I happen to think that Gretchen is not attractive at all. Even my hubby says she's ugly. I wouldn't go that far, but I don't think she is pretty.

She's not that bad - put it this way, Danny didn't grow up to be a looker himself - he's lucky he got her in the first place - and then for her to stand behind him for as long as she did was even more amazing.

He blew it badly losing her.

She's not that bad - put it this way, Danny didn't grow up to be a looker himself - he's lucky he got her in the first place - and then for her to stand behind him for as long as she did was even more amazing.

He blew it badly losing her.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Gretchen did look so much prettier (she had very long, beautiful dark hair) several years back before she had "work" done

Gretchen performs in her own band in the LA area, she is stunning in real life; a very beautiful woman.

I happen to think that Gretchen is not attractive at all. Even my hubby says she's ugly. I wouldn't go that far, but I don't think she is pretty.

Can't believe that anyone would start a conversation like this.

It is so ignorant and meaningless.

You cannot prove who is and who isn't good looking . It is unscientific.

It is all a matter of opinion.

Furthermore it is testament to the fact that women are always being sized up or down according to their appearances. Like what is the big deal if anyone is "ugly" in your prejudiced little mind?
This is supposed to be the 21st century