Does anyone know any details as why David & June divorced ?

They seemed like a Happy couple.

Hi and welcome! I think David has been more private with his life than the rest of the family and nothing really was ever said about why they divorced, unlike Ricky's marriage. I just finished another bio of Ricky and from what I read, I guess June never really "fit in" with the rest of the family. She didn't have a "pedigree" like Kris since she was adopted. June was an actress before marrying and wanted some input on her character, but Ozzie ruled the show and no one really told him what to do. June did insist on using her name on the show. If you notice in the credits, it always did say "June Blair".
June never acted again since the show, she stayed home and raised their sons. I always wondered if Ozzie had anything to do with that.

There was a comment from Harriet in the bio that was a little strange, she said, "we had one family and now there's three", after the boys married, and she didn't seem too happy with that. I think she and Ozzie would probably have liked both boys to marry and still live at home with them.

Thanks for the welcome. I was a member of sitcoms a while back, but re-registered today.

I appreciate the info on Dave & June. That's interesting that she felt like she didn't fit in. It's too bad that she and Dave split. They seemed to really be in love. I think it's strange that Dave's step-children by his second marriage are always mentioned, but his 2 sons with June are not.

Yes, it's strange that his sons aren't mentioned at all except when it's noted that David has five children. I believe they're in their 40's now, one is close to the same age as Ricky's oldest daughter, Tracy. I've often wondered what they do, if they married, have children, their relationship with their father, etc. Maybe June kept them out of the public eye for a reason.

Hopefully Dave maintained a good relationship with his boys. When A&E did that Biography on The Nelson family a few years back, there was no mention of them as I recall.

I was surprised that Kris was interviewed.

Ozzie and Harriet always liked Kris and she even lived with them before she and Ricky married. Kris was 17 when they married, Ricky was in his 20's. The Nelsons knew the Harmons and I guess they kind of pushed Kris and Ricky together. Harriet kept in touch with Kris long after she and Ricky divorced. I wonder if Ozzie and Harriet kept in touch with the two boys after the divorce?

I wonder that too about Ozzie & Harriet. I remember in that bio they talked about how the whole family would go down to the house in Laguna Beach and just enjoy themselves.

I never knew that kris lived with the Nelosns before she & rick married. I guess that explains Tracy :lol:

I wonder how O&H felt about June personaly. I have read that June was a former playboy bunny.

I saw that David's birth year is listed as 1936, but I have seen 1936 and 1932listed for June. Wonder which it is ?

On the epsiode of "David's 17 Birthday", they show some real home movies where David was two years of age in the year 1938. That would make his birth year 1936.

Some interesting info here on Dave and June. I thought they were a cute couple, at least on the show. I personally thought they had more chemistry then Rick and Kris.

June came across as very sweet where Kris was more excitable and energetic.Neither had that wise cracking charm that Harriet had.

If I remember correctly from the 2 bios I read on Ricky, June didn't fit in easily with the rest of the family like Kris did. And I got the impression that she and Dave just grew apart - not like the acrimonious divorce & fights that Rick and Kris had in the 70s & early 80s.

And the funny thing is, right after Ozzie's funeral, Dave filed for divorce.

I always got the impression that June was considered an "outsider" because of her sultry past. Which must say a lot about David's hormones :lol:

I think Dave and June had been separated for awhile but the divorce wasn't final until after Ozzie's death. David took care of Ozzie a lot when he became very ill. In one bio, Ozzie said it seemed things had come full circle, because he remembered holding David and taking him to the bathroom and now David was doing the same for him. That was indeed sad to read.
About the divorce, Ozzie told David it would seem like the end of the world but things would in get better with time, so I guess Ozzie did know a divorce was going to happen. Of course, this in in another bio I read, don't know how much is the truth.

When I read the transcript of the Nelsons on Larry King in Dec. 2005, Dave's wife Yvonne, said that Ozzie was the one who introduced her and David.

I was surprised to find out several years ago that June was a former Playboy centerfold. Then she married into the Nelson family, which were supposed to be the ideal family. I always wondered if that didn't cause a scandal of some sort. When Kris was pregnant with Tracy, the family made up that phony story about her being premature to keep the family image wholesome.

I was surprised to find out several years ago that June was a former Playboy centerfold. Then she married into the Nelson family, which were supposed to be the ideal family. I always wondered if that didn't cause a scandal of some sort. When Kris was pregnant with Tracy, the family made up that phony story about her being premature to keep the family image wholesome.

Back then, I guess it would have been a scandal. I saw David and Ricky on a talk show in the seventy's and David remarked that Ricky lost his virginity with a hooker at age 13 while the family was on vacation in England, i believe. Ricky looked very embarrassed. I guess Ozzie and Harriet weren't as ideal in real life as the tv show since Ricky and Kris lived together in their home until they married.

Back then, I guess it would have been a scandal. I saw David and Ricky on a talk show in the seventy's and David remarked that Ricky lost his virginity with a hooker at age 13 while the family was on vacation in England, i believe. Ricky looked very embarrassed. I guess Ozzie and Harriet weren't as ideal in real life as the tv show since Ricky and Kris lived together in their home until they married.

Just because they lived together doesn't mean they were allowed to share the same bed and if it was true that Rick was in his 20's when he first met Kris, then it could be that Ozzie and Harriet felt being a man he could make his own decisions in that regard and if so, I don't feel that Ozzie and Harriet should be looked down on for what their kids did or didn't do. JMO.;)

It was quiet obvious in the bio that they shared the same room. Once Kris was pregnant, they got married two months later. Kris was 17 at the time.
One thing's for sure, you can't control your childrens' actions, no matter where they are. I'm not "looking down" on them at all, just making an observation.

In the made for TV bio movie, it was suggested by Ozzie that press releases state that Kris gave birth to Tracy prematurely.....despite Rick's objections. All in the name of preserving that wholesome TV image.

I wonder what Ricky's life would have been like if he had married June instead of Kris? I remember the first episode with June where she played Ricky's girlfriend.

On the show Kris always played as if she were extremely jealous over Rick. I say she was probably like that in real life.

I wonder if Kris swatted Rick's bum with a frying pan IRL too? :lol:

"I'll sweetie pie you!" :D--yes, good times with Wally and Ginger

I wonder if Kris swatted Rick's bum with a frying pan IRL too? :lol:

"I'll sweetie pie you!" :D--yes, good times with Wally and Ginger

No, but according to one of the bios, she chased him out of a hot tub with two cheerleaders (if I remember correctly)

I wonder why Kris' parents let their 17 year old child.. yes CHILD!! move in with her 20something boyfriend and his parents.

And what happened to the house Rick was living with Dave, and then Charley Britt after Dave was married, and before Rick married. Did Rick move back in with his parents so he could co-habitate with Kris?

How long were they living together? Was it after she found out she was pregnant but before they got married? Or before she was pregnant?

I'm just interested in time lines.
And why the Harmons would allow her to move in with Ozzie and Harriet. That's why I'm wondering if it was after she was pregnant and before the wedding, and things were a bit difficult for Kris at home when her parents found out.

It was quiet obvious in the bio that they shared the same room. Once Kris was pregnant, they got married two months later. Kris was 17 at the time.
One thing's for sure, you can't control your childrens' actions, no matter where they are. I'm not "looking down" on them at all, just making an observation.

I'm sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I didn't mean that you were "looking down" on them, I meant society as a whole. It seems that people made it their business even back then what others did and judged them because they may have did something "Out of the norm". So they decided that it was wrong for Rick and Kris to sleep in the same bed being unmarried and that "sin" as people liked to call it made the family "un-wholesome". I'm sorry, but there were alot worse things they could do.:rolleyes: I didn't see the bio, but I was just thinking that there are so many bios on stars that are not accurate that's all. But, I'm just a new fan so i for sure don't know what's true and what isn't.

It never made sense why the Harmons would let their 17 year old move in with Ricky, but Kris was not a favorite child according to the last bio I read.
Tom Harmon was especailly rough on his son Mark. The other daughter was a favorite of Mrs. Harmon, so Kris was the one left out.
Kris seemed very violent at times with Rick and the children. I do believe one of the twins has made an effort to re connect with his mother, but I don't think it's happened with Tracy.

Kris seemed very violent at times with Rick and the children. I do believe one of the twins has made an effort to re connect with his mother, but I don't think it's happened with Tracy.

It was Gunnar. Here's the clip from the thread re: Celebrity Fit Club and his visit with Kris with the therapist there with them.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=162898

It's kind of sad, really. :confused:

I guess that's why I've always had the utmost respect for the offspring of Rick and Kris. I mean, these kids had every excuse to be slackers, with the problems with their mom and then the horrible tragedy with their dad, yet have all of them have turned out to be decent, hard working and successful in their own lives.

Kudos to Tracy, Matt, Gunnar and Sam. *applause*

I can't remember what interview it was I saw, or exactly how long ago, but in some interview Tracy said something to the effect that she and her brothers all saw what drugs and alcohol could do to you first hand and it was that that made each of them decide to not take that path.

I commend them for that. So many children in that setting with drug and alcohol abuse fall into the trap of repeating the cycle. Here all 4 of the kids said you know what, that's not how I want to be. I'm not going to let that happen to me. They were taught lessons the hard way and they learned them well.

I used to read a blog that Gunnar wrote on his site a long time ago. Like 10 years ago. He would put down a lot of personal things in that blog, and a lot of things relating to his relationship or lack there of, with his mother.

I remember him saying things such as she was missing the mother gene.
That for a few years she didn't even have her childrens phone numbers.
There was a remembrance of something about a friends father who in witnessing an incident between Kris and Gunnar, stepped in and took Gunnar with home with him telling Kris he wasn't leaving Gunnar with her. The friends father then offered to let Gunnar stay there as long as he wanted or whenever he wanted. That story wasn't really about his mother, so there weren't many details it was mainly the friends father and about how he felt finally having someone who really cared and was concerned and spoke up for him against his mother when he was to young to.

There was something with Tracy I saw where she said she resolved some issues she had regarding Kris and Rick's marriage/divorce. Being older more mature, and hearing her mothers side of things helped ease some of that. She grew to understand it wasn't always easy having to raise 4 kids basically on your own because your husbands out of town all the time and you never see him. Not to mention things that were probably happening on the road as well.

But then isn't it always implied that Rick needing to be on the road so much because of all the spending Kris was doing?

I feel sorry for Sam. It seems like for him he had been like a forgotten child. Taken away from his parents with custody given to his grandparents. Seperated from his siblings. His dad who he barely knows because of his parents fighting dies when he's just 12 and his mothers an raving alcoholic who has driven the other 3 children out of the house.

"But then isn't it always implied that Rick needing to be on the road so much because of all the spending Kris was doing?"

I read that he bought them a new home and while trying to get their finances back on track she was supposed to spend no more than $10,000 on new furnishings but instead spent $100,000, even though she knew they couldn't afford that. That was probably like a million dollars in today's money.

I guess they were just wrong for each other and things went from bad to worse. Kris' young age probably was a factor too, but I can't say for sure. I married at 17, and am still married forty one years later.

wow 100,000 dollars. I don't think I could spend that much if I tried.

Thanks for the story. I knew I had heard a few of wld spending excess but I couldn't think of any to back up my qustion about her spending so I put implied, since I could 't think of anything to back it up.

And with Rick playing only smaller venues you know how many concerts he'd have to put on to cover that cost! No wonder he was always on the road.

I bet neither of them were very good with handling finances since neither one of them had to give it a second thought while growing up.

I also had heard Ricks kids say about him that he was kinda child-like in that it seemed like he never fully grew up. I think that is the worst I've ever heard his kids say about him.

It's strange that David seems to have did well financially and Ricky didn't. That could have been because of Kris, but who knows. Some people are just better at finances than others. I read that David straightened out Ricky's will and the children are taken care of financially because of David financial sense. Ozzie seemed to have controlled the boys even as adults.

I heard Gunnar say that after Ricky died and before they had success with musically, the twins were actually living out of their car.
Gunnar praised Dave for straightening things out leagally, Dave was the execator of Ricks will, and said that if it wasn't for Dave they (Rick's kids) wouldn't have had anything.

The kids were really lucky to have Dave looking out for them.

It was Gunnar. Here's the clip from the thread re: Celebrity Fit Club and his visit with Kris with the therapist there with them.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=162898

It's kind of sad, really. :confused:

I guess that's why I've always had the utmost respect for the offspring of Rick and Kris. I mean, these kids had every excuse to be slackers, with the problems with their mom and then the horrible tragedy with their dad, yet have all of them have turned out to be decent, hard working and successful in their own lives.

Kudos to Tracy, Matt, Gunnar and Sam. *applause*


Yeah, they are great "kids" (not sure if I should use the word kids though since their in their 40s - except Sam who's 34). Sam looks A LOT like Rick, don't you think!?

It's strange that David seems to have did well financially and Ricky didn't. That could have been because of Kris, but who knows. Some people are just better at finances than others. I read that David straightened out Ricky's will and the children are taken care of financially because of David financial sense. Ozzie seemed to have controlled the boys even as adults.

Yeah I've gotten that impression from the bios that Dave was the rock of the family - esp. after Ozzie's passing.

I used to live next door to June in Sherman Oaks and we still keep in touch. Her real name is Margaret, and June Blair was always her stage name. She did many movies and television shows (Rabbit Trap, Bat Masterson, Sea Hunt, etc.) I never asked her exactly why they divorced, but I do know that June is a very strong willed and independant woman. She grew up in foster homes and started working as a model and pin up girl at a very young age, 16-17 I think. (I remember her telling me about the first time she saw herself on a billboard in a motor oil advertisement and how it overwhelmed her.) My guess is that she was not the sterotypical housewife having had to support and make career decisions for herself early on. Basically, she's not the type to be told what to do without asking why and making her own suggestions. Today she is a happy Christian woman who works tirelessly in the animal rescue scene. She has two grown sons (both from her marriage to David) and a granddaughter. She has never remarried, but is still a vibrant and beautiful woman.

Thanks decoman for sharing that information about June. I've often wondered what happened to her after the show. I'm glad she is doing well. I hope she knows she still has many fans.

I love June. The name "Margaret" does not seem to fit her, but regardless, a rose by any other name. Thanks for the great info.

I never knew anything about June's life before Dave, but I sure enjoy her on the show. A beautiful woman, I can certainly see why Dave was attracted to her. I wish all former relatives, friends and acquaintances of the Nelsons carried themselves with as much dignity and grace as June does.

Thanks decoman for sharing that information about June. I've often wondered what happened to her after the show. I'm glad she is doing well. I hope she knows she still has many fans.
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