View Full Version : Another One Bites The Dust? Borders Bookstore May Shut Down
Brian Damage 03-29-2009, 07:20 PM Yesterday's post about Borders closing down its unprofitable CD and DVD sections prompted a tip from the owner of a small music label. He says his distributor has already cut off shipments to Borders once for nonpayment (in November 2008), and on Monday the distributor warned labels that they'll have to agree not to hold him "liable on any future shipments to Borders in case they file for bankruptcy." Borders' CFO left in January, which is rarely a good sign for a troubled company. And this morning, the Detroit Free Press notes that the bookseller is facing being delisted from the New York Stock Exchange. We may not have to wait long to find out; CEO Ron Marshall is hosting a conference call with analysts and investors next week.
http://consumerist.com/5183629/is-borders-about-to-go-under
That sucks.
I like the Borders store in the Time Warner Center.
catlover79 03-29-2009, 08:33 PM What a shame. I've always liked Borders.
Hollow 03-29-2009, 08:34 PM oh dear. ohno: i love that store.
PunkyP0WER 03-29-2009, 09:03 PM although i feel bad for the employees i can't stand that store, so i will not miss it. very high priced and not very good selection.
browneyes106 03-29-2009, 11:25 PM I like Borders but I never really buy CD's or DVD's from there.
OH Nuts! 03-29-2009, 11:30 PM It's actually very scary seeing all the stores that are closing. First Circuit City, now the 2 Virgin Megastores in NYC, and Borders is now not looking in such great shape. Well, Virgin and Borders did have high prices so I'm not too surprised. It's very easy to find cheaper DVDs & CDs elsewhere. (I'm just grateful I have a job and am crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.:() I've never seen the economy this bad.
icecream 03-30-2009, 12:37 AM NOOO :(
Mr. Television 03-30-2009, 12:42 AM I liked to buy DVD movies at Borders. They had a great selection and the prices weren't that bad. I don't know where I'm going to shop for them now because Borders did have some rare classic movies in their collection. The TV DVDS were really expensive though so I rarely bought them there.
Family Ties Forever! 03-30-2009, 01:37 AM That's a shame. Though I hardly ever buy there because of the high prices.
80sTrivia 03-30-2009, 05:57 AM I hope this isn't true... I really enjoy Borders! :(
Sharop 03-30-2009, 07:47 AM NO! Not Borders!
I really like the place. Plus, they have many books that they don't have at the bookshop in my town.
EDIT: Would this apply to Borders stores in the UK?
browneyes106 03-30-2009, 09:09 AM I liked to buy DVD movies at Borders. They had a great selection and the prices weren't that bad. I don't know where I'm going to shop for them now because Borders did have some rare classic movies in their collection. The TV DVDS were really expensive though so I rarely bought them there.
I noticed the classic movie collections there too. My brother used to buy those kinds of DVD's from borders. The TV DVD's seemed to cost 10-15 dollars more then they would be at Target or Wal-Mart.
robyrob 03-30-2009, 10:14 AM they need to push their online presence heavily, even if it means selling through Amazon or partnering with someone else, or they just aren't going to survive.
gilligan fanatic 03-30-2009, 10:45 AM Borders is way to expensive. Everything in there is list price.
Chocolate Moose 03-30-2009, 11:27 AM that's a shame, it's such a lively, well stocked, friendly place to shop. I adore their bargain books for gifts (mostly cookbooks).
Sharop 03-30-2009, 12:32 PM I suppose the DVDs may be expensive but I've always enjoyed the shop. I love the atmosphere and they have quite a wide selection.
Does anyone know if this applies to the company in the UK or just in America? i.e. if Borders closed down in the States would the same happen in the UK or could it continue to operate here?
Chocoholic 03-30-2009, 03:07 PM It's scary seeing all these big chains going under. What's next?
janet42 03-31-2009, 09:00 PM I'm sorry about the closing, but I usually shop at Barnes & Noble because their stuff is easier to find.
PunkyP0WER 03-31-2009, 09:12 PM I'm sorry about the closing, but I usually shop at Barnes & Noble because their stuff is easier to find.
i agree. anytime i've ever gone in there their stuff is not organized and the store itself is not set up in a way you can easily find stuff. i always felt like i was in a maze going in there. the topper was buying a single dvd, not anything special it wasn't some fancy boxset or special edition or imported etc. and they wanted like $36 for it.
Sharop 04-01-2009, 05:44 AM i agree. anytime i've ever gone in there their stuff is not organized and the store itself is not set up in a way you can easily find stuff. i always felt like i was in a maze going in there. the topper was buying a single dvd, not anything special it wasn't some fancy boxset or special edition or imported etc. and they wanted like $36 for it.
That's not the case at the one I go to - not every Borders is the same, I suppose. I hope it stays open, although I don't know if this possible closure applies to shops in the UK, so maybe we're safe.
Still, I went into Borders yesterday and spent £9:49. So they got a little bit more money. It would have been more but one of the books I bought had some damage so the woman marked it down from £2:50 to £1:00.
comedyfreak 04-01-2009, 05:57 AM I've only been to Borders a couple of times. Everything is expensive there.
JamesG 04-01-2009, 02:21 PM I'm a shopper at B&N.
I've only been to BORDERS once; and that was for a book signing.
Still sad to see a big store close.
Sharop 04-01-2009, 04:22 PM Maybe some positive thinking could help.
waichingliu81 04-03-2009, 02:16 PM well the two borders bookstores in central london, one in oxford circus and the other on charing cross road are still in business. though with the oxford circus branch, whenever i visit borders, there tends to be more customers there than the charing cross borders. it is a good place to find books and plus you can sit down with a book and read it instore.
if any of you ever do visit london, you can always pay a visit to borders in london.
catlover79 04-03-2009, 03:17 PM It's scary seeing all these big chains going under. What's next?
My feelings exactly. :eek:
Borders is way to expensive. Everything in there is list price.
I signed up for a Borders Rewards card, (it's not a credit card) which doesn't cost anything & each week they email me coupons for 20% to 50% off. I usually don't shop there unless I have a coupon to use but I do like the store. They have a great selection of books, DVD's & CD's. I also like their coffee bar. I sure hope they don't close it down.
OH Nuts! 04-04-2009, 12:16 AM I noticed the classic movie collections there too. My brother used to buy those kinds of DVD's from borders. The TV DVD's seemed to cost 10-15 dollars more then they would be at Target or Wal-Mart.
Exactly. That's what I found too.
KurtfromPitts 04-04-2009, 01:02 PM :eek2: Borders closing?:eek:
catlover79 04-04-2009, 01:27 PM Exactly. That's what I found too.
Same here, but I never bought DVDs from them - just books.
Dusty's Fan 04-05-2009, 04:02 PM I'm a Borders Rewards member too, as mentioned there's no cost to the membership. Members can always get coupons for 20% off (try a Google search for "Borders 20% coupon") and the higher occasional discounts are even better.
I like B & N too, but when Borders does their 40% off coupon, you can bet I'll print it and use it!
I got this email from Borders Bookstore today.
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There aren't any Borders around me anymore (all we ever had here was in the mall called "Borders Express"), but I have been there and wouldn't miss it. I feel for any employees that are affected, though.
Books-A-Million is my favorite book store. I love book stores.
browneyes106 02-18-2011, 02:07 AM I figured this would eventually happen. I do feel for the employees. I have a Kindle and I do see some of the advantages of e-readers and e-books but I still like buying real copies of certain books and going to bookstores. I will the Borders store that I occasionally go to.
catlover79 02-18-2011, 04:42 AM There's a Borders in the town next to me, and sadly, that's one of the stores slated to close. A shame - all the employees were very nice to me and it was such a cozy atmosphere. If B&N didn't have what I was looking for, I could always drive a few miles down the road to Borders and see if they had it. :(
bmasters9 02-18-2011, 07:18 AM Borders is way to expensive. Everything in there is list price.
Tell me about it! I learned that the hard way at the end of '07, when I went to one in Annapolis, MD with my sister Michel. The first release of "The Fall Guy" was $59.99! Utterly outrageous.
MickeyMac 02-18-2011, 12:58 PM If you have an independent book store in your town, support them by shopping there.
MrCleveland 02-18-2011, 02:36 PM I've never bought anything at Borders, but...damn. Another place that's gone.
Schmoopie 02-20-2011, 10:19 AM I didn't realize this thread was from back in 2009, but I did read the other day that Borders is closing a lot of their stores. I like Borders but the one by me is always out of things. My husband bought me a Michael Buble CD for Christmas and I had actually wanted the extended version. Our closest Borders was out of it, but they sent us to another store that was a bit of a drive to pick it up. I hate those e-books more than ever because I think they are at least somewhat to blame for these bookstores closing down. My most favorite bookstore of all is Powell's in Portland, but I just read a little while ago that they had to lay off 31 employees. Doesn't sound like many, considering that they have 6 stores-one of them taking up an entire city block-but it's very scary...
browneyes106 02-20-2011, 03:14 PM I didn't realize this thread was from back in 2009, but I did read the other day that Borders is closing a lot of their stores. I like Borders but the one by me is always out of things. My husband bought me a Michael Buble CD for Christmas and I had actually wanted the extended version. Our closest Borders was out of it, but they sent us to another store that was a bit of a drive to pick it up. I hate those e-books more than ever because I think they are at least somewhat to blame for these bookstores closing down. My most favorite bookstore of all is Powell's in Portland, but I just read a little while ago that they had to lay off 31 employees. Doesn't sound like many, considering that they have 6 stores-one of them taking up an entire city block-but it's very scary...
I agree e-books are somewhat to blame for bookstores closing down. They have gained more popularity in the past few years. I think that combined with other things has lead to the decline of bookstores. A lot of bookstores sometimes get used as libraries in which people just go in and take books off the shelf read them and then leave the store without buying anything. I think online shopping is sort to blame. I think a lot of people use online shopping more for books that are hard to find or rarely found in brick and mortar stores.
As for printed books, there were always be a market for them but it will be a smaller market. Many people probably will never get into e-books/e-readers. I know a few people who have tried e-readers and didn't like reading off an electronic screen.
JamesG 02-21-2011, 07:44 PM I agree e-books are somewhat to blame for bookstores closing down. They have gained more popularity in the past few years. I think that combined with other things has lead to the decline of bookstores. A lot of bookstores sometimes get used as libraries in which people just go in and take books off the shelf read them and then leave the store without buying anything. I think online shopping is sort to blame. I think a lot of people use online shopping more for books that are hard to find or rarely found in brick and mortar stores.
As for printed books, there were always be a market for them but it will be a smaller market. Many people probably will never get into e-books/e-readers. I know a few people who have tried e-readers and didn't like reading off an electronic screen.
I bought a Kindle a few months ago and I'm not quite sure if I really like it. After using it for a while I find reading an actual book to be much better.
It might be good for being on the go (on vacation), but for sitting alone at home I enjoy reading an actual book much better than this thing.
One thing that annoys me about the Kindle is how it handles the footnotes.
I downloaded Dracula for free (public domain) and when I go to look at a footnote it goes to the top of the page. I have to scroll down to find the actual note I'm looking for; it don't do it automatically.
browneyes106 02-21-2011, 09:23 PM I bought a Kindle a few months ago and I'm not quite sure if I really like it. After using it for a while I find reading an actual book to be much better.
It might be good for being on the go (on vacation), but for sitting alone at home I enjoy reading an actual book much better than this thing.
One thing that annoys me about the Kindle is how it handles the footnotes.
I downloaded Dracula for free (public domain) and when I go to look at a footnote it goes to the top of the page. I have to scroll down to find the actual note I'm looking for; it don't do it automatically.
I received a Kindle as a gift several months back and there are some things I don't like about it. The big plus side of the e-readers like you mentioned is for traveling or vacations. When I have read from my Kindle at home, there are times I wish I was reading an actual book. I also the footnotes issue you mentioned. Another issue with public domain books and e-readers is that there some issues with how the data is transferred to e-readers, many people have spotted errors in chapter orderings and missing words. I downloaded a few public domain books but I read them back in school and haven't read them on my Kindle to see if there are any errors.
My aunt received a Kindle as a gift from my uncle and reading off the screen bothered her right away. She ended up giving to my cousin. I have a friend who bought a Nook, because he works in a profession in which he moves around a lot and he wanted to decrease his book collection. My friend is the type of reader who spends his weekends or days off reading 6 or more hours and he said after reading 3 hours his eyes were bothering him. Another friend of mine bought a Kindle and sold it after a month. She was another who didn't like reading off the screen and she said most e-books that she is interested in aren't that much cheaper than real books. Some e-books do retail at the same price of the physical copies.
There are always going to be people who will buy real books and will always prefer them to e-books. Some people have embraced both. I know a couple of people who only use e-readers for stuff like gossip books, celeb bios and TV tie in books.
tmac81s 02-22-2011, 04:15 AM Borders is way to expensive. Everything in there is list price.
That's the truth. Probably why not a lot of people buy CDs/DVDs from there. Although it is much more relaxing to shop/brouse there that the big retailers, I've only bought a few of these items there because I wanted them right away and couldn't find them anywhere else. Once in awhile you will find a good deal but overall it's too expensive.
Borders is exactly like Suncoast, expensive but they have books that you can not find at Barnes and Noble...
biffbronson 02-22-2011, 08:58 AM For the physical stores, I find Barnes & Noble to be more expensive than Borders because it's pretty easy to get "33% off" coupons good on anything in the Borders stores. The most I ever get off from B/N is 10% or 15%. In the stores though B/N has a better selection and also better aisles of bargain books. My local Borders is closing and I'd noticed their selection had become weak over the last year or so. They were ordering pretty conservatively and I was buying less and less.
The thing that bugs me is how hard Borders employees were forced to try to sell people on paid upgraded memberships at Christmastime. Maybe a pretty good deal but a bad deal if they knew the local store was set to disappear in less than 3 months!!!!
Schmoopie 02-25-2011, 04:29 AM I spoke too soon because I just noticed the other day that the Borders at my local mall is closing. It's a huge store and I thought for sure that they would keep that location open.
browneyes106 02-25-2011, 05:16 PM I spoke too soon because I just noticed the other day that the Borders at my local mall is closing. It's a huge store and I thought for sure that they would keep that location open.
There were some rumors when the bankruptcy was announced that the larger Borders stores would be spared, but sadly many large ones are closing.
biffbronson 02-26-2011, 11:24 AM Yes -- I was surprised too, the one in my area was pretty big. They also had gone to the trouble of resurfacing their parking lot not long ago. It seemed to be doing better than "underperforming," but as I mentioned I did see their overall selection dwindle.
Ohio8 02-26-2011, 01:59 PM The Borders store in Mentor's slated to be closed. The Toledo store, which is at the Franklin Park Mall, was spared.
TVFactFan 02-26-2011, 05:36 PM Yesterday's post about Borders closing down its unprofitable CD and DVD sections prompted a tip from the owner of a small music label. He says his distributor has already cut off shipments to Borders once for nonpayment (in November 2008), and on Monday the distributor warned labels that they'll have to agree not to hold him "liable on any future shipments to Borders in case they file for bankruptcy." Borders' CFO left in January, which is rarely a good sign for a troubled company. And this morning, the Detroit Free Press notes that the bookseller is facing being delisted from the New York Stock Exchange. We may not have to wait long to find out; CEO Ron Marshall is hosting a conference call with analysts and investors next week.
http://consumerist.com/5183629/is-borders-about-to-go-under
Well I don't think it takes a genius to know that CD's are obsolete now due to itunes and other music downloading sites and you can purchase DVD's from ebay and amazon.com-LOL
Ohio8 08-09-2013, 06:14 PM The Borders store in Mentor's slated to be closed. The Toledo store, which is at the Franklin Park Mall, was spared.
Update: The Toledo store was also closed.
angiefan 08-10-2013, 07:58 AM the borders bookstore at miller road closed down by another store that closed down,circuit city, i've never been there.i loved to go to borders and get books. and dvds and cds. i miss them. the barns and noble in genesee valley center doesn't have the books borders does.
RoryGilmore 08-10-2013, 05:44 PM Everything is on Amazon anyway. I love going to bookstores but always get better prices from Amazon
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