View Full Version : O.J. Simpson... Guilty on all charges...


Fleet
10-04-2008, 02:03 AM
Wow... just minutes ago, O.J. Simpson was found guilty on ALL charges.

Zoneboy
10-04-2008, 02:06 AM
Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432663,00.html)

LAS VEGAS — Jurors in the O.J. Simpson trial reached a verdict Friday after working into the night, deliberating the fate of the former football star and a co-defendant accused of robbing two sports memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a casino hotel room.

"We have a verdict," said Michael Sommermeyer, spokesman for the Clark County District Court. He said it would be read after all the defendants, lawyers and prosecutors arrived at the court.

The jury reached a decision after deliberating for more than 13 hours.

Simpson, 61, and a golfing buddy, Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, each face five years to life in prison if convicted of kidnapping, or mandatory prison time if convicted of armed robbery. They've pleaded not guilty to 12 charges, including conspiracy, coercion and assault with a deadly weapon.

Deliberations began 13 years to the day after Simpson was acquitted of killing his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald Goldman, in Los Angeles.

The jury sent one note to the judge around 3 p.m. with what the court spokesman called a "procedural question."

Judge Jackie Glass responded with instructions to look at documents they had already been given, Sommermeyer said.

The jury of nine women and three men heard 12 days of testimony, capped by prosecutors' arguments Thursday that the Las Vegas case had its roots in the 1994 slayings.

Prosecutors alleged Simpson planned — and Stewart helped carry out — a plot to retrieve personal items that Simpson lost after squirreling them away to avoid turning them over to Goldman's family to satisfy part of a $33.5 million civil wrongful death judgment levied in 1997 by a California court.

Four men who accompanied Simpson, Stewart and a middle man to the Palace Station casino hotel for the Sept. 13, 2007, confrontation later pleaded guilty and testified for the prosecution. Thomas Riccio, the man who arranged and secretly recorded the meeting, testified under immunity from prosecution.

Simpson's lawyer, Yale Galanter, told the jury the prosecution didn't prove Simpson was guilty in the criminal case that he said "has taken on a life of its own because of Mr. Simpson's involvement."

"Every cooperator, every person who had a gun, every person who had an ulterior motive, every person who signed a book deal, every person who got paid money — the police, the district attorney's office, is only interested in one thing: Mr. Simpson," Galanter said.

Stewart's lawyer, Brent Bryson, presented his client as the trial's forgotten man.

Since Sept. 15, the jury heard 22 often colorful witnesses — including seven of the nine people who were in the cramped hotel room. They listened to numerous replays of secret recordings made before, during and after the alleged robbery.

Neither Simpson nor Stewart testified, and jurors were instructed not to consider that when judging the case.

Glass kept a tight rein on the proceedings and rejected several mistrial motions. She read 41 legal instructions to the jurors and six alternates before the panel heard closing arguments

Wreckless
10-04-2008, 02:06 AM
That Las Vegas trial is still going on? What was his punishment?

Big C
10-04-2008, 02:08 AM
A lot of people probably will think that this is karma after what happened in 1995

Zoneboy
10-04-2008, 02:09 AM
That Las Vegas trial is still going on? What was his punishment?

He won't be sentenced for at least another 30-45 days and will most likely be remanded in custody until then.

Fleet
10-04-2008, 02:09 AM
That Las Vegas trial is still going on? What was his punishment?
Don't know yet. The judge, I suppose, will get to that. He could get up to life in prison. I don't think he will get that. My wild guess would be 10-20 years. The deliberations took 13 hours.

Zoneboy
10-04-2008, 02:11 AM
A lot of people probably will think that this is karma after what happened in 1995

Which of course also happened on October 3rd.

Fleet
10-04-2008, 02:13 AM
13 hours of deliberations and 13 years after the murder trial... 13 is definitely not O.J.'s lucky number!

I think what did him in were the people who agreed to testify against him.

Wreckless
10-04-2008, 02:16 AM
Wow, 10-20 years. That's awesome. Finally lock this nutbag behind bars.

Wreckless
10-04-2008, 02:17 AM
Does everybody agree that karma is O.J.'s biggest bitch...all the bad and messed up sh*t you do, WILL come back to you. and good, that guy is ill minded and needs to be stopped.

Fleet
10-04-2008, 02:32 AM
I heard on the radio when he will be sentenced... I think it was Dec. 5th.

Brent88
10-04-2008, 02:45 AM
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good riddance!

Fleet
10-04-2008, 02:47 AM
Something I read on the 'Net:
O.J. now means "Orange Jumpsuit." :D

Wreckless
10-04-2008, 02:49 AM
Yes, IMO he was definitely guilty in 1994 as well but opinions are opinions...

Wreckless
10-04-2008, 02:49 AM
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good riddance!

Amen. Bye O.J.

Zoneboy
10-04-2008, 02:59 AM
Something I read on the 'Net:
O.J. now means "Orange Jumpsuit." :D

:lol: That and Old Jailbird. :lol:

Wreckless
10-04-2008, 03:02 AM
What about, Odd Jabroney :lol: :lol: yeah I don't know, I like making up acronyms for O.J.'s name lol.

Fleet
10-04-2008, 03:07 AM
:lol: That and Old Jailbird. :lol:
He WILL be old when he gets out of jail, if he ever gets out! He is currently 61 years old.
They are saying on the radio... 15 years to life is the range allowed.
Verdict was read at 10:55 PM Friday night. Info from 790 KABC AM radio.

Fleet
10-04-2008, 03:08 AM
What about, Odd Jabroney :lol: :lol: yeah I don't know, I like making up acronyms for O.J.'s name lol.
I don't know about that one!

But he will have plenty of time to figure out what his initials will now stand for. Maybe he can make a license plate for my car. ;)

MusicJunkie
10-04-2008, 03:09 AM
I wonder what all the "Saint OJ" people think now :lol:

To be honest tho, I wonder if the guilty verdict is about the robbery or just a delayed punishment for the murders of Nicole and Ron.

Either way, it's nice to see him go down and no BS spinning Mark Furman into a racist could hinder the verdict this time.

MusicJunkie
10-04-2008, 03:13 AM
It was only little more than a year ago that a local restaurant got into trouble for refusing to serve OJ when he was in town for the Kentucky Derby. The manager politely told OJ he wasn't welcome there and local civil rights activists tried to turn it into a race thing.

Schmoopie
10-04-2008, 03:16 AM
Oh man, I was stunned when I read this! Not that he doesn't deserve it. Of course he deserves it! I can't believe what a jackass he's turned out to be! I didnt really follow him when he was a big football star, and it took me a while to believe that he was guilty of the murders (why I even thought he was innocent for one second is beyond me-I was just a "kid" back then! LOL), but now I'm convinced that he did it.
That's amazing that he was convicted for everything! I mean talk about moronic. What, was he thinking he wouldn't get caught though?

One thing that gets me is why such a stiff sentence for armed robbery? Life in prison? I've seen people get less than that for killing people (OJ for one). Not saying he doesn't deserve it, but is that the usual punishment for this type of crime?

Kind of eerie that it's been 13 years since that happened!

Andrea

MusicJunkie
10-04-2008, 03:23 AM
One thing that gets me is why such a stiff sentence for armed robbery? Life in prison? I've seen people get less than that for killing people (OJ for one). Not saying he doesn't deserve it, but is that the usual punishment for this type of crime?
I think nobody cares about the robbery, this is pure payback for the 1995 verdict. People wanted to see OJ go down for the murders and people would be damned to let him off again.

OJ managed to stay so smug for the years in between and I think writing the confession book pretty much damned him.

When I was on AOL, there used to be a message board called Conversation Chamber that I would post and read and there was a large proportion of black posters to white posters (maybe 7 to 3) and to many of the posters there, OJ became this patron saint of everything wrong about white America because they thought that we wanted to see a rich black man go down. :rolleyes: I used to call them the "Saint OJ" crowd (and even a few people there believed he was guilty but thought Nicole had what was coming to her for being white), I wonder if that board still exists, and if so, would love to see the discussion going on in there right now.

-STEFFY-
10-04-2008, 03:33 AM
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good riddance!
It's about time!!!

Wreckless
10-04-2008, 03:34 AM
I agree with both of you. Karma is the hand that slaps you in the face and says, Told you so.

Big C
10-04-2008, 04:33 AM
The fact that O.J. used to play in my original city of Buffalo makes me feel ashamed for my hometown city.

Janice
10-04-2008, 04:58 AM
Simpson Found Guilty on All Charges

LAS VEGAS (Oct. 3) -- O.J. Simpson, who went from American sports idol to celebrity-in-exile after he was acquitted of murder in 1995, was found guilty Friday of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a Las Vegas hotel room.

The 61-year-old former football star could spend the rest of his life in prison. Sentencing was set for Dec. 5.

O.J. Simpson was convicted on 12 counts in his armed robbery and kidnapping case late Friday in Las Vegas, 13 years to the day after a Los Angeles jury acquitted him of two murders. The Hall of Fame football star, who could go to prison for life, will face sentencing on Dec. 5. Here, Simpson embraces his lawyer after the verdict.

A weary and somber Simpson released a heavy sigh as the charges were read by the clerk in Clark County District Court. He was immediately taken into custody.

The Hall of Fame football star was convicted of kidnapping, armed robbery and 10 other charges for gathering up five men a year ago and storming into a room at a hotel-casino, where the group seized several game balls, plaques and photos. Prosecutors said two of the men with him were armed; one of them said Simpson asked him to bring a gun.

The verdict came 13 years to the day after Simpson was cleared of murdering his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald Goldman, in Los Angeles in one of the most sensational trials of the 20th century.

"I don't like to use the word payback," defense attorney Yale Galanter said. "I can tell you from the beginning my biggest concern ... was whether or not the jury would be able to separate their very strong feelings about Mr. Simpson and judge him fairly and honestly."

Simpson's co-defendant, Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, also was found guilty on all charges in the Las Vegas case and taken into custody.
Simpson showed little emotion as officers handcuffed him and walked him out of the courtroom. His sister, Carmelita Durio, sobbed behind him in the arms of Simpson's friend, Tom Scotto, who said "I love you" as Simpson passed by. As spectators left the courtroom, Durio collapsed.

Jurors made no eye contact with the defendants as they entered the courtroom. They declined to answer questions after the verdict was read.
Galanter said his client had expected the outcome, and in a courthouse conversation with an Associated Press reporter on Thursday, Simpson had implied as much.

Simpson said he felt melancholy and that he was "afraid that I won't get to go to my kids' college graduations after I managed to get them through college."

Galanter said it was not a happy day for anybody. "His only hope is the appellate process," he said.

Clark County spokesman Dan Kulin said prosecutors would not comment until the case was "completely resolved."

Judge Jackie Glass made no comment other than to thank the jury for its service and to deny motions for the defendants to be released on bail.
She refused to give the lawyers extended time to file a motion for new trial, which under Nevada law must be filed within seven days. The attorneys said they needed time to submit a voluminous record.

"I've sat through the trial," Glass said. "If you want a motion for new trial, send me something."

Stewart's attorney, Brent Bryson, promised to appeal.

"If there was ever a case that should have been severed in the history of jurisprudence, it's this case," he said of unsuccessful attempts to separate Stewart's case from Simpson's because of the "spillover" effect.

From the beginning, Simpson and his lawyers argued the incident was not a robbery, but an attempt to reclaim mementos that had been stolen from him. He said he did not ask anyone to bring a weapon and did not see any guns.

The defense portrayed Simpson as a victim of shady characters who wanted to make a buck off his famous name, and police officers who saw his arrest as an opportunity to "get" him and avenge his acquittal.

Prosecutors said Simpson's ownership of the memorabilia was irrelevant; it was still a crime to try to take things by force.

"When they went into that room and forced the victims to the far side of the room, pulling out guns and yelling, 'Don't let anybody out of here!' — six very large people detaining these two victims in the room with the intent to take property through force or violence from them — that's kidnapping," prosecutor David Roger said.

Kidnapping is punishable by five years to life in prison. Armed robbery carries a mandatory sentence of at least two years behind bars, and could bring as much as 30.

Simpson, who now lives in Miami, did not testify but was heard on a recording of the confrontation screaming that the dealers had stolen his property. "Don't let nobody out of this room," he declared and told the other men to scoop up his items, which included a photo of Simpson with former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover.

Four other men charged in the case struck plea bargains that saved them from potential prison sentences in return for their testimony. Some of them had criminal records or were otherwise compromised in some way. One, for example, was an alleged pimp who testified he had a revelation from God telling him to take a plea bargain.

Memorabilia dealer Thomas Riccio, who arranged and secretly recorded the hotel-room confrontation, said he netted $210,000 from the media for the tapes.

Similarly, minutes after the Sept. 13, 2007, incident, one of the alleged victims, sports-memorabilia dealer Alfred Beardsley, was calling news outlets, and the other, Bruce Fromong, spoke of getting "big money" from the case.

Simpson's past haunted the case. Las Vegas police officers were heard in the recordings chuckling over Simpson's misfortune and crowing that if Los Angeles couldn't "get" him, they would.

During jury selection, Simpson's lawyers expressed fears that people who believed he got away with murder might see this case as a chance to right a wrong.

As a result, an usually large pool of 500 potential jurors was called, and they were given a 26-page questionnaire. Half were almost instantly eliminated after expressing strong feelings that Simpson should have been convicted of murder.

The judge instructed the jurors to put aside Simpson's earlier case.
In closing arguments, Galanter acknowledged that what Simpson did to recover his memorabilia was not right. "But being stupid, and being frustrated is not being a criminal," he said.

He added: "This case has taken on a life of its own because of Mr. Simpson's involvement. You know that. I know that. Every cooperator, every person who had a gun, every person who had an ulterior motive, every person who signed a book deal, every person who got paid money, the police, the district attorney's office, is only interested in one thing: Mr. Simpson."

OH Nuts!
10-04-2008, 08:22 AM
I don't know about that one!

But he will have plenty of time to figure out what his initials will now stand for. Maybe he can make a license plate for my car. ;)

Finally! (Putting it mildly) I'm no fan of him either. The only OJ I like comes in a carton, is orange (hopefully) and has lots of vitamin C.

PattiB
10-04-2008, 10:29 AM
The ruling came 13 years to the day he was acquitted for the murders he committed. I hope he gets a cell mate named bubba that really likes him.

Brian Damage
10-04-2008, 10:32 AM
Justice is finally served!

phoebe7165
10-04-2008, 10:57 AM
Oh man, I was stunned when I read this! Not that he doesn't deserve it. Of course he deserves it! I can't believe what a jackass he's turned out to be! I didnt really follow him when he was a big football star, and it took me a while to believe that he was guilty of the murders (why I even thought he was innocent for one second is beyond me-I was just a "kid" back then! LOL), but now I'm convinced that he did it.
That's amazing that he was convicted for everything! I mean talk about moronic. What, was he thinking he wouldn't get caught though?

It wasn't a matter of getting caught. This arrogant SOB probably thought "hey I beat the system once, I'm OJ Simpson, nobody can touch me!!"

Like Fred Goldman said, if he is convicted & sentenced, I hope his cell has a small window looking out onto a huge golf course!!

IMO, I don't know how they were able to find an "impartial" jury. If I had been called, I wouldn't be able to serve because I would keep thinking of the events of 13 years ago.

But I'm elated he was found guilty!!:rock:

Zoneboy
10-04-2008, 11:09 AM
Maybe he can make a license plate for my car. ;)

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/zoneboy/ScreenHunter_10Oct041106.gif

catlover79
10-04-2008, 12:30 PM
:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

catlover79
10-04-2008, 12:33 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/zoneboy/ScreenHunter_10Oct041106.gif
:lol: :rofl: :brent :clap props:

TJL
10-04-2008, 01:04 PM
Oh no!

How is O.J. going to find the real killers of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman if he's in jail for yet another thing he says he didn't do!

;)

BarneyFife
10-04-2008, 03:52 PM
Yes, they finally nailed his butt. I hope he has to spend at least 15 years in the big house, but something tells me he wont. I hope he drops the soap.;)

MusicJunkie
10-04-2008, 05:58 PM
so has anyone lit a candle and had a good cry for OJ Simpson today? lol

TJL
10-04-2008, 06:37 PM
so has anyone lit a candle and had a good cry for OJ Simpson today? lol

I doubt whatever supporters he had 13 years ago are backing him up this time.

As Dennis Miller used to say: "You're a baaaaaad man, O.J."

;)

James
10-04-2008, 09:22 PM
Yes, they finally nailed his butt. I hope he has to spend at least 15 years in the big house, but something tells me he wont. I hope he drops the soap.;)

What soap, Mr. Fife? I'm confused here! :confused:

phoebe7165
10-04-2008, 09:30 PM
What soap, Mr. Fife? I'm confused here! :confused:

Um, I'm trying to think of a "clean" way to explain this. It's a prison joke. If you drop soap in the shower, you bend over to pick it up. You better watch when you bend over in prison!!

Not that I would know!! Or want to!!:crazy:

LuLu Rogers
10-04-2008, 09:34 PM
Yes, they finally nailed his butt. I hope he has to spend at least 15 years in the big house, but something tells me he wont. I hope he drops the soap.;)

Oh my God, I was thinking that, but you actually said it! props: :rofl: :brent :lol:

Mr. Television
10-04-2008, 10:41 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/zoneboy/ScreenHunter_10Oct041106.gif
:rofl:

Zoneboy
10-04-2008, 10:53 PM
I hope he drops the soap.;)

You mean fumbles the soap. :lol:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ibosBr57L._SS500_.jpg

dawsongirl
10-05-2008, 02:32 AM
He's such a loser. Throw the book at him and throw away the key to his cell.

80sTrivia
10-05-2008, 08:58 AM
Good to know that Karma always comes back to bite the bad guy in the @$$! :clap:

TripperFan
10-05-2008, 10:41 AM
I heard on the radio when he will be sentenced... I think it was Dec. 5th.


Yep! Merry Christmas Jerkface! It's about time justice finally caught up with you!

And basically 10 - 20 IS life for him now. At least now the kids are old enough to be on their own.

He fits my saying, give someone like him enough rope, and he'll eventually hang himself from arrogance! :wave:

TripperFan
10-05-2008, 10:43 AM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/zoneboy/ScreenHunter_10Oct041106.gif



:rofl: Another great one!!

Do you know that to this day, I won't rent from Hertz because of his former association with them? I know I shouldn't blame them, but I want NOTHING to do related to that murderous creep.

TripperFan
10-05-2008, 10:48 AM
The ruling came 13 years to the day he was acquitted for the murders he committed. I hope he gets a cell mate named bubba that really likes him.


And better yet - let's hope Bubba is there for wearing white sheets and a hood - and they throw O.J. in with him. The only time Bubba and his friends might be useful to this world!



And not even a ledge to put his Heisman trophy on.....

phoebe7165
10-05-2008, 11:58 AM
And not even a ledge to put his Heisman trophy on.....

I thought he had to give that up to the Goldman's as part of the wrongful death suit.

Brieannas21
10-05-2008, 01:52 PM
Not surprised at all, I knew that they would find him guilty from the very first day the trial was held, it's all about payback.

MusicJunkie
10-05-2008, 02:51 PM
Not surprised at all, I knew that they would find him guilty from the very first day the trial was held, it's all about payback.
true, but at the same time, I figured he'd get off again just because jurors are always so starstruck when it comes to celebrities. They don't want to be the ones responsible for putting a beloved entertainer behind bars.... which has gotten the likes of Robert Blake, Michael Jackson and R. Kelly acquitted. Have you met some of Michael Jackson's hardcore fans? Would YOU want to deal with their wrath if you had thrown him behind bars? I sure wouldn't. Those people would kill for him. I've read fan-fiction stories on his boards by fans who would kill their entire family if Michael asked them to... now imagine some jurors who threw him behind bars? They'd be hated worse than Mark David Chapman by them :lol:

Brieannas21
10-05-2008, 03:48 PM
true, but at the same time, I figured he'd get off again just because jurors are always so starstruck when it comes to celebrities. They don't want to be the ones responsible for putting a beloved entertainer behind bars.... which has gotten the likes of Robert Blake, Michael Jackson and R. Kelly acquitted. Have you met some of Michael Jackson's hardcore fans? Would YOU want to deal with their wrath if you had thrown him behind bars? I sure wouldn't. Those people would kill for him. I've read fan-fiction stories on his boards by fans who would kill their entire family if Michael asked them to... now imagine some jurors who threw him behind bars? They'd be hated worse than Mark David Chapman by them :lol:


I could care less if he sits in jail for the rest of his life, I'm just saying that it's payback.

Fleet
10-05-2008, 04:26 PM
I could care less if he sits in jail for the rest of his life, I'm just saying that it's payback.
The evidence was pretty strong that he actually did commit a crime. He intended to get "his" property back by force, announced that "no one leaves this room," and knew his assisstants had guns.
You cannot take back your property, even by force. You are supposed to notify the police and they will take the appropriate measures.

Fleet
10-05-2008, 04:27 PM
Yep! Merry Christmas Jerkface! It's about time justice finally caught up with you!

And basically 10 - 20 IS life for him now. At least now the kids are old enough to be on their own.

He fits my saying, give someone like him enough rope, and he'll eventually hang himself from arrogance! :wave:
Yeah, if it's anything more than about 15 years, it will most likely be life because his is already 61 years old.

catlover79
10-05-2008, 04:28 PM
The evidence was pretty strong that he actually did commit a crime. He intended to get "his" property back by force, announced that "no one leaves this room," and knew his assisstants had guns.
You cannot take back your property, even by force. You are supposed to notify the police and they will take the appropriate measures.
Serves him right for being so smug and arrogant - above the law...yeah, right!!!!

Brieannas21
10-05-2008, 04:32 PM
The evidence was pretty strong that he actually did commit a crime. He intended to get "his" property back by force, announced that "no one leaves this room," and knew his assisstants had guns.
You cannot take back your property, even by force. You are supposed to notify the police and they will take the appropriate measures.


And I'm not justifying what he did, if I am let me know

catlover79
10-05-2008, 04:33 PM
And I'm not justifying what he did, if I am let me know
Oh, I know that. I don't think anyone is, honestly.

Janice
10-05-2008, 05:53 PM
Not surprised at all, I knew that they would find him guilty from the very first day the trial was held, it's all about payback.
No way. I followed this trial closely. They had loads of evidence against him. He was as guilty as sin.

TripperFan
10-05-2008, 09:38 PM
No way. I followed this trial closely. They had loads of evidence against him. He was as guilty as sin.

Same here - we were glued to it. Frank's brother taped the entire thing even! The only reason he got off is because some evidence couldn't be shown to the jury as well as other things that couldn't be entered into evidence to them. Many of them said aftewards once they were allowed to see all the evidence they had missed, that they would have convicted him had they known.

TVFactFan
10-05-2008, 10:34 PM
Yes, IMO he was definitely guilty in 1994 as well but opinions are opinions...


Like you were into the trail at the time-lol You had no interest in the O.J. trail in 94 so cut it out

Brieannas21
10-05-2008, 10:38 PM
Like you were into the trail at the time-lol You had no interest in the O.J. trail in 94 so cut it out


I remember the trial and I had no interest in it LOL

TVFactFan
10-05-2008, 10:40 PM
I remember the trial and I had no interest in it LOL


Much like Wreckless, you was too young to care-lol

Brieannas21
10-05-2008, 10:45 PM
Much like Wreckless, you was too young to care-lol


I wouldn't say that I was too young, I just didn't care

MusicJunkie
10-05-2008, 10:46 PM
Like you were into the trail at the time-lol You had no interest in the O.J. trail in 94 so cut it out
if you had a TV in 94-95, you knew all about the trial. It was probably more talked about and covered than the 911 attacks were.

Janice
10-06-2008, 12:04 AM
Age really has nothing to do with it, because a person can read about the case and get all the facts. My nephew has an interest in it, and he was only 16 in 1994. He's a reader. I know a real lot about the Civil War and WWII, and I wasn't even born yet.

MusicJunkie
10-06-2008, 12:16 AM
Age really has nothing to do with it, because a person can read about the case and get all the facts. My nephew has an interest in it, and he was only 16 in 1994. He's a reader. I know a real lot about the Civil War and WWII, and I wasn't even born yet.
I agree. I was 14-15 at the time and it seemed like OJ and that trial was everywhere and we all had opinions and would talk about it in school, etc... The fact that he was such a big football player (and most people my age who were too young to remember his football glory had seen the Naked Gun movies) and everything made it a far bigger event than a normal murder. I seriously believe that TV devoted more time to that trial in 94-95 than it did to the events of 9-11. By the time the verdict was read, I think the whole nation was OJ'd out because it was all over the news for over a year and everyone like Kato and Al Cowlings had all had their 15 minutes of fame.

I was in class the day the verdict was read and I remember everything came to a halt and every classroom had the TV turned on to hear the verdict.

Janice
10-06-2008, 12:24 AM
I was in class the day the verdict was read and I remember everything came to a halt and every classroom had the TV turned on to hear the verdict.
I think everyone over a certain age remembers where they were when the verdict came in, same for the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster.

LuLu Rogers
10-06-2008, 12:26 AM
I think everyone over a certain age remembers where they were when the verdict came in, same for the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster.

I was only 7 in 1994 but I remember it like it was yesterday.

TripperFan
10-06-2008, 12:32 AM
I think everyone over a certain age remembers where they were when the verdict came in, same for the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster.


Exactly - and Janice and I were only kids when they landed on the moon, and I'll bet Janice remembers that every bit as much as I do.

It was huge news - I can see where Wreckless is coming from here for sure.

MusicJunkie
10-06-2008, 12:33 AM
I am a little surprised OJ didn't assemble a "Dream Team" this time around.

I still think what they did to Mark Fuhrman was immoral and reprehensible. I am not excusing his usage of the n-word, that word shouldn't belong in anyones vocabulary, but what did him using that word once in 1985 have to do with the OJ trial? He had damning evidence against OJ but because he slipped and said a word he shouldn't have a decade prior, none of that mattered.

TripperFan
10-06-2008, 12:35 AM
I am a little surprised OJ didn't assemble a "Dream Team" this time around.

I still think what they did to Mark Fuhrman was immoral and reprehensible. I am not excusing his usage of the n-word, that word shouldn't belong in anyones vocabulary, but what did him using that word once in 1985 have to do with the OJ trial? He had damning evidence against OJ but because he slipped and said a word he shouldn't have a decade prior, none of that mattered.



He couldn't afford it like he could back in '94 - simple as that.

And the Fuhrman thing was only used to get the attention off of the actual evidence - which was overwhelming. They needed "something" to play the race card. They couldn't before the Fuhrman thing, because OJ was as "white" as most of his friends.

MusicJunkie
10-06-2008, 12:36 AM
I think everyone over a certain age remembers where they were when the verdict came in, same for the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster.
same with the car chase, that made for some fun television because it was probably the slowest car chase in the history of mankind

TripperFan
10-06-2008, 12:40 AM
same with the car chase, that made for some fun television because it was probably the slowest car chase in the history of mankind


I remember the entire soap opera from beginning to end. Was watching the news when they arrested him. We had company over and the sound down on the t.v. when I noticed him by the tree outside his home in handcuffs.

Then next was the exciting, 7 mph car chase, where you're expecting him to be in baggy pants and a wife beater only to run from the Bronco to be brought down by the cops....oh sorry - that's another show....

Then, The Trial Of The Century as the media loved to tout it! :crazy:

MusicJunkie
10-06-2008, 12:45 AM
I remember the entire soap opera from beginning to end. Was watching the news when they arrested him. We had company over and the sound down on the t.v. when I noticed him by the tree outside his home in handcuffs.

Then next was the exciting, 7 mph car chase, where you're expecting him to be in baggy pants and a wife beater only to run from the Bronco to be brought down by the cops....oh sorry - that's another show....

Then, The Trial Of The Century as the media loved to tout it! :crazy:
what was funny about it was that I remember not long before this all happened, his mother was doing advertisements for some company where she would be running just like he did as a football player, and of course the ads stopped abruptly once he was arrested. Naked Gun 33 1/3 came out not that long before the murders either, maybe two months prior. By the time it came to HBO, the trial was all over the place.

Besides the fact that two people died and a man walked free for 13 years... the worst thing to come out of the whole mess was Kim Kardashian. Her dad was one of the dream team lawyers, would anyone care who her father was to give his daughter a reality show if not for OJ? :lol:

Janice
10-06-2008, 12:47 AM
same with the car chase, that made for some fun television because it was probably the slowest car chase in the history of mankind
Yeah, we could have run along side the car and beat it. :lol:

TripperFan
10-06-2008, 01:29 AM
Besides the fact that two people died and a man walked free for 13 years... the worst thing to come out of the whole mess was Kim Kardashian. Her dad was one of the dream team lawyers, would anyone care who her father was to give his daughter a reality show if not for OJ? :lol:

Well, not that I would defend her old man, but she's also Bruce Jenner's stepdaughter now and he's a huge attention whore (a la Dancing With The Stars, Skating with Super-Incredible C-List Celebrities - or whatever it was) so I can see him maybe having more to do with it than her sperm donor even.

Wreckless
10-06-2008, 01:38 AM
Yeah, we could have run along side the car and beat it. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: So True lol...

MusicJunkie
10-06-2008, 01:42 AM
Well, not that I would defend her old man, but she's also Bruce Jenner's stepdaughter now and he's a huge attention whore (a la Dancing With The Stars, Skating with Super-Incredible C-List Celebrities - or whatever it was) so I can see him maybe having more to do with it than her sperm donor even.
I seriously had no idea who the woman was until I looked her up on Wikipedia. Seems like in the past two years, she gets a lot of buzz, and for what? I mean, people compare her with Paris Hilton but at least Paris has been a model and has dabbled in acting and singing... what has Kim done? Yet she's this A-list celebrity now? OJ should get another five years on his sentence for inflicting her on us :lol:

TripperFan
10-06-2008, 01:48 AM
I seriously had no idea who the woman was until I looked her up on Wikipedia. Seems like in the past two years, she gets a lot of buzz, and for what? I mean, people compare her with Paris Hilton but at least Paris has been a model and has dabbled in acting and singing... what has Kim done? Yet she's this A-list celebrity now? OJ should get another five years on his sentence for inflicting her on us :lol:
She can't even dance! You'd think with her endowments she could at least do something with them, but guess that's not it! ;)

catlover79
10-06-2008, 11:43 AM
Yeah, we could have run along side the car and beat it. :lol:
:rofl:

PunkyP0WER
10-06-2008, 12:43 PM
i was in 7th grade art class when they read the verdict. i remember the art teacher putting up the radio and everyone being as quiet as a churchmouse as the verdict was read and them asking each and every juror one by one if this was their agreed upon verdict. and i remember my art teacher was shocked that they found him not guilty.

catlover79
10-06-2008, 01:42 PM
I wasn't surprised. If the verdict had been guilty - the Rodney King riots would've looked like a Sunday picnic!!!! :eek:

Brieannas21
10-06-2008, 02:25 PM
I wasn't surprised. If the verdict had been guilty - the Rodney King riots would've looked like a Sunday picnic!!!! :eek:


Now THAT was something that held my attention

MusicJunkie
10-06-2008, 02:49 PM
I wasn't surprised. If the verdict had been guilty - the Rodney King riots would've looked like a Sunday picnic!!!! :eek:
yea, I do think the jurors had that in mind. I found it apalling how many people sided with OJ simply due to race. Murder is murder, it's not a white or black thing, it's a human thing.

catlover79
10-06-2008, 03:47 PM
yea, I do think the jurors had that in mind. I found it apalling how many people sided with OJ simply due to race. Murder is murder, it's not a white or black thing, it's a human thing.
I'm with you 100%.

TripperFan
10-06-2008, 04:25 PM
yea, I do think the jurors had that in mind. I found it apalling how many people sided with OJ simply due to race. Murder is murder, it's not a white or black thing, it's a human thing.


Exactly - pretty sad when justice is screwed up because they're afraid of what could happen in the community - now THAT'S jury tampering!

Race never even entered my mind in the case (afterall, it was a mixed marriage so O.J. sure wasn't thinking any racial). It was only when Cochrane's team brought it up and to me, they did that out of desperation - they knew they could have easily lost otherwise.

And even as much as I enjoyed watching it, the trial probably never should have been televised - it brought sensationalism to it too much.

MusicJunkie
10-06-2008, 04:25 PM
I'm with you 100%.
its sad that people take sides for things like that. If the roles were reversed and a white man was on trial for killing his black ex-wife and another black friend, I'd still want him to fry for it. Hell, even if someone wanted to bring the gay thing into it and ask if I'd defend a gay person on trial.... I thought Jeffrey Dahmer got what he deserved, no "get out of jail" passes from me because he might've been called a ****** by a few people. Murder is inexcusable unless it's in self-defense, and I don't believe OJ was defending himself