i was wondering if anyone has any updated information about the boys who were hit by the train while they laid on the train tracks.

i was wondering if anyone has any updated information about the boys who were hit by the train while they laid on the train tracks.

Still no arrests for their murder. Here's a thread with some more info:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=218507

awesome thank you.

Bill Clinton killed them.

Bill Clinton killed them.
more like george bush killed them... but seriously I think it may be a good poss that these boys were murdered in order to cover a more darker secert

Bill Clinton killed them.


exactly! There was heavy cocaine running through arkansas in the mid 80's (Clinton's brother Roger was an addict and there are believable rumors that Bill used as well). There were several other people that mysteriously turned up dead each time they were ready to come forward with information on the boys. The "Octopus" that Danny casalaro was investigating was actually linked to this as well.

more like george bush killed them... but seriously I think it may be a good poss that these boys were murdered in order to cover a more darker secert


how do you figure that either George Bush was involved?

There was another case similar to the Boys on the Tracks profiled on UM a few years later. It centered around a young boy who went off on his parents' property with a small calibre rifle and was found dead soon after. The local coroner insists that it was a suicide despite a large amount of evidence to the contrary. An interesting thing brought up in the segment was that his father had found a crude, homemade radio transimitting device on his property often thought to act as some kind of radio beacon for aircraft-dropped drug shipments. Does anyone remember this episode or is there an already-existing link?

There was another case similar to the Boys on the Tracks profiled on UM a few years later. It centered around a young boy who went off on his parents' property with a small calibre rifle and was found dead soon after. The local coroner insists that it was a suicide despite a large amount of evidence to the contrary. An interesting thing brought up in the segment was that his father had found a crude, homemade radio transimitting device on his property often thought to act as some kind of radio beacon for aircraft-dropped drug shipments. Does anyone remember this episode or is there an already-existing link?

That's the Norman Ladner case. If you check out the search function and type in Norman Ladner, you will find the posts you need for info.

I hope this case will get closed reallyy soon

Me too Cowboy. Any time something awful like this happens to kids.... it's just too hard to forget. You feel for the parents and want it solved so they can at least have a little bit of peace.

i was wondering if anyone has any updated information about the boys who were hit by the train while they laid on the train tracks.

There was an update recently stating that one of the boys had stab marks on his jacket which the coroner determined happened before they were put on the train tracks. Also, both boys had marijuana in their systems. It appears as though someone killed them, then laid their bodies on the train tracks for the train to run them over. Very sad case. Does anyone else know anymore updates?

there is a huge conspiracy regarding this case. Did this happen in Arkansas? If so that is the same case. There is a theory that the boys ran upon some kind of drug runners in the wood and they were killed. Huge drug deals that go all the way up to government Clinton.

there is a huge conspiracy regarding this case. Did this happen in Arkansas? If so that is the same case. There is a theory that the boys ran upon some kind of drug runners in the wood and they were killed. Huge drug deals that go all the way up to government Clinton.

That Bill Clinton thing was serious? I thought they were just joking. Please explain this.

That Bill Clinton thing was serious? I thought they were just joking. Please explain this.

Yes, here is a link:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14244

There is a book too. I'm not convinced that Clinton had anything to do with it, but I do feel the boys stumbled onto something. The boys names are Kevin Ives and Don Henry.

Yes, here is a link:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14244

There is a book too. I'm not convinced that Clinton had anything to do with it, but I do feel the boys stumbled onto something. The boys names are Kevin Ives and Don Henry.

WOW, I had no idea. Yea I doubt Clinton had anything to do with it either but he probably knew that the crime was bigger than local law enforcement and didnt want to touch it.


It makes this comment look even more ********..

more like george bush killed them... but seriously I think it may be a good poss that these boys were murdered in order to cover a more darker secert

Yes this is indeed a very sad story...very interesting i did not know that there was even a supposed link to Bill Clinton- mind you I dont believe that the book about the boys is even available in Australia unfortunately but i would love to read it for more information. Is the book specifically about Kevin Ives and Don Henley? and is there any information about the almost identical case of two boys lying on tracks that was mentioned in the UM segment? Its seems like any absolutely bizzare case eventually leads to politics and corruption

Is the book specifically about Kevin Ives and Don Henley?

Yeah, but it was mainly about their lives after they left the Eagles.

Yeah, but it was mainly about their lives after they left the Eagles.

LOL! - I'm sure she's not the first one to make that mistake :lol:

I'm pretty sure you're referring to Kevin Ives and Don Henry.

It's widely rumoured that the two boys stumbled upon some sort of large scale drug transaction, possibly even a cocaine drop which involved several police and high ranking government officials.

After stumbling upon it they were murdered and then their murder was made to look like an accident or possibly even a suicide. I can't remember where I heard this from but I remember hearing that it is widely believed that two police officers are responsible for both the murder and the cover up.

I watched another documentary lately where a big time cocaine importer who personally flew cocaine into the states directly from columbia claimed that he would drop the cocaine in Mena, Arkansas which was the place where the two boys were killed. He went onto claim that the majority of the police and government were "in on it" and that police often watched over the drops to make sure everything ran smoothly.

I've always thought the two boys got stoned out of their mind, layed down to look at the stars or something, and passed out.

I've always thought the two boys got stoned out of their mind, layed down to look at the stars or something, and passed out.

I don't buy it, because if one's going to lay on something, they're going to find the most comfortable place they can, which in the woods would be the ground, not railroad tracks. And if I remember right, they said something about there being evidence that they were dead before the train hit.

Oh yeah, duh, I forgot the dead before being layed on the tracks thing.

Thanks :wave:

Well, then, this case is interesting then. But, I have a hard time believing the whole "man in military outfit" thing.

Oh yeah, duh, I forgot the dead before being layed on the tracks thing.

Thanks :wave:

Well, then, this case is interesting then. But, I have a hard time believing the whole "man in military outfit" thing.

Yes and no. I mean is it possible that there was some nutcase running around in fatigues? Of course. It's rural Arkansas. But that I have no evidence of. Although the transmitter that was found was an interesting piece of the puzzle.

Found this about the case. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=86122

And goto the website that shall not be named and type in Mena Connection i couldnot believe it

Found this about the case. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=86122

And goto the website that shall not be named and type in Mena Connection i couldnot believe it

Wow. I just watched that whole thing. It's sickening to hear just how many people are involved in cover ups, key witnesses being murdered and how all the guilty parties have still gone unpunished.

Yeah the six parts really go into detail about all the dealings.

There is another movie on the site called invisible Empire which connects the Mena case with another UM case. The Danny Casalaro case is mentioned in Invisible Empire A New World Order Defined but the the movie is 2 hours long how the person uploaded that i don't know....

I just skip to about hour and 3 seconds and there it should be. But if you have alot of free time watch it you should

Found this about the case. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=86122

And goto the website that shall not be named and type in Mena Connection i couldnot believe it
Wow that is beyond sinister.

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Member- Yeah, but it was mainly about their lives after they left the Eagles.

oh your SO funny- LOL :P

Well, then, this case is interesting then. But, I have a hard time believing the whole "man in military outfit" thing.
i could see that a man in a military outfit scenerio. This man could be a pyscho who hunts whatever he sees and maybe he thought two teens would be perfect or these boys could've seen something and he killed them. i have a VERY hard time believing the original idea of being so stoned that they passed out. First off, one boy was reported dead before he got to the tracks (suspicious), but my deal is, if you are so stoned you pass out, how do you pass out so perfectly on the tracks??? you don't, the killer obviously put the bodies here so they would get crushed.

This has always been a case where nothing makes much sense for me.

They found drugs in the boys systems, but one of them was dead before being laid on the tracks.

And this "military man" thing just sounds fake to me.

This has always been a case where nothing makes much sense for me.

They found drugs in the boys systems, but one of them was dead before being laid on the tracks.

And this "military man" thing just sounds fake to me.

This case doesn;t make sense because there is staging (coverup) involved.

Usually when you have evidence that conflicts with itself, it means that evidence has been fabricated.

But, I have a hard time believing the whole "man in military outfit" thing.

Why?

Why?

Exactly. It's not exactly a stretch to think that some nutcase was walking around in cammies. And just because someone's wearing cammies doesn't mean he's "military."

Doesn't make them a killer either.

Doesn't make them a killer either.

Exactly. I'm not saying whoever it was was involved with the deaths, I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possiblilty that there was some random guy in cammies, running around in the area.

Doesn't make them a killer either.

Well, if he opened fire on the cop like the segment says, he sure didn't mind the possibility of becoming a killer if he wasn't already.

I think it is possible that this man could be real and could very well be connected to the crimes. The update to the UM segment has said for certain that the boys were murdered. After a second autopsy was performed, the cause of death was reclassified as definite homicide.

As far as Cammo boy goes, I think there is a chance that when the case began getting more publicity, this whole thing was fabricated or perhaps was just noted as another possible connection to the case that may lead away from the drug traffic aspect. What i mean is that it could have been flat out fabricated, or it could be unrelated but was linked as another possibility other than drug smuggling.

Does anyone remember another update to this segment? I could have sworn that I saw a second update after the first one. The one that is usually shown has the prosecutor in in the case talking of thinking of the case all the time and how he now carries a gun since working on the case. I am pretty sure that I saw at one point an additional update with Robert Stack giving more info as well as showing a map of suspected drug traffic locations in the area where the boys were killed. Does anyone else remember this? It is not on the DVD set. The DVD set I believe only has the first update. I recall only seeing this update one time and I think that was on a lifetime segment. Anyone?

This case intrigued me alot, so we wrote a song about it....


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Schmackey-and-the-Salads/143531522351088?v=app_178091127385

Now THIS case is a real Unsolved Mystery!

Although they did reopen the case after the families got together the amount of wasted by authorities likely means that the killers got way w/ this crime.

I do have a few questions though:

1) Why did only one of them have a stab wound?
2) Obviously they weren't killed on the tracks. How close was the actual murder scene?
3) How did single killer (if that's what happened) engage and kill two teenage boys, one armed, w/o being injured himself? And if so, did they check local hospitals?
4) The "camo man": Obviously he wasn't a resident of the area and his walking indicated either a nearby parked vehicle or the fact that he was living in the woods. Did they do a search for him?
5) Since the boys were jacklighting animals and were making some noise doing it, it's surprising that they actually managed to sneak up on someone. Anybody know what the police said about that?

After so much time has passed, obviously w/o a confession or a DNA match on potential evidence,it's unlikely,IMHO, that this will be solved.

Maybe it was someone who didn't like the boys spotlighting.

I just saw this segment re-aired recently and they said in the update they had officially changed the cause of death to homicide, but they didn't say anything about any arrests.

I just saw this segment re-aired recently and they said in the update they had officially changed the cause of death to homicide, but they didn't say anything about any arrests.


I'm glad you said that becuase when I saw this segment they said

witnessess witnessed 2 boys getting beaten by a few cops

the guy in camo was walking up and down the tracks a mile walk both directions and the trains were suspected on dropping drugs for a drug ring (from what I heard)

I'm guessing the guy in camo is the person picking the drugs on the tracks the boys find drugs on the tracks one night and decide to check back the next night they do... the guy in camo sees them and stabs one (one of the boys shirts after their bodies were found on the tracks said there were knife cuts through the shirt.... maybe the camo guy stabbed the one boy and broke the other boys neck even if the train ran that boy over.... I'm guessing you cant ktell the difference if the boy suffered any injuries from being run over by a train and all the bones are crushed... maybe the cops are part of this too why have they ignored it for this long and why was it declared suicide before this evn if the facts stared them down right in front of them.....

Did they mention that one of the boys had been stabbed in the segment? I have watched this segment several times on the UM DVD set and can't recall any stab wound being mentioned.

Did they mention that one of the boys had been stabbed in the segment? I have watched this segment several times on the UM DVD set and can't recall any stab wound being mentioned.

Yes, they did talk about the stab wounds, I think that is one of the reasons they changed the official cause of death (along with pressure from families). This was a Dennis Farina narrated version that aired on Lifetime probably about a week ago (I DVR UM everyday because it airs when I'm still at work and catch up on them when I get a chance, so not sure of the exact air date). This seems like it was the most recently updated version though because I didn't remember them having changed the cause of death until I saw it this time. :)

I think they changed the cause of death to definite homicide many years ago. I have the video here where Stack did an update and interviewed the prosecutor (it was a Lifetime Real Women version which probably also aired on Lifetime). That's when he said the cause of death had been updated from "possible homicide to definite homicide."

You can find it on that unmentionable site.

I think they changed the cause of death to definite homicide many years ago. I have the video here where Stack did an update and interviewed the prosecutor (it was a Lifetime Real Women version which probably also aired on Lifetime). That's when he said the cause of death had been updated from "possible homicide to definite homicide."

You can find it on that unmentionable site.

sorry for being late on the update then....just saw it and the post so was trying to be helpful. New here so forgive me for stating the obvious. :wave: looking forward to being part of the discussion

sorry for being late on the update then....just saw it and the post so was trying to be helpful. New here so forgive me for stating the obvious. :wave: looking forward to being part of the discussion



Are they still doing this series where they update it with any updated news? or is this series just repeated with updates they add in the future... like if there was any update on this case NOW in 2011 and this was filmjed 2 years ago do they still add updates?

Are they still doing this series where they update it with any updated news? or is this series just repeated with updates they add in the future... like if there was any update on this case NOW in 2011 and this was filmjed 2 years ago do they still add updates?


As far as I know this was from the version SPike did a few years ago. I don't know of any newer updated ones.