I'm just wondering, because to me all Seinfeld episodes seem like comedy masterpieces. But is there even one episode that could be considered sub-par? It feels blasphemous to even suggest the possibility.

The final one in my opinion was a huge disappointment.

I'm sure there's a couple of others towards the end, but can't think of them at the moment.

I really didn't like the one where Jerry bought his dad a watch or something like that. Was kind of boring.

plenty were over the top wacky and won't stand the test of time.

I notice that the episodes of the last 2 seasons (after Larry David left the show) had a slightly different tone and were sometimes more wacky. As I've mentioned before, Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David working together and writing episodes could be compared to Paul MCartney and John Lennon. They were the ideal partnership with different sensibilities, which gave the show its brilliance. Once Larry David was out of the equation, Jerry still managed to do a great job, but the series lost something, in my opinion.

One wacky episode that comes to mind has at one point George sleeping inside Jerry's cupboards. (I think that same episode is also the one where Kramer is renting out the drawers of his dresser for the night to Japanese businessmen) I doubt such a wacky over-the-top moment would have happened when Larry David was onboard. Larry liked to keep a certain realism in the show.

I notice that the episodes of the last 2 seasons (after Larry David left the show) had a slightly different tone and were sometimes more wacky. As I've mentioned before, Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David working together and writing episodes could be compared to Paul MCartney and John Lennon. They were the ideal partnership with different sensibilities, which gave the show its brilliance. Once Larry David was out of the equation, Jerry still managed to do a great job but the series lost something, in my opinion.

One wacky episode that comes to mind has at one point George sleeping inside Jerry's cupboards. (I think that same episode is also the one where Kramer is renting out the drawers of his dresser for the night to Japanese businessmen) I doubt such a wacky over-the-top moment would have happened when Larry David was onboard. Larry liked to keep a certain realism in the show.

I notice that the episodes of the last 2 seasons (after Larry David left the show) had a slightly different tone and were sometimes more wacky. As I've mentioned before, Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David working together and writing episodes could be compared to Paul MCartney and John Lennon. They were the ideal partnership with different sensibilities, which gave the show its brilliance. Once Larry David was out of the equation, Jerry still managed to do a great job, but the series lost something, in my opinion.

One wacky episode that comes to mind has at one point George sleeping inside Jerry's cupboards. (I think that same episode is also the one where Kramer is renting out the drawers of his dresser for the night to Japanese businessmen) I doubt such a wacky over-the-top moment would have happened when Larry David was onboard. Larry liked to keep a certain realism in the show.


Exactly - for a show "about nothing" it was like they were stretching for scripts and funny moments so they went the way of slapstick and stupid situations more. I actually stopped watching faithfully around that time and wasn't bothered a bit when Jerry announced he was going to shut it down. Obviously he could see it.

You don't want your sitcom to go the way Happy Days did! :eek:

Oh man... that's a tough one. Usually if I see one that I'm not liking,I always find something in it that makes me laugh and "saves" the episode. I've mentioned this one before, but the one episode that comes to mind is "The Opera" for instance. I didn't like that one at all.... until Jerry starts singing the Looney Tunes theme song!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Andrea

Oh man... that's a tough one. Usually if I see one that I'm not liking,I always find something in it that makes me laugh and "saves" the episode. I've mentioned this one before, but the one episode that comes to mind is "The Opera" for instance. I didn't like that one at all.... until Jerry starts singing the Looney Tunes theme song!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Andrea

My ex-girlfriend didn't like any episode with Crazy Joe Davola in it. And she especially didn't like "The Opera". I think the reason for this is that this kind of dark humor involving a stalker who also happens to be a violent psychopath is a little bit too creepy for some, and going a bit too far. That scene with Joe Davola and Elaine in his apartment is too unsettling (when he's stopping her from leaving and making subtle death threats) to be very funny, in my opinion.

I don't think there are bad episodes necessarily but just some that aren't as funny or good as others. They just don't stand up to the best episodes so they can therefore be considered bad but actually if you were to compare a "bad" Seinfeld episode and a good episode of some other shows there would no difference it's just that Seinfeld's great episodes were so much greater than anything that it makes the regular episodes seem awful when in fact they're pretty decent.

Some (episodes) are more memorable, but in my experience, none are bad. Seinfeld, like M*A*S*H and All in the Family, for example, have no such thing as a bad episode. I will always find something funny or entertaining in them.

I don't think there are bad episodes necessarily but just some that aren't as funny or good as others. They just don't stand up to the best episodes so they can therefore be considered bad but actually if you were to compare a "bad" Seinfeld episode and a good episode of some other shows there would no difference it's just that Seinfeld's great episodes were so much greater than anything that it makes the regular episodes seem awful when in fact they're pretty decent.

That's a very good point. The worst Seinfeld episode is still better than most shows' best episodes. That says a lot about how brilliant Seinfeld was.

I was thinking the other day about sitcoms that I used to love while growing up that are today all but forgotten. ("Murphy Brown", "Blossom", "Major Dad", "227", "Night Court", "Too Close For Comfort", etc...) None of these series have really withstood the test of time, but Seinfeld did and became a timeless classic, right up there with "I Love Lucy", "Mary Tyler Moore Show", and "All In The Family".
In fact the only reason we remember "Blossom" and "Murphy Brown" at all, IMO, is because they were mentioned on Seinfeld. :lol:

By the way, even the heavy-weight that was airing on NBC when Seinfeld aired, "Cheers", doesn't seem to have withstood the test of time so well either. I don't know of anyone that actually owns the "Cheers" DVDs.

I think the last season was rather creatively bankrupt. The one where Jerry buys the car from Puddy, and the infamous backward episode were IMO the worst.

I agree that no other sitcom has stood the test of time like Seinfeld!! Even 10-15 years later, they're still relevant and hilarious!

I agree that no other sitcom has stood the test of time like Seinfeld!! Even 10-15 years later, they're still relevant and hilarious!

I guess it depends on your age to say "no other sitcom". I feel that way about Dick Van Dyke - still relevant and still funny and smart writing. I do agree that Seinfeld is up there in the top 5, but wouldn't say there hasn't been others that are classics like it. Granted, Seinfeld ran longer than DVD as well.

I really don't care for the series finale episodes.

A lot of people seem to have been disappointed by that last episode. Personally I don't mind it----I think the idea is good, and Jackie Chiles is very funny.

A lot of people seem to have been disappointed by that last episode. Personally I don't mind it----I think the idea is good, and Jackie Chiles is very funny.
Every time Jackie Chiles appeared was funny. :lol:

Jackie was always trying to sue to make some money, that made him so funny.

In my opinion, no, there is no such thing as a bad Seinfeld episode. Even at its worst it will always make me laugh. Same's true for me of M*A*S*H*, Wings, Barney Miller, All in the Family, Beverly Hillbillies--to mention several.

To be honest with you, I love almost all the episodes and have seen them many times. However, when Seinfeld originally aired, I stopped watching the show after the episode where Jerry and Elaine get back together. It's the one where they make the agreement to just hook up and Elaine can't handle the arrangement.

The ending was SO sappy that I just thought the show was going to devolve into stupid relationship humor that was done on so many other sitcoms. I didn't realize that they were only going to be together for that one show. I started watching again after "The Contest" won the Emmy and I was pleasantly surprised by the show about nothing. I own all the episodes and watch often!:wave:

The backwards episode isn't one of my favorites, but you gotta admit, it's clever. I've never seen that done on any other show. And I love how they made it easy to follow. Funny how the mind works, because by the end of the show, you're like "Oh so that's why that was said, etc etc" Has anyone watched this episode "foreword" on the DVD set? I should try it at least once. I actually don't like this episode much at all, so it may not be as good watching it "foreword".

I was an early "Seinfeld" fan (I even watched "The Seinfeld Chronicles" pilot episode in summer 1989) but I think the show was pretty much hit-or-miss after the first three or four seasons. For me, very few of the episodes in the later seasons are on the "must see" level. But even at it's looniest and wackiest, the show never really went "bad".

I'm just wondering, because to me all Seinfeld episodes seem like comedy masterpieces. But is there even one episode that could be considered sub-par? It feels blasphemous to even suggest the possibility.

There was an early episode where Jerry and Elaine went to Florida to stay with Jerry's Parents. I've heard some say they don't like this episode because George and Kramer did not appear at all, just Jerry, Elaine, Morty and Helen. But I think this is one of Julia Louis-Dreyfuss' greatest scenes when she met Stella, and she started saying S-T-E-L-L-A, S-T-E-L-L-A!:lol: :lol:

The closest the show came to having a 'bad' episode IMO was "The Cartoon" from Season 9. The only reason being the Sally Weaver character started getting very annoying in that episode.

Let's see... I wasn't crazy about

"The Dog".
"The Opera"
"The Bris"
"The Barber"
"The Pool Guy"
"The Junk Mail"

Every Seinfeld episode has at least something in it that was funny (even if it's just a couple of lines here and there), but these eps are probably my least favorite ones.

I didn't like "The Hamptons" The only time I felt sorry for George, because

1 every body saw his girl topless but him.

2 Jerry's girl tells her about about his "Shrinkage"

3 His girl leaves when she finds out about his "Shrinkage"

If that happened to me, I would have been really upset

Jackie was always trying to sue to make some money, that made him so funny.

...and it was always funnier because, with Kramer, he always failed! :lol:

Yes, there's NO QUESTION that there are indeed SEVERAL bad Sienfeld episodes. Generally speaking; those that take place at his parents retirement home in Florida were awful, unfunny and boring and anything that had "Uncle Leo" in it.

The backwards episode is absolutely abysmal. Can't even sit through the whole thing.

I have come to really like the final episode over the years. They were just trying to show how really self centered the characters were. They proved it with all the past guests telling how they were treated by the four. Still this is my favorite sitcom.

No there was never a bad seinfeld episode.I loved every single one of them.That show was hillarious beyond words.I still watch it all the time.It's another show that i didn't really get into until sindication.But now it's one of my top 10 all time.

No there was never a bad seinfeld episode.I loved every single one of them.That show was hillarious beyond words.I still watch it all the time.It's another show that i didn't really get into until sindication.But now it's one of my top 10 all time.

I completely agree and to be honest, sometimes shows are even better when you find them in syndication b/c usually they are shown multiple times a day and I think it's easier to get into them rather than waiting for weeks and weeks. Although I wish I had watched Frasier in prime time, I'm glad I found it in syndication b/c I was able to watch the entire series in mere months. Some of those eps were very "cliff-hangery" and I don't think I could have handled the suspense!

Sorry to change the subject a bit. But I do love that Seinfeld is still shown. I've seen eps that I've seen at least 10 times before and I still laugh so hard I cry!

I completely agree and to be honest, sometimes shows are even better when you find them in syndication b/c usually they are shown multiple times a day and I think it's easier to get into them rather than waiting for weeks and weeks. Although I wish I had watched Frasier in prime time, I'm glad I found it in syndication b/c I was able to watch the entire series in mere months. Some of those eps were very "cliff-hangery" and I don't think I could have handled the suspense!

Sorry to change the subject a bit. But I do love that Seinfeld is still shown. I've seen eps that I've seen at least 10 times before and I still laugh so hard I cry!



Yeah,it's good no matter how many times you see it.It's just like the first time.Fraiser was a great show too.Kelsey Grammar one of the only sitcom actors with that much success 22 years as the same charecthor.