View Full Version : TV Debate, Is Three's a Crowd a REVAMP or a Spinoff?
TVFactFan 04-25-2009, 12:43 AM Three's a Crowd to me was always a revamp because the jack tripper character who was the main character was still involved and was in a new situation kind of like Archie Bunkers Place.
what do you think?
Brian Damage 04-25-2009, 12:44 AM Spinoff C'mon Sol
TVFactFan 04-25-2009, 12:53 AM Spinoff C'mon Sol
There was no one spinned off Brian, Jack was the central character and stayed on the show and the show was Revamped like All in the Family became Archie Bunkers Place because Archie was still involved
Brian Damage 04-25-2009, 12:56 AM Jack was the character spun off.
catlover79 04-25-2009, 12:58 AM I think it was more of a continuation, but that's just my opinion.
TVFactFan 04-25-2009, 01:03 AM Jack was the character spun off.
Spun off to what???-lol He still was in Santa Monica and had his Restarunt and all he did was move out of APT 201-lol He never went anywhere-lol
JamesG 04-25-2009, 01:05 AM I vote spin-off.
catlover79 04-25-2009, 01:05 AM Spun off to what???-lol He still was in Santa Monica and had his Restarunt and all he did was move out of APT 201-lol He never went anywhere-lol
That's exactly why I said "continuation". :lol:
TVFactFan 04-25-2009, 01:05 AM I think it was more of a continuation, but that's just my opinion.
I guess you can say it was both because the central character was still involved and his situation was changed. So I will say Revamp/Continuation
Adamantium 04-25-2009, 07:28 AM This one I'm not sure about. I believe that "Archie Bunker's Place" is a Revamp/Continuation of "All in the Family." And I feel that "Mayberry R.F.D." is a Revamp/Continuation of "The Andy Griffith Show." Because I feel that if the series was titled "The Mayberry Show" all the way back in 1960, when Andy Griffith left in '68, it would have continued as it did... with Ken Berry taking over for Griffith. So there it's really just a title change to accommodate an exiting star.
In the case of "Three's a Crowd", I'm stumped. I mean it seems silly to spin-off the main character of a show, by just dumping the rest of the cast and adding some new cast members (and changing apartments). To me, a spin-off is taking a supporting character and giving them their own show. What's the point of spinning off the main character? They already *have* their own show?
So I guess I'm saying I feel that "Three's a Crowd" is a Revamp/Continuation of "Three's Company." It's like TC's last season, just without Janet, Terri, Mr. Furley and Larry.
I'm sure in the producer's minds and even the network's that it was a spin-off, though. But then again there was a time when movies were rated PG to R, with no PG-13 rating.
Jude The Obscure 04-25-2009, 08:34 AM This is just a question of semantics-- a sequel/continuation is just a variation on the spinoff. too bad the syndicators don't see the sequel series as worthy of syndicating with the parent series in one package--you don't see ABP following All in the Family, or Mayberry RFD with TAGS or 3's A Crowd with 3's Co.
(and before some wiseacre pipes in, yes, I know that Mayberry RFD is owned by Time Warner while TAGS is CBS/Paramount).
TVFactFan 04-25-2009, 01:57 PM This one I'm not sure about. I believe that "Archie Bunker's Place" is a Revamp/Continuation of "All in the Family." And I feel that "Mayberry R.F.D." is a Revamp/Continuation of "The Andy Griffith Show." Because I feel that if the series was titled "The Mayberry Show" all the way back in 1960, when Andy Griffith left in '68, it would have continued as it did... with Ken Berry taking over for Griffith. So there it's really just a title change to accommodate an exiting star.
In the case of "Three's a Crowd", I'm stumped. I mean it seems silly to spin-off the main character of a show, by just dumping the rest of the cast and adding some new cast members (and changing apartments). To me, a spin-off is taking a supporting character and giving them their own show. What's the point of spinning off the main character? They already *have* their own show?
So I guess I'm saying I feel that "Three's a Crowd" is a Revamp/Continuation of "Three's Company." It's like TC's last season, just without Janet, Terri, Mr. Furley and Larry.
I'm sure in the producer's minds and even the network's that it was a spin-off, though. But then again there was a time when movies were rated PG to R, with no PG-13 rating.
Exactly Adam, the Central Character was still on the show in the same city and still had his Bistro which means it was season 9 of Three's Company without his friends and Landlord
robyrob 04-25-2009, 02:38 PM its a sequel.
Brieannas21 04-30-2009, 03:57 PM I vote spinoff
TVFactFan 04-30-2009, 05:10 PM I vote spinoff
Can't be a spnioff if Jack was on the show
Jude The Obscure 04-30-2009, 06:53 PM what if it were centered around Janet and her new husband? spinoff?
Terri's new adventures in Hawaii? Spinoff?
Can we PLEASE end this mindless debate? :lol:
And here's for Sol, who is always sure he is right :horse:
:lol:
Brieannas21 04-30-2009, 07:03 PM Can't be a spnioff if Jack was on the show
What the Hell??? If Jack went on to his own show from another then that classify as a spinoff. I will never get your definition of a spinoff.
TVFactFan 04-30-2009, 07:08 PM What the Hell??? If Jack went on to his own show from another then that classify as a spinoff. I will never get your definition of a spinoff.
Jack never went to another show-lol He stayed on a show that changed the title of the show which was part of the REVAMPING. Jack never went anywhere.
GARFIELDKOOL 04-30-2009, 07:10 PM I think Three's a Crowd is a continuation from Three's Company. I don't see it as a spinoff or a revamp.
TVFactFan 04-30-2009, 07:16 PM I think Three's a Crowd is a continuation from Three's Company. I don't see it as a spinoff or a revamp.
Well revamp and continuation is kind of the same to me. Three's Company Reality continued on with some tweaking of Jack's situation
Brieannas21 04-30-2009, 07:54 PM Jack never went to another show-lol He stayed on a show that changed the title of the show which was part of the REVAMPING. Jack never went anywhere.
A spinoff is when a character or someone with a relation to a character get a show that is about them and their surroundings. Just like The Ropers were a SPINOFF, same with Three's A Crowd.
GARFIELDKOOL 04-30-2009, 07:57 PM A spinoff usually showcases a side character.
TVFactFan 04-30-2009, 08:02 PM A spinoff usually showcases a side character.
Thank you, not the Main Character
Brieannas21 04-30-2009, 08:13 PM The Simpsons is a spinoff of the Tracey Ullman Show, Joey is a spinoff of Friends.
A good example of a continuation would be Save By the Bell, Save By The Bell The College Years and Save By The Bell the New Class.
Three's A Crowd would be a spinoff of Three's Company.
Brieannas21 04-30-2009, 08:16 PM Thank you, not the Main Character
If you believe that then you should believe that GT's is a spinoff of Maude LOL
TVFactFan 04-30-2009, 08:18 PM The Simpsons is a spinoff of the Tracey Ullman Show, Joey is a spinoff of Friends.
A good example of a continuation would be Save By the Bell, Save By The Bell The College Years and Save By The Bell the New Class.
Three's A Crowd would be a spinoff of Three's Company.
Nope, it would be Three's Company-"The Vicky Era"
TVFactFan 04-30-2009, 08:19 PM If you believe that then you should believe that GT's is a spinoff of Maude LOL
Nope Good Times was just a regular show-lol
GARFIELDKOOL 04-30-2009, 08:21 PM The Simpsons is a spinoff of the Tracey Ullman Show, Joey is a spinoff of Friends.
A good example of a continuation would be Save By the Bell, Save By The Bell The College Years and Save By The Bell the New Class.
Three's A Crowd would be a spinoff of Three's Company.
I agree with all your examples Brie except the Three's Company. Not to get into a worthless debate like Solomon, but if Three's a Crowd would have starred Richard Kline, then it would have been a spinoff.
TVFactFan 04-30-2009, 08:23 PM I agree with all your examples Brie except the Three's Company. Not to get into a worthless debate like Solomon, but if Three's a Crowd would have starred Richard Kline, then it would have been a spinoff.
Yup which it made it Three's Company, the Vicky Era-LOL
TV Knowledge Fan 04-30-2009, 09:55 PM ...just as the original British version- "MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE"- was "succeeded" by "ROBIN'S NEST". A "spin-off" is where the original landlord & his wife from "MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE" were given their own series, "GEORGE & MILDRED" (as "THE ROPERS" were "spun off" from "THREE'S COMPANY" in 1979). Another example: "ARCHIE BUNKER'S PLACE" was a "revamped" version of "ALL IN THE FAMILY". See?
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Brieannas21 05-01-2009, 01:33 AM I agree with all your examples Brie except the Three's Company. Not to get into a worthless debate like Solomon, but if Three's a Crowd would have starred Richard Kline, then it would have been a spinoff.
I believe that if Joey can be a spinoff of Friends, then Three's A Crowd can be a Spinoff of Three's Company. Same thing just different story lines. It's just my opinion
TVFactFan 05-01-2009, 01:36 AM I believe that if Joey can be a spinoff of Friends, then Three's A Crowd can be a Spinoff of Three's Company. Same thing just different story lines. It's just my opinion
keep in mind that Friends didn't have any main characters so anyone of them would have made it a spinoff
Brieannas21 05-01-2009, 01:39 AM keep in mind that Friends didn't have any main characters so anyone of them would have made it a spinoff
They were all main characters just like on Three's Company.
TVFactFan 05-01-2009, 01:43 AM They were all main characters just like on Three's Company.
you know that jack was the main character
Brieannas21 05-01-2009, 01:53 AM you know that jack was the main character
I think that Jack, Chrissy, Janet and Terri were the main characters, and that Larry, the Ropers and Mr.Furley (sp) were the secondary characters.
Adamantium 05-01-2009, 08:04 AM ...just as the original British version- "MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE"- was "succeeded" by "ROBIN'S NEST". A "spin-off" is where the original landlord & his wife from "MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE" were given their own series, "GEORGE & MILDRED" (as "THE ROPERS" were "spun off" from "THREE'S COMPANY" in 1979). Another example: "ARCHIE BUNKER'S PLACE" was a "revamped" version of "ALL IN THE FAMILY". See?
:tv:
To me...
"All in the Family" and "Archie Bunker's Place" are the same show. ABP is just the later years, where they focus less on the family on more on the bar.
"The Golden Girls" and "The Golden Palace" are the same show. It's like the final season without Bea, where the girls work at a hotel.
"Three's Company" and "Three's a Crowd" are the same show. The producers dumped the cast, save Jack, replaced them, thus changing the story a bit and changed the title.
"The Andy Griffith Show" and "Mayberry R.F.D." are the same show. I know this one goes against Solomon says about the main character staying on the show. For this show (as I've mentioned in a previous post in this thread), it was simply the star left and they continued on without him. But because his name is the title of the show, they had to retitle it. It's like "Spin City." If it was called "The Michael J. Fox Show", when he left after the fourth season, they would have changed the title, and continued with Charlie Sheen. But since it was never called "TMJFS", they didn't have to do that. They just made the cast change.
"AfterMash", I'm willing to call a Spin-Off. "M*A*S*H" ended and they took a few of the characters (not Hawkeye) sent them home and went on from there.
"Corey in the House" is a Spin-Off of "That's So Raven" because it took a side character (Cory) sent him to the White House, with his dad, and took off from there. If it had been Raven who went to the White House and it was called "Raven in the House", I would consider it the White House season of "That's So Raven."
While I'm at it, "The Suit Life on Deck" is also a continuation of "Zack and Cody" in my book and not a spin-off.
One way I look at it is if I'm satisfied with not having those on DVD. I feel my Golden Girls collection is incomplete because I don't have Golden Palace. I feel my Three's Company collection is incomplete because I don't have Three's a Crowd and so on. Yet, I don't feel my Cheers collection is incomplete because I don't have Frasier (actually, I do have Frasier, but I'm making a point, lol).
Dusty's Fan 05-01-2009, 08:34 AM I say revamp because, like Archie Bunker's Place, the show served as a continuation or replacement of the original series using the main character.
Mayberry R.F.D. is a good example of a spin-off that could have been a revamp instead. Had Andy Griffith continued to appear in virtually every episode, which he did not, the series then I would have considered a revamp of TAGS.
I realize that it's a sticky question when it comes to a series like Friends and what follows, but, like Frasier, I consider Joey to be a spin-off. Friends is a rare case because we had so many strong lead actors all together.
Torgo 05-01-2009, 02:07 PM 'Three's A Crowd' is a revamp/continuation of 'Three's Company'. 'The Ropers' was a spin-off-
Just like 'Joanie Loves Chachi' was a spin-off from Happy Days, but 'Still The Beaver' was a continuation of 'Leave It To Beaver'.
robyrob 05-01-2009, 03:25 PM i'm with you man; its a completely separate show - its just a coincidence that they both had a character named Jack.
:P
70s show watcher 05-02-2009, 03:32 AM i remember when the show was first announced it was touted as a revamp so i will agree and say revamp
TVFactFan 05-02-2009, 12:43 PM i remember when the show was first announced it was touted as a revamp so i will agree and say revamp
Yeah you can see that by just looking at the last ep wth Janet and Terri leaving and Jack in his new apt. After Vicky's Father come in Three's Company was changed to Three's a Crowd.
And Three's Company never had a finale, it was a TRANSITION episode
Jude The Obscure 05-03-2009, 11:45 AM Can we close this thread now? :horse:
:brent
TVFactFan 05-03-2009, 02:03 PM Can we close this thread now? :horse:
:brent
Yeah I think since 90% of the people agree Three's Company is a revamp it probably can be closed
Duster76 05-20-2009, 08:03 PM I would use the term comanion series. A revamp is the same series that undergoes some significant change, but maintains the same basic operating platform. Laverne and Shirley (move to California), Gimme A Break (death of Dolph Sweet), Valerie (title change to The Hogan Family as star walks off series) are examples of a revamped series. Fair Exchange, Hazel and It's About Time are three more examples of this.
A companion series features the main character (and that's the key, main character) of a series moving to a newly titled series with a different supporting cast at the conclusion of the original series.
McGillicuddy 05-21-2009, 06:02 PM Wheather its a revamp or a spin-off, I don't understand why it did not come out on dvd following the 8th season of Three's Company. To me the series is not complete with out 3's A Crowd. Com' on Anchor Bay! Release the final season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, Argue about that instead!
angiefan 12-21-2009, 11:28 AM a spinoff. jack moved out of his aptartment and moved in with his bratty girlfriend,vicky,Who was afraid of Commitment.I'm not afraid of marriage. her parents spoiled her rotton.She should've had a sibling.
ThomasE 12-28-2009, 01:37 AM A main character can be put into a new setting which can be called a spinoff (i.e.
"Billy"/"Head of the Class"). "Spinoff" does not limit itself to supporting characters. Some fail to see that. Three's company's last episode was a finale Solomon. Janet got married, Terri moved to Hawaii and Jack moved in with Vicky which was a link to Three's A Crowd. So the last episode was a finale and a transition. Not one or the other. "Crowd" is deemed as a spinoff though. In my opinion, it does seem like a revamped conitnuation though. It is like a revamped, black sheep season nine with major changes. Archie Bunker's Place is the same thing. If I were running a station that ran All in the family, I would air Archie Bunker's Place after season nine of AITF.
AMackII 03-05-2020, 08:11 PM It’s Just a Spin-off though but it did not last long
TVFactFan 03-05-2020, 08:27 PM Not a spinoff it's an extension of the Three's Company reality like
Archie Bunkers place
SitcomsHeydayfan 03-06-2020, 01:48 AM There was no one spinned off Brian, Jack was the central character and stayed on the show and the show was Revamped like All in the Family became Archie Bunkers Place because Archie was still involved
Since Jack was the clear star of Three's Company that's enough for a spin-off. Plus Larry did make an appearance.
TVFactFan 03-06-2020, 01:50 AM Since Jack was the clear star of Three's Company that's enough for a spin-off. Plus Larry did make an appearance.
if the main character is still on the show its not a spinoff
SitcomsHeydayfan 03-06-2020, 04:11 AM if the main character is still on the show its not a spinoff
It depends on your definition of "spinoff" but everywhere I've seen Three's a Crowd described it was as a spinoff.
Even the E! True Hollywood story on Three's Company called it a spinoff. Even John Ritter HIMSELF called it a spinoff! :p :cool:
I've never heard it called a revamp till you said that so you're kind of alone on an island buddy. :wave:
Duster76 03-06-2020, 08:14 PM I wouldn't debate anyone who wanted to call it a spinoff but it's really is a follow-along or companion series to the original. Archie Bunker's Place, Mayberry RFD are additional examples.
TVFactFan 03-07-2020, 01:44 AM It depends on your definition of "spinoff" but everywhere I've seen Three's a Crowd described it was as a spinoff.
Even the E! True Hollywood story on Three's Company called it a spinoff. Even John Ritter HIMSELF called it a spinoff! :p :cool:
I've never heard it called a revamp till you said that so you're kind of alone on an island buddy. :wave:
Since the Bistro was part of TC along with the star Jack Tripper, I always called it season 8 of TC :lol:
SitcomsHeydayfan 03-07-2020, 03:47 AM Since the Bistro was part of TC along with the star Jack Tripper, I always called it season 8 of TC :lol:
You mean season 9. TC ran for 8 seasons! :cool: :p
Edward216 03-09-2020, 12:08 AM Three's A Crowd's a spinoff.
Ed.
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