well, basically to bring a discussion from another long-bumped up thread here. I feel like people get so morally upset over sexuality, while treating graphic violence as if it's acceptable. A perfect recent example is the way that "Zach And Miri Make A Porno" had to have the last three words of the title removed from network commercial ads and was even banned in Utah. Yet... somehow the moral outcry against SAW V was mute compared to it. Never mind that Zach And Miri is a cute, albeit adult, comedy and SAW is a sadistic bloody horror franchise. But people are fine with their adolescent watching SAW, and I think it's bs because violence is just as, if not more, offensive than sex.

I want to hear others opinions

it's funny how most people seem to think that while it's very bad for children to witness violence in person, there's a difference between that and having them see it on TV. there isn't. people are always saying "oh, there aren't any kids who would become violent just because they watch violent shows" but that simply goes against all that's been proven. it's not likely that a youngster is going to watch a comical death scene in a cartoon and then go out on a mass killing spree, but with most children, watching a lot of violent shows and listening to violent music regularly will give them more aggressive instincts. that's just reality.

i should also add that i strongly oppose lawsuits against tv networks for the effects their shows have on children who shouldn't have been watching them. while i'm all for some moderate censorship, it's ultimately the parent's responsibility to babysit, not the media's.

i should also add that i strongly oppose lawsuits against tv networks for the effects their shows have on children who shouldn't have been watching them. while i'm all for some moderate censorship, it's ultimately the parent's responsibility to babysit, not the media's.
I agree, that gets on my last nerve. They make TV Guides more descriptive than ever as to what's in programming these days, and there's also something useful called the V-Chip. If a parent finds it that inappropriate, just block it. There's no excuse in this day and age. And I agree that most of the mature shows air when impressionable kids should be in the bed.

The mature audiences who want to watch mature programming shouldn't have to suffer by having their favorite shows be neutered because there are some parents who don't know how to monitor their children's TV watching. It's not the FCC's job to coddle and raise America's kids.

And I think violence is more apt to scar someone. For example, I don't see how seeing someone getting shot to death can be less scarring than seeing someone's bare ass. I just don't get it.

But you know what I do if I see violence that offends ME too much? Do I bitch to the FCC? No. I pick up something called the remote control and change the channel or turn the set off. I hate how prudish this country can be.

i think both are offensive. i base good tv/movies on character development and plot. to me excessive violence and sex is just an attempt to cover lousy writing or is for filler in a story with no substance to it. i'm not a prude and there are some cases where it can be done tastefully if you will if it truly is integral to the story but violence and sex just for the sake of violence and sex is a way of "dumbing down" the audience to me and thats what makes it offensive.

also there is the factor of how tv affects our youth that is worrisome. i mean look at tween girls today, a great number of them dress like streetwalkers with skimpy clothes and too much makeup for their immature ages. and why is that? bratz maybe? the star of zoe101 now a teenage mom? and all those school shootings - violent video games/movies perhaps? its not just a coincidence that these things are happening. to say kids aren't influenced by what they're watching is ignorant. think about it, is there really a family hour on tv anymore?

I'm having a hard time voting on this one because I dunno, I do like my sex big time. I like a little sexuality in with my talent when I watch a TV show or movie. I enjoy sleazy sex jokes and that's why I liked Night Court in the first place.

Violence isn't too bad because I like action movies, but horror movies could tone it down a bit. I Know Who Killed Me is a good example of a horror movie taking it too far, I had to stop it half way through. I have nothing wrong with the Gun Kata stuff and I like myself a little bit of intense posing with guns.

I would have to say violence. I don' mind sex at all. Though, you have to accept it. They both happen on tv and real life. Don't mean to preach but that's how I feel.

You should include profanity in the poll, too. I'm sick of "bad" words being blocked out as if a simple word can do so much harm, but sex and violence is perfectly fine. :rolleyes:

Violence is so much more offensive to me than sex. I will not watch horror movies, crime shows, and anything else that portrays violence. I won't read murder mysteries, thirllers, or other books that portray violence.

It makes me laugh how people get so worked up over Janet Jackson exposing herself on live TV or someone swearing, but they say nothing about people harming or killing others in the name of "entertainment".

I would have to say violence. I don' mind sex at all. Though, you have to accept it. They both happen on tv and real life. Don't mean to preach but that's how I feel.
I know, they both happen in real life. But it seems funny that the moral majority goes after a harmless (well, intended for adults) comedy where Seth Rogen makes a porn when strapped for cash, but a movie franchise where people have to perform self-mutilation to survive is perfectly fine because it's only gore, not sex.

Not all us conservative Christians think that way. I'll watch that Seth Rogan movie before I watch any of those awful horror movies.

I don't find sex in the media offensive. Although I sometimes wish that it would be portrayed in a more romantic manner more often than it seems to be (to be fair, though, I haven't really paid attention.)

For instance, pornography is something that is not my kind of thing, and I think because it deviates from how I tend to look at sexual union - I have quite romanticised views of sex as a loving, emotional act and pornography doesn't seem to reflect that very much. I can completely see why people enjoy watching it though.

Sex is fine by me, I rather enjoy it ;)

Violence on the other hand seems to get worse and worse everyday and it's starting to get old. :rolleyes:

Violence on the other hand seems to get worse and worse everyday and it's starting to get old. :rolleyes:

that is true. I think it's revolting that they "have" to remake the horror classics so they can compete with the SAW's and Hostel's. One of the reasons Halloween worked so well is because it played on suspence over gore, and Zombie completely missed that memo and made a lame SAW influenced remake. I am sure even Dead Alive will be remade in due time because the original isn't quite bloody enough :lol:

I think sex and profanity should be censored the most. I don't mind violence
as much as the other two.

I think sex and profanity should be censored the most. I don't mind violence
as much as the other two.
you think a torture scene where body parts are severed is more appropriate for a childs eyes than nudity?

you think a torture scene where body parts are severed is more appropriate for a childs eyes than nudity?

I did not say that, and I do not appreciate someone putting words in my
mouth. Of course I think it is inappropriate for children but what I was
refering to the violence that takes place in westerns and war movies. How
did torture enter into this picture?

Sex is a natural part of life... Violence is not.

Personally, I don't find either offensive. But if they're done in a pretty tasteless manner, then yeah, I won't like it. I just stay away from programming and movies with a lot of violence in it.

I did not say that, and I do not appreciate someone putting words in my
mouth. Of course I think it is inappropriate for children but what I was
refering to the violence that takes place in westerns and war movies. How
did torture enter into this picture?
most of the horror movies out now are all about torture and gore. People are morally opposed to "Zach And Miri Make A Porno" but there's nobody picketing "SAW V". Seriously dude, you need to lighten up a bit.

When wrongly used, both can be offensive. Sex in a loving, married context is not only not offensive, it is a beautiful gift of God.

As for violence, it is always unfortunate, but not necessarily always offensive or immoral, for example, its appropriate use in law enforcement or the military--sometimes it's necessary. A war movie, though violent, doesn't necessarily offend me, but gratuitous scenes of violence, such as murder or torture in other types of movies, disturb me greatly.

(All this is just my personal opinion)

most of the horror movies out now are all about torture and gore. People are morally opposed to "Zach And Miri Make A Porno" but there's nobody picketing "SAW V". Seriously dude, you need to lighten up a bit.


I see your point on the movies, but John, I think you need to lighten up a bit. He was only giving his opinion.

yooch i wholeheartedly agree. if its a tender love scene, although nothing explicit, between characters in love then i don't mind. for instance, on a soap i don't mind an "afterward" scene when they're snuggled and just the shoulders up are showing, to me thats tasteful. however i don't need to see the whole "bump & grind" scenario.

as what you pointed out with violence if its a movie about war or something along those lines i don't mind it.

with war movies, it really depends. There were scenes in Saving Private Ryan for instance that I don't think someone under 13-14 should see because it'd likely give them nightmares. Of course, the realistic thing is that war is hell, but I still think certain scenes in certain films are inappropriate for people under a certain age, much like nude scenes or torture scenes.

I think violence is definitely worse. I'd let my kid watch a porno before I'd let him watch say, a beheading, or something similar. Atleast from my own experience, the emotional and physical scars I've received from violence in one form or another, have been far more damaging in my life.

I think violence is definitely worse. I'd let my kid watch a porno before I'd let him watch say, a beheading, or something similar. Atleast from my own experience, the emotional and physical scars I've received from violence in one form or another, have been far more damaging in my life.
A part that is sick about it, and with emotional scars. Tho I was a few years too young at the time, I've heard that a lot of grade schools had it mandatory that the kids watched "The Day After" when it aired in the early 1980's. I mean, this movie had a nuclear explosion scene that is more intense, disturbing and frightening and scarring than anything you'll ever seen in a porno, but yet kids "had" to watch it for a school assignment, yet you know hell would freeze over because they had an assignment to watch Debbie Does Dallas or a porn that was popular back then, which all in all would probably be less nightmare-inducing that the scene in The Day After where the bombs go off. :rolleyes:

A part that is sick about it, and with emotional scars. Tho I was a few years too young at the time, I've heard that a lot of grade schools had it mandatory that the kids watched "The Day After" when it aired in the early 1980's. I mean, this movie had a nuclear explosion scene that is more intense, disturbing and frightening and scarring than anything you'll ever seen in a porno, but yet kids "had" to watch it for a school assignment, yet you know hell would freeze over because they had an assignment to watch Debbie Does Dallas or a porn that was popular back then, which all in all would probably be less nightmare-inducing that the scene in The Day After where the bombs go off. :rolleyes:

Yeah, there's definitely a double standard there that I never really understood. Although, I saw some stuff in sex education class that also surprised me quite a bit. :lol: I remember in the 7th grade, it was mandatory that we watch Schindler's List. One girl ran out of the room crying. I felt so sorry for the poor thing. I personally don't think anything like that should be mandatory viewing at such a young age. While some people are more like 21 when they're actually 15, others are more like 10 years old developmentally. Kids should be allowed to grow at there own pace.

Sex. I'd watch all the violence in the world over one second of sex. Sex is used more gratuitously and unnecessarily that violence, imo.

Sex bothers me a lot more than violence on TV. Sadly, some violence (like in the news) can't be helped, but the sex part can be toned down. In some ways, I think sex has taken over from violence in movies and TV shows-and that's just sad.

Andrea

Violence is so much more offensive to me than sex. I will not watch horror movies, crime shows, and anything else that portrays violence. I won't read murder mysteries, thirllers, or other books that portray violence.

It makes me laugh how people get so worked up over Janet Jackson exposing herself on live TV or someone swearing, but they say nothing about people harming or killing others in the name of "entertainment".

Me too, but when viol. is combined with sex it is ESP SCARY and REVOLTING- sort of like a cascade effect of 1+1 equalling 3.

MusicJunkie, I've got the impression that you seem opposed to violence being used in the media - if that's true, may I ask why you feel that way? I don't enjoy watching films/TV with a lot of violence but I'm not opposed to it being there.

I'm not opposed to sex either. On that note, I'd like to ask your opinion of sex being "cheapened" in the media. If sex is portrayed in a romantic way then I enjoy it, but as I said in another post, stuff like pornography doesn't do anything for me.

MusicJunkie, I've got the impression that you seem opposed to violence being used in the media - if that's true, may I ask why you feel that way? I don't enjoy watching films/TV with a lot of violence but I'm not opposed to it being there.

I'm not opposed to sex either. On that note, I'd like to ask your opinion of sex being "cheapened" in the media. If sex is portrayed in a romantic way then I enjoy it, but as I said in another post, stuff like pornography doesn't do anything for me.
personally, I'm no fan of porn. Mainly because I have standards and expect a decent plot when I watch something :lol:

But to me, I feel like everyone gets so morally opposed and outspoken whenever something sexual is released because "we have to protect the children", yet those same people say nothing over violence. Just look at the FCC over Janet Jackson, whereas shows like CSI and the sort which are loaded with graphic violence always gets off the hook.

Hell, two of my favorite TV series, Buffy and Supernatural are both quite violent. But I feel like everyone is so up in arms about shielding children away from anything to do with sex because you have to protect their innocence, but think nothing about letting them watch SAW, Cabin Fever, Hostel or any other garbage horror movie that plays up the torture/sadism angle instead of scares just because the directors want to avoid a PG-13 rating.

Those horror movies are called "torture porn", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_porn#.22Torture_porn.22 , and IMO they are far more offensive and disturbing than movies like Zach And Miri Make A Porno which incites church groups to picket the theaters because a movie about two twenty-somethings resorting to porn to make a movie in the same cineplex as High School Musical III is reprehensible, but yet those people don't care if SAW 5 plays. THAT'S why I am so tired of the double standard because this sadistic garbage out there that calls itself "horror" today is far more graphic, disturbing and mentally scarring than nudity.

personally, I'm no fan of porn. Mainly because I have standards and expect a decent plot when I watch something :lol:



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rofl. I am serious. One of my friends showed me a gay porn years ago when I was like 20-21 and I spent the whole time laughing at how horrible the acting and plot was and how unrealistic that every single mechanic at the car repair shop would be having orgies like that. :lol: (basically it was a movie about some guy whose car breaks down, takes it to a shop and then everyone starts having sex. How did the Academy overlook this?)

Porn is so tacky and horribly written/acted and I fail to see how anyone finds it erotic. Now a love story with sex scenes is totally different to me, but porn is just smut for the point of being smut.

personally, I'm no fan of porn. Mainly because I have standards and expect a decent plot when I watch something :lol:

I agree, I've never been a fan of porn myself. Doing it is one thing, but watching people do it, has never seemed very interesting to me. My ex girlfriend owns her own adult store, and so I could have had access to all the porn and whatever else I wanted, but I can't recall a single time in the year we were together, where I even watched a porno. I find watching porn to be a small step above watching grass grow. Well.....maybe I'm getting a bit carried away with that last sentance, but it's definitely overrated.