http://www.duggback.com/people/Mother_Sets_Fire_To_Man_Who_Raped_Her_Daughter/

All right Mom!!! You finally got it RIGHT!!! YAY!!

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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They should have given that woman a medal. The real injustice is that she even got arrested.

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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They should have given that woman a medal. The real injustice is that she even got arrested.
DITTO!!! What a mom!!! :cool:

Screw waiting for the justice system. :lol:

i absolutely love what she did. i can't think of a better thing to happen to him than dying in agony at the hands of one of the people he hurt.

legally speaking, it was right of them to arrest her. it was an act of revenge, not defense. though if i were her, they could execute me for all i cared, i'd just be glad i gave him what he deserved. death as a punishment for people like him is one of the things that i think shouldn't be enforced by the law, but is just morally right in select cases.

Whether you feel she was justified or not, it was still an act of revenge and
it was still against Spanish law. I know how the families of rape victims feel,
but revenge is never the answer. Let the law take its course. Of course, I
know my opinion on this is not going to be popluar, but it is the right opinion
regardless of how other people on here feel and I know Janice would fully
agree with me.

I don't blame her for what she did. That pervert deserved it. A parent has the right to protect his or her child by any means neccessary.

I don't blame her for what she did. That pervert deserved it. A parent has the right to protect his or her child by any means neccessary.

While I don't blame her for what she did, she still was outside the law when
she did it. Anger at injustice does not excuse violating the laws of your
country.

Whether you feel she was justified or not, it was still an act of revenge and
it was still against Spanish law. I know how the families of rape victims feel,
but revenge is never the answer. Let the law take its course. Of course, I
know my opinion on this is not going to be popluar, but it is the right opinion
regardless of how other people on here feel and I know Janice would fully
agree with me.

This is no surprise, Everytime a story like this is posted you always see things from the side of the law and unless someone in your family has been a rape victim (and I hope they haven't) then you can't really say you know how they feel.

This is no surprise, Everytime a story like this is posted you always see things from the side of the law and unless someone in your family has been a rape victim (and I hope they haven't) then you can't really say you know how they feel.

That is not fair, Zoneboy. I try to see things from both sides-the law and the
victims of these crimes. What I am just trying to say is that there is still law
and without law there would be no kind of order at all. What is it with a large
number people on here who think that the law should be just whatever law
they decide? I thank god we do not live in such a society and that we live
in a society with laws and with god. God will one day judge those who do
evil and will punish them if they have not repented of their sins.

I also think there are people on here who enjoy posting stories like this just
to see what kind of reaction these stories get. That sort of thing makes me
sad and disturbs me.

Let the law take its course.
read the article, he already did his time and he was continuing to taunt the mother about what he did.

indeed it was right of them to arrest her and i'm not saying you should personally believe that revenge is right, but the least you can do is have empathy for other people. you've clearly never experienced raging emotions such as what the mother of the rape victim was feeling, so don't judge.

read the article, he already did his time and he was continuing to taunt the mother about what he did.

indeed it was right of them to arrest her and i'm not saying you should personally believe that revenge is right, but the least you can do is have empathy for other people. you've clearly never experienced raging emotions such as what the mother of the rape victim was feeling, so don't judge.
Exactly. I'm not promoting vigilantes, but life isn't black and white. There's a lot of gray in matters like this.

I have to admit I am all in favor of vigilante justice. The reason people call the police is because they have guns. Cut the middle man out and solve the problem yourself, and the will free the police to address other issues. Not saying everyone should do that, but it is an option.

Now thats just my view only.

People don't have to experience a situation to have an opinion. To say so, it would need apply to every discussion thread. Lee's right, that's not fair to put that stipulation on this debate. If I had a daughter, and this happened, there's a good chance that I'd light the guy on fire. I'd still be wrong. Vigilante justice doesn't work. I don't to revert back to the lawless times of the Wild Wild West, and that's where it would end up over time. I don't want a society where people can light lunatics on fire. Sure, we all get an adrenaline rush when we read these stories, but vigilantism is not the way to go.

There are too many animals in this world, so who decides who gets punished and how they're punished? You can't allow one case, and not others. There are too many variables, too many opportunites for things to go wrong, i.e., mistaken identities, avengers who are disturbed themselves, false claims for revenge (a scorned woman, a teenager mad at a teacher or another student, etc). Too many opportunities for people to make up stories. What if the guy standing next to the rapist caught fire too, or if the bar caught fire and a dozen innocent people died, would she still be a hero? What if the relatives of those dozen people decided to extract revenge? Where does it end? For every one act of revenge that goes right, 100 can go dreadfully wrong. Again, who decides? Our justice system is far from perfect, but it's the best we have, in my opinion.

What I tend to notice is that here (and I've been reading about this elsewhere) that people tend to pick sides as if there is a right and a wrong one. The fact remains that there really is no clean cut answer to this set of circumstances.


However, I will say that murder is never an acceptable solution to a problem. Lives should only be taken in defense and I don't think this woman can argue she did this act in defense; clearly it was not.

A decision like this has effects through lifetime - the mother, the daughter, the father, the rapist, and the rapist's family have been all changed due to this one act. It will make an interesting court case I will say that much.

I believe this woman clearly needs mental help as it clearly said she is disturbed. I don't think prison is the answer but until things get cleared she should definitely be under evaluation. I also don't think she should get death for this.

Clearly nobody knows how they will act if they have never faced any extreme situation or feelings themselves. Everyone can act calm, cool, and collected behind a computer screen and play lawyer where there is absolutely no threat. It's amazing what ordinary people are capable of doing in un-ordinary circumstances. I wanted to stress by "ordinary people" I mean people with no combat skills, law enforcement experience, or training of any kind.



Regarding vigilante justice, do we really want to resort to the days of the West where everybody can do anything and the police had little to no control about what went on?

I made it clear in other threads that I own firearms so for me it is literally very easy to kill someone should I want.

If someone decides to steal from me or cheat me out of money, which has happened in the past, would anyone favor me walking up to that person's house and shooting them in the head when they answered the door? Would anyone here take my side if I did this?

I don't know how people will react but if I did this for real I don't think I will be getting a lot of public support.



Laws are there to set boundaries and if people take the law to do what they want with it then there are no boundaries. It can be very dangerous regarding people's lives.

I have to admit I am all in favor of vigilante justice. The reason people call the police is because they have guns. Cut the middle man out and solve the problem yourself, and the will free the police to address other issues. Not saying everyone should do that, but it is an option.

Now thats just my view only.
i agree that some malicious acts of violence such as this are justified morally, but the world would be chaotic if they were justified legally because we all have different personal morals. some people in law enforcement may think the rapist deserved to die and others may disagree. that's why we have established boundaries, so that everyone is put to the same standards.

A decision like this has effects through lifetime - the mother, the daughter, the father, the rapist, and the rapist's family have been all changed due to this one act. It will make an interesting court case I will say that much.

That's a good point there. I don't feel much sympathy for the rapist but I do for his family. Even if he was an evil guy, he was still their relative.

The problem is, his family will have been hurt by this and they haven't done anything to deserve that.

I don't blame the mother for doing it, but yes, she was still wrong to do it and had to be arrested.


That said, I find it so ironic that had this happened in a country in the middle east (like Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.) there's a good chance that the rape victim would have been the one set afire and believe it or not, they would have felt justified doing it because she would have shamed the family by being raped.

So there's also countries where the law itself isn't right. What a messed up, complicated world we're living in these days.

That is not fair, Zoneboy. I try to see things from both sides-the law and the
victims of these crimes. What I am just trying to say is that there is still law
and without law there would be no kind of order at all. What is it with a large
number people on here who think that the law should be just whatever law
they decide? I thank god we do not live in such a society and that we live
in a society with laws and with god. God will one day judge those who do
evil and will punish them if they have not repented of their sins.

I also think there are people on here who enjoy posting stories like this just
to see what kind of reaction these stories get. That sort of thing makes me
sad and disturbs me.

Yeah, but Lee, that's the "fun" of posting anything on this board - you see the respondents as they really are, with their own individual feelings and takes on each thread's subject. It's been a great way to get to know everyone so far - for me, at least.

Yeah, but Lee, that's the "fun" of posting anything on this board - you see the respondents as they really are, with their own individual feelings and takes on each thread's subject. It's been a great way to get to know everyone so far - for me, at least.
I feel the same way. It's nice to have a place to vent your spleen and get other people's reactions.

This is no surprise, Everytime a story like this is posted you always see things from the side of the law and unless someone in your family has been a rape victim (and I hope they haven't) then you can't really say you know how they feel.

Careful, they might strip you of your moderator title.