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Dr. Thong
12-21-2008, 12:09 PM
This show was a bad idea. Not because they brought in Demond Wilson and Ron Glass to take on the roles of Oscar and Felix -- after all, before Klugman and Randall there had been Matthau and Lemmon in the original movie. But for two main reasons...

1. The original show had only been off the networks for a few years and could be widely seen in syndication.

And the big reason...

2. They were literally re-filming old scripts from the original show. They had no choice, because of a writers' strike that wouldn't allow new scripts to be commissioned. They should have put this show on hold until the strike was over so that new scripts and fresh takes on the characters could be explored.

catlover79
12-21-2008, 12:38 PM
I've never seen this show, but Ron Glass and Demond Wilson were/are both gifted actors who could carry a show together. Having said that, remaking an old show (especially such a beloved one) is almost always a bad idea.

Dr. Thong
12-21-2008, 12:50 PM
Had they waited a few more years and had some original scripts and concepts for the characters, it might have been okay.

But I agree, generally speaking, old shows should not be remade.

Leave the classics alone.

The producers of The Honeymooners movie from a few years back will always be on my "enemies list.":D That show is sacred.

catlover79
12-21-2008, 01:00 PM
It would be interesting sometime to see this show, but you're right...leave the classics alone.

Theda Bara
12-21-2008, 03:02 PM
The only good thing about, The New Odd Couple, was that Ron Glass made an excellent Felix. Glass did an amazing job.

TripperFan
12-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Leave the classics alone.

The producers of The Honeymooners movie from a few years back will always be on my "enemies list.":D That show is sacred.


Wasn't that the WORST ever? Talk about a WTF Moment in Movies!

I fully agree. I notice remakes more and more now and it's like the writers can't seem to think of anything new to come up with. Sad really.

catlover79
12-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Wasn't that the WORST ever? Talk about a WTF Moment in Movies!

I fully agree. I notice remakes more and more now and it's like the writers can't seem to think of anything new to come up with. Sad really.
Guessing by the box office performance, almost everybody felt the same way we do!! :lol:

TripperFan
12-21-2008, 04:26 PM
Guessing by the box office performance, almost everybody felt the same way we do!! :lol:


Even the trailers for that thing were brutal!! :lol:

The only "remake" of the Honeymooners that was any good was when Warner Brother's did it with the mice on the Bugs Bunny/Roadrunner Hour!

howilu
12-22-2008, 06:34 PM
Even the theme from the original was used in a more uptempo arrangement. Admit it. The New Odd Couple wasn't a very good show. It would have been better if there weren't a lot of remakes of original episodes.

Dr. Thong
12-22-2008, 07:19 PM
Even the trailers for that thing were brutal!! :lol:

The only "remake" of the Honeymooners that was any good was when Warner Brother's did it with the mice on the Bugs Bunny/Roadrunner Hour!

That was a classic cartoon. I would categorize that more a spoof, or a homage, really.

But if you want to look at a cartoon that was essentially an animated version of The Honeymooners, look no further than The Flinstones. But at least that had some wit and some good writing.

catlover79
12-22-2008, 07:22 PM
That was a classic cartoon. I would categorize that more a spoof, or a homage, really.

But if you want to look at a cartoon that was essentially an animated version of The Honeymooners, look no further than The Flinstones. But at least that had some wit and some good writing.
I was going to mention The Flintstones. I call it "The Honeymooners with Kids". :lol:

Dr. Thong
12-22-2008, 07:31 PM
I was going to mention The Flintstones. I call it "The Honeymooners with Kids". :lol:

I remember watching The Honeymooners for the first time when I was eight or nine and I immediately realized that The Flinstones was a copy. I still enjoyed both, though.

TripperFan
12-22-2008, 07:42 PM
That's very true about the Flintstones, and yes, the WB mice were definitely a spoof - at least both had better writing than any of the "remakes".

Although honestly, I never really liked the "original" Odd Couple series because I had seen the movie. I LOVED Jack Lemmon. Always did as an actor, but also loved him in the movie. I never liked Tony Randall. To me, it was like he was playing the character more "gay" than just a whipped ex like Jack did. And of course, the remakes went down from there for me.

Zoneboy
12-22-2008, 07:49 PM
The producers of The Honeymooners movie from a few years back will always be on my "enemies list.":D That show is sacred.

Speaking of The Honeymooners, I'd love to see Art Carney's original portrayl of Felix Unger but I have no idea if it even exists or not.

catlover79
12-22-2008, 09:54 PM
Wasn't there also a cartoon version of The Odd Couple with a tidy cat and a sloppy dog?

Zoneboy
12-22-2008, 10:01 PM
Wasn't there also a cartoon version of The Odd Couple with a tidy cat and a sloppy dog?

Yes, It was called The Oddball Couple.

catlover79
12-22-2008, 10:03 PM
Yes, It was called The Oddball Couple.
Thank you, Charles - when did air?

Zoneboy
12-22-2008, 10:07 PM
Thank you, Charles - when did air?

1975 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORGR3zLiWk

catlover79
12-22-2008, 10:17 PM
1975 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORGR3zLiWk
Thank you, Charles. ;)

Smartboy
12-23-2008, 07:56 AM
Speaking of The Honeymooners, I'd love to see Art Carney's original portrayl of Felix Unger but I have no idea if it even exists or not.


I had no idea that Art Carney ever portrayed Felix Unger! Was this a movie or a sereis or what?

Zoneboy
12-23-2008, 08:55 AM
I had no idea that Art Carney ever portrayed Felix Unger! Was this a movie or a sereis or what?

Art Carney originated the role on Broadway opposite Walter Matthau's Oscar Madison.

treky
12-24-2008, 04:34 AM
like someone else said, the only good thing about "THE NEW ODD COUPLE" was Ron Glass as Felix.

And, I remember they did make at least one original episode of it.

treky
12-24-2008, 04:44 AM
Art Carney originated the role on Broadway opposite Walter Matthau's Oscar Madison.
and Jack Klugman was Matthaus understudy.

treky
12-24-2008, 04:54 AM
Yes, It was called The Oddball Couple.
I remember back then, they had animated, saturday morning, cartoon series or animated series of various prime-time shows. In some cases, they were just based on a series, though. They had ones that were either based on, or versions of "THE ADDAMS FAMILY", "GILLIGANS ISLAND", "THE PARTRIGE FAMILY", "STAR TREK", "I DREAM OF JEANNIE", "THE BRADY BUNCH" (it was just about the kids, though), "THE ODD COUPLE", "MASH", & "HAPPY DAYS" to name some.
And ABC made an animated "THAT GIRL" movie once. (and yes, Marlo Thomas did the voice)

TMC
09-02-2025, 03:35 PM
Had they waited a few more years and had some original scripts and concepts for the characters, it might have been okay.

But I agree, generally speaking, old shows should not be remade.

Leave the classics alone.

The producers of The Honeymooners movie from a few years back will always be on my "enemies list.":D That show is sacred.

Here a portion of an article (https://www.closerweekly.com/posts/garry-marshall-the-odd-couple-157336/) that talks about it:

The New Odd Couple starred Demond Wilson of Sanford and Son as Oscar and Ron Glass of Barney Miller as Felix, and while the show had great potential, it was irreparably harmed by the insistence to have many of the episodes use scripts from the original series, despite the fact they were so well known. The show was gone in 18 episodes.

Sighed Garry, who contractually had his name on the show, during our conversation, “It was somebody’s bright idea that this would be an easy show to do. They still had all of the old scripts and they wanted to redo them, and then thought to cast the show black. It didn’t really work. I mean, why rewrite the scripts? That wasn’t the right way to do it. They should have wrote a completely new version and not relied on the old scripts. The actors were fine and gave it their best shot, and although my name was on it, I couldn’t work on the show, because I didn’t agree with what was going on. It was just another case of greed that didn’t work.”