Here I am again with another one of my weird thread topics, but the "People On UM You Just Didn't Like" thread gave me the idea. Just as there's been people I've not liked on UM, there have been some that, for some reason, I've also kinda liked.

Here's a few:

Jeff Oberholtzer. He seemed like the most chill, mild-mannered man in the world. I never thought he "did it" and I was impressed with the way he never got belligerent or bitter even though everyone suspected him of committing the Orange Sock murders. I only wish his wife's killer could be found.

Dorothy Sova. Under her "mom" facade I think she's really a very streetwise woman with a very strong spirit.

Curtis Henry. He reminds me so much of my stepdad.



What about you guys?

Doyle Wheeler. An honest, straightforward, and likeable guy. Some people here think his story is bunk but I disagree. I believe him.

Norman Ladner's parents. Especially the mother as she was very strong and determined to get to the truth of what happened to her son. She was one who wouldn't be intimidated.

I always liked Colleen Ritter. I couldn't get over how strong she came across in the segment. Her ex-boyfriend stabs her parents to death, stabs her little brother and tries to kill her and she kept her composure and didn't even get emotional while while being interviewed. At the end of the segment, she even admitted that she's always thought of herself as emotionally strong and that even while Rick Church was on the run, she refused to let him ruin her life anymore than he already has. She couldn't have been any older than 18, 19 years old at the time. It was pretty amazing.

Debbie Baskin - everyone knows how I feel about this case. Debbie and Mark just seemed like your typical loving parents. When she started crying over how her youngest son will go to bed at night and say, "Please don't let grandma and grandpa steal me too," I just wanted to jump into the TV screen and hug her. Such a heartbreaking and bizarre case.

Jeff Oberholtzer. He seemed like the most chill, mild-mannered man in the world. I never thought he "did it" and I was impressed with the way he never got belligerent or bitter even though everyone suspected him of committing the Orange Sock murders. I only wish his wife's killer could be found.

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I said the same thing 2.5 years ago and still agree.

I'd also like to add Dr. William Roll to the list. That guy is a genius!

Patti, the deaf girl looking for her father.

Jeannie Wagner, looking for her dad, Duncan.

Crystal Spencer's boyfriend, Anton. Crystal must've meant a lot to him because he seemed really desparate to find out what really happened to her. Her death really raises a lot of questions, for instance wrong height and weight on her death certificate? :confused:

Bill Day--the Maryland Firefighter who's ex wife kidnapped their son Kristophe and didn't even bother to tell him that their son had died from Leukemia.

Christine Reinhart--the woman whos husband Craig disappeared and ended up having amnesia.

The Baskins-- I felt so bad for them when Debbie's parents kidnapped two of their children.

That's it for me.. for now!!

Alfie

Yeah, Jeff Oberholtzer, I do not know what it was about the guy but I NEVER for an instant believed he did it. There was just something about him that told me the guy did not do it. Call it a gut feeling or whatever. Not that my gut is always right of course but I would say more often than not I judge people accurately based on the vibe I get. I just didnt get a killer vibe off of Oberholtzer.

Bill Day: For his patience and verve in the pursuit of his son.

Rose Hoffman: for her bravery

Maurice Rosenblum (RIP): for his hard work in trying to find his son Michael

Anton Kline - Crystal Spencer's boyfriend, he seemed like a real honest type of guy and supported Crystal in her line of work.

Lori Tillman. Hot.

Anton Kline - Crystal Spencer's boyfriend, he seemed like a real honest type of guy and supported Crystal in her line of work.

I always liked him, too. Yeah, he was older and liked the finer things in life. However, he seemed to love her for herself and understood that her stripping was to pay the bills, not a career choice. One can only imagine what kind of future those two could have had if someone hadn't ended Crystal's life.

well, the guy in my avatar of course. :lol:

CW Roddy: to put it simply, she's a hero.

the blind judge's original caretaker (not the one who robbed him): She seemed really devoted to the judge and her job, even to the point of staying on long enough until someone else came along, and although the new caretaker (Andelina Gonzales?, was that her name) was a fraud in the worst way, I don't think she had any way of knowing. Plus, when she suspected something fishy was going on, she investigated it even though it wasn't her job anymore. Now this was a woman that was dedicated. She seemed very genuine.

I'm not sure why, but I always thought that Annette Burnside's co-worker (the guy who was shot and interviewed in silhouette) was compelling. He had a voice that was reminiscent of a detective voice over in an old film noir.The comment about Burnside looking like he was going to enjoy a steak made me smile too.

[QUOTE=wiseguy182]well, the guy in my avatar of course. :lol:

Wiseguy, you could always pull a Ferris Bueller....

Bob Bean...you're my hero! :lol:

I'm not sure why, but I always thought that Annette Burnside's co-worker (the guy who was shot and interviewed in silhouette) was compelling. He had a voice that was reminiscent of a detective voice over in an old film noir.The comment about Burnside looking like he was going to enjoy a steak made me smile too.

I agree; I enjoyed listening to him.

Larry Dickens' mother. I was so happy when they finally caught that monster EHB, and I think I actually cheered when I saw it the first time and heard her say, "And I hope they throw the book at him!"

Definitely Gord McAllister, who survived the Blind River Murders. His soft voice and calm, almost resignated posture is underwhelming considering what he had gone through. A nice fellow. :)

Shane Stewart's dad would be one of my picks. He seemed like such a nice, mild mannered guy.

Sheila Kimmell of course. :)

My nominees are: Ida Prewitt... nah, just kidding.. :D

Victor Simon. How can you not love this guy? Gus Hoffman's mom also seemed nice.

the little old nun lady with the round head that was interviewed for the spiral staircase segment. She reminds of someone who would be a friend of my late grandmother.

Bob Bean was an extremely likable guy that I think would be a hoot to be around.

Gayle DeLano's mother and sister. Can't really explain why, just do.

Jane Boroski, who is probably one of the bravest people ever interviewed on UM. Thank God she and her daughter (who's probably about 20 years old now) survived that gruesome attack.

I would also say Gus Hoffman's mom and Amy Billig's mom since they put themselves in danger in order to find out what happened to their children.

Wouldn't it be fun if Bob Bean and Danny Wheeler ran against each other for a congressional seat? I could just imagine some of those ads. :lol:

Wouldn't it be fun if Bob Bean and Danny Wheeler ran against each other for a congressional seat? I could just imagine some of those ads. :lol:

"Bob Bean the most qualified man for the job? Yeah, and I'm Michael Jordan. I'm Danny Wheeler, and I approve this message."

I also liked Gord MacCallister and felt sorry for what happened to him...and the composite drawing of the killer always creeped me out. William Roll is another prominant person on this show and besides his kick ass accent, he actually seemed like he cared for the people in the segments he was helping investigate.

"Bob Bean the most qualified man for the job? Yeah, and I'm Michael Jordan. I'm Danny Wheeler, and I approve this message."

Like Danny Wheeler, I am also not MJ. The only similarity is that we both were born in the same area of NY, less than a mile apart, he was born in Cumberland County Hospital, same as my younger sister. I think his parents went to North Carolina shortly later, as the area of Fort Greene was not exactly the best place to raise a family at that time. I was born at Cobble Hill about a half mile to the west, near the BK-Manhattan border. Okay that was OT, but since others kept mentioning it, I had to join in. :p

As far as the UM people, I liked Sam Zelikson and Ladonna Alfonso. They both turned a negative to a positive. Zelikson was the one who won the lotto after his deceased son allegedly gave him the winning numbers, and he gave a good portion of the proceeds to charity. Alfonso was the woman who lost her mom and sisters after a serious car collision with a train. She also went through numerous surgeries and eventually reunited with some lost loves.

Dr. John Philpin, psychologist in the NH Serial Killer segment. Very observant, intelligent man; I think he would be infinitely interesting to talk to.

Victor Simon:
he really stood out in my mind. (Just FYI, he died in 1995/6) No bitterness, no anger, I felt nothing but honesty in his tones. And his quote, something to the effect "I didn't mind the work I just would've like to have been fed afterwards is all". True, honest grit. I am truly sorry he never found any of his family.

Susan Billig.

Nicki and Charita, the little Afro-American girls who met in the hospital, swore to be sisters forever, and Charita couldn't have kids, so when Nicki had kids they would be Charita's too. I was so happy that they found each other. When they showed Charita standing godmother for Nicki's daughter my eyes ran over.

Gordon Page. He's a fellow autistic and someone I would like to know. His dad, too. I'm sorry I called his dad an "idiot" in a prior post for leaving him in that group home. Not as much was known about autism and neuroleptics then and people tend to believe what authorities tell them.

The soldier who lost his leg in Vietnam and found the nurse that helped him. What a just plain nice guy, and her too.

I always thought Rhonda Hinson's mom seemed like a nice lady.

OK, here goes...

Susan Gilmore and her husband Duncan in the 'Jeannie Wagner' segment.

Jeannie was looking for the man she believed to be her father, her mother Patsy's ex-boyfriend/lover named 'Duncan.' Susan Gilmore talks of watching the original segment, and heard that Patsy's had described Duncan in her diary as "the sweetest, kindest person I've ever met." When Susan says "That's my Duncan. I knew that was my Duncan."

I can't NOT get emotional when I watch that. How many of you would like to be thought of the 'sweetest, kindest person' someone had ever met? And that this person had had that effect on more than one person?

When the segment goes on to the interview with Duncan, and his awakening and questioning by his wife (who has just watched the original segment), it is also sweet and touching - and hilarious. Not only did this bring about what seemed to be a wonderful reunion, but that Susan Gilmore seemed to fully embrace and accept that her husband had had relationships before their marriage, had a child, and wanted to share that with him. These 'lost loves' stories can be a a tad 'icky' at times, but this one was - at least from my perspective - extremely heartwarming and funny, and the love that exuded from these people was just overwhelming.

Well, that's my first post. I just wanted to share what I think is one of the most memorable UM segment and loving people I've seen featured.

I also liked Gord MacCallister and felt sorry for what happened to him...and the composite drawing of the killer always creeped me out. William Roll is another prominant person on this show and besides his kick ass accent, he actually seemed like he cared for the people in the segments he was helping investigate.

I thought he seemed nice too. He looked like he was in pain. When he mentioned how he and his wife had been married for "39 years" it hit me. The guy was probably just retired and looking forward to a lot of years of travelling with her since they had the motorhome.

Pat Conway seemed like a nice man too. Just a senseless death with no concrete answers. Seemed very mild mannered.

I'll admit a crush I always had was Bonnie Craig's mother. Seemed like a very nice lady too, quiet and soft spoken. But beautiful, I thought.

Pam Ellender's father seemed like a nice man of high standards I always thought. Clean cut, dressed up nice for the segment, a man who wanted answers and seemed like he would stick up for his daughter forever.

Larry Costine's uncle. Had that nice southern charm to him. Wore a cowboy hat in the UM segment.

well, the guy in my avatar of course. :lol:

CW Roddy: to put it simply, she's a hero.

the blind judge's original caretaker (not the one who robbed him): She seemed really devoted to the judge and her job, even to the point of staying on long enough until someone else came along, and although the new caretaker (Andelina Gonzales?, was that her name) was a fraud in the worst way, I don't think she had any way of knowing. Plus, when she suspected something fishy was going on, she investigated it even though it wasn't her job anymore. Now this was a woman that was dedicated. She seemed very genuine.

I totally agree!!! I remember thinking that she seemed like the most dedicated, generous person who went above and beyond. Those qualities are rare these days. She was def. cool.:)

OK, here goes...

Susan Gilmore and her husband Duncan in the 'Jeannie Wagner' segment.

Jeannie was looking for the man she believed to be her father, her mother Patsy's ex-boyfriend/lover named 'Duncan.' Susan Gilmore talks of watching the original segment, and heard that Patsy's had described Duncan in her diary as "the sweetest, kindest person I've ever met." When Susan says "That's my Duncan. I knew that was my Duncan."

I can't NOT get emotional when I watch that. How many of you would like to be thought of the 'sweetest, kindest person' someone had ever met? And that this person had had that effect on more than one person?

When the segment goes on to the interview with Duncan, and his awakening and questioning by his wife (who has just watched the original segment), it is also sweet and touching - and hilarious. Not only did this bring about what seemed to be a wonderful reunion, but that Susan Gilmore seemed to fully embrace and accept that her husband had had relationships before their marriage, had a child, and wanted to share that with him. These 'lost loves' stories can be a a tad 'icky' at times, but this one was - at least from my perspective - extremely heartwarming and funny, and the love that exuded from these people was just overwhelming.

Well, that's my first post. I just wanted to share what I think is one of the most memorable UM segment and loving people I've seen featured.

Welcome to the forum!!! :) I just wanted to say I loved what you wrote.

I too really enjoyed that lost love episode. It made me want to be a part of that family for some reason. Susan and Duncan seem like wonderful people, who have the perfect marriage, and it really was emotional to see how much love came from every person featured on that segment!!!

There are several lost love segments that really pull at my heartstrings I have to say, and I'm usually in tears by the time the reunions take place :)

Keep posting!!

Interestingly, under people you liked....

Mark Nichols.

As I'd mentioned before, would love to meet the country yokel and shoot some pool with him, get him a few beers and maybe ask him a few questions about the case.

Joyce McLain's mother seemed very nice and strong to boot.

Colleen Ritter seemed very likable. It's amazing to think what she had to endure at such a young age.

Michael Rosenblum's parents.

I agree with people who liked Gord Mcalister. Of course it was even more heartbreaking to think he was this seemingly very nice old man still in love with his wife and had to witness her murder. :( It was impossible to not sympathize with him.

I also agree with Duncan Gilmore and his wife. Some of these segments I kinda forget about, ones like this which were solved pretty close to their original airing (I still have the condensed version of that one with the Update tacked on, on tape from 1993). You also get the feeling he was a sweet grandpa type, and the wife was great for being so easygoing. I realized how unusual that would typically be if he told her he not only slept with someone else, but had a (then) grown kid and grandkids. They made it seem like it was a lighthearted convo. ;)

Some more:

-Rob Schaffer
-Dwayne Miller (OK City bombing survivor)
-"Laurie", the young woman who survived a rape and possible murder from two men that kidnapped her from a bar
-Lisa Kimmel's mom Sheila
-Steve Sandlin as well as the woman who rescued him (motorcycle crash in Florida in the mid 90s)
-Gus Hoffman's mom (even for someone in that situation, her determination was unbelievable)
-Jim Brakowski as well as Linda Sharp (the Vietnam nurse who came to his aid and raised his spirits)
-Christine Reinhardt
-Jenny Pratt as well as her dad (I sympathize with her mom, but she personally came across as dislikable and negative - her dad seemed optemistic on the other hand)
-Colleen Ritter
-Barney Dewey (the man who was searching for his half sister separated in 1941, solved soon later - his narrative storytelling was great)

I agree with people who liked Gord Mcalister. Of course it was even more heartbreaking to think he was this seemingly very nice old man still in love with his wife and had to witness her murder. :( It was impossible to not sympathize with him.

I also agree with Duncan Gilmore and his wife. Some of these segments I kinda forget about, ones like this which were solved pretty close to their original airing (I still have the condensed version of that one with the Update tacked on, on tape from 1993). You also get the feeling he was a sweet grandpa type, and the wife was great for being so easygoing. I realized how unusual that would typically be if he told her he not only slept with someone else, but had a (then) grown kid and grandkids. They made it seem like it was a lighthearted convo. ;)

Some more:

-Rob Schaffer
-Dwayne Miller (OK City bombing survivor)
-"Laurie", the young woman who survived a rape and possible murder from two men that kidnapped her from a bar
-Lisa Kimmel's mom Sheila
-Steve Sandlin as well as the woman who rescued him (motorcycle crash in Florida in the mid 90s)
-Gus Hoffman's mom (even for someone in that situation, her determination was unbelievable)
-Jim Brakowski as well as Linda Sharp (the Vietnam nurse who came to his aid and raised his spirits)
-Christine Reinhardt
-Jenny Pratt as well as her dad (I sympathize with her mom, but she personally came across as dislikable and negative - her dad seemed optemistic on the other hand)
-Colleen Ritter
-Barney Dewey (the man who was searching for his half sister separated in 1941, solved soon later - his narrative storytelling was great)

I was thinking Steve Sandlin was the rookie New Mexico cop who was found dead, and they couldn't determine if it was suicide, accident or murder. I think you may be thinking about Phillip Macri possibly?

Yes I agree about Christine Reinhardt and Gus Hoffman's mom. Also Amy Billig's mom. They all went to extraordinary lengths to figure out what happened to their loved ones.

I was the first one on this forum to voice my disliking for Jenny Pratt's mom, and am glad to see so many people on here share a similar opinion.

I always liked the investigator from the Nebraska State Patrol in the Anna Anton/Greg Webb case.

Rogest Cain's family

Joyce McClain's mom

Det. Bob Carrig. He was the detective investigating the 1988 murder of Veronica 'Tina' Jefferson. I liked his optimism about the chances of finding Veronica's killer, saying he would not stop looking for him. He wanted to make that clear, as he didn't want the killer to go on with his life believing he had gotten away with the murder. (Of course, he was finally caught and identified as Alfredo Prieto in 2005.)

There were also two people from the Dale Kerstetter segment that I liked:

1) Al Kerstetter. Al's positive remarks about his missing father included: "There wasn't a kid in the world that wouldn't want to have him as their dad." This comment was a clear indication to me that Dale was a genuinely likeable man.

2) C. Dale Parry. He was the personnel manager at the factory where Dale Kerstetter worked. Although Parry admittedly had some issues with Dale, such as his status as a "marginal employee", he acknowledged that Dale had risked his life and very likely saved some lives and a considerable amount of money in property value.

He cited an incident that occurred a few years earlier when a forklift accidentally rolled underneath a stream of hot molten glass. The glass was pouring down on to the propane tank behind the forklift. According to Parry, Dale immediately jumped on to the forklift and drove it away from the molten glass.

My picks would be (In no particular order):

1) Anton Kline - I admire the fact that he seems to keep it together and stay level-headed while trying to find out exactly what the hell happened to his girlfriend

2) Timothy W. Maier - The investigative reporter in the Joyce Chiang case. He makes some really valid points (Love the Blockbuster card quip) that Joyce Chiang did not commit suicide.

3) Sheriff Bill Falconer – Investigated the Ethel Kidd kidnapping and murder. He gives the facts in a non-judgmental, unbiased fashion.. I also like the fact that you learn stuff in regards to how they conducted this investigation. Informative and educational! Kudos to the Orange County, VA Sheriff’s Dept. for eventually solving this case

4) Neal Hall - Reporter for the Vancouver Sun on the Cindy James case. Okay maybe this choice makes me the odd man out but I really didn't have a problem with the guy. He makes a lot of valid points that point this case as being a non-homicide, which I’m inclined to believe.
(And for the record, I personally make a point to hide my Canadian accent – although it does slip oot, I mean.. out on occasion… especially if I’m tired or have been drinkin’.)

5) Shirley – The witness in the Dana Satterfield case. As much as I make fun of the line “You know how a crazay person look when they crazay?” ‘cause it's totally hilarious and awesome, I sincerely admire this woman for her instinct and bravery. She seems like good people.

6) Gord McAllister – I feel really sorry for this man and I also really admire him for his bravery. This case just breaks my heart. You have two people just minding their own business and enjoying their twilight years get only to have that all taken away by some f***tard. I really hope someone finds this guy and nails him

7) Rob Shafer – Angela Hammond’s boyfriend. I kinda feel sorry for the guy too. I’m more inclined to think that he had nothing to do with her disappearance. Just seems like too much trouble for one person to go out of their way in this situation. In his UM interview he looks kinda spooked and really, who could blame him?


I’ll probably list a few more people in future posts.

Word.

I pretty much agree with all these. I also liked Mrs. Barry's friend in the Tandevold segment. He just seemed like a really down-to-earth, intelligent guy.

Donna Brown's children, who still want to welcome her with open arms after her many years on the run. I always liked them and was glad they got to see their mom again. They seemed very kind and forgiving.

My favorite was Ken Palmer

The soilder who saw his real life double/twin

The two talked for a while and Ken got the other mans address and then misplaced it on the train and lost the piece of paper

I always felt bad for Ken as he was such a nice guy and reminded me of my grandpa, the way he talked his humor, he just came across as a great guy and I always hoped that his twin/double was still alive and Ken would find him even at such an old age

Patty and David Stallings. Of course, just about every relative of a victim on UM grieves, but you could just tell these two were DEVASTATED by their son's death. Both of them wept uncontrollably. I knew they were completely innocent.

I personally was impressed with Alex Cooper, it was good of him to own up to making the wrong decision dissapearing instead of facing his past. He seemed genuine, and you know it had to eat away at him all those years that he was living a lie, but he genuinely cared for his family and was man enough to admit he made some wrong choices.

Captain Schear from the Judith Hyams case. Thought he was a really nice guy. I thought Curtis Heck from the Kenneth Engie case sounded like an honest and likeable kind of guy.

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Jared Dirickson seems like a nice guy. He seemed very devoted to his father.

Claire Schroeder (Officer Walter Schroeder's daughter from the Kathy Power segment) was extremely well-spoken and intelligent. She managed to convey a sense of empathy for the robbers while seeking justice for her father.

Sheriff Jamie Adams in the Little Miss Panoffskee case. Too many cases on this show have remained unsolved because of inept, lazy or corrupt law enforcement, so it was refreshing to see a cop take such a passionate interest in an unsolved case from many years before. I especially found him endearing when he said: "Being a daddy and a granddaddy, I couldn't accept the fact that this young girl had a family somewhere who didn't know what happened to her".

How about the radio intern that exposed the KROQ dee-jays' asinine and irresponsible murder confession hoax? To see someone just do the right thing because it's right is a great joy. He was quite humble during the interview and just seemed like a nice guy.

Ironic, though. Had Kevin Hughes lived, he would've done the same thing to Chuck Dixon's chart-fixing scheme at Cash Box. :(

My picks would be (In no particular order):



4) Neal Hall - Reporter for the Vancouver Sun on the Cindy James case. Okay maybe this choice makes me the odd man out but I really didn't have a problem with the guy. He makes a lot of valid points that point this case as being a non-homicide, which I’m inclined to believe.
(And for the record, I personally make a point to hide my Canadian accent – although it does slip oot, I mean.. out on occasion… especially if I’m tired or have been drinkin’.)




I liked Neal, too - he just came across as a laid back guy who had his own take on an emotionally charged case. Plus, the loosened tie is always fun to look at.


What about Jay Durham? This guy not only gets through an attempt on his life, but he has to hide on a dark interstate road while watching truckers look around for him. Talk about balls of steel. I was always disappointed that this case was never solved.

What about Jay Durham? This guy not only gets through an attempt on his life, but he has to hide on a dark interstate road while watching truckers look around for him. Talk about balls of steel. I was always disappointed that this case was never solved.

Not to mention that he had to do this after discovering that his friggin' leg was missing!! :eek: I still don't know how he had the wherewithal to use his belt as a tourniquet for his severed leg, and keep himself hidden and quiet like that despite many indescribably painful injuries. The guy really deserved justice, but sadly, I knew this was one of those UM cases that didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting solved.

Clifford Sherwood's mother, Francis Sherwood I have respect for.

Just watched tis case tonight and felt bad for her all through it. She seemed down-to-earth and sensible and she wanted to do the right thing for her children. I've got to hand to her, being a rarity in the days when single mothers were few and far between and not talked about (1954). She has lots of courage.

It was especially sad at the end when she addressed Clifford personally saying something like, "Come home my boy, I love you."

I honestly ting 'Tex', the father had something to do with his diappearance because why wouldn't he talk about it and elaborate with his other children. Something fishy there...but that's just me.

Connie Young (Lee Young's wife). She wanted to believe that her husband was still alive, but was still firmly planted in reality enough to admit that he probably wasn't.

Katie Jelovic (Margie Jelovic's mother) It's always touching when she breaks down and cries for her missing daughter to come home.

Marsha Cook (Angela Hammond's mother) She too, knew that she would most likely never see her daughter again, so instead of not facing the truth, she tried to appeal to the guy by saying "if you'd just call us and let us know what you did with her, at least that would be some kind of closure."

Fred Lyle (the guy who helped Cathy Williams-Loving) Just a really, really nice, nice guy.

Paul Cornwall (Lisa Bishop's boyfriend) Even though everything was apparently not well in the relationship, he still cared enough to travel all over God-knows-where trying to find out everything he possibly could.

Tim Harrell. Resolved to find his mother (even facing the possibility of her being deceased) after finding out that what he apparently knew about her for all of his 50 years on Earth at the time was all lies.

Kevin Poulsen. Even though he was convicted of a fairly serious crime, you have to admire a guy who not only successfully puts all of that behind him, but ends up becoming really, really good at trapping online sex offenders.

I can't remember the name of the case. but it was about a boy who was found near his family's woods. he used to hunt. and the cops believed it was just a hunting accident. his parents believe otherwise. they even found a bullet buried from where his body was found.

Anyway... I really liked the victim's mother. she was so quiet and sweet. she was also very smart. no offense to her but people would probably think she was a Hayseed because they lived on a farm. but she was just so... soft spoken and yet refined. the father seemed like a no nonesense type of guy too.

I can't remember the name of the case. but it was about a boy who was found near his family's woods. he used to hunt. and the cops believed it was just a hunting accident. his parents believe otherwise. they even found a bullet buried from where his body was found.

Anyway... I really liked the victim's mother. she was so quiet and sweet. she was also very smart. no offense to her but people would probably think she was a Hayseed because they lived on a farm. but she was just so... soft spoken and yet refined. the father seemed like a no nonesense type of guy too.


This was the Norman Ladner case, I think. His mother did seem very nice. It was; however, pretty heartbreaking watching her interview, though. Very sad case.

I forgot one of my very favorites.

Arthur Karopoulos. he was the guy who's son was abducted from San Francisco by his religious-fanatic mother. The dedication that this guy put into trying to bring his son back home is truly touching. He traveled all over the country, often sleeping in some pretty icky places, he spent hours following some of these religious fanatics all over New York City and eventually confronted them, and at one point in San Francisco, he even took the chance of being mistaken for a burglar by climbing the pipes on the back of the mother's former residence in an attempt to get into the place to look for any indication of where they might have gone. Fortunately, the case did have a happy ending.

- Bob Matthews from the Missing Time segment. He seemed like just an all-around straightforward, earnest man.

- Christi Nichols' grandmother Violet.

- Not sure if I mentioned this one already or not, but Greg Adams' widow. I want to say her name was Molly. It's been a while since I've seen the segment. She seemed like a very resilient woman.

I forgot one of my very favorites.

Arthur Karopoulos. he was the guy who's son was abducted from San Francisco by his religious-fanatic mother. The dedication that this guy put into trying to bring his son back home is truly touching. He traveled all over the country, often sleeping in some pretty icky places, he spent hours following some of these religious fanatics all over New York City and eventually confronted them, and at one point in San Francisco, he even took the chance of being mistaken for a burglar by climbing the pipes on the back of the mother's former residence in an attempt to get into the place to look for any indication of where they might have gone. Fortunately, the case did have a happy ending.

One of my favorites as well! He was such a kind, resilient man determined to get his son back. I love the update! :D

- Bob Matthews from the Missing Time segment. He seemed like just an all-around straightforward, earnest man.

- Christi Nichols' grandmother Violet.

- Not sure if I mentioned this one already or not, but Greg Adams' widow. I want to say her name was Molly. It's been a while since I've seen the segment. She seemed like a very resilient woman.

Greg Adams' wife's name was Marianne. I must agree with you on this one. She did manage to stay remarkably calm during the interview, even when voicing her disdain for Donald Eugene Webb. I'm always kind of touched by the fact that she never breaks down and says anything "Donald Webb is a piece of scum" or "I'd like to dance on his grave" or anything like that, she just calmly says "I don't know how Donald Webb can live with himself after all these years." in such a sincere, lilting way that hopefully would make Webb or someone like him stop and ask themselves the same thing.

Greg Adams' wife's name was Marianne. I must agree with you on this one. She did manage to stay remarkably calm during the interview, even when voicing her disdain for Donald Eugene Webb. I'm always kind of touched by the fact that she never breaks down and says anything "Donald Webb is a piece of scum" or "I'd like to dance on his grave" or anything like that, she just calmly says "I don't know how Donald Webb can live with himself after all these years." in such a sincere, lilting way that hopefully would make Webb or someone like him stop and ask themselves the same thing.

That's it, Marianne. My sentiments exactly. I really liked that.

I thought of this thread recently while I was watching the episode about the New York coin scam. The victim who was interviewed, Jerry Diner, just seemed like an all-around nice guy. He was taken for less than $200, but it seemed like he took the whole thing in stride and was able to laugh about it later.

One guy I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned yet is Troy Carlton, Patricia Carlton's ex-husband. He just seemed like a very kind-hearted man who genuinely loved his wife and stuck with her through all her mental issues, and even though he eventually re-married and had a new family after she disappeared, he never stopped caring about her and wanting to find her. It's sad Troy wound up passing away before they actually found out Patricia was alive.

I also thought Tony Miller was easily the most likable "Final Appeal" subject profiled on the show. I know you shouldn't assume someone didn't do it because he seems like a nice guy, but he just didn't give off a criminal vibe at all. Even his attorney mentioned that he was one of the most enjoyable people he ever met and I'm glad things wound up working out for him.

I thought of this thread recently while I was watching the episode about the New York coin scam. The victim who was interviewed, Jerry Diner, just seemed like an all-around nice guy. He was taken for less than $200, but it seemed like he took the whole thing in stride and was able to laugh about it later.

"Whatever you do, DO NOT BUY THESE COINS!"

One guy I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned yet is Troy Carlton, Patricia Carlton's ex-husband. He just seemed like a very kind-hearted man who genuinely loved his wife and stuck with her through all her mental issues, and even though he eventually re-married and had a new family after she disappeared, he never stopped caring about her and wanting to find her. It's sad Troy wound up passing away before they actually found out Patricia was alive.

Indeed. Troy Carlton seemed like a really nice guy. Even though he had remarried and started a new family since Pat went missing 20+ years earlier, he was very emotional while being interviewed and insisted that he wanted Pat to come home and have the happiness she deserved. You could tell it was eating him up that she was somewhere living among strangers. I think Pat was found just 2 years after Troy died. :(

Arthur "Pete" Ballard, friend of Ellen McClung Berry. Great voice....and vocabulary!

I liked Julie DePue too. She was candid about the whole situation with her parents. The horror of that situation is that you know the reenactment is accurate because those kids witnessed their dad throwing their mom down the stairs and then kicking her while she was down. Despicable.

Hans and Betty Hanson. They focused on providing a warm and loving home for their kids. For them to ultimately turn their back on Donny...well, that's pretty damning evidence that he was responsible for Jill's and Julie's deaths. And they had saved $50K for those girls to go to college. :(

Sometimes the actors they had in reenactments affected how I felt about the real person. I can't stand the guy playing Bill Day....I thought he came off as such a whiner and a wimp. "But I have my custody agreement...." The whole time I was thinking, DUDE, get the cops there WITH you! Stop whining! Bad me, I know.

And, of course, my favorite is the STACK. Who doesn't love Robert Stack?

I also liked Jeff O. Angela Hammonds boyfriend, Rob, my heart broke for him. He seemed so sweet. As did the dog caretaker/ lover Mabel Woods.

Claire Schroeder (Officer Walter Schroeder's daughter from the Kathy Power segment) was extremely well-spoken and intelligent. She managed to convey a sense of empathy for the robbers while seeking justice for her father.


I liked her a lot also. She was a great spokesperson for the family.

I LOVE Lisa Penz (dodges tomatoes!) I think she was hilarious...I mean she was 300 pounds...you dont get lost ina big city when you are enormous...and this is a big city!

I agree with a lot of the ones already brought up and I want to add:

Ladonna Morrow---I felt extremely sorry for her and the issues she had with her mother. I think my own mom can get on my nerves, but to have one that unbalanced simply because her adult daughter wasn't doing what she wanted...I'm glad her story had a happy ending and I don't believe she was involved with Satanic abuse.

Ray & Dottie Thornton---a lot of people have raked them over the coals for what they did but they certainly had guts following Dennis Depue and tracing his steps. I would have been scared out of my wits. Considering how many people don't want to get involved and help victims' families out these days, I give them some credit.

The reporter who started working on the Ohio prostitute killer case (don't recall his name)

The sheriff who started getting those creepy phone calls about Judith Himes. There was just something about him that made him really likeable for me.

Pat Conway, I felt so bad about how his wife Ayleen died. I wonder if he was able to find anything out.

Leon Camp---so composed even though he went through a time with the "wife's ex-inlaws from hell." I think any other man would have beaten the crap out of Chad and given his mom and grandmother what for.

I second Leon Camp.

Joyce McClain's mother. She seemed so kind and I felt so bad for her when she was speaking of her daughter's plans for the future.

I also loved Mrs. Barry's author friend Arthur "Pete" Ballard. He was very classy and I agree with his theory about Tandevold.

Lori Tillman, Deborah Poe's friend and roommate. She seemed very determined to figure out what happened to her friend and go after the suspect.

I believe I already mentioned Colleen Ritter. I found her incredibly strong and admirable.

Duncan, the lost loves father. He was such a kind, sweet man and easily one of the most likable people on the show to me.

Jeff Oberholtzer. I thought he was innocent from the first and he seemed truly torn up about his wife. I could understand his anger at the police not focusing much on anyone else.

Anton Kline. I really feel bad for him. I can't look at the Hollywood sign without thinking of this case.

Rose Hoffman, an incredibly courageous woman.

Susan Billig, also very strong and brave. It's so sad she never got answers during her lifetime, but I hope one day the mystery will be solved.

Elizabeth Campbell's parents. I hope they are still well, though I know they would be getting up there in age today.

Mrs. Kimmel- I know shek posts here on the boards regularly and was only briefly interviewed in the segment, but she is a strong, very inspirational lady.

Gilbert Ortiz. I can't believe his son beat him up. He's been through a lot and I hope things can get better for him.

Denise, the woman stalked by her ex-boyfriend. It can be very difficult to break out of those abusive relationships (whether physical, verbal, etc.) and she sure went through a lot trying to get away from him. Hopefully she is more secure today.

The police officer who thought that the Bonderson case was murder and not an accident (which turned out to be right).

The police officer who re-started the investigation into Little Miss Pannasoffkee(sp?)

Jeannie Boylan. Her composites are incredible and very helpful to the solving of cases.

Michael Fagan. It was quite clear Pat Fagan wasn't playing with a full deck at all, but he certainly didn't have to treat her as well as he did. It is also extremely refreshing to know he assumed full responsibility for his son and seemed to love him immensely. I think he's a hero.

I really liked Ron Lieberman, the doctor whose wife vanished the day before 9/11. You could tell how worried he was and I really felt for him, especially when he mentioned that the last time he saw his wife he left his keys at home "luckily" and got to go back and kiss her again.

I really admired a lot of the lost loves interviewees who were determined to keep searching for their loved ones. One that came to mind a few minute ago was Lorene Robinson (not sure if I have that right, I'd have to see it again). Once she found her siblings, she wasn't bitter about separation, but about the whole new chapter ahead. A lot of the interviewees had some pretty admirable traits.

Michael Shermer, founder of the Skeptics Society. As far as I am concerned, he single-handedly debunked the Bible Code in the UM segment. "well now wait a minute...you can't say the end will come, the end might come, the end won't come...you've now made all possible predictions. That's not prophecy."

You still see him a lot on the History Channel, offering his perspective on Nostradamus as well as many other topics.

Wow, this is a great thread. I've tried all day to remember the name of the woman I want to add to the list, but unfortunately I'm drawing a blank. She was the foster mom of a little boy who was very timid and shy when he first came to her home, but really blossomed while he was staying with her family. It was obvious she really loved the boy, but he was taken from the home when the family had to move to another state. She and her husband had hoped to adopt him, but were not allowed to because of the move. As I remember it, they were eventually reunited after the original UM segment aired and he also found his biological brother through the telecast. I also liked the two men who had been friends when they were serving together in Vietnam and were finally reunited in Hawaii. One of them said there was no word to describe how happy he was, but when the word was invented he would let us know.

Wow, this is a great thread. I've tried all day to remember the name of the woman I want to add to the list, but unfortunately I'm drawing a blank. She was the foster mom of a little boy who was very timid and shy when he first came to her home, but really blossomed while he was staying with her family. It was obvious she really loved the boy, but he was taken from the home when the family had to move to another state. She and her husband had hoped to adopt him, but were not allowed to because of the move. As I remember it, they were eventually reunited after the original UM segment aired and he also found his biological brother through the telecast. I also liked the two men who had been friends when they were serving together in Vietnam and were finally reunited in Hawaii. One of them said there was no word to describe how happy he was, but when the word was invented he would let us know.
The first case you are talking about it Jean Warren, who was the foster mom to Roger Lindsley. I agree she was a very nice woman, and i'm glad they were reunited. The second case is Mitchell Shigemoto and Jim Pearson, and the Mitchell was searching for Jim, after he saved him in Vietnam. That was also a great reunion:)

Zel Loseff, absolutely. Very determined lady. I was sorry to hear she had passed away last year, but I believe she lived to 100 or 101. I had hoped the case would be solved, but not yet. I really think the wife had something to do with it. But back on topic, Zel was gracious, had pretty good evidence to support her cause, and rather than being bitter, was simply pushing to make things right and get answers.

Here I am again with another one of my weird thread topics, but the "People On UM You Just Didn't Like" thread gave me the idea. Just as there's been people I've not liked on UM, there have been some that, for some reason, I've also kinda liked.

Here's a few:

Jeff Oberholtzer. He seemed like the most chill, mild-mannered man in the world. I never thought he "did it" and I was impressed with the way he never got belligerent or bitter even though everyone suspected him of committing the Orange Sock murders. I only wish his wife's killer could be found.

Dorothy Sova. Under her "mom" facade I think she's really a very streetwise woman with a very strong spirit.

Curtis Henry. He reminds me so much of my stepdad.



What about you guys?

Gord McAllister- I wanted to just hug him :( I felt his grief when he was talking about the murder

Jeff Oberholtzer-I know a few ppl mentioned him but u can tell he's a good guy.

Kathy Hobbs Mother(Vivian Hobbs)- Shes seems like a nice lady

Leon Camp-Yeah he does look kinda creepy but u can tell he was no child molester and cared for Wendy..

Michael Shermer, founder of the Skeptics Society. As far as I am concerned, he single-handedly debunked the Bible Code in the UM segment. "well now wait a minute...you can't say the end will come, the end might come, the end won't come...you've now made all possible predictions. That's not prophecy."

You still see him a lot on the History Channel, offering his perspective on Nostradamus as well as many other topics.

To be honest, even though I'm not a believer of the Bible Code, I'm not really a fan of Michael Shermer, either. Just because something is a bit "out there," doesn't necessarily mean that it automatically has no truth to it, and Shermer has appeared in numerous "unexplained" UM segments, always ready and eager to discredit the subject at hand and all who believe it it.

I liked Danny Wheeler, he was quite the entertainer in his interview.

To be honest, even though I'm not a believer of the Bible Code, I'm not really a fan of Michael Shermer, either. Just because something is a bit "out there," doesn't necessarily mean that it automatically has no truth to it, and Shermer has appeared in numerous "unexplained" UM segments, always ready and eager to discredit the subject at hand and all who believe it it.

One reason I really like Shermer was I couldn't stand James Van Praagh. You really need the other perspective on UM to put these cold reading "psychics" in their place. (That said, I was very impressed with some of the psychics that provided clues to help solve murder cases - who are in a different league form the cold-reading psyhics). Van Praagh is clearly a fraud who preys on people's emotions and grief ("I can see your grandmother and she really loves you".)

I really liked Jodie Bordeaux's husband, Shawn Bordeaux. I felt so bad for that man. Especially his ending comments on how even though his wife was murdered, she went quick, but his baby suffered and died. I really hope they find who killed her but I doubt it will ever happen.

Michael Fagan. It was quite clear Pat Fagan wasn't playing with a full deck at all, but he certainly didn't have to treat her as well as he did. It is also extremely refreshing to know he assumed full responsibility for his son and seemed to love him immensely. I think he's a hero.

I agree 100%. I admire alot of people on UM, but he was one of the stand outs for me. Just seemed the dad every kid would want to have. I am so glad the child was reunited with him, he is an infinitely better parent than that skank Pat was. She obviously was not cut out for motherhood.

Denise Williams: The young lady Randall Utterback put through hell almost 20 years ago and is still on the run.

Donna Brown's kids. Even though she ran off and helped a prison inmate escape, they still wanted to welcome her with open arms and very little bitterness. Very, very compassionate of two kids whose mother abandoned them. I think most of the people in the segment were very empathetic towards a lady whose two husbands were murdered, even the FBI not willing to prosecute and all.

Gwen Krewson - she died sadly without knowing where her daughter Holly was. Holly's remains were found in 1996 but weren't identified until 2006.

Magi Bish - Molly Bish's mom. Broke my heart to see her cry in the segment and then to find out her daughter is dead years later.

Jeanine Price - when she welled up because she knew her half-sister was going to die

Gordon McAllister - he couldn't hold back the tears in that segment. Feel so bad that he saw his own wife shot in front of him

Tammy Papler - the madam whose "girls" were murdered in the massage parlor they worked at

Danyel Wofford-Simmons - Tracy Wofford-Bunn's sister. I felt bad when she said "even though I've seen her body, I've seen her, I've buried her". The sadness and frustration on her face tells the story.

so many more I can name but I'm getting sleepy

Ladonna Morrow, the mother that had a son named Jared. She strikes me as a good and stable mother. Ladonna's mother indoctrinated and brainwashed the child to say horrible things about Ladonna, like he was molested in a satanic cult. The mother had to keep going to court and only had limited visitation with her son until it was proven the grandmother was lying about it all. When she lost in court she then kidnapped the boy. Soon after he was returned to his mother.

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Great choices by everyone: especially Jeannie Wagner, Duncan gilmore, and his wife who seemed like great people; Arthur "Pete" Ballard, and etc.

Here are some of my other favorites:

Jill Jensen, former coke addict who quit using after her journey to Medjugorje; now speaks to teens about drug prevention.

Gilbert Ortiz, the man poisoned by his wife, reunited with his son after 8 years; just a decent guy who didn't deserve his ex-wife's treatment.

Don Devereux, crackerjack reporter involved with the Charles Morgan case and targeted for a hit which instead befell Doug Johnston; seems insightful and knows how to get info.

Stephanie Booker, who has shoen a lot of moxie and courage throughout her ordeal of have 12 reconstructive surgeries after a speed hit and ran her and her two friends.

I can't think of her name, but the mom who was close to the son who was last seen at a campground in British Columbia. I thought she was really classy and pretty, hope she finds her son someday.

I can't think of her name, but the mom who was close to the son who was last seen at a campground in British Columbia. I thought she was really classy and pretty, hope she finds her son someday.

I think that might be Charles Horvath's mom, Denise Allan.

http://www.unsolved.com/ajaxfiles/mis_charles_horvath.htm

[QUOTE=TracyLynnS]I think that might be Charles Horvath's mom, Denise Allan.

Yeah, that's the case!

The father in the Sara Jo segment, who risked his life to go out in the storm to find his son. He just seemed like a very selfless and kind man.

Not sure if it's been said before but the people in the Philip Frazier segment there was the mother and daughter who worked in the cafe at the rest stop and the the couple who helped the murderer after his car broke down and Philip seemed like a nice person too.

Don Devereaux is my hero.
Also, someone I wouldn't've mentioned is Colleen Ritter, but someone said she as admirable, & I think so too!

Yes, Don Devereaux! Anyone know what he's up to today?

I liked John Tweedy from the Judge John Fairbanks segment.

I also liked the female detective from the Veronica Jefferson segment.

Yeah, I liked how John Tweedy summed up the dual personas of Judge Fairbanks; he sure isn't a fool.

Harry Easterling from the Dave Bocks segment. He was the only one at that plant that gave a darn about Dave. I also liked Dave's daughter who was interviewed in the segment.

Harry Easterling from the Dave Bocks segment. He was the only one at that plant that gave a darn about Dave. I also liked Dave's daughter who was interviewed in the segment.
I also liked the former employee who said that a murder was the only possibility; he seemed very concerned and sad

I also liked D.C. Cole

The judge in the Sheldon Weinburg case who sentenced him. Her speech was powerful and hard-hitting.

Yeah, I liked what that judge had to say also; The Weiburgs were just outlandish with milking medicad funds. I mean, according to that investigator, they even got lazy with their phony billing statements.

I liked John Tweedy from the Judge John Fairbanks segment.


I liked John Tweedy too. I also liked one of the women interviewed--I think her name was Patricia Smith. She seemed like a very no-nonsense kind of lady.

I also liked:

-The priest interviewed in the Sacred Heart Boise John Doe segment. I felt like he was very compassionate and caring.

-Colleen Ritter

-Ladonna Morrow

-Joannie McCorkendale

-Mike Riemer's friend. He seemed concerned for his friend's well-being above all else, even though he was willing to concede that Mike might have been involved.

-Bill Pope, the D.A. in the Cheryl Holland segment

Pete Ballard from the Ellen McClung Berry case. I thought he was cool.

Rachel Raver's mother was very likable. She was determined to get justice and I loved her attitude. At the trial of her daughter's killer, she gave him a piece of her mind, too. What an awesome woman.


I liked the friend interviewed in the Nancy Manni case, just the way she spoke about her friend and really cared about her.

I think I mentioned her before, but Debbie Wolfe's mother was one of my favorite people interviewed. She obviously loved her daughter very much and wanted to be certain that justice was done, without being overly bitter at the obviously lackluster police investigation.

No kidding, Rachel Raver's mom basically solved the case herself (good thing for that traffic ticket). With her viewing the show and connecting the previous murder, she was excellent. My heart went out to her.

-Mike Riemer's friend. He seemed concerned for his friend's well-being above all else, even though he was willing to concede that Mike might have been involved.

I liked this guy too, and thought the same thing about him conceding that Mike may have had a hand in Diana's disappearance.

For some reason, I also like Joe Jones. The security guard who found Su Ya Kim’s body. I never got the guilty vibe from him. Just seems like a nice person..

Everyone interviewed in the Egypt-centered episode was very enjoyable to listen to.

The Older Scholar: A prime example of someone who loves what he does and studies. I loved it when he talked about the air thousands of years old rushing out.

The younger professor: Very friendly and articulate.

The Egyptian man who explained the words inside the tombs and talked about how he worked in them with his men. He just seemed really friendly and happy to talk about the subject.

For some reason, I also like Joe Jones. The security guard who found Su Ya Kim’s body. I never got the guilty vibe from him. Just seems like a nice person..

Oh me neither. I never thought he had anything to do with it. He was just a regular guy working his job. I couldn't fault him for taking 20 bucks to look the other way with someone dumping trash. I would have done the same.

I liked the ME from the Clarence Roberts segment. He was very easygoing and actually willing to admit he made a mistake rather than being stubborn about it.

Yeah. I also liked the guard from the Su Ya Kim segment. He was SO real. The chagrin on his face was obvious when he copped to taking the twenty. And he seemed genuinely bummed he didn't realize what had happened.

Henry Rollins. Even if I didn't already think that Henry Rollins was awesome, the way this guy, who is diesel beyond diesel showed such real human fear and sadness at the loss of his friend touched my soul.

Mrs. Bish.

I thought Henry Rollins made an excellent witness as well; his description of the whole scenario from the grocery store onward was so clear!

Jim Fontes, the police officer who had his two sons abducted by his ex-wife. Seemed like a very nice man and loving father and even though his kids were stolen from him for nine years, I was glad to see them get a happy ending together.

Bruce Hackert, the undercover cop who organized the elaborate sting operation to indict 18 organized crime members of attempted bribery. Seemed like a top-notch professional and the scene where he busted them all together at that party was classic.

For some reason, I also like Joe Jones. The security guard who found Su Ya Kim’s body. I never got the guilty vibe from him. Just seems like a nice person..

I really liked him as well. Just a nice, basically honest guy.

I liked the ME from the Clarence Roberts segment. He was very easygoing and actually willing to admit he made a mistake rather than being stubborn about it.

I agree with you on this one. He was very open an honest. He admitted to his mistake and was willing to speak at length about how he had been so sure the first body was Clarence until the second one was found.

I liked the ME from the Clarence Roberts segment. He was very easygoing and actually willing to admit he made a mistake rather than being stubborn about it.

Yes, that takes humility. I appreciated that.


I actually liked Jimmy Aprile. I know in the past a couple of people have perceived him as smug, but I don't think so. I thought he was very even-keeled, articulate, and had a hell of a resolve to get through his illness, weight loss, and financial problems.

Although he was a wanted "bad guy" , I have to say Paddy Mitchell was quite a likeable fella :) ....

I actually liked Jimmy Aprile. I know in the past a couple of people have perceived him as smug, but I don't think so. I thought he was very even-keeled, articulate, and had a hell of a resolve to get through his illness, weight loss, and financial problems.
Me, too. I didn't think he was smug at all. And he's right, too. Ditching your husband (who is seriously ill to boot), draining the bank accounts, and taking off with the children is pretty much the epitome of greed and selfishness. Melvine didn't just steal money, she planned the whole thing meticulously and used every ruse to do it. I always liked him and was glad he got his kids back.

And he's right, too. Ditching your husband (who is seriously ill to boot), draining the bank accounts, and taking off with the children is pretty much the epitome of greed and selfishness.

Agreed.

Melvine didn't just steal money, she planned the whole thing meticulously and used every ruse to do it. I always liked him and was glad he got his kids back.

Yes, that was another thing--his concern was primarily for his children, not getting the money back.

Agreed about Jimmy Alprile. A lot of rich people only marry other rich people, so when he married the dirt poor Melville - I think that says something about him right there. He loved her for who she was (well, who he *thought* she was) and not her background.

I cannot believe I've gone this long without adding Rohrey Wychgel to this thread. Not a bitter bone in his body, even though he was absolutely randomly assailed in the middle of the night and was left with paralysis. I remember him saying in his interview he was more grateful than he could ever express for his neighbors and the hospital staff that saved his life. He actually posted to the board a few years ago and was just a totally friendly, great guy. Amazingly great and admirable attitude.

Jim Fontes, the police officer who had his two sons abducted by his ex-wife. Seemed like a very nice man and loving father and even though his kids were stolen from him for nine years, I was glad to see them get a happy ending together.

Totally agree. Jim Fontes rules. I think that segment definitely has one of the best updates in all of UM. The boys just look so full of life and happy.

Bruce Hackert, the undercover cop who organized the elaborate sting operation to indict 18 organized crime members of attempted bribery. Seemed like a top-notch professional and the scene where he busted them all together at that party was classic.

"Is this where we all get arrested?"

:rofl:





....Yes.

Barbara Petrofski (sorry I butchered the spelling). This woman has been through it all. Her fiance had her arrested, she miscarried, he had her shot and she became paralyzed...yet she has such a positive attitude about not giving up and going on. I love the end of the segment when it shows her working with kids, getting married to her doctor, and walking with a new technology. She deserves all the happiness she can get. She was also very frank in talking about how much she cared for her fiance all those years before. I felt so much empathy for her.

Another one to add, as I'm reminded by Meg's avatar, Barbara Rondeau. She was so devoted to Tom and just generally seemed to be a caring person. It was so sad to see her have to come to terms with him never coming back, and she also pretty much accepted that it was him they had found but she still had a bit of hope it wasn't. I've seen some people online give her flack for how she called Tom her ''lover, father, guide'' but I think she was just really trying to hammer home how much she loved him and how much he meant to her.

Denise Horvath, who went searching for her missing son and even went to dangerous areas to find him. She kind of reminded me of Rose Hoffman and Susan Billig.

My girl Bonnie Wilder! Obviously what she did was wrong, but you have to admire her creativity and ability to disappear (even though she was enormous! :lol: ). She had everything so thought out, right down to the fact that if she ever was caught, she'd most likely get let off the hook anyway. Bonnie is definitely my fave UM villain!!!!

Another one to add, as I'm reminded by Meg's avatar, Barbara Rondeau. She was so devoted to Tom and just generally seemed to be a caring person. It was so sad to see her have to come to terms with him never coming back, and she also pretty much accepted that it was him they had found but she still had a bit of hope it wasn't. I've seen some people online give her flack for how she called Tom her ''lover, father, guide'' but I think she was just really trying to hammer home how much she loved him and how much he meant to her.

Yes, I liked her too. I could really identify with her. I never thought her description of Tom was strange either--I thought it was beautiful and totally got what she meant.

Also, Wishful, I am in agreement with you on Denise Williams, whom you posted a few pages back. I know that thread comes up every once in a while and some of Randall Utterback's friends and relations claim she wasn't what she seemed in the interview, but I don't know how close that is to the truth. She seemed pretty down-to-earth and totally likeable to me.

I should also make mention Susan Harrison's two sons, Nick and Jon, who seemed very nice and incredibly mature in their UM interviews. Last year, I read the book about the case from Susan's sister and they both sounded like very loving sons who never stopped supporting their mother even when she was trapped in an abusive relationship. Since Jim Harrison is now dead, it's shame they never really got justice for their mother.

Totally agree. Jim Fontes rules. I think that segment definitely has one of the best updates in all of UM. The boys just look so full of life and happy.



"Is this where we all get arrested?"

:rofl:

He had guts to do that. That was such a dangerous mission. I would have gone into hiding after that.



....Yes.

I liked Katherine Scott from the Henderson, NV bank robbery segment. Not only was she great with a quote, but it took a lot of courage for her to snap that picture while in fear of being shot at. I thought she was courageous, helpful, funny and likable.

Crawford Wheeler (the lead detective from the Tracy Wofford-Bunn story). He spoke with a very lilting, empathetic manner during his whole interview, as though deeply saddened by the whole thing, yet optimistic that justice would come someday.

I agree with you on Crawford Wheeler.

I liked Curtis Heck. I thought his reactions to Kenneth Ingy's shenanigans were really level-headed. Kenny was drunk, harrassing the bar maid, calling her tramp, starting fights and what not. Curtis got the better of him in the fight, but instead of going farther and beating him to a pulp, he told him to just walk out the front door. I think a lot of guys in that situation would have taken advantage and beat the living snot out of him, but he tried to diffuse the problem. Granted, I bet Curtis probably wishes he never went to Kenneth's house that night, but next to Kenneth, Curtis comes off looking really good.

I thought that Kenneth Ingy segment was total filler. If that's the closest thing they have to a suspicious death in North Dakota, it must be even more of a low-crime state that I thought it was. There was no mystery at all. I think UM was short on cases that week, or maybe they just wanted to represent ND.

I thought that Kenneth Ingy segment was total filler. If that's the closest thing they have to a suspicious death in North Dakota, it must be even more of a low-crime state that I thought it was. There was no mystery at all. I think UM was short on cases that week, or maybe they just wanted to represent ND.

LOL :lol:

I really liked Eleanor Farber's daughter-in-law. She was present when John Burns committed the murder and was fully prepared to grab a shotgun to defend her MIL; she just wasn't able to grab it in time.

Crawford Wheeler (the lead detective from the Tracy Wofford-Bunn story). He spoke with a very lilting, empathetic manner during his whole interview, as though deeply saddened by the whole thing, yet optimistic that justice would come someday.

I liked him, too. It was obvious that he was working very hard on that case.

I liked Matthew Gibson, Poloma Gibson's older brother. If you recall, Poloma was abducted from her father Paul by her mother Melody Martin in 1989. He seemed like such an intelligent, articulate young man, and one who had to develop an immense amount of emotional fortitude very quickly in response to something he had absolutely no control over. I just wanted to hug him. :(

Fortunately, Poloma was reunited with the rest of her family very quickly and appears to have a good relationship with both parents today, which I think is great.

I liked Tom Sawyer. Not only was he great with the quotes (anybody that can say "no-no" twice in one sentence gets a thumbs-up in my book), but by all accounts, he just seemed like a real, genuinely nice and positive person. I also liked that one goofy face he made in one of the pictures at the beginning of his piece. I was saddened to learn he died several years ago, but at least he now has the chance to explore Heaven a lot more in-depth.

I liked Tom Sawyer. Not only was he great with the quotes (anybody that can say "no-no" twice in one sentence gets a thumbs-up in my book), but by all accounts, he just seemed like a real, genuinely nice and positive person. I also liked that one goofy face he made in one of the pictures at the beginning of his piece. I was saddened to learn he died several years ago, but at least he now has the chance to explore Heaven a lot more in-depth.

I second this. Always liked Tom Sawyer.

Diana Nyad.

William Byram from the Kathy Bonderson segment. The guy is a hero, IMO. Without his insistence and actual police work, Kathy's death probably would have still been classified as an accident to this day.

In the astrology and investment episode, a lady is interviewed on the streets. Can't remember the exact quote but she says something along the lines of ''If I knew that my husband was investing our money in x stock based on astrology, I would grab the thermometer and call the doctor because I would know that he had lost his mind.'' Just the way she said it was really funny, too. :lol:

Det. William Eskridge of the South Lyon (MI) Police Department, who searched for John Burns for over a decade before he was found. You could tell he not deeply cared about capturing John Burns, but was probably just as captivated and perplexed by the case as we UM viewers would eventually become. I'm sure he probably didn't intend to do it, but he made some great quotes that really highlighted how truly mysterious the case was:

"I really don't know where John Burns is from. Nor do I know when he was born. As a matter of fact, I can't be positive John Burns was born in the United States."

"I think it's very conceivable that John Burns is still alive. And maybe even watching this TV show."

I also read a news article featuring John Burns' capture and insistence that Eleanor Farver's murder was accidental, and that what happened was that his finger was on the trigger as she violently pushed the muzzle of the shotgun away from her. Det. Eskridge was quoted as saying something to the effect of, "What he can't explain is how exactly that happened three times."

I know he (obviously) wasn't interviewed, but definitely Alejandro Espinoza. He risked himself to get the Night Stalker incarcerated and didn't seem to be into the monetary reward at all. I really hope he wasn't murdered and just went into hiding.

I liked Sally McNelly's friend Helen Williams a lot. Even though you could tell Sally might have exasperated her a little bit, it seems she stuck by her until the end and was overall a compassionate friend.

I liked Sally McNelly's friend Helen Williams a lot. Even though you could tell Sally might have exasperated her a little bit, it seems she stuck by her until the end and was overall a compassionate friend.

She seemed nice, innocent enough and a little naive. My only issue with her was her brushing off the seriousness of that last phone call with Sally. I'm sure she regrets it now and she probably will the rest of her life. But the way that whole scenario unfolded frustrated me.

Sally called her very upset, scared and told her that some person is probably going to kill her. Helen didn't believe her. She didn't ask for details. And she said herself that it never dawned on her to call Sally's mother and let her know what Sally told her.

This issue wasn't just restricted to Helen. There were a number of segments over the years that involved people telling family members or loved ones about death threats and I was always amazed at how these people never seemed to believe them or take them seriously. To me, that's something that can never be joked about. If someone close to me said that someone was going to kill them, sure I'd be skeptical at first but I would bug the hell out of them until I got details about why they said that. Then I would know how to react. I wouldn't immediately brush it off.

Harry Easterling from the Dave Bocks segment. He was the only one at that plant that gave a darn about Dave. I also liked Dave's daughter who was interviewed in the segment.

*time to quote a 2-year-old post!*

I liked Harry Easterling a lot. He seems like a good bro to know. He's concerned about Dave, is observant and recognizes when things are clearly not right, follows up on his hunches, gets security involved, tells his story in a very straightforward and factual manner. Great guy on the segment.

And while on the subject of the Dave Bocks segment, which is one of my favorites, there are two other people from that segment that I find memorable.

Dave's daughter is definitely my biggest UM crush. In spite of her bad period haircut, she's definitely a looker. Great eyes.

And DC Cole is without question my favorite UM interviewee to laugh at. That guy is just so weird.

I liked harry Esterling as well; him and Dave Bocks had a good buddy system going on.
Yeah, I thought Dave Bocks' daughter was really pretty (on my short list for UM crushes); I even like the rodeo hairdo!

You know, even though he was considered a suspect in the murder, I actually liked Eric Smith from the Eric Tamiyasu segment. I think it's very unlikely he had anything to do with Tamiyasu's death and only became a suspect because Don Dixon pointed the finger at him. Smith definitely comes off a lot better than Dixon or Sheriff Wampler.

I think I like Smith mostly because of his hilarious delivery of the line: "Don lives in a fantasy world". I also like how when Smith says that Tamiyasu was his best man, the segment immediately cuts to a photograph of them together at his wedding. Unlike Dixon, the guy actually has credible evidence to back up his claims about Tamiyasu's friendship.

Oh, that sheriff was dubious; I mean, who burns a mattress that could have trace evidence? He's either a real yokel, or he had something to hide. I think it's unlikely that case will ever be solved.

Jim Fontes, the police officer who had his two sons abducted by his ex-wife. Seemed like a very nice man and loving father and even though his kids were stolen from him for nine years, I was glad to see them get a happy ending together.

Just recently rewatched this segment and it irks me how much the Iowa child protective services dropped the ball on this case. I just don't get how after going through all the trouble of investigating Terry & Kathy Durkin, going through their trash, etc., they couldn't wait a few more hours for Jim to get to Iowa to retrieve his children after Durkin was arrested. Then it was another nine years before he saw them again. Could have so easily been avoided and saved the poor guy the years of anguish. He seemed like such a nice guy and I really felt for him. So glad it was a happy ending.

Judge Geiler's first housekeeper, Sophia. Not only did she help the Judge while on the job, even after she had to leave she stayed with him to make sure he got new housekeeper that could suit his needs. You could sense that she really tried to find a good housekeeper and it wasn't negligence on her part that led to him being swindled.

She even continued to drop by for years after having to resign to check on him and help him out. She actually cared about him. May Andelina Gonzalez, her complete opposite, rot.

Judge Geiler's first housekeeper, Sophia. Not only did she help the Judge while on the job, even after she had to leave she stayed with him to make sure he got new housekeeper that could suit his needs. You could sense that she really tried to find a good housekeeper and it wasn't negligence on her part that led to him being swindled.

She even continued to drop by for years after having to resign to check on him and help him out. She actually cared about him. May Andelina Gonzalez, her complete opposite, rot.

I agree wholeheartedly. I distinctly remember liking Sophia from the first time I saw the segment in the 90's. Went above and beyond the call of duty. You could tell she actually cared and she wasn't just there for a paycheck. Sadly, that type of thing isn't as common these days. I can't tell you how many people I've worked with in the last several years that were solely interested in what they could get out of our employer and were totally disinterested in what they could provide for our company (and in most cases, they didn't contribute much to the company).

I liked Sonny Liston's housekeeper as well. She just seemed level-headed and well-spoken in addition to her being concerned about the circumstances surrounding Liston's death.

I might have mentioned it earlier, but I also really liked Cecil Truceau from the Gertrude Pruitt segment.

All the lost saviors featured. People who just did the right thing BECAUSE it was the right thing and faded away into their lives:
-The blood donor from Newport News that saved the baby
-The woman who picked the new dad motorcycle guy out of the ditch
-The couple who saved the family in the Mexican Christmas accident
-The man who rescued the baby from the car accident in Waltham, MA
-The two guys with the boat who helped the deputy on a prisoner transport
-The woman who sat accompanied the teenager to the hospital and stayed with her while her grandmother was treated and then died

And several more.

Others:
Troy Carlton and his new wife-His tireless efforts to fine his ex-wife with the support of new new wife were a pretty profound expression of the humor spirit

Gordon Page Sr-He obviously though he was doing the best thing for his son. And he obviously was racked with guilt, despite doing what the doctors considered was best for his son at the time.

Rob Schaffer-He loved her. He tried to save her. His failure obviously ate at his soul.

The family that found the hatbox bay-While I don't believe the "official" story, it's obvious they went to great lengths to get the baby a good home and help out a family member in a time that would have led to shame and pain for the 15 year old biological mother AND the baby.

Suzanne Davis-This woman, in the hands of an obvious pedophile, managed to live as normal a life as possible

Lois Duncan-She pursued her daughter's killers with great drive and passion

Gary Grant, Sr-I felt so bad for this guy, wondering if his son's murder was a message to him

Philip Taylor Kramer-The man was a genius even outside of his association with Iron Butterfly

Henry Freaking Rollins-'nuff said

All the kids looking for their soldier friends from WWII and their soldiers

The family in the Christmas truce dinner during WWII and their soldiers

The two Barbaras looking for their birth mom


I could go on and on

John Grudhoffer's kidnapper. One of the most affable kidnappers you could hope for.

Seeing the Pal Mealbach segment for the very first time, I really liked her and her whole "being rich isn't for me" attitude. You could tell she genuinely did not care if she got any money from being related to the Dodges, she just wanted to find her family. Her daughter on the other hand...:eek:

Judge Geiler's first housekeeper, Sophia. Not only did she help the Judge while on the job, even after she had to leave she stayed with him to make sure he got new housekeeper that could suit his needs. You could sense that she really tried to find a good housekeeper and it wasn't negligence on her part that led to him being swindled.

She even continued to drop by for years after having to resign to check on him and help him out. She actually cared about him. May Andelina Gonzalez, her complete opposite, rot.

I remember how shocked I was when I learned Judge Geiler's tumultuous backstory and how he was removed from the bench for numerous incidents of sexual harassment. But somehow this made me like Sophia even more. There's no indication that Judge Geiler ever mistreated Sophia, but it couldn't have been easy being a caregiver for a guy with such a history of erratic behaviour, yet Sophia genuinely cared about him. In fact, I've always wondered if Sophia's influence helped the judge mellow out over the years since he seemed like a sweet enough old man in the segment.

Seeing the Pal Mealbach segment for the very first time, I really liked her and her whole "being rich isn't for me" attitude. You could tell she genuinely did not care if she got any money from being related to the Dodges, she just wanted to find her family. Her daughter on the other hand...:eek:

Love Pat Mealbach. I especially liked that exchange between her and her daughter walking on the grounds of the Dodge estate: I think her daughter said something like "But wouldn't you want to live in a place like this?", whereupon Pat said something to the effect of "I wouldn't know what to do with all this room". :cool:

I also liked the observation she made about the closeness of the Dodges. For her, it was obvious she felt it was more important to have things money can't buy, like warmth and closeness in a family.

I remember how shocked I was when I learned Judge Geiler's tumultuous backstory and how he was removed from the bench for numerous incidents of sexual harassment. But somehow this made me like Sophia even more. There's no indication that Judge Geiler ever mistreated Sophia, but it couldn't have been easy being a caregiver for a guy with such a history of erratic behaviour, yet Sophia genuinely cared about him. In fact, I've always wondered if Sophia's influence helped the judge mellow out over the years since he seemed like a sweet enough old man in the segment.

Great observation. She had to have been a very special person.

I remember how shocked I was when I learned Judge Geiler's tumultuous backstory and how he was removed from the bench for numerous incidents of sexual harassment. But somehow this made me like Sophia even more. There's no indication that Judge Geiler ever mistreated Sophia, but it couldn't have been easy being a caregiver for a guy with such a history of erratic behaviour, yet Sophia genuinely cared about him. In fact, I've always wondered if Sophia's influence helped the judge mellow out over the years since he seemed like a sweet enough old man in the segment.
I wonder if he had simply changed and learned from his errors or maybe she did contribute, seeing how kind she appeared to be from the segment. I had forgotten that she stuck around for years, not just months, after resigning to check on the judge, which is why I felt the need to post about her in this thread.She definitely wasn't in it for the money and just seemed an all-around good person. I also thought it was kind of cute how she called him "Judge" instead of "the judge" as though that was his name. :)

Yeah, she seemed like a genuinely good person. As for Judge (I'll call him that too now:-), he lived in a less liberal society. Also, as someone once said, "I'm never surprised to hear what a man will do to and for a woman".

The Judge Geiler segment was always one of the saddest for me, until I found out about his past. But Sophia seemed like such a genuinely nice person.

I liked the brave woman who saved the man from drowning, the man was later paralyzed. I forget their names...only thing I can remember is that she was not the petite woman the reenactment portrayed

Edit: Linda Potts and Phillip Macri. Here's a recent picture of them from May 2011! They look to still remain good friends.

http://i.imgur.com/CaNqU9a.jpg

I know the allagash abductions were just recently discussed but I just love Charlie Foltz just because he cracks me up.

"If you believe in it that's alright. If you don't, I don't care....I DONT CARE BECAUSE IT DID.

That's sweet.

I recently watched the Davey Estright case for the first time, about a young boy kidnapped by his abusive father. I really liked Davey's mother, Pam Bauer. She was a battered woman, but the moment he raised his hand to her daughter, she got all the kids out of the house. When he found them, she sent her daughter into hiding with a relative. I just really liked that she put her kids first. Thankfully, she was reunited with her son.

All the lost saviors featured. People who just did the right thing BECAUSE it was the right thing and faded away into their lives:
-The blood donor from Newport News that saved the baby
-The woman who picked the new dad motorcycle guy out of the ditch
-The couple who saved the family in the Mexican Christmas accident
-The man who rescued the baby from the car accident in Waltham, MA
-The two guys with the boat who helped the deputy on a prisoner transport
-The woman who sat accompanied the teenager to the hospital and stayed with her while her grandmother was treated and then died

And several more.

Others:
Troy Carlton and his new wife-His tireless efforts to fine his ex-wife with the support of new new wife were a pretty profound expression of the humor spirit

Gordon Page Sr-He obviously though he was doing the best thing for his son. And he obviously was racked with guilt, despite doing what the doctors considered was best for his son at the time.

Rob Schaffer-He loved her. He tried to save her. His failure obviously ate at his soul.

The family that found the hatbox bay-While I don't believe the "official" story, it's obvious they went to great lengths to get the baby a good home and help out a family member in a time that would have led to shame and pain for the 15 year old biological mother AND the baby.

Suzanne Davis-This woman, in the hands of an obvious pedophile, managed to live as normal a life as possible

Lois Duncan-She pursued her daughter's killers with great drive and passion

Gary Grant, Sr-I felt so bad for this guy, wondering if his son's murder was a message to him

Philip Taylor Kramer-The man was a genius even outside of his association with Iron Butterfly

Henry Freaking Rollins-'nuff said

All the kids looking for their soldier friends from WWII and their soldiers

The family in the Christmas truce dinner during WWII and their soldiers

The two Barbaras looking for their birth mom


I could go on and on

Sorry I bumped this old post but were these stories on UM? I dont remember any of them:confused:

Sorry I bumped this old post but were these stories on UM? I dont remember any of them:confused:

Here are links to them on the UM wiki:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Savior_of_Renee_Wilson

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Tammy_Dotson

(cant find the Mexican Christmas accident segment)

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Savior_of_Samantha_Roberts

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Thomas_Wright

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Savior_of_Wendy_Radcliffe

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Patricia_Carlton

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Gordon_Page_Jr.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Angela_Hammond

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hatbox_Baby

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Suzanne_Davis

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Kait_Arquette

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Gary_Grant_Jr.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Philip_Taylor_Kramer

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Joseph_Cole

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Friend_of_Stephan_Ross (and others)

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Friends_of_Fritz_Vincken (I thihk this is the right one)

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Mother_of_Barbara_Smith_and_Barbara_Ratner

Here are links to them on the UM wiki:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Savior_of_Renee_Wilson

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Tammy_Dotson

(cant find the Mexican Christmas accident segment)

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Savior_of_Samantha_Roberts

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Thomas_Wright

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Savior_of_Wendy_Radcliffe

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Patricia_Carlton

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Gordon_Page_Jr.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Angela_Hammond

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hatbox_Baby

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Suzanne_Davis

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Kait_Arquette

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Gary_Grant_Jr.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Philip_Taylor_Kramer

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Joseph_Cole

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Friend_of_Stephan_Ross (and others)

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Friends_of_Fritz_Vincken (I thihk this is the right one)

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Mother_of_Barbara_Smith_and_Barbara_Ratner

Oh my thank u soo much!! I have some Friday night reading now :)

Oh my thank u soo much!! I have some Friday night reading now :)

You're welcome :)

the private investigator in the Jenny Pratt case


the sheriff who really wanted to find out the identity of Little Miss Panasoffkee


The cop in the Veronica Jefferson case who says that they will still keep looking and still find the killer no matter how much time has passed. To see such optimism, it actually brings a tear to my eye.



the cop who profiled Sacramento Thrill Killer



Neal Hall from the Cindy James segment - I thought he gave very valid reasons on why this is likely a suicide than homicide. I think it is important to stick to the facts and hard evidence in a case.


Gary Grant Jr.'s dad


Charles Horvath's mother


Greg Adams' widow



Dwayne McCorkendale's widow


Larry Dickens mother and sister


Doyle Wheeler- seemed like a very upstanding cop. I totally believed his story about the home invasion as well.


Danny Wheeler - I am 100% serious. I totally could understand the frustration he was feeling and I appreciated on how he didn't mince words on the honest thoughts that he had.


Gord McCallister


Charles Holden - As Forensice Files described him, " A man kind enough to give a ride to a complete stranger". And of course it was extremely sad to see how his kindness was re payed.

For me John Purvis made me cry, seeing him get release after being inside for being wrongly accused. He looked so relieved and happy. The Johnsons with their 'angel' friend they seemed so nice.

1. Henry Rollins
2. Duncan Gilmore
3. Jeff Oberholtzer
4. Joe Jones
5. Tommy Zaino
6. Jay Bible
7. Lynn Cain
8. Paul Freshour
9. Martin Yant
10. Don Devereux

The guy whose wife busted the lowlife who raped & murdered the schoolgirl he had given a lift to using that he was a teacher at her school as a lure out of jail.

State highway patrolman William Byram. He knew that Sheriff Ed Allmaras was wrong that Kathy Bonderson's death was the result of an accident, and he was unmoved by Allmaras's objections. Had it not been for Byram's steadfast pursuit to get to the truth, it is very unlikely that there would have been any further effort beyond the initial autopsy, the case would have been ruled an accident, and it never would have been re-opened.

State highway patrolman William Byram. He knew that Sheriff Ed Allmaras was wrong that Kathy Bonderson's death was the result of an accident, and he was unmoved by Allmaras's objections. Had it not been for Byram's steadfast pursuit to get to the truth, it is very unlikely that there would have been any further effort beyond the initial autopsy, the case would have been ruled an accident, and it never would have been re-opened.

I get a little bit of crap sometimes over how much respect I have for law enforcement... but THIS is a perfect example of a dogged investigator. I have had the pleasure of working with a few of them over the last decade.

Totally agree about Henry Rollins, btw. Would be more than happy to kick back and have a beer with him.

I also really liked Rainboy. I'M SORRY, but his story kills me. I feel like I would be egging him on to "make it rain" for me.... :)

Henry Rollins. I adore him because he's Henry freaking Rollins. In the context of Unsolved Mysteries, I was awed by his passion for justice and the vulnerability he showed in the segment. Here was this hardcore punk singer who is KNOWN for how jacked his body is and how tough his vocals are discussing how it felt to be powerless. Even if it wasn't Henry Freaking Rollins making his statements, I would have been deeply, deeply moved. (Ok, fine, I have a little crush on Henry Rollins, I admit it. What gave it away?)

Troy Carlton's new wife, what a beautiful soul to help her husband search all those years for his ex-wife.

Troy Carlton (It was as if he knew truly, deeply knew and not in a denial sort of way, that Patricia was still alive. He went on Unsolved Mysteries 21 years after she vanished. And although he died without finding out, he was right, she was found alive in 2004.)

Lois Duncan, I loved her books as a tween/teen and I admired the passion she had pursuing her daughter's killers.

The mother in the Christmas in the Ardennes forest segment, I just love how courageous she was and how every mom she was. Come in, come in, I'll feed you all, but put away your guns and behave. We're gonna have a nice Christmas and we're not letting the war ruin dinner, I don't care which side you're on. Now sit down.

The woman who was looking for her hospital friend so she could make her her daughter's godmother like she promised when they were kids. It was just beautiful to watch her go to those lengths to keep a childhood promise.

The unknown fishermen who buried Scott Boorman from the Sarah Joe because they followed the rules of the brotherhood/sisterhood of mariners and did right by him the way they could.

The Viet Nam nurse who found up a beer for the wounded soldier.

Moises Treves, the man who opened the restaurant called Such is Life for searching so hard for his benefactor.

Basically, anyone who searched high and low to thank someone for what may have seemed like a small thing to the person they were searching for as well as all the people they were searching for.
-The men on the bus with the runaway.
-The lady who sat with the girl who's grandmother got hit by a car.
-The folks who got people out of crashed cars or motorcycles and then just went on with their day.
-The woman looking for the blood donor
I know these are lost loves, but these, to me, are the very stuff of life. Small gestures in odd moments that literally change people's lives.

What was the segment Henry Rollins appeared in about?

What was the segment Henry Rollins appeared in about?

His buddy Joe Cole-they got stuck up by a pair of hoodlums as they were going into their house after a night out-seems the robbers were upset that they only had 50 bucks on them, so wanted them to go inside & get more. Cole either tried to make a lunge at them, run or they were just trigger happy & he was shot dead at point blank range, Rollins had made it in the house & escaped out the back with them shooting at him.

Henry Rollins. I adore him because he's Henry freaking Rollins. In the context of Unsolved Mysteries, I was awed by his passion for justice and the vulnerability he showed in the segment. Here was this hardcore punk singer who is KNOWN for how jacked his body is and how tough his vocals are discussing how it felt to be powerless. Even if it wasn't Henry Freaking Rollins making his statements, I would have been deeply, deeply moved. (Ok, fine, I have a little crush on Henry Rollins, I admit it. What gave it away?)

The unknown fishermen who buried Scott Boorman from the Sarah Joe because they followed the rules of the brotherhood/sisterhood of mariners and did right by him the way they could..

These in particular, especially Henry Rollins. Though I suspect you have a crush on him, which I don't...

Also:

Gord McAllister (he seemed like such a sweet man, and it breaks my heart thinking about what he went through)

Duncan Gilmore (he seemed like he'd be a great person to know, and his "Well, yeah" response to "Did you sleep with her" is probably one of the funniest likes on UM to me)

Linda Caciola (I felt so terribly for her, hearing her describe her loss.)

Stephan Ross (After everything he went through, his life being spent trying to help others is so very befitting)

Mitchell Shigemoto and Jim Pearson

Xuan Van Nguyen

I'd like to add at this time Zel Loseff- the mother of Dr. Ted Loseff who refused to accept the police's initial ruling that his death was a suicide and singlehandedly via determined detective work found compelling evidence that he'd been overpowered and murdered which was enough to have them change the ruling to a homicide. She would live to 101 but, sadly, would not find in this world who carried this out (though she had good reason to suspect Dr. Loseff's wife Wilda for at least setting things up but even by the time of the UM story the younger Mrs. Loseff had already died).

In any case, the elder Mrs. Loseff seemed as though she'd have been a fun, interesting person to have had for a friend had one had reason to have known her.

Henry Rollins is definitely the man. Awhile back, my brother was working on a project about heavy metal for his campus radio station and E-mailed Rollins' website to ask him some questions. To his complete shock, Rollins replied to him and answered all his questions within an hour or two.

I always impressed with how Susan Harrison's sons came across on Unsolved Mysteries and in her sister's book about the case. They both seemed like very young men who really loved their mother.

I also would have loved to take that class about cold cases in the Jian Fang segment and hung out with the fedora-wearing police inspector Prentice Sanders.

I'll add Ralph Himmelsbach and the other expert in the D.B. Cooper case (can't remember his name) to the list. Both very interesting to listen to.
Until I saw in this case that Patricia Carlton wasn't found until 2004, I'd have sworn she was found much closer to the time that the original segment aired. Amazing that she was all right, all things considered given her health problems.

These in particular, especially Henry Rollins. Though I suspect you have a crush on him, which I don't...


I have no idea why you would get that impression. :lol:



*scribbles "Mrs Necco Rollins" on her notebook*

*scribbles "Mrs Necco Rollins" on her notebook*


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've got a fourth.......maybe even fifth sense...for such things :happyface

Totally agree about Henry Rollins, btw. Would be more than happy to kick back and have a beer with him.

While I’m sure that he would appreciate the sentiment, good old Hank is 100% straightedge and has never had a single drink in his life. ✌️

IDGAF if this is against the rules or not, I’m posting this:

https://youtu.be/nclqALTaVhk

If anybody watches that and doesn’t love Henry Rollins afterwards, they aren’t human.

While I’m sure that he would appreciate the sentiment, good old Hank is 100% straightedge and has never had a single drink in his life. ✌️

IDGAF if this is against the rules or not, I’m posting this:

https://youtu.be/nclqALTaVhk

If anybody watches that and doesn’t love Henry Rollins afterwards, they aren’t human.

What's REALLY funny is that when I was typing out that sentence about beers with "Mr. Necco," as I will call him from here on out... I had a thought in the back of my head that he didn't drink beers.

That's cool. Neither do I. We can kick back with our respective soft drinks while Necco doodles in her notebook. :)

My immediate first reaction is to say the guy that appeared in Dennis Cole segment and I see his name is Henry Rollins. Don't know anything about the guy but he seemed like someone much like me: honest, sincere and a straight shooter. He even looks like me now minus the tattoos!

A few more people that I really liked:
Patti Eggleston
Terry and Joline Hedlund
Dr. William Roll
Carol Bowman (from the reincarnation segment)
Joe Jones (security guard from Su-Ya Kim segment)

I also have to give another mention to Gord McAllister and Su Young Kim. I want to reach through the TV and hug the both of them as you can literally see their broken hearts: seemed like two very kind men and face unimaginable suffering.

My immediate first reaction is to say the guy that appeared in Dennis Cole segment and I see his name is Henry Rollins. Don't know anything about the guy but he seemed like someone much like me: honest, sincere and a straight shooter. He even looks like me now minus the tattoos!

He was part of a big punk type band called Black Flag who were pretty big in the 1980's, not in the sense of selling records, but had a big cult following. The reason him & Cole were targeted is because record mogul Rick Rubin had pulled up several days earlier in a Rolls-Royce & gone inside to talk business. Word spread that there had to be a lot of money inside the house because of this & Rollins thought they were going to get robbed because of this, he just didn't think they would be home when it happened or that anybody would be shot.

He is actually very untruthful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awY1MRlMKMc

If she hasn't been mentioned, I have to add Matt Flores's wife to this list. She seemed like a very sweet woman.

I'd really like to see Matt's case solved someday...

He is actually very untruthful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awY1MRlMKMc

LOL. I see what you did there.

I'll have to check the UM Crushes thread, but I feel like "Mr. Necco" had a pretty big following on that thread as well. :)

I liked the detective from Gregory barkers segment.
Liked the Page family, and I really liked the Fraser family. They may have been the most intelligent people interviewed.

I actually really enjoyed Bob Baughman the detective who sniffed out Paul Beal.

Was watching UM this afternoon and have submissions from two different Lost Loves segments from the same season 4 episode:

-Barney Dewey
-Sharene Davis and her brother Heath ("...I didn't want anyone to start BAWLIN' or anything.." lol)

Carol Solstad, daughter of Ray Hickingbotham. She desperately wanted to reunite with her father, and I really admire her speech that him leaving is forgotten. She just wanted the pain of not having him to end. Sadly, she passed away apparently never having found him or learning his fate. I also really admired her work to reunite others and obviously not doing it just for the money. She seemed to genuinely take joy in helping other people find lost loves.

Carol Solstad, daughter of Ray Hickingbotham. She desperately wanted to reunite with her father, and I really admire her speech that him leaving is forgotten. She just wanted the pain of not having him to end. Sadly, she passed away apparently never having found him or learning his fate. I also really admired her work to reunite others and obviously not doing it just for the money. She seemed to genuinely take joy in helping other people find lost loves.

Ohhh... she died? :( I didn't know that (or I read it earlier and forgot). That bums me out though because I agree that she seemed like a genuinely good person, and she helped so many others reunite with their loved ones. I felt sorry for her and her son.

Interestingly, I just looked up her obituary and it says she was the daughter of "to the late Ray Hickingbotham..." Obviously he would probably be dead based on his age, but I have to wonder if she ever found out anymore info on him that wasn't public. She said on her UM segment that it would be hard to accept if he willingly left his family. Perhaps she learned more about what really happened to her dad but didn't want to share it with the public (which I can totallly understand).

This was also one of the few military cases where I actually think the person may have been involved in clandestine operations. Most of the others are family members clinging to hope or searching for an explanation where I don't think it was true. However, it's is likely that Ray got involved in some deep level stuff that took him away from his family, willingly or not.

Jayson Artis’ aunt. I liked that she condemned the police for most likely being responsible for his death while still recognizing that her nephew was most likely behaving inappropriately and that the police were within their rights to arrest him.

With so many true crime shows that tend to push a narrative that all crime victims are saints, it’s refreshing to see family members be so honest.

I have to wonder if she ever found out anymore info on him that wasn't public. She said on her UM segment that it would be hard to accept if he willingly left his family. Perhaps she learned more about what really happened to her dad but didn't want to share it with the public (which I can totallly understand).



I really hope this is the case. It's possible that someone who had insider knowledge wanted to reach out and let her know the truth and feared repercussions if that information was disclosed. Of course, anyone with knowledge is likely long gone, but I'd like to think that sometime shortly after the UM airing someone privately gave her information under the condition it be kept private.

I agree that Ray was likely involved in something that was covered up. He was obviously distressed and frustrated before his disappearance, but I don't think this is a case of a man just walking away from his family.

I always wondered about the man offered Carol's mother groceries after visiting her and then was found to not be in official army records. It felt so movie-esque, but I bet this guy knew more than he was telling.

Rob Stone's parents. I felt really bad for his mom at the end when she says that she wants him to know they want him to come home. Rob Stone's dad was very stoic. didn't want to post it in the "host" thread out of respect of the situation, but his voice is bob stack like in a creepy soothing way.

The hotel manager from the Frank Olson segment. I can’t think of his name but he seemed like a funny, old school New Yorker.

John Hanchett from the crew of the Sarah Joe segment seemed like a gentleman.

The engineer from the Kevin Ives-Don Henry segment was a chill guy who seemed like he felt tortured by unintentionally running over the boys.

Troy Carlton, husband of Patricia Carlton

Jon Bon Jovi

Troy Carlton, husband of Patricia Carlton

Agreed. Despite all the time that had passed (him remarrying and having a son) it was so very important to him that Pat be reunited with her family so that she could (his exact quote) have the happiness that she deserved. How could anyone not like this guy?

I still remember the shock when it was announced that Pat was found alive and well in California after 30+ years. But everything about a reunion and how (who) located her was never released to the public. It would have made an amazing story.

Agreed. Despite all the time that had passed (him remarrying and having a son) it was so very important to him that Pat be reunited with her family so that she could (his exact quote) have the happiness that she deserved. How could anyone not like this guy?

I still remember the shock when it was announced that Pat was found alive and well in California after 30+ years. But everything about a reunion and how (who) located her was never released to the public. It would have made an amazing story.

I love Troy. He seemed like a genuine and kind person. Patricia had been missing a couple of decades when they filmed the segment and you could see his emotions were still raw from it. I felt for him, and salute him at the same time

Jim Pearson -the soldier who befriended and helped fellow solider Mitchell Shigemoto when both were serving in Okinawa and subsequently Vietnam. He just seemed like a really nice, compassionate, sincere and warm guy both in the re-enactment and then when we saw him after the two were reunited in real life. For that matter, I also thought that Mitchell Shigemoto and his family seemed like really nice people

Did anyone else like Jerry Diner? I liked how he went on camera to admit being scammed (potentially helping other people avoid being victimized), admitted that he completely fell for it hook, line, and sinker, and didn't pin blame on anyone but himself. He seemed completely honest about giving the "homeless" guy more money to try to be a good person while acknowledging that he had an ulterior motive to get more money than he was giving away :lol: I just loved how open he was and he was kind of a hoot to listen to. I never realized he had a scene in Seinfeld, too.

Carol Solstad, daughter of Ray Hickingbotham. She desperately wanted to reunite with her father, and I really admire her speech that him leaving is forgotten. She just wanted the pain of not having him to end. Sadly, she passed away apparently never having found him or learning his fate. I also really admired her work to reunite others and obviously not doing it just for the money. She seemed to genuinely take joy in helping other people find lost loves.

I believe her work was also partly a way of healing because she knew what it was like to be separated from a loved one. It's just a shame she was never able to do that for herself.

Did anyone else like Jerry Diner? I liked how he went on camera to admit being scammed (potentially helping other people avoid being victimized), admitted that he completely fell for it hook, line, and sinker, and didn't pin blame on anyone but himself. He seemed completely honest about giving the "homeless" guy more money to try to be a good person while acknowledging that he had an ulterior motive to get more money than he was giving away :lol: I just loved how open he was and he was kind of a hoot to listen to. I never realized he had a scene in Seinfeld, too.

Jerry Diner was very relatable. Like you said, he was willing to be vulnerable on national television and that can be ingratiating. I always loved those reenactment scenes at the payphone. "Calm down, man!" :lol:

On a similar note, what about that detective from the Dorothy Allison segment that flatout admitted to wearing a toupee? I kind of loved that. :lol:

Jerry Diner was very relatable. Like you said, he was willing to be vulnerable on national television and that can be ingratiating. I always loved those reenactment scenes at the payphone. "Calm down, man!" :lol:

"No, no, no, I'm afraid of the phone!" :lol:


On a similar note, what about that detective from the Dorothy Allison segment that flatout admitted to wearing a toupee? I kind of loved that. :lol:

That's a good one! He was pretty likeable.

The San Diego witnesses of the man by Angelo Desideri’s car. They weren’t interviewed, but I appreciated that they were willing to say they couldn’t be sure the man was Angelo. I think a lot of eyewitnesses can’t seem to help making the leap from “I think it was the man” to “it was the man”

Brenda Merrill Miller

Imagine being a regular 16 year old kid and then all of the sudden your mother drives you out of town to a shack in the middle of nowhere, tells you to drop out of school and become full time care taker of your 5 younger siblings, ages ranging from 2 to 9. You're forced to hunt wild game just to put food on the table while your mother thrives running a successful restaurant in town...never visits you, never sends you money, never sends you food.

When you're forced out of your shack because of a fire, your mother finds different homes for your siblings. But it is you, not your mother, who follows up on their well being and is mortified over their abysmal living conditions. You confront your mother once again and it results in your being separated from ALL your siblings for a good 30 years.

She is truly an amazing human being. And just the fact that she said she can forgive her mother because her siblings had. She's a better person than me. I'd struggle forgiving someone as toxic as that.

I liked the Megadeth guy. Not so much because of his suspicious nature, but because of his anti smoking message.

Paul Gibson

Dennis Pagenkopp from the "Burrowing Burglars" segment. He was genuinely in awe over how the crimes were executed. Seemed like a nice guy and seemed as fascinated by the robberies as he was determined to catch the culprits.

The nurse who wasn't taking any of Elizabeth Ortiz's bull and insisted on calling the police. Hopefully she was just as curt in real life as the actress playing the part.

"I'm calling the police."
"No, don't call the police, he said he was gonna hurt Jonathan!"
"I'M CALLING THE POLICE."

:lol:

Jim Pearson -the soldier who befriended and helped fellow solider Mitchell Shigemoto when both were serving in Okinawa and subsequently Vietnam. He just seemed like a really nice, compassionate, sincere and warm guy both in the re-enactment and then when we saw him after the two were reunited in real life. For that matter, I also thought that Mitchell Shigemoto and his family seemed like really nice people

definitely, I have to hold back tears every time I see the update on this one. There are a lot of military segments of all types really, but this one and Fritz/Soldiers are my two favorite ones. The love letters segment is also really awesome.

Ellen Morrill --- (From the Leanne, Jim & Tammy siblings lost love case.)

Here you had this young mother of three, just 27 years old, being a constant source of support for her cancer-stricken neighbor Dorris, and she didn't bat an eye when she promised Dorris on her death bed that she would take care of her three children. She says...

"She just asked me to take her kids and I told her I would because I loved her children. They were easy to love. And they got along fine with mine."

She manages to keep all six children happy while raising them in a two-bedroom apartment until social services decides to take Dorris' children away. Even all those years later on the UM segment, Ellen is emotional about this separation and wants desperately for Leanne to be reunited with her siblings.

Truly an amazing woman.

Jay Durham

The brothers and sisters from Oklahoma who were separated as children. They all came across so nice.
https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Billie_and_Joey_Rogers

Darlene Sayrs, Danny Williams' neighbor.

She's the one who shouldn't admit it, but she's nosy and looks the neighbor's visitors over real good.

The moms of the piano students who reported Gladys Owens missing.

Darlene Sayrs, Danny Williams' neighbor.

She's still alive, but very elderly.

Her late daughter was a dentist, and pulled one of my teeth.

Milly, the hiker who was lost in the mountains in Season 8, Episode 21, and Randy Spears, the cowboy who had a vision and found her. You can doubt a lot of psychic phenomena on the show (like "Katie"), but Randy Spears just knew. Call it intuition, call it street smarts, call it a cowboy's familiarity with the land. As they said on the show, "A million dollars of SAR equipment and volunteers and two cowboys with their hats and horses find the lady."

I like the voodoo segment. Where the man, can't recall his name, says something along the lines of, "Dr. do you believe in voodoo?"

The cops in the Blair Adams case. This case calls for it, but I've never seen cops be that honest about the fact that they have no idea what could have happened

The cops in the Blair Adams case. This case calls for it, but I've never seen cops be that honest about the fact that they have no idea what could have happened

I wish J.J. Jones was still our Sheriff. The KCSO could sure use his leadership again.

I wish J.J. Jones was still our Sheriff. The KCSO could sure use his leadership again.

Did he retire?

Did he retire?

Lost reelection in 2022. He's running again in '26 and thankfully the incumbent is term-limited.

Mary Helen Carr and her daughter Sherry Blackman and Mary Helen's lost love WB "Mac" MacDonald. Mac ran out upon meeting baby Sherry for the first time, but that was because he was afraid Mary Helen's mom was still going to have him arrested for statutory rape (she was a minor when they had a romance). You can tell he genuinely feels remorse for what happened. Mary Helen's mom tried to accept him in that segment, but he was still scared of being chased by the police. He should have been stronger, but there were mistakes made on both sides--he and her mom both acted foolishly.

Pam Poteete, the motel housekeeper who was suspicious of Tom Dixon (the taunting bank robber) and recognized him on UM. Sharp-eyed lady.

I always liked Jennifer Pratt; she seemed very bubbly and outgoing. I thought she just chose the wrong guy; absolute travesty what happened to her.

I always liked Jennifer Pratt; she seemed very bubbly and outgoing. I thought she just chose the wrong guy; absolute travesty what happened to her.

It happens all the time. It doesn't matter how old you are. Love is blind. And unlike a lot of people, I don't judge her mom for wanting "the old Jennifer" back. Of course you would! You'd want her healthy and having her whole life ahead of her and able to do anything she wanted. It doesn't mean she loves the post-accident Jennifer any less.

Laurie/Lori - the woman who was abducted and nearly killed by a man she met at a bar. She was very charismatic.

Huey and Joyce Littleton, Pam Ellender's parents. When Huey says that he couldn't cry because he was frozen, i felt that. I've experienced that myself with loss (no murders, thank God, but death from illnesses). There's more than one way to express grief, and we forget that as a society.

I really liked Gene Kiley. He not only seemed like a pretty chill guy (and very savvy) but took it as a point of pride to be able to find missing heirs without charging a finder's fee as opposed to private heir finders. Wonder if he's still alive?

The detective in the ATV murders segment. You could tell he was extremely upset by such a senseless crime and was determined to see it solved.

Duncan Gilmore, who fathered Patsy Summers' daughter. She was reunited with him in a Lost Loves update. Seemed like just a decent, nice guy, but not one the mother's parents would approve of, apparently. She had a fiancé, which reminds me a little of "The Notebook," except with a secret baby in the mix. Heck, I think Nicholas Sparks could have written that plot line if he wanted.

Duncan Gilmore, who fathered Patsy Summers' daughter. She was reunited with him in a Lost Loves update. Seemed like just a decent, nice guy, but not one the mother's parents would approve of, apparently. She had a fiancé, which reminds me a little of "The Notebook," except with a secret baby in the mix. Heck, I think Nicholas Sparks could have written that plot line if he wanted.

I agree, he's definitely one of the best dads from the show. it's a shame that Patsy never told the truth about it and that she kept them apart for all those years.

I liked Paul Cornwell, Lisa Bishop's boyfriend. I don't really know why in particular, he just seemed like an alright guy.

I liked Paul Cornwell, Lisa Bishop's boyfriend. I don't really know why in particular, he just seemed like an alright guy.

Same here. I felt bad for him. He had an instinct that Lisa going on the Freedon with this guy was a bad idea, and unfortunately, he was right.

Same here. I felt bad for him. He had an instinct that Lisa going on the Freedon with this guy was a bad idea, and unfortunately, he was right.

The weird thing is that it could've been the opposite and the bad idea was for the guy and the crew of the Freedon that she went if they were going to postpone the trip and she was the reason they didn't.

I liked Paul Cornwell, Lisa Bishop's boyfriend. I don't really know why in particular, he just seemed like an alright guy.

same, wasn't he a fair amount older than Lisa? maybe he just looked older than he was. I liked that he went looking for her, that had to be tough. I got chills when I heard him say that he thought he was going to encounter Florian at any moment. those emotions were raw and I can only imagine what that felt like.

I said it before, but Fritz from the Fritz and the soldiers segment. that is my favorite segment and he is probably the most inspirational person that I can recall from the show. I went to the east of Belgium and did a battle of the bulge tour in the Ardennes because of that segment. I've always thought that it is the perfect UM segment. It has the element of darkness with suspense, but ends with a happy story of how the human spirit can overcome war. Hitler tried to prevent that very thing from happening after British and German soldiers played football during a WWI Christmas. but the human spirit of kindness is stronger than war.

I said it before, but Fritz from the Fritz and the soldiers segment. that is my favorite segment and he is probably the most inspirational person that I can recall from the show. I went to the east of Belgium and did a battle of the bulge tour in the Ardennes because of that segment. I've always thought that it is the perfect UM segment. It has the element of darkness with suspense, but ends with a happy story of how the human spirit can overcome war. Hitler tried to prevent that very thing from happening after British and German soldiers played football during a WWI Christmas. but the human spirit of kindness is stronger than war.

Honestly one of my favorites ever, this segment! I was just thinking about it the other day. I believe a poster on here mentioned that he knew Fritz due to frequenting his bakery in Hawaii and also reiterated what a kind man he was. I absolutely love this story and am glad UM chose to profile it.

I said it before, but Fritz from the Fritz and the soldiers segment. that is my favorite segment and he is probably the most inspirational person that I can recall from the show. I went to the east of Belgium and did a battle of the bulge tour in the Ardennes because of that segment. I've always thought that it is the perfect UM segment. It has the element of darkness with suspense, but ends with a happy story of how the human spirit can overcome war. Hitler tried to prevent that very thing from happening after British and German soldiers played football during a WWI Christmas. but the human spirit of kindness is stronger than war.

One of my all-time favorites too!

Honestly one of my favorites ever, this segment! I was just thinking about it the other day. I believe a poster on here mentioned that he knew Fritz due to frequenting his bakery in Hawaii and also reiterated what a kind man he was. I absolutely love this story and am glad UM chose to profile it.

That is great. It would have been incredible to meet him and hear his story. When I was in Belgium I was so moved by my visit that I almost had the courage to reach out to one of Fritz’s family members online. I chickened out.

Cathy Porter in the Charles Mule segment.

Jeff Oberholzer in the Orange Sock Murders. You felt so bad for the guy.

Jeff Oberholzer in the Orange Sock Murders. You felt so bad for the guy.

definitely. the first time that I saw the segment I remember leaning towards him being guilty. but as time went on, I was less sure either way. thankfully he got cleared several years later. sadly, IIRC the killer got stuck in the snow that night and was helped by a law enforcement officer.

Cathy Porter in the Charles Mule segment.

Me too!

definitely. the first time that I saw the segment I remember leaning towards him being guilty. but as time went on, I was less sure either way. thankfully he got cleared several years later. sadly, IIRC the killer got stuck in the snow that night and was helped by a law enforcement officer.

He was no Mark Nichols, Paul Pollis, or Jule Caylor!

Norman Ladner's parents. His mother especially seemed like such a nice, sweet soul. I felt so bad for her. Definitely someone you wanted to give a hug to.

Gord McAllister from the Blind River murders. The way he talked about his wife, you can tell he is just lonely. Your heart broke for him.

I like Lauria Bible's parents a lot too. Good folk, just had their daughter in the wrong place at the wrong time with a really dysfunctional family that night.

I felt bad for Pat Conway. He did re-marry, and lived until 2013, but that's 27 years of wondering what in the world happened to his wife in her final minutes.

He was no Mark Nichols, Paul Pollis, or Jule Caylor!

ah Jule Caylor, the spouse I always forget about. None of those 3 are worthy of this thread to say the least. but Pollis does like to keep a clean house. nothing wrong with that, I think.