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JamesG
02-17-2009, 10:12 AM
We know, we know … another "best of" list.

But this isn't any old list – our Top 40 TV Shows of the '90s is just the first in a new series of countdowns in which we'll put our AOL Television seal of approval on the top 40 series of every decade.

Every other month we'll tackle another decade, going all the way back to the '50s, to recall the best comedies (hello 'Lucy'), the best primetime soaps (do you remember who shot JR?), the best cop shows, animated series and groundbreaking TV shows.

So kick off 50 years of silver-screen bests with the greatest shows of the '90s, including everyone from 'Beavis,' 'Buffy' and 'Simpsons' to 'Freaks and Geeks' and teens on the 'Creek.' -- By Kimberly Potts



40. Party of Five (1994-2000)

Lost leading man Matthew Fox owes his career to this soapy drama, about five siblings who vow to raise each other after the deaths of their parents. Oldest bro Charlie (Fox) wasn't ready for the responsibility that was suddenly thrust upon him, nor were his sibs, which led to frequent heartbreak and the occasional triumph, as the Salinger clan (including Neve Campbell, Scott Wolf, Lacey Chabert and honorary member Jennifer Love Hewitt) tackled breakups, cancer, alcoholism and money woes.




39. Spin City (1996-2002)

Michael J. Fox had already proven his comedy chops with Family Ties and Back to the Future, so it was a treat to see him back on the tube in this well-written sitcom, in which his sharp deputy mayor Mike saves New York City Mayor Winston (Barry Bostwick) from making a boob of himself. Fox's Parkinson's disease forced him to leave the show in 2000, the year he nabbed his fourth Lead Actor Emmy.




38. Mad About You (1992-1999)

The Paul Reiser/Helen Hunt comedy centered on a little-explored slice of life: newly married thirtysomethings. With age may come wisdom, but Paul and Jamie Buchman learned they still had a lot to learn as they merged their lives into one New York apartment. Doses of pithy observations lent the show heft, while the Mad theme, Final Frontier, was a gem amongst the dying genre of TV theme songs.




37. Picket Fences (1992-1996)

The critical fave never won big ratings, perhaps scaring away viewers with its surreal tales of cows giving birth to humans and serial bathers. The series tackled more reality-based social issues too, but Wisconsinite sheriff Jimmy Brock (Tom Skerritt) and his doctor wife (Kathy Baker) tried to raise three children in a small town where freaky things frequently happened, especially to the town's mayors.




36. Dream On (1990-1996)

Long before The Sopranos were spewing profanities and flashing nasty bits on HBO, divorced book editor Martin Tupper (Brian Benben) was doing both on the cable network, as one of the first comedies to take advantage of the censor-free zone. Another show signature: the clips of old movies and TV shows that punctuated Martin's thoughts on fatherhood, work and ex-wife Judith (Wendie Malick).




35. The Real World (1992-present)

Who would have guessed Real World would still be on MTV, while music videos would be MIA? Still, one of the earliest reality series endures because many of us have grown up with the casts. And though the show is often charged with spawning the current glut of reality TV, it's also praised for bringing together diverse groups and tackling heavy topics like AIDS, alcoholism, religion and sexuality.




34. Ally McBeal (1997-2002)

Calista Flockhart became a star with her portrayal of idealistic, dancing-baby-loving attorney Ally, whose work was often a metaphor for what was going on in her own life. Her co-workers included her ex-boyfriend (Gil Bellows) and his new wife (Courtney Thorne-Smith), the Barry White-loving Cage (Peter MacNicol) and wattle-loving Fish (Greg Germann), though the gang's eccentricities eventually became the show's downfall as the series continued to go too over the top.




33. Will & Grace (1998-2002)

Will & Grace … or Jack & Karen? We'll vote for the latter, as co-stars Sean Hayes and Megan Mullally were forces of comic nature who stole every scene they were in. Stars Eric McCormack and Debra Messing as the titular gay guy and his platonic BFF, also shared incredible chemistry, as did second banana Shelley Morrison as Karen's feisty maid Rosario and guest stars like Matt Damon and Madonna.




32. Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? (1999-present)

The trivia show became a pop-culture phenomenon under original host Regis Philbin, whose performance while asking for contestants' "final answer" was so endearing that even his monochromatic shirt-and-tie combos became a hit. Meredith Vieira took over as host, but the show's main appeal continues to be that it looks deceptively easy at home, though, to date, only 11 players have won the ultimate prize.




31. OZ (1998-2003)

The graphic portrayal of life, death and man love in an experimental prison wasn't easy to watch, but it was always a compelling drama, with a deep bench of fascinating characters. Genius creator Tom Fontana took a few knocks for the show's brutal violence, but it was all part of the story for everyman inmate Tobias Beecher (Lee Tergesen), scheming Ryan O'Reily (Dean Winters), doomed hate monger Schillinger (J.K. Simmons) and tragic narrator Augustus Hill (Harold Perrineau).




30. Beverly Hills 90210 (1990-2000)

Even pretty rich kids with fancy wardrobes and sports cars who live in big houses have problems: Donna's (Tori Spelling) kind of a dunce, Kelly's (Jennie Garth) kind of a ho, Dylan's (Luke Perry) kind of a psycho and Steve's (Ian Ziering) totally a tool. But when Minnesota twins Brandon (Jason Priestley) and Brenda (Shannen Doherty) arrive in Aaron Spelling's 90210, the rich kids finally learn what's truly important in life: Teen pinup superstardom. And Donna Martin graduating!




29. Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987-1994)

The first and best Trek spin-off revolved around Patrick Stewart's Captain Jean-Luc Picard, who embarked on a seven-year journey on a new-school USS Enterprise (the Enterprise-D), seventy years after the era of Kirk and Spock. Among the changes for Picard's Emmy- and Peabody-winning crew: a Klingon (!) on-board the Enterprise, and a new line-up of baddies, including Borgs and the Ferengi.




28. Designing Women (1986-1993)

Often overshadowed by tabloid headlines about co-star Delta Burke's weight fluctuations, Women still earned multiple Emmy nods while unfolding the personal and professional lives of sassy Southern women Suzanne (Burke), Julia (Dixie Carter), Charlene (Jean Smart) and Mary Jo (Annie Potts), whose interior design business was the backdrop for discussions about men and Julia's frequent rants against things that insulted her liberal sensibilities.




27. The Practice (1997-2004)

Bobby Donnell (Dylan McDermott) had idealistic goals for his Boston law firm, until the cost of keeping the office afloat led him to richer, guiltier clients, like John Larroquette's murderous Joey Heric. A procession of scummier clients, and the firm's penchant for the vicious "Plan B," eventually made the intense drama tiresome, just in time to spin co-star James Spader off into Boston Legal.




26. Beavis and Butt-Head (1993-1997)

Uh … huh huh. This Mike Judge-created cartoon was about, like, teen Beavis and his friend Butt-Head, who like, sat around on their couch and made fun of videos and ate nachos and stuff. Huh huh … that was cool. They were like, dumb and dumber, which made it all that much funnier when they occasionally made a pithy observation while talking about things that suck (like Michael Bolton) or working at Burger World.




25. Dawson's Creek (1998-2003)

Before the Creek, TV teens were often grunting piles of raging hormones. But Dawson Leery (James Van der Beek) and his pals changed all that -- they added clever wordplay and cooler-than-you pop culture references to their hormone-fueled pursuit of sex, love and film festival admissions. Wannabe Spielberg Dawson did eventually get his film career, but not the girl: His female BFF Joey (Katie Holmes) ended up with his male BFF Pacey (Joshua Jackson).




24. China Beach (1988-1991)

One of the more unique dramas of the '90s presented the Vietnam War from a previously unexamined perspective: that of the women working at an evacuation hospital nicknamed China Beach. The feminine take didn't shy away from the gritty realities of the war and how they affected medical personnel, as exemplified through Dana Delany's Emmy-winning portrayal of Colleen McMurphy, a sensitive U.S. Army nurse.




23. In Living Color (1990-1994)

Damon and Keenan Wayans' variety show helped launch the careers of Oscar winner Jamie Foxx, Jim Carrey, David Alan Grier, Jennifer Lopez, Rosie Perez and Dancing With the Stars judge Carrie Ann Inaba with its groundbreaking focus on black subject matter, outrageous sketches (Fire Marshall Bill, the naughty 'Men on Film' duo and the Homeboy Shopping Network) and Fly Girl dance segments.




22. Once & Again (1999-2002)

A dramatic Brady Bunch, Once revolved around divorced hotties Lily (Sela Ward) and Rick's (Billy Campbell) attempts to blend their families into one, while also enjoying their romance. The show's strength was its richly written characters -- nobody, even Rick and Lily's exes, was all good or all bad -- including Patrick Dempsey's pre-McDreamy Aaron, Lily's schizophrenic brother, and Rick's kids: Jessie (Evan Rachel Wood), a little girl lost, and Eli (Shane West), the brooding teen.




21. My So-Called Life (1994-1995)

MSCL packed much teen angst into its one perfect season. Angela Chase (Claire Danes) was misunderstood by her 'rents, sometimes at odds with her friends and in love with quintessential bad boy Jordan Catalano (Jared Leto), and the show's heart was that it treated these universal teen woes with sometimes painful poignancy, instead of dismissing them as the whiny musings of a high schooler.




20. Twin Peaks (1990-1991)

Teen queen Laura Palmer (Sheryl Lee) had issues, like prostitution and cocaine addiction, but her murder shed light on what turned out to be even more shocking revelations (her possessed daddy!) in this surreal drama. A devoted cult fan base wasn't enough to save the show, but Agent Cooper (Kyle MacLachlan) and his love of cherry pie and "damn fine coffee" at the Double R are permanently ensconced in pop culture.




19. Sports Night (1998-2000)

Aaron Sorkin's frenetic workplace dramedy set at a cable sports network bit the dust after two seasons, but not before earning a cult following who loved the snappy dialogue, the trademark Sorkin "walk and talks" and the sometimes funny, sometimes affecting relationships between anchor Casey (Peter Krause), producer Dana (Felicity Huffman), co-anchor pal Dan (Josh Charles) and the rest of the station crew.




18. Melrose Place (1992-1999)

It would be easier to list who didn't sleep with whom during this 90210 spin-off. The bed-hopping, back-stabbing, bomb-detonating, wig-ripping fun (and that was just Marcia Cross' Kimberly!) was ratcheted up a notch or 20 when Heather Locklear's Amanda joined the show at the end of season 1, and 'MP' became such a guilty pleasure that a Seinfeld plot revolved around Jerry denying he watched the show.




17. Murphy Brown (1988-1998)

Don't ask Dan Quayle, but brassy TV newser Murphy (Candice Bergen) was one of the '90s funniest women. In a 1992 speech, former veep Quayle slammed Murphy for being a single mom, and the show struck back in a hilarious season 5 premiere. Murphy later used her irreverent outlook to battle breast cancer, a storyline that health officials credited with pushing female viewers to get mammograms.




16. South Park (1997-present)

Potty-mouthed rants and pointed pop culture jabs are just funnier when they come from the mouths of animated fourth graders Stan, Kenny, Kyle and Cartman. Michael Jackson, 'Indiana Jones' and George Clooney have all drawn the boys' ire, and critics have to admit that creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone are equal-opportunity spoofers, striking at all sides in issues like terrorism, religion and sexuality.




15. Northen Exposure (1990-1995)

It started as a summer replacement series revolving around New Yorker Dr. Joel Fleischman (Rob Morrow) and the quirky townsfolk who also populated the small Alaskan town of Cicely. Fleischman, obligated to practice in Alaska to repay a med school loan, never completely embraced his surroundings -- or love interest Maggie (Janine Turner) -- but viewers embraced the show, landing Exposure a spot in the CBS lineup for fall 1991.




14. Frasier (1993-2004)

A record-setting 37 Emmy wins; there's no arguing with that. Frasier was that rare TV hit, a smart, funny and often heartfelt comedy that was equally beloved by critics and fans. Between Cheers and its spin-off, Kelsey Grammer played pompous shrink Frasier Crane for 20 years, trading in Boston banter with Diane and Sam for Seattle squabbles with ex-cop dad Martin (John Mahoney) and fellow fussbudget bro Niles (David Hyde Pierce).




13. Freaks and Geeks (1999-2000)

Freaks, geeks, we hardly knew ye. Actually, the problem may have been that we knew them too well, as the very viewers who most identified with the dramedy were the ones who might have found those teenage memories to painful to re-bear. But the brilliance of F&G lives on, as several show alums -- producer Judd Apatow, stars Seth Rogen and James Franco -- continue to be major Hollywood players.




12. NYPD Blue (1993-2005)

It's no small feat that Blue kept fans tuning in season after season even after the deaths of favorites Jimmy Smits and Ricky Schroder and the exposing of Dennis Franz' exposed posterior. Those deaths and that nudity were among the show's controversial trademarks, as the boundary-pushing drama never shied away from the more shocking aspects, particularly for tragedy-prone Sipowicz, of cop life.




11. Law & Order (1990-present)

Like its NBC brethren ER, L&O has also been marked by frequent cast changes and a slew of celeb guest stars. But the real beauty of the New York City-set procedural, which is just a season away from tying Gunsmoke as the longest-running primetime drama, is its one-off storylines. Viewers get to see a crime investigation and prosecution, both completed, within one hour-long episode. Doink doink!




10. The Sopranos (1999-2007)

It was The Godfather on your TV every week, if the Corleone family had included Paulie Walnuts (Tony Sirico). Psycho gangster Paulie was just one of the "family" vs. family problems facing New Jersey mob boss Tony Soprano (James Gandolfini), whose anxiety from traitorous pals (R.I.P. Big *****), the FBI, his nagging wife (Edie Falco), his plotting mama (Nancy Marchand, RIP) and his many goomahs led him to seek the counsel of shrink Dr. Melfi (Lorraine Bracco).




9. The Larry Sanders Show (1992-1998)

The show-within-a-show had it all: Garry Shandling as talk show host Larry, Rip Torn and Jeremy Piven as irreverent staffers, and guest stars -- including David Duchovny, with his man crush on Larry -- who made self-spoofing cameos. The whole show, in fact, was one big insider joke on the Hollywood ego, led by vain, insecure Larry and Jeffrey Tambor as Hank, the hapless McMahon to Larry's Carson..




8. Homicide: Life on the Streets (1993-1999)

Great ensemble cast, critically acclaimed, but perpetually low-rated … it may have been because the series' focus on the grim realities of police work were too depressing. But one look at gems like season 6's 'Subway,' in which detectives have to investigate the possible murder of a man (guest Vincent D'Onofrio) whose death is imminent, will have TV fans running for the series on DVD.




7. Roseanne (1988-1997)

"Domestic goddess" Roseanne Barr didn't look like most sitcom moms, which was a key to the show's success. Roseanne was an honest portrayal of a struggling family who met challenges with healthy doses of humor, heart and sarcasm. She lived in a small town, but Roseanne was one hip mama, tackling class issues, race, domestic violence and, in one memorable kiss with Mariel Hemingway, lesbianism.




6. The X-Files (1993-2002)

Was the show, with FBI agents David Duchovny's Mulder (the believer) and Gillian Anderson's Scully (the skeptic) investigating paranormal-related cases, so popular because most of us don't believe in such goings-on, or because most of us do? The answer may be that the well-crafted, creepy drama probably flipped some viewers on both sides. Besides, we were always rooting for Mulder and Scully, those two crazy kids, to get together.




5. Friends (1994-2004)

Initially, the show was dissed by some as a Seinfeld wannabe. But Friends became one of the best comedies of the decade because of the incredible chemistry of the then unknown cast, which led to great on-screen moments with the Ross (David Schwimmer) 'n' Rachel (Jennifer Aniston) saga ('We were on a break!'), the surprisingly perfect match-up of Monica (Courteney Cox) and Chandler (Matthew Perry) and, of course, Chandler's bromance with his pal Joey (Matt LeBlanc).




4. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997-2003)

High school as hell? A brilliant metaphor that became even more humorous as teen monster-slayer Buffy (Sarah Michelle Gellar) attended a school built on top of a portal to demonic dwellings. All the universal teen angst felt by Buffy and her "Scooby Gang" friends was mirrored in the show's plots, from womanizing boys who become literal monsters to soul-crushing (again, literally) first love.




3. The Simpsons (1989-present)

Bart Simpson may be proud of being an underachiever, but the same can't be said of the Emmy-winning 'toon, which, in 20 seasons, has become a sitcom classic. Bart, his dysfunctional kin -- dad Homer, mom Marge and sisters Lisa and Maggie -- and their kooky yellow-skinned fellow Springfieldians continue to cleverly spoof American families and culture while also making sweet observations about both.




2. ER (1994-2009)

It's famous for cast departures, big-name guest stars and setting George Clooney on his Oscar-winning path, but the heart of the longest-running primetime medical drama has always been ER's intensity and the County General staff's relationships, from the heartbreaking 'Love's Labor Lost' and Dr. Greene's (Anthony Edwards) death to the harsh helicopter-crushed Dr. Romano (Paul McCrane) and the tempestuous Hathaway (Julianna Margulies)-Ross love story.




1. Seinfeld (1990-1998)

It wasn't really a show about nothing, but Seinfeld did wring hilarity from things like Junior Mints, answering machines, a rude soup chef and autoerotic tendencies. One of the show's most endearing qualities is that Jerry, George (Jason Alexander), Kramer (Michael Richards) and Elaine (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) were basically as selfish and un-endearing as they could be. Not that there's anything wrong with that, since it led to comedy gold. Gold, Jerry!

JulieSomoski
02-17-2009, 04:57 PM
When is Seinfeld #1??-LOL. It's a good show, but is it really the BEST?

That's a pretty good list, though. A few I disagree with - one show that should be on the list is NewsRadio. Never much of a ratings hit, but this was easily one of the 90s best.

Also missing from the list that should have been on - Family Matters, Boy Meets World, Drew Carey Show (the show was best in the 90s), Home Improvement (how did this not make it), and The Nanny, among many others.

Chocoholic
02-17-2009, 05:00 PM
No Wings? I like that show a lot better than about 4/5 of the shows on that list. NewsRadio should be there too.

DSfan
02-17-2009, 11:24 PM
I also don't understand how Home Improvement could have been left off. Also, if Wonder Years is considered 90s - these people are ridiculous.

ekkostar
02-18-2009, 10:21 AM
I'm so sick of the whole Seinfeld thing. Because of Seinfeld we have all these incredibly stupid non-laugh track sitcoms and dramadies now that people try to pass off as intelligent. Most of the shows on this list, bar a few animated series, sucked hard back when they were popular.

As for the whole Practice thing, I still have no idea WHY on Boston Legal they didn't go ahead and end up having Carl Sack turn around and revel himself as Joey Heric under an assumed name with a motive for attacking Shirley. That would have been the best thing to happen to that stupid show. That show had the most boring ending ever. People get married at the end? That's so 1980s TV sitcom of them, no creativity at all. I'm still incredibly disappointed in John for getting involved at all because Carl was the most weak and useless character he ever played.

Zoneboy
02-18-2009, 10:29 AM
Picket Fences at #37! :mad: That right there proves these idiots have no credibility whatsoever.

JamesG
02-18-2009, 10:59 AM
There are a few shows on this list that I had never heard of before; China Beach and Northern Exposure.

Or at least I don't remember these at all.

JT
02-18-2009, 03:46 PM
Melrose!

I approve.

Adamantium
02-18-2009, 04:03 PM
No NewsRadio? No Wings? No Ellen? NO THANKS!

I mean seriously, what are shows that are considered 2000s shows doing on this list? The Sopranos, that should be for the 2000s not the 1990s. It's taking up a space which could have gone to NewsRadio. The same goes to Will & Grace. I'm not bashing the shows in general. I'm just saying they don't belong on a 90s list. Not when other shows that actually had their whole or most of their run in the decade for which this list is about. Also on that topic Designing Women... I love to see it on a Best of list, but not for the 90s. It was an 80s show that ended in the 90s.

So while many of the shows on the list are good shows, many of them also don't belong on this list.

For the 1990s, I can understand Seinfeld getting the top spot. But in general, I don't see why this show gets treated like it's the best show EVER. But, that doesn't apply to this thread.

Adamantium
02-18-2009, 04:06 PM
That's a pretty good list, though. A few I disagree with - one show that should be on the list is NewsRadio. Never much of a ratings hit, but this was easily one of the 90s best.

Does that mean you've seen the show? I knew you were thinking about getting the DVDs in the complete series boxset. I'm just curious, lol, did you buy it?

wew3
02-18-2009, 04:51 PM
Man no wonder the only thing I watched regularly in the 90s was pro wrestling.

Here's my take.

#40 Party of Five-It grew to be very depressing and whiny.
#39 Spin City-Had its moments but wasn't really that funny.
#38 Mad About You-Good when it started but went on too long.
#37 Picket Fences-This show was awesome in the beginning, but David E. Kelly kept jumping to different shows and this show suffered for it.
#36 Dream On-Parts may have been funny, but main reason to watch was weekly hot chicks who often got naked.
#35 Real World-This show annoyed the crap out of me. Even with hot chicks this "reality" show drove me away.
#34 Ally McBeal-Like every David E. Kelly show starts out strong then fizzles out.
#33 Wil & Grace-Sorry never got into it.
#32 Who Wants to Be a Millionaire-This show ruled but ABC oversaturated it by having it on practically every night and it burned out.
#31 OZ-This show was kinda messed up, but sometimes I was in that kind of mood so I watched it.
#30 Beverly Hills 90210-I liked the first season but progressively hated every season thereafter.
#29 Star Trek NG-I was a casual fan was a great written show for all the ones I saw.
#28 Designing Women-Blah. Dixie Carter's self-righteous character annoyed me.
#27 The Practice-See what I wrote for every other David E. Kelly show.
#26 Beavis and Butt-Head just a phenomenon of the time. The humor was great but could do without some of the gory and gross stuff.
#25 Dawson's Creek-Went on too long and Joey and Dawson didn't end up together.
#24 China Beach-Very well-written, but very depressing. It was about the Vietnam War.
#23 In Living Color-Great when it started, burnt out by the end.
#22 Once and Again-Never watched it.
#21 My So Called Life-Same
#20 Twin Peaks-Too wacked out to stay with for the ride.
#19 Sports Night-Well written but never felt like a sitcom.
#18 Melrose Place-See 90210 comments.
#17 Murphy Brown-Boring.
#16 South Park-Still pretty funny after all this time.
#15 Northern Exposure-Sorry I was watching pro wrestling on Monday nights.
#14 Fraiser-Boring, humor was too high brow for my taste.
#13 Freeks and Geeks-Sorry to say never watched it, but always heard good things about it.
#12 NYPD Blue-This show was always good.
#11 Law and Order-Snore. I hate procedural dramas.
#10 The Sopranos-Never got into it.
#9 Larry Sander Shows-Same
#8 Homocide Life on the Streets-See Law and Order comments.
#7 Roseanne-Great for several years than went down hill in later years.
#6 X Files-I like Sci-fi, but I never got into it.
#5 Friends-Deserved to be here, but also seemed to go on too long.
#4 Buffy TVS-Just loved this show from beginning to end.
#3 The Simpons-Liked this show in the beginning, can't believe it's still on.
#2 ER-Well written show, but only a casual fan.
#1 Seinfeld-While I'll agree this belongs on the list I always thought it was overrated.

megamanj2004
02-18-2009, 04:55 PM
Seinfield #1?

Well, I can't complain too much on that one, since another TV Junkie site called Retrocrush didn't include Seinfield in their Top 10 Greatest TV Theme Songs of All-Time.

It's one of the best of the '90s but not quite the best of all '90s shows, though.

TV-aholic
02-18-2009, 06:40 PM
When isn't Seinfeld #1??-LOL. It's a good show, but is it really the BEST?

That's a pretty good list, though. A few I disagree with - one show that should be on the list is NewsRadio. Never much of a ratings hit, but this was easily one of the 90s best.

Also missing from the list that should have been on - Family Matters, Boy Meets World, Drew Carey Show (the show was best in the 90s), Home Improvement (how did this not make it), and The Nanny, among many others.
Yes, Seinfeld is the best and it proves it every week.

Despite being off for 11 years, it is still a top 10 syndicated show. Outlasting all other shows it aired with, before and after. Only the new shows in syndication, like Two and a Half Men, do better, for the shoert term.

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JulieSomoski
02-18-2009, 06:48 PM
Does that mean you've seen the show? I knew you were thinking about getting the DVDs in the complete series boxset. I'm just curious, lol, did you buy it?

Yes, I bought it, and I can now say honestly, it's become one of my favorite shows! This is exactly what every ensemble show should be like. Normally, I like a smaller cast, but it just works in NewsRadio, because every character gets equal parts in every episode, which makes it so great, let alone one of the funniest shows I've ever seen.

Probably my best blind buy yet! I also love the commentary tracks - I've never enjoyed commentary so much in my life! With all this said, yeah, NewsRadio deserves to be at least top 20 in this list.

And I agree with you - Ellen also deserves a spot. This was one funny show, especially early on. Shows like these I can't believe didn't make it.

JulieSomoski
02-18-2009, 06:50 PM
Yes, Seinfeld is the best and it proves it every week.

Despite being off for 11 years, it is still a top 10 syndicated show. Outlasting all other shows it aired with, before and after. Only the new shows in syndication, like Two and a Half Men, do better, for the shoert term.

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I'm not talking ratings-wise. While it is a good show that I've come to enjoy, it simply isn't the best show out there, not like some people make it out to be. I hate how it always claims the #1 spot on seemingly every TV list out there, because there were many other shows that were better.

TV-aholic
02-18-2009, 06:53 PM
And I agree with you - Ellen also deserves a spot. This was one funny show, especially early on. Shows like these I can't believe didn't make it.
Ellen is one of the most over rated shows, IMO.

It quit being funny once they stopped calling the show "These Friends of Mine"


But I do Agree that News Radio is a awsome, under rated comedy. A&E use to air reruns of it, a few years back.

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JulieSomoski
02-18-2009, 08:10 PM
Ellen is one of the most over rated shows, IMO.

It quit being funny once they stopped calling the show "These Friends of Mine"


But I do Agree that News Radio is a awsome, under rated comedy. A&E use to air reruns of it, a few years back.

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Season 1 of Ellen (These Friends of Mine) is by far the best season - the supporting cast was much better, IMO, and the quality of the show just seemed a huge step up from seasons 2-5. Season 2 was still good, but once Ellen came out, I think the show just stopped being funny.

NewsRadio is probably one of the most underrated shows of the 90s. It's funny as hell, yet NBC shoved it around a lot during its time on the air, which lead to a continued decrease in ratings.

Adamantium
02-18-2009, 08:19 PM
I have the different opinion of "Ellen." I liked the first season, but to me it was the weakest season. It improved in season two, reached it's peak in season three, remained good in season four and then fell apart in season five. Although I don't have a problem with Ellen being gay, the show was much better when she didn't date at all (men or women). And that's seasons 3 and 4. Plus, even though I liked Adam (Arye Gross), I liked Spence (Jeremy Piven) better. I also liked Paige (Joely Fisher) more than Holly (Holly Fulger) and Audrey (Clea Lewis) as a regular. I also loved Joe (Dave Higgins), and he has more to do post-season 1. But to each his/her own.

Mr. Television
02-18-2009, 08:27 PM
Seinfeld, ER, Buffy, Roseanne, L&O, NYPD Blue, Melrose, The Practice, 90210 ( the HS Years) Picket Fences and Spin City are the only ones on that list I can say I really enjoy. Where's 3rd Rock from the Sun? That and Newsradio should have been on NBC's must see Thursday and maybe NBC wouldn't have the problems that they have today...putting bad shows on it's most popular night.

Adamantium
02-18-2009, 08:31 PM
Ellen is one of the most over rated shows, IMO.

I think "Ellen" is made out to be something it isn't because of the groundbreaking nature of it's last season. Before she came out, the show was just a fun little show and that's why I liked it. It's almost like a 90s version of Laverne & Shirley or Three's Company. It didn't try to change the world or even make you think. It was just there to entertain you and make you laugh. However, when Ellen came out of the closet, that all changed. All of a sudden, the show *was* trying to change the world and be something it wasn't. And it was canceled as a result of that.

I think the show is very funny. Unfortunately, the overrated aspect comes from the last season. Because Ellen came out of the closet, all of a sudden the show is well known. It should have been well known for being a funny show before that.

TV-aholic
02-19-2009, 12:47 AM
I think "Ellen" is made out to be something it isn't because of the groundbreaking nature of it's last season. Before she came out, the show was just a fun little show and that's why I liked it. It's almost like a 90s version of Laverne & Shirley or Three's Company. It didn't try to change the world or even make you think. It was just there to entertain you and make you laugh. However, when Ellen came out of the closet, that all changed. All of a sudden, the show *was* trying to change the world and be something it wasn't. And it was canceled as a result of that.

I think the show is very funny. Unfortunately, the overrated aspect comes from the last season. Because Ellen came out of the closet, all of a sudden the show is well known. It should have been well known for being a funny show before that.
I was never an Ellen D. fan.
From her stand up days and debut on Carson, to Open House to her sitcome and now her talk show.
So, I am biased against her since I have NEVR found her funny.

But as you said, to each their own. :)

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JulieSomoski
02-19-2009, 04:16 PM
I think "Ellen" is made out to be something it isn't because of the groundbreaking nature of it's last season. Before she came out, the show was just a fun little show and that's why I liked it. It's almost like a 90s version of Laverne & Shirley or Three's Company. It didn't try to change the world or even make you think. It was just there to entertain you and make you laugh. However, when Ellen came out of the closet, that all changed. All of a sudden, the show *was* trying to change the world and be something it wasn't. And it was canceled as a result of that.

I think the show is very funny. Unfortunately, the overrated aspect comes from the last season. Because Ellen came out of the closet, all of a sudden the show is well known. It should have been well known for being a funny show before that.

I agree - it was always just a very funny show, one to entertain. The 5th season was probably a mistake to begin with. I just didn't find the gay aspect to be funny at all. I never understood why this show never gets any recognition anymore.

like2throw
02-21-2009, 03:53 AM
I'm not talking ratings-wise. While it is a good show that I've come to enjoy, it simply isn't the best show out there, not like some people make it out to be. I hate how it always claims the #1 spot on seemingly every TV list out there, because there were many other shows that were better.

Its not based on what you like, its based on influence and impact. Along with I love Lucy, Seinfeld is the most influential sitcom of all time. It was the number 1 rated television show when it went of the air, and its just remembered more than most other sitcoms.That is why its number 1. I dont watch the show that much anymore but I mean....even if there are other BETTER shows (maybe theyre are, but thats subjective) Seinfeld still is the most influential of that era. That is something that just cannot be argued.

JulieSomoski
02-21-2009, 02:42 PM
Its not based on what you like, its based on influence and impact. Along with I love Lucy, Seinfeld is the most influential sitcom of all time. It was the number 1 rated television show when it went of the air, and its just remembered more than most other sitcoms.That is why its number 1. I dont watch the show that much anymore but I mean....even if there are other BETTER shows (maybe theyre are, but thats subjective) Seinfeld still is the most influential of that era. That is something that just cannot be argued.

It is based on what I like and think, and what other people think. I just don't see what was so "influential" about it. While it was #1 when it went off the air, and while it was one of the most successful sitcoms ever, I just don't understand why it's so good as to take every #1 slot on almost every TV list out there.

Adamantium
02-21-2009, 03:48 PM
I understand Seinfeld making #1 in a 90s list. I've never been a big fan, more of a casual one. I laugh at the show when I see it, but if I never see it again, that's fine with me.

I'm more upset about shows that are not rightly 90s shows being put on the list. But rather because they're popular shows that just have to be on a best of list. Shows like The Sopranos, Will & Grace and Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.

Ratings wise and popularity wise, I'd say Seinfeld does deserve to be first. But what's with those shows I just mentioned being on a 90s list?

And while I'm typing, why just 40? Isn't it usually 100, 50, or 25, lol?

JulieSomoski
02-22-2009, 03:03 PM
I understand Seinfeld making #1 in a 90s list. I've never been a big fan, more of a casual one. I laugh at the show when I see it, but if I never see it again, that's fine with me.

I'm more upset about shows that are not rightly 90s shows being put on the list. But rather because they're popular shows that just have to be on a best of list. Shows like The Sopranos, Will & Grace and Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.

Ratings wise and popularity wise, I'd say Seinfeld does deserve to be first. But what's with those shows I just mentioned being on a 90s list?

And while I'm typing, why just 40? Isn't it usually 100, 50, or 25, lol?

LOL - I guess all they had in them was 40. But yeah, it does make me mad that shows like Sopranos and Will and Grace make a 90s list, since they are really not 90s shows. WWTBAM I can partly see, because I guess it was most popular in 1999, but still, it doesn't deserve a spot over shows like Home Improvement and NewsRadio that were left off the list.

Adamantium
02-23-2009, 10:12 PM
I'm gonna make this a top 50 list adding:
(In no certain order)
41. NewsRadio
42. Wings
43. Ellen
44. Home Improvement
45. Quantum Leap
46. Sliders
47. The Wonder Years
48. Coach
49. Life Goes On
50. 3rd Rock from the Sun

dawsongirl
02-23-2009, 11:51 PM
God...Seinfeld wasn't THAT good. It was odd. I mean, ok, the format was unique at the time, but the characters were obnoxious. Not really #1 to me. On the list, sure, but #1??

benjamoon
02-24-2009, 12:03 AM
Buffy is above Friends???!!!!

i know not everyone likes Friends and while I would personally put it above Seinfeld, I can understand why it's not but it should definitely be above Buffy

Also, Designing Women should definitely be in a 1980s list because it was becoming kinda lame by the 1990s

Also, as mentioned - Wings, Newsradio, and Home Improvement should be on that list

Also, Mad About You was WAY too low

JamesG
02-24-2009, 07:41 AM
I have to ask...

Though I am a fan of it was Beavis and Butt-Head really one of the best things of all time to come out of the 1990s?

JamesG
02-24-2009, 01:23 PM
In my personal tastes, I'm surprised Hercules and/or Xena didn't make the list.

Classicshowsgurl15
02-24-2009, 03:28 PM
Spin City is on the list! Yay. :D