels (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, Gunsmoke, Rat Patrol, Gilligan's Island, I Love Lucy, Honeymooners, etc.) and then having great TV on the prime time hours (Cosby Show, 3s Company, Cheers, Wonderful World of Disney, Family
Ties, Different Strokes, Good Times, All in the Family, Facts of Life, etc.) and watching the slow steady decline over the years.
The 1990s were my cut off point. When The Cosby Show ended, I swear it felt like TV became a meaner and more cynical place. Families were replaced by groups of friends who only cared about sex (the 90s NBC lineup on Thursdays) and dramas all became about police and crime and the dark side of life.
Science-fiction shows (mainly Star Trek) kept me feeling entertained and enlightened, but I rarely found things to laugh at after 1998 or so. Now, Family Guy keeps me entertained (its a mean-spirited show, but I love the 80s pop culture references) and even that turns me off sometimes.
I honestly hope that the economic crisis might cause a collapse of channels and we get to there being more shared experiences as a culture. Right now, TV is too fragmented and younger kids have no idea what entertainment is really about.
CBW
rsandcm1 05-08-2009, 09:32 AM I read an article one time and I agree with it 100%. It said that back in the 1970s and the 1980s, it was exciting to people on tv series to cross the dirty and crude line. But now we have crossed it and are way past. We have to slowly make our way back to the family-friendly side.
TV-aholic 05-08-2009, 09:56 AM There are still plenty of good TV shows on TV, but the basic premise is true.
I think the main reason for the decline was the ruling that allowed the Networks to Own their shows. Now they keep bad shows on the air, long past their prime, for the sole reason of more episodes in syndication. '
Just look at ABC, According to Jim and Scrubs should have ended a long time ago, but they keep producing the low rated, out dated comedies only to get more syndication dollars.
I bet NBC will do the same with My Name is Earl next season. The audience has left the series, but it will hit full syndication this fall. NBC will want to continue producing episodes to feed more money through syndication..
I don't think it is an accident that CBS is the ratings leader. Right Now, they have the more diverse lineup, as far as different production studios.
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Robert 13 05-08-2009, 10:45 AM The older shows make me feel good inside. The programming thats on now makes me sick.
Yeah, I feel the same way. I don't have cable either and I rarely ever watch live tv anymore. When I have, I didn't walk away with a good feeling. There is way too much violence on tv now. It's not easy to sit through. But there are also those that think what we find "quality tv" is lame and boring. I just don't find it healthy to absorb myself in a show that brings out bad feelings. The message I get from tv these days is "let's watch someone get ridiculed" and "let's see how pitiful someone will sink". It's sad that people really want to see other people become defeated. I do miss the old-school family sitcoms (however cliche the storylines may have become) and I also miss the reruns. TV wouldn't be so bad if some channels aired some classics. Those are hard to come by now in my area.
gidgetgrape 05-08-2009, 02:39 PM Why does almost every teenager have to dress like she's 27 and be "on the edge?" Don't teenagers go to school, have first crushes and get zits anymore?
TryN2BGood 05-08-2009, 03:11 PM Yes tv today is awful....:( even the commericals are pushing it!!
Goldilocks 05-08-2009, 04:12 PM Try being 34 years old and growing up with classic shows in reruns on UHF channels (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, Gunsmoke, Rat Patrol, Gilligan's Island, I Love Lucy, Honeymooners, etc.) and then having great TV on the prime time hours (Cosby Show, 3s Company, Cheers, Wonderful World of Disney, Family
Ties, Different Strokes, Good Times, All in the Family, Facts of Life, etc.) and watching the slow steady decline over the years.
The 1990s were my cut off point. When The Cosby Show ended, I swear it felt like TV became a meaner and more cynical place. Families were replaced by groups of friends who only cared about sex (the 90s NBC lineup on Thursdays) and dramas all became about police and crime and the dark side of life.
Science-fiction shows (mainly Star Trek) kept me feeling entertained and enlightened, but I rarely found things to laugh at after 1998 or so. Now, Family Guy keeps me entertained (its a mean-spirited show, but I love the 80s pop culture references) and even that turns me off sometimes.
I honestly hope that the economic crisis might cause a collapse of channels and we get to there being more shared experiences as a culture. Right now, TV is too fragmented and younger kids have no idea what entertainment is really about.
CBW
Well said, comicbookwriter! But try being 40-something and growing up with classics like MASH, the Courtship of Eddie's Father, Love American Style, The Partridge Family, The Waltons, Little House on the Prairie, Gunsmoke...and these weren't in re-runs yet when I was a child. They were primetime! Heck, even All in the Family was considered a bit "risque" when it first appeared.
You're right, in the 90's, the families were replaced by groups of friends who care about nothing but sex. A definite decline.
That's why I watch The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet any chance I get! Thank God for DVD's and cable channels who still have the intelligence to air the classics.
Raisingdad2004 05-08-2009, 04:46 PM I read an article today that expressed much of your sentiments.
It pointed out that the 'sitcom' isn't dead, people are watching more comedy than ever before - in syndication. They're watching shows like Home Improvement, Roseanne, Everybody Loves Raymond. People still want family shows and because networks aren't providing, they're watching old shows instead.
You can read it here: http://www.rbr.com/tv-cable/14460.html
The only family show around I think is Two and a Half Men, and as much as I enjoy that show, it's about a family but is far from family-friendly.
If networks would realize a multi-camera family sitcom is what most people want, they'd be out of this rut.
TVFactFan 05-08-2009, 09:31 PM Well There is a nice Workplace Comedy on ABC called Better Off Ted
But Not sure if ABC will rename BETTER OFF DEAD
Classicshowsgurl15 05-09-2009, 07:59 PM I want to express why I think that today's current TV programming is in a sad state. I remember years ago (back in the '80s and '90s), there was much more variety on the line ups. The programming back then was a bit cleaner. I remember on Friday nights on ABC (the TGIF line up), we had all these family shows. I felt like they were apart of my family and even today, they still feel like apart of my family. I am a 22 year old male and sometimes I feel like an outsider for watching older shows, but I don't care. The older shows make me feel good inside. The programming thats on now makes me sick. These are not family shows and most of these new characters have rotten personalities. I am also very sick of the same constant programming played repeatedly. I miss cable somewhat, but it would be a big waste of money today. I am so glad that DVD's are being made. If I had children today, I would definantly not let them watch prime time because I feel these shows are not for children to watch as a family. When I watch old promos and old shows on YouTube, sometimes I drop a tear from my eye because I miss this quality of programming so much.
Yeah i'm an 18 year old female and I agree with you. I love all the classic shows. There was more variety and the shows were cleaner. I know a lot of poeple my age don't watch most of the shows that I do, but I still love the shows and will always watch them. It's sad that TV is the way it is now. :(
Why does almost every teenager have to dress like she's 27 and be "on the edge?" Don't teenagers go to school, have first crushes and get zits anymore?I agree! All the shows now that are about teens have gossip and they are always so glamorized. Can't you have them go through normal teenage situations anymore?
dakert 05-09-2009, 10:10 PM Thank goodness there are plenty of good 50s-70s shows on DVD!
James 05-10-2009, 01:43 AM I want to express why I think that today's current TV programming is in a sad state. I remember years ago (back in the '80s and '90s), there was much more variety on the line ups. The programming back then was a bit cleaner. I remember on Friday nights on ABC (the TGIF line up), we had all these family shows. I felt like they were apart of my family and even today, they still feel like apart of my family. I am a 22 year old male and sometimes I feel like an outsider for watching older shows, but I don't care. The older shows make me feel good inside. The programming thats on now makes me sick. These are not family shows and most of these new characters have rotten personalities. I am also very sick of the same constant programming played repeatedly. I miss cable somewhat, but it would be a big waste of money today. I am so glad that DVD's are being made. If I had children today, I would definantly not let them watch prime time because I feel these shows are not for children to watch as a family. When I watch old promos and old shows on YouTube, sometimes I drop a tear from my eye because I miss this quality of programming so much.
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James 05-10-2009, 01:46 AM I honestly hope that the economic crisis might cause a collapse of channels and we get to there being more shared experiences as a culture.
I totally agree. Hopefully it will get to the point that the "Big 3" networks will need a bailout, and that their only source of rescue will be the Parents Television Council (or the American Family Association), and that the PTC (or AFA) will fire their executives who "push the envelope" instead of entertain. Hey, Obama fired the executive of General Motors!
USATVFAN 05-10-2009, 12:37 PM I read an article today that expressed much of your sentiments.
It pointed out that the 'sitcom' isn't dead, people are watching more comedy than ever before - in syndication. They're watching shows like Home Improvement, Roseanne, Everybody Loves Raymond. People still want family shows and because networks aren't providing, they're watching old shows instead.
You can read it here: http://www.rbr.com/tv-cable/14460.html
The only family show around I think is Two and a Half Men, and as much as I enjoy that show, it's about a family but is far from family-friendly.
If networks would realize a multi-camera family sitcom is what most people want, they'd be out of this rut.
I Agree 100%. Why do you think people are leaving Network Televisin for Cable Television, People want to see old classics and more Family Shows and the Three Networks are hardly showing any family shows and if they are they are not good ones, which make viewers tuurn away to networks like TBS, Nick At Nite, Hallmark, Lifetime and other Cable Channels, they are are showing old style family shows and Classics such as Everybody Loves Raymond, Roseanne, Home Improvement, The Cosby Show, Family Matters, The Nanny, The Golden Girls, M*A*S*H, The Fresh Prince, Andy Griffith Show, I Love Lucy, The Jeffersons, All In The Family, Three's Company, Seinfeld, Friends, Reba, Frasier. All those TV shows are bette then what on Network Television today, which is why people are turning to Cable Channels is because they are showing older Classics and better Family shows. Wich is also why DVD Sales do so good.
tanquant 05-10-2009, 03:51 PM I want to express why I think that today's current TV programming is in a sad state. I remember years ago (back in the '80s and '90s), there was much more variety on the line ups. The programming back then was a bit cleaner. I remember on Friday nights on ABC (the TGIF line up), we had all these family shows. I felt like they were apart of my family and even today, they still feel like apart of my family. I am a 22 year old male and sometimes I feel like an outsider for watching older shows, but I don't care. The older shows make me feel good inside. The programming thats on now makes me sick. These are not family shows and most of these new characters have rotten personalities. I am also very sick of the same constant programming played repeatedly. I miss cable somewhat, but it would be a big waste of money today. I am so glad that DVD's are being made. If I had children today, I would definantly not let them watch prime time because I feel these shows are not for children to watch as a family. When I watch old promos and old shows on YouTube, sometimes I drop a tear from my eye because I miss this quality of programming so much.
Very well said. I feel your pain. I miss the older shows too. That's why I stay watching youtube. There really is nothing on tv. Sometimes I may look at Seinfeld, Andy Griffith, Family Matters, Cosby Show but nothing new. I have yet to see an episode of 30rock or Three and a half men and I don't plan on it.
Chocoholic 05-11-2009, 09:25 AM The only current shows I watch are The Simpsons and American Idol. I'm with James. It's time for a network bailout. TV today isn't an example of how far we've come, but how low we've sunk.
Heidi Dawn 05-11-2009, 02:00 PM Primetime TV these days is what I refer to as 'Junk TV'. I mostly watch shows on speciality channels: HGTV, Discovery.
peachysquirt21 05-21-2009, 04:40 PM TV nowadays stinks to high heaven! I rarely tune in to new shows. When I do, the majority of them get canceled. I am sick to death of reality shows. That is all you see now. I think they also show way to many commercials during shows. Then they come out with a channel that shows classic shows & down the road they start adding shows that should not be on that channel & add reality shows, etc. If your gonna have a channel that shows classic tv, you do not add reality tv, etc. to it. For the most part, I watch more DVDs then I do TV.
bmasters9 05-21-2009, 04:50 PM For the most part, I watch more DVDs then I do TV.
You and me both.
waichingliu81 05-23-2009, 11:48 AM TV nowadays stinks to high heaven! I rarely tune in to new shows. When I do, the majority of them get canceled. I am sick to death of reality shows. That is all you see now. I think they also show way to many commercials during shows. Then they come out with a channel that shows classic shows & down the road they start adding shows that should not be on that channel & add reality shows, etc. If your gonna have a channel that shows classic tv, you do not add reality tv, etc. to it. For the most part, I watch more DVDs then I do TV.
it's like with mtv and cartoon network: mtv is supposed to be for music videos but these days it shows reality tv dreck, and cartoon network is no longer about cartoons, when the network is going to heavily rely on live -action in 99.9% of its shows. its ridiculous.
FanofRetroTV 05-26-2009, 12:08 PM I completely agree with everything people are saying on this board. TV today is just bad, no getting around that. The networks, writers, and actors have to stop this madness before TV becomes even worse, if possible. Thank good for netflix, I rent mostly classic tv shows!
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