I think the Phantom Killer of Texarkana who murdered five people back in 1946 would be a great choice for UM to do, mainly because the killer was never caught.

Yes the Phanton Killer would be nice, I've been reading alot about it (it's close to where I live sorta). Also the Michigan Child Murders would be nice to see. And as always Ive stated before I would love to see them profile the case of Mary Rachel Trlica, Lisa Renee Wilson, and Julie Ann Moseley who went missing two days before Christmas.

The Mad Gasser of Mattoon is pretty creepy and would make for an interesting segment even though it happened in the 1940's. Its not far from where I live:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mad_Gasser_of_Mattoon

Great avatar Joshypiano...:lol:

Here's one from my home state: The murder of law professor Mary Jo Frug. On April 4, 1991, she was stabbed to death near her Cambridge residence.

It has never been determined whether Mary's murder was a random act of violence or committed by someone she knew. Therefore, the case is undoubtedly Unsolved Mysteries-material!

The Mad Gasser of Mattoon is pretty creepy and would make for an interesting segment even though it happened in the 1940's. Its not far from where I live:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mad_Gasser_of_Mattoon

Great avatar Joshypiano...:lol:

That IS pretty creepy. My husband has worked up near Mattoon, but I'd never heard of that until now.

I always thought Wallace Fard Muhammad would make a good segment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Fard_Muhammad

I have two that I've recently discovered that I think are interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Murray

I'm not sure if she's been mentioned before, but there are lots of interesting aspects to Maura's case. I'd like to learn more, but at this point, I'm leaning towards suicide...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pichler

This one is *really* interesting to me. I know his family suspects foul play in this one. I remember this kid playing James Van Der Beek's younger brother in Varsity Blues. He was actually one of my favorite parts of the movie. At this point, there are, like, no clues as to what happened to him. I'd like to see some more coverage of this case...

Yeah I know about the murray case. Her Official Website has some great info on it.

http://www.mauramurraymissing.com

Actually, I think suicide is one of the least likely scenarios for Maura Murray. I'm split between foul play (there are a number of missing women/girls in the NH/VT area) or a Kristi Krebs sort of situation (2nd accident caused a break of some kind and she wandered off).

Cases I'd like to see:
Connie Smith missing from a summer camp in 1952

Suzanne Jovin-murdered Yale student

Kathleen Flynn-murdered in CT in 1986 behind her school athletic fields (sort of like Joyce McLain, only even younger)

Bianca Lebron-kidnapped from her school in Bridgeport CT in 2001

Raoul Wallenberg-The Swedish diplomat who vanished in the gulag system during WWII after saving 10s of thousands of Hungarian Jews

You're So Vain-A light-hearted look at the potential subjects of the Carly Simon song/possibly with a You Ought to Know/Alanis Morrisette segue. :crazy:
-Necco

I think the Phantom Killer of Texarkana who murdered five people back in 1946 would be a great choice for UM to do, mainly because the killer was never caught.

That's a very good idea. They made a movie about it in 76 called "The Town That Dreaded Sundown". It was a great movie--low budget but good, genuine scare tactics. You can't find it at Blockbuster anymore either.

The Clinton Avenue Five.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26252989/

The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald is quite interesting. To this day, the case remains shrouded in mystery. It's shocking to think such a large ship would sink in the Great Lakes.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/research/2007-11-12-edmund-fitzgerald_N.htm

The disappearance of Barbara Newhall Follett, a child genius and author who met a mysterious end at a young age.

The disappearance of Mary Lang. There's nothing on the web about this case, but it's been over 20 years and only her purse has been found. She was a secretary for a lawyer in Hays, Kansas, and one day in the middle of the afternoon disappeared. They found her car with the driver's side door open and awhile later found her purse.

The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald is quite interesting. To this day, the case remains shrouded in mystery. It's shocking to think such a large ship would sink in the Great Lakes.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/research/2007-11-12-edmund-fitzgerald_N.htm

That's a good one....sans the Gordon Lightfoot song, though. :p

Here's a few ideas from the Michigan area that I think are begging to be profiled.

1. The murder of the Robison family down in Hart in 1968.
http://archives.record-eagle.com/2003/may/22murdr.htm

2. Robert Alen Dale, Jr, Missing since 1996 from Sault Ste Marie, MI

3. Doe Network Casefile 948UMMI. Dude was found in the Hiawatha Nat'l Forest by the Mack Bridge in 1966 and never ID'd

4. Doe Network Casefile 60DFMI

5. And last but surely not least, the Michigan Child Murders

The West Memphis Three.
The brutal rape of Girl X who was left for dead in the Cabrini-Green Projects.

I would like also to have a new segment to debunk internet myths and urban legends.

The mysterious deaths and disappearances of people with ties to the Clintons ala Vince Foster, Ron Brown, Keith Coney (had info on Ives and Henry case. As soon as he came forward, he was run down during a high-speed chase while on a motorcycle, Keith Mckaskle (info on Ives and Henry. Stabbed to death), Ed Willey (Kathleen's husband. Clinton assaulted her and raped Juanita Broderick), kathy Ferguson, Bill Shelton, Shelly Kelly, Bill Wise, Mary Mahoon, Christine Mirzayan, Alan Whither, Bill Shelton (kathy Ferguson's boyfriend. found on her grave with a gunshot wound to the BACK of the head. Ruled a suicide), Dr. Roland Rogers, Stanley Heard, Steve Dickson, jerry Luther Parks, Paul Wilcher, Sgt. Brian Haney, Sgt.Tim Sabel, Maj. William Barkley, Capt. Scott Reynolds (bizarre), Paula Grober (affair with Clinton and his speech interpreter for the death. Died in a car crash with no witnesses and no other cars involved), Ian Spiro, R Montgomer Raiser, Victor Raiser, Jordan Kettleson, Richard Winters, James Milam, jeff Rhodes, Greg Collins (the last 5 all have ties to the Ives and Henfry case).

Henry and Ives have already been profiled (stumbled upon drug running tied to Clinton at Mena airfield, as has Danny Casalaro (was investigating drug trade at Mena airfield).

Gennifer Flowers was smart by going public immediately after her apartment was broken into. That may have saved her life.

Here http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp is the Clinton body count list.

UM did a segment on Vince Foster giving quite serious attention to the possibility that his suicide seemed suspicious. One thing they didn't go into, but is interesting: look at pictures of the televised suicide of Budd Dwyer. They are available online. WARNING: GORY! The point is, Dwyer was filmed killing himself the same way Foster supposedly did, and there were copious amounts of blood. Very little blood was found at Foster's death scene.

Here http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp is the Clinton body count list.

UM did a segment on Vince Foster giving quite serious attention to the possibility that his suicide seemed suspicious. One thing they didn't go into, but is interesting: look at pictures of the televised suicide of Budd Dwyer. They are available online. WARNING: GORY! The point is, Dwyer was filmed killing himself the same way Foster supposedly did, and there were copious amounts of blood. Very little blood was found at Foster's death scene.

Foster's body was dumped. there were no shoe prints around the body but there were van tire tracks. there is far more to that Clinto body count list than Snopes is letting on. generally Snopes is right on the money but for things like this, I take their findings with a grain of salt. There is WAY too much of a coincidence in each of those deaths for the Clintons not to be involved. BTW, I also think Gary Conditt had Chandra Levy knocked off so she would keep quiet about their affair.

Chandra Levy and Joyce Chiang remain unsolved cases which deserve attention.

I haven't decided whether or not I totally buy the Clinton Body Count, but I do definitely believe the Ives/Henry, Coney, McKaskle, Winters, Milam, Rhodes, and Collins deaths are definitely related. Maybe a segment on just that? It would refresh an old case and provide new information while being different from the original "Friends Til the End" segment.

Chandra Levy and Joyce Chiang remain unsolved cases which deserve attention.

I believe UM did cover these women's murders during the Lifetime years, suggesting that a serial killer may be lurking in the Dupont Circle area of D.C. Apparently there was a 3rd women (whose name escapes me) who was also murdered near that area. The serial killer angle was that all 3 women had black hair and ties to the fed. gov't (not surprising given the location, but I think it was actually more specific than that, like they had all served as interns). Speaking of interns, there was a former Clinton White House intern who was also working at a Starbucks in Georgetown, when she and several other patrons were murdered in the early morning hours. The crime occured shortly before the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke and went unsolved for a period of time, leading to rumours that it was a botched hit where "they" got the wrong intern. Eventually, I believe someone confessed to the crime, although there are still questions surrounding the case.

As far as cases I'd like to see profiled:

Disappearance of Brian Shaffer - www.findbrianshaffer.com

Disappearance of Ray Gricar - Penna. DA who went antiquing and just vanished.

Here http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp is the Clinton body count list.

UM did a segment on Vince Foster giving quite serious attention to the possibility that his suicide seemed suspicious. One thing they didn't go into, but is interesting: look at pictures of the televised suicide of Budd Dwyer. They are available online. WARNING: GORY! The point is, Dwyer was filmed killing himself the same way Foster supposedly did, and there were copious amounts of blood. Very little blood was found at Foster's death scene.

I saw the Dwyer video. VERY DISTURBING. That night I had trouble walking through my own house without making sure the lights were all on.



I don't think Chang and Levy are related cases. I think each was killed for a different reason. There is a strong case that Levy was killed by Conditt or someone hired by Conditt.

I saw the Dwyer video. VERY DISTURBING. That night I had trouble walking through my own house without making sure the lights were all on.



I don't think Chang and Levy are related cases. I think each was killed for a different reason. There is a strong case that Levy was killed by Conditt or someone hired by Conditt.

The Dwyer video is really disturbing. When it comes to the interns, I can't say for certain they are related, but the coincidences are one too many to blow the theory off.

Raoul Wallenberg-The Swedish diplomat who vanished in the gulag system during WWII after saving 10s of thousands of Hungarian Jews


Definitely one I'd like to see, as well as the West Memphis Three. Also:

The murder of Lindsay Harris, whose partial remains were found near an exit ramp of I-55 near Divernon, Illinois in 2005 (the remains were identified in 2008).

The disappearance of Mary Shotwell Little from Atlanta, Georgia in 1965.

The serial murders of prostitutes in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

The disappearance of Robert Lewis Christian, from Wisconsin in 1977 (from the Charley Project).

The Robbie Romero case which happend in Santa Fe, NM Robbie was reported missing in the summer of 2000. Many people believe he is dead and there have been various theories about the family being involved.

In re: Chandra Levy

The Washington Post just did a twelve-part story about Chandra Levy. In the years since her death, they've done quite a bit of digging. From my understanding, DC Police do not feel that Gary Condit was involved in her disappearance/murder in any way. It seems that their prime suspect is Ingmar Guandique, a Hispanic man who was attacking and raping women at knifepoint in an area close to where Chandra's body was found. He is currently in federal prison for these crimes.

There's a lot of interesting circumstantial evidence linking this man to Chandra's death: He lost his job the day she disappeared, he was seen sporting a fat lip and scratches on his throat around the same time, and he made a confession to one of his cellmates that he stabbed Chandra and drug her into Rock Creek Park, the area where her remains were eventually found.

To me, there is no doubt that this investigation was botched. The fact that the authorites placed SO much focus on Gary Condit essentially assured that they were going to let key evidence slip away. I'm fairly confident that Condit is *not* their man in this case.

Read it for yourself here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/specials/chandra/

In any case, while the similarities between Joyce Chiang and Chandra Levy are interesting, I do not believe the cases are related. They disappeared in two different locations of Washington, D.C. at two different times of day (Chandra during the day, Joyce at night). Joyce's body was disposed in the Chesapeke while Chandra's was found in Rock Creek Park.

I have two that I've recently discovered that I think are interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Murray

I'm not sure if she's been mentioned before, but there are lots of interesting aspects to Maura's case. I'd like to learn more, but at this point, I'm leaning towards suicide...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pichler

This one is *really* interesting to me. I know his family suspects foul play in this one. I remember this kid playing James Van Der Beek's younger brother in Varsity Blues. He was actually one of my favorite parts of the movie. At this point, there are, like, no clues as to what happened to him. I'd like to see some more coverage of this case...


Joe Pichler also played one of the boys with a crush on a young Tanya Raymonde in "Children on their birthdays".


I was also surprised to read about him, he seemed such a promising young actor.

The New Bedford serial killer would be an ideal case for UM. In 1988, The unknown killer struck in New Bedford, Massachusetts, killing women and disposing of their bodies alongside highways.

There were at least two suspects, one of whom is now deceased. The other was indicted, but was eventually released due to a lack of evidence.

I think the new UM should do a "Final Appeal" segment for Dave Davis.

I believe he is totally innocent in the death of Shannon Mohr.

Really? Wow. I thought this guy was as guilty as sin. What makes you think he's innocent? Do you think it was just a horrible accident or that someone else killed her?

(Please read this as genuine interest in your opinion/interpretation of the situation, not anything negative.)
-Necco

Sadly, the Caylee Anthony case has dragged on long enough to qualify.

The Boy in the Box mystery http://americasunknownchild.net/ should also be covered.

wow this is a great thread. I would say the phoenix lights part two: but it was found that someone was caught sending balloons into the night skies with cheap walmart/camping flares or some type of lighting equipment tied to the balloons. that's the only local event that I can think of. We had the baseline serial killer....but the police have arrested a suspect despite the fact that another man confessed to killing one of the nine reported victims. the baseline killer was a huge thing in phoenix.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseline_Killer

I would like to see more on government cases...especially contreversy surrounding politics/bureaucracy. maybe some more recent celeb cases. anyone think of any? I can't seem to. maybe heath ledger? I don't really know the details of his death though.

wow this is a great thread. I would say the phoenix lights part two: but it was found that someone was caught sending balloons into the night skies with cheap walmart/camping flares or some type of lighting equipment tied to the balloons. that's the only local event that I can think of. We had the baseline serial killer....but the police have arrested a suspect despite the fact that another man confessed to killing one of the nine reported victims. the baseline killer was a huge thing in phoenix.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseline_Killer

I would like to see more on government cases...especially contreversy surrounding politics/bureaucracy. maybe some more recent celeb cases. anyone think of any? I can't seem to. maybe heath ledger? I don't really know the details of his death though.

That guy looks like Ray Lewis. I'm sorry but that's what I thought when I saw his photo.

1. Natalee Holloway. More recent research beyond the ABC story.
2. Taylor Behl. Was it erotic asphyxiation?
3. Tara Calico updates.
4. Columbine High School. Why did they do it? Research all possible theories including "third shooter."
5. Oklahoma City Bombing. Middle Eastern terrorist related?

maybe heath ledger? I don't really know the details of his death though.

As with Elvis and David Kennedy, Heath Ledger died of an overdose under suspicious circumstances. In all cases, things were cleaned up and possibly removed before authorities ever saw the scene. Heath Ledger has a lot of additional intrigue in that he was mentally unstable and it's speculated that his role as the Joker in the Batman movie drove him insane--classic UM material.

As with Elvis and David Kennedy, Heath Ledger died of an overdose under suspicious circumstances. In all cases, things were cleaned up and possibly removed before authorities ever saw the scene. Heath Ledger has a lot of additional intrigue in that he was mentally unstable and it's speculated that his role as the Joker in the Batman movie drove him insane--classic UM material.
cool...thanks for the info. I never really heard much about the details of his death. I liked the few movies that I've seen him in. Haven't seen batman yet though. I like those UM segs like kurt cobain, B.I.G., tupac shakur, etc.

Yanno, I still think it's suspect that Mary-Kate Olson agreed to cooperate with the investigation of Heath Ledger's death ONLY AFTER she was given immunity....

I smell something fishy. And it's not Dislimb's feet. :P

1. Natalee Holloway. More recent research beyond the ABC story.
2. Taylor Behl. Was it erotic asphyxiation?
3. Tara Calico updates.
4. Columbine High School. Why did they do it? Research all possible theories including "third shooter."
5. Oklahoma City Bombing. Middle Eastern terrorist related?
As far as Columbine, those kids did it because their school was one of the first to teach moral relativism (i.e. just because something may not be right for you doesn't mean it's not right for me and if you upset me or offend me, I have the right to strike back). A prominent psychologist (I don;t recall her name) was at Columbine a few months before the shooting and warned school officials that because the school began teaching moral relativism, there would be an event such as a shooting at the school).

Oklahoma City had Middle eastern terrorism written all over it. Shortly after the bombing, Bill Clinton (who was at some kind of meeting or engagement) said "I hope it's not middle eastern terrorism". Makes you wonder why the guy would immediately think that (and waht did he have to lose if it was?). Also, when the raided McVey's apartment after the bombing, the y found several Iraqi phone numbers. Also, John Doe #2 was Hussein Al Husseini (a former member o fthe Iraqi republican guard).

how about a segment on the mysterious death of What's My Line? panelist and Hollywood journalist Dorothy Killgallen. Many think she was murdered as she made many enemies in Hollywood with her columns.

Here is a fascinating Canadian case from the area that I originally am from: http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,221.0.html

Court TV Canada did a feature on the Ethier case but it remains a real unsolved mystery and would be a very appropriate case for the new UM to tackle.

Nostradamus--they may have done him but he needs an update pointing out how Saddam Hussein corresponds to the blue-turban king and Osama bin Laden to the white turban king Nostradamus predicted. He correctly predicted the length of Hussein's reign and that bin Laden would cause more trouble for longer.

I was disappointed/relieved by the Great King of Terror. Whether you reckon 1999 and seven months as July 1999 or July 2000, the Great King of Terror seems to have been a rotten no-show. :livid:

Evelyn Hernandez murder case
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Hernandez

This may be a long shot, but I always thought Jack-the-Ripper and a lesser known serial murder case from Scotland, Bible John.

Bible John was a man who was known for quoting Bible verses when with his victims (according to eyewitnesses before one of the murders). He selected victims from Glasgow's ballrooms in the late 60s. He is believed to have disapproved of the ballroom's clientele. He was never caught, had a few suspects, though.

Also, more Psychic Detective cases would be nice (Peter Hurkos, etc.)

Cheers

how about a segment on the mysterious death of What's My Line? panelist and Hollywood journalist Dorothy Killgallen. Many think she was murdered as she made many enemies in Hollywood with her columns.

That would be interesting, especially since her murder has connections to the JFK assassination.

Allegedly, she was going to break open the JFK assassination case prior to her death.

Take it with a grain of salt, but her death was listed as one of the "mysterious deaths" in Marrs book Crossfire that was part of the basis for Oliver Stone's controversial JFK film.

Suicide in jail over a D.U.I? I think something is fishy.

http://allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2008/10/04/20553711.aspx

This story should be covered - a very elaborate (creative even) bank robbery

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_100108WAB_monroe_robber_floating_escape_TP.ce3930c1.html

The Caylee Anthony case (disappearance of three-year-old Florida girl, not reported for over a month, her hairs found with decomposing body smell and large amounts of chloroform in her mother's car) gets weirder and weirder.

Casey Anthony, the mother, claimed she left Caylee at an apartment at the Sawgrass Apartment complex, with someone named Zenaida Gonzalez--NOT a name Casey would just make up. Of a number of people with that name, only one Zenaida Gonzalez had any connection with Sawgrass Apartments. That one has been found and questioned. The apartment in question was vacant for five months including the time Caylee disappeared, but Zenaida Gonzalez did look at the apartment and fill out an application regarding it. She denied any contact with or recognition of the Anthonys, and maintains Casey picked her name from either going through the apartments' trash or some connection with their office. She lost her job, has been unable to find another one, and is suing Casey for defamation.

Now, it gets weird. There is a story circulating that Caylee's father may be a young man named Jesus Ortiz, killed in a car crash about a year ago. Coincidentally (or not!) Jesus Ortiz's mother's name was Zenaida Gonzalez, or Ortiz, either through marriage or through the Hispanic custom to have two last names. Supposedly, the Ortiz family was very surprised at this suggestion and knew nothing of J. O. possibly being Caylee's father, yet supposedly Zenaida (Gonzalez, or Ortiz?) posted on a grandparents' rights newsgroup shortly before Jesus's death, complaining bitterly of being unable to see her grandchild!

Casey now says the Zenaida Gonzalez who is suing her is not the right one, and police are refusing to follow leads she has provided! So, is Casey mental, is Zenaida, or are they both? Is it possible that Casey saw/heard Zenaida Gonzalez's name in connection with an apartment complex she had visited, and somehow confused her in her deranged mind with Zenaida Ortiz? Or is Zenaida Gonzalez really Zenaida Ortiz and is almost as crazy as Casey, thinking no one will make the connection between her and Caylee? Since the Ortiz family has been located, has anyone ASKED THEM if this Zenaida Gonzalez is the same one who is Jesus's mother, and if that person was the same one who made the grandparents' rights posts? Is this being looked into AT ALL? In either case, it's clear that no such person occupied the apartment during the time in question, but there is some connection which has not been properly followed up.

P. S. Since I can find absolutely NO news items on this--not even a transcript from a tabloid talk show--I contacted the attorney representing the Ortiz family. Let's see if they provide any answers.

After looking into this for some time, the only items linking the family of Jesus Ortiz, alleged father of Caylee Anthony, to anyone by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez all lead back to blogs, message boards, or newsgroup posts. Since his obituary is over a year old, it is unavailable except through paying for search services, but a couple of people have posted the supposed contents online. Here's what it says:

"Jesus Escobar Marquez Ortiz, age 20, of Orlando, passed away on Tuesday May 8, 2007. He was born to Jesus A. Ortiz and Olga I. Marquez in Humacao, Puerto Rico on September 8, 1986. He is survived by his parents and sister Olga M. Ortiz. Visitation will be held from 5-9 p.m. on Monday May 14, 2007. Funeral services will be held Tuesday May 15, 2007 at Iglesia de Dios Pentecostal, Orlando. Interment will follow at Greenwood Cemetery, Orlando."

Now, if this is the genuine obituary with the correct information, I don't see how anyone can produce either Zenaida or Gonzalez from Olga I. Marquez. Who comes up with this stuff?

I think UM should do a segment on Galen Cook's investigation of William Pratt "Wolfgang" Gossett as D.B. Cooper. Galen is currently writing a book on why he think Pratt was really Cooper.

Suicide in jail over a D.U.I? I think something is fishy.

http://allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2008/10/04/20553711.aspx

I was just discussing this with friends earlier today. And everyone agrees that the initial story seems to be BS. That man was talented. ('How do you want it' is one of my fav Tupac tracks) He had a number of projects that he was working on, including a couple film scores. Who jumps from a higher floor in prison? :rolleyes: ..someone did him in. The number of people who were involved or associated with Tupac that have died under mysteries & suspicious circumstances is pretty amazing, and fascinating. They could fill a whole hour just chronicling events and updating facts and details since Tupac's death.

A couple other cases I would like to see profiled.

The Murder of Former Professional Wrestler Dino Bravo - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Bravo - This one has been a head scratcher to us old school pro wrestling heads. We know what he was involved in, however the identity of his killer/killers and the person who ordered the hit is still a mystery. Bravo was murdered execution style in his home. He was involved in the lucrative cigarette smuggling business that was going on in Canada at the time, among other things in relation to the Montreal Mafia. It is rumored that Dino was the fall guy for a failed transaction that resulted in a bunch of cocaine dealers being rounded up by the RCMP.

"Dino was found by his wife (holding her little girl who was sleeping) in his chair in front of the TV with 10 bullets in his head. They said there was blood all over the walls and ceiling. His wife managed to compose herself long enough to take her daughter upstairs and put her to bed. It was on a Wednesday night (Hockey Night in Canada) and it was suspected that Dino was shot by a friend who was watching Hockey with him. There was fresh snow and no sign of foot prints and the theory was Dino's friend said he was going to the bathroom or something and then when he came back he shot Dino in the back of the head. This theory was because there was no struggle and also the remote control was just laying loosely in Dino's hand. If the guy had shot Dino from the front of Dino knew it was coming he would have had a death grip on the remote."
http://cybermessageboard.fatcow.com/rporrello/index.php?sid=1e283b4261a9438ff71299fbce9ac4eb


The Death of Bruce Ivins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_E._Ivins --Fairly recent. A suspect in the 2001 Anthrax attacks turns up dead. Yeah they say he took his own life, but still a great case for Unsolved Mysteries.

The Death of former UFC Champion Evan Tanner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Tanner -- Another recent one, the death of Evan Tanner is tailor-made for the new UM as Spike TV's MMA audience continues to grow. His cryptic writings are spooky as well!

Wow, this should be an unsolved mystery!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Collins

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/feb/07/local/me-5769

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/oct/31/local/me-then31

If some of these supposed murder victims were still alive, why did they not contact their families, if any? And remains of all those missing are not accounted for?

I just posted in another thread about Anne Pressley's death. I think this case should be covered if UM decide to focus on new cases.

Oh, that is AWFUL! Last I heard she was improving, and that her resistance to her attacker saved her life! I was hoping she would live to identify who committed this horrible crime! This was the first I heard that she passed away and I am so sorry!!! :crying:

I was hoping too that she would be able to identify her attacker. But a lot of news articles have stated she had serious brain injuries. I kind of think if she had survived she would have had brain damage that would have kept her from identifying her attacker.

Since UM likes to do musician murders a lot..(ie. Mia Zapata, Kurt Cobain)

They should do one on the murder of Rap pioneer Jam Master Jay of Run DMC.

UM should do a segment on child actor Joe Pichler. He disappeared two years ago. Some suspect suicide, while others think he was murdered.

http://www.joepichlermissing.com/3med.html

http://67.19.158.169/forums/showthread.php?t=61494

Since UM likes to do musician murders a lot..(ie. Mia Zapata, Kurt Cobain)

They should do one on the murder of Rap pioneer Jam Master Jay of Run DMC.

I didn't even realize Jam Master Jay was murdered! That's horrific.

UM should do a segment on child actor Joe Pichler. He disappeared two years ago. Some suspect suicide, while others think he was murdered.

http://www.joepichlermissing.com/3med.html

http://67.19.158.169/forums/showthread.php?t=61494

I kind of remember hearing or reading about this case. This would be a good story for UM to cover. I found his myspace it seems some people have hope he alive while others dont'. He seemed to have a lot of talent in Varsity Blues.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=15889827

I think UM should do a segment the Aurora Texas UFO Crash.

I'm adding another case. This one is quite interesting, it's the Redhead Murders. They occurred from 1984 to 1992. All of them involved women from red hair to auburn colored hair. The murders occurred in between Arkansas and Pennsylvania. The women were either strangled, or suffocated. Very creepy case.

Kelly Marie Brownlee, from Michigan. She was 17 years old when she went missing from the local shopping mall after a day of filling out job applications in 1982. A friend's mom saw her there and offered her a ride home, but she declined, since she wanted to fill out more applications. She was living her her boyfriend and his family, after leaving her mother's home, complaining that her step father was abusing her. Prior to her disappearance, friends witnessed bruises on her body and the stepfather has a shaky alibi.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/60dfmi.html

Paige Renkowski, also from Michigan. She was last seen in 1990, pulled over on the side of the expressway, speaking with an unidentified man, in the middle of the afternoon. Later, her car was found in the same location with the engine running, the car unlocked, and her shoes and purse inside. Paige and the man were gone.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/294dfmi.html

Kelly Marie Brownlee, from Michigan. She was 17 years old when she went missing from the local shopping mall after a day of filling out job applications in 1982. A friend's mom saw her there and offered her a ride home, but she declined, since she wanted to fill out more applications. She was living her her boyfriend and his family, after leaving her mother's home, complaining that her step father was abusing her. Prior to her disappearance, friends witnessed bruises on her body and the stepfather has a shaky alibi.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/60dfmi.html

Paige Renkowski, also from Michigan. She was last seen in 1990, pulled over on the side of the expressway, speaking with an unidentified man, in the middle of the afternoon. Later, her car was found in the same location with the engine running, the car unlocked, and her shoes and purse inside. Paige and the man were gone.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/294dfmi.html

Both cases have a lot of interesting points. UM should definetely cover them.

That's a good one....sans the Gordon Lightfoot song, though. :p

And definitely sans the Loreena McKennitt version. :happyface

Kelly Marie Brownlee, from Michigan. She was 17 years old when she went missing from the local shopping mall after a day of filling out job applications in 1982. A friend's mom saw her there and offered her a ride home, but she declined, since she wanted to fill out more applications. She was living her her boyfriend and his family, after leaving her mother's home, complaining that her step father was abusing her. Prior to her disappearance, friends witnessed bruises on her body and the stepfather has a shaky alibi.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/60dfmi.html

TracyLynn, this sounds so familiar. UM didn't do it? Could any other true crimes show have profiled it? Maybe I've just read about it somewhere...


Paige Renkowski, also from Michigan. She was last seen in 1990, pulled over on the side of the expressway, speaking with an unidentified man, in the middle of the afternoon. Later, her car was found in the same location with the engine running, the car unlocked, and her shoes and purse inside. Paige and the man were gone.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/294dfmi.html

Super, duper creepy. Her poor family.

A couple of years ago, I would have desperately wanted to see case from my hometown profiled on UM: the case of Kari Nunemaker. She was abducted January 28, 1991, on her way home from a soccer game, when she stopped her car at a train crossing to wait for a passing train. Her body was found in a local park several days later.

I've moved away in the years since it happened, so I was shocked to learn after the fact that someone had been caught all these years later:
http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/14768797.html

Mott was eventually convicted and sentenced to life. He's already serving life in California. This story still sends chills down my spine. I was Kari's age when she was murdered, and at the same soccer game that night. I sat in front of her, said "hi," the whole bit. Poor, poor girl.

I understand the case against Mott was clinched with DNA evidence. Would have been a perfect story for Cold Case Files.

TracyLynn, this sounds so familiar. UM didn't do it? Could any other true crimes show have profiled it? Maybe I've just read about it somewhere...

I don't *think* UM ever did a segment on Kelly Brownlee, but I could be wrong.

A couple years after she disappeared, I moved to the area and began shopping at the mall from where she disappeared. It was not a high crime area by any stretch.

My kids took preschool swim classes at the Walled Lake high school pool. I worked in Walled Lake, in fact just leaving my job there in 2007 when I moved. My parents still live in Walled Lake in the summers. (They winter in FL now.)

That's one thing that interests me about her case so much. She's 3 or 4 years older than me. I've been in her footsteps for years. I've seen all the places she's seen. I've been all the places she's been.

The construction of new shopping centers and neighborhoods and condos has just exploded there since the time she went missing. If she was killed and dumped, or buried anywhere in the surrounding area, there's a chance that remains would have been found. Considering the fact that she was living (happily, as far as I know) with her boyfriend and was filling out job applications, and had no known transportation, I don't think she left on her own.

(in order of priority)

1. Why won't Eliza Dushku call me back?

2. Abe Vigoda - Alive or dead?

3. Why is the SEC so much better than all the other conferences?

4. Where does the love of God go when the waves turn the minutes to hours?:happyface

The Mad Gasser of Mattoon is pretty creepy and would make for an interesting segment even though it happened in the 1940's. Its not far from where I live:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mad_Gasser_of_Mattoon


That is exactly the case I was coming here to post! I read about it in that book "Weird Illinois," and it totally gave me the creeps. Even though the name "Mad Gasser" is kind of funny.

That's cool that you live near Mattoon. I live in a small town in Southeastern Illinois. My husband went to EIU for a semester, also close to Mattoon.

Cases I would like to see:

Heather Teague (http://www.whereisheatherteague.com/)
- disappeared in 1995 from a Kentucky beach. The only suspect committed suicide before he could give any info.

The Boy In The Box (http://americasunknownchild.net/)- Most of you probably know the story.

On the Illinois State Police website, there is a page of unsolved cases. http://www.isp.state.il.us/crime/unsolved.cfm

From Jan-March, three unidentified murdered females were found in a relatively close area. This was in 2002, when I was in college nearby. I've always wondered if the cases were related or not. I don't really have a lot of info about them, other than what is on the website.

I remember a story from quite awhile back, and not really sure of the exact location anymore.

I believe it was somewhere in the south, and happened during the late 80's.

Anyway, in this particular family, all the kids remember being told while growing up never to mess with an old cedar chest or trunk that was in their parent's closet, and they never did.

All their lives, even after they were adults, they were told this.

Then after their last surviving parent, their mom, died, first thing they did after the funeral was dive into that trunk.

All it had was some papers, and other old general vintage stuff, nothing really earth shattering, and they were confused as to why such insistence was placed on them to leave the trunk alone.

But at the bottom they found a little box, and when they opened it, they found the remains of a dead baby wearing a disintegrated white dress.

None of the now grown kids remembered their mom being pregnant and then just not being pregnant. None of them recalled a sibling dying.

On our local news, because we lived several states away at the time, it was only given a brief mention, sort of like "here's something happening someplace else" kind of treatment.

I would like to see UM profile the story of Martha Parmer and her sister Linda Harrison. They were murdered in Pasadena, Texas in 1995.

Yanno, I still think it's suspect that Mary-Kate Olson agreed to cooperate with the investigation of Heath Ledger's death ONLY AFTER she was given immunity....

I smell something fishy. And it's not Dislimb's feet. :P


I have to agree. Something doesn't seem right about the Mary-Kate connection.

Heath Ledger's death

Paige Renkowski, also from Michigan. She was last seen in 1990, pulled over on the side of the expressway, speaking with an unidentified man, in the middle of the afternoon. Later, her car was found in the same location with the engine running, the car unlocked, and her shoes and purse inside. Paige and the man were gone.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/294dfmi.html

That second composite is certainly scary enough to put it up there with UM's scariest.

99-year-old unsolved murder with coverup: http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_11751568

I've scrolled through most of the threads but if these have already been mentioned, please bear with me....

There is the missing persons case of Asha Degree....
http://www.amw.com/missing_children/brief.cfm?id=24807

And the unidentified Taman Shud case....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taman_Shud_Case

Derrick Engebretson.

Can you imagine a more horrible twist of fate than to emerge from being lost in the woods only to be abducted by a child killer?


QUOTE
Engebretson was looking for a Christmas tree in the Rocky Point area of Winema National Forest in Klamath County, Oregon on December 5, 1998. He wandered away from his father and grandfather during the day and apparently became lost. Engebretson has never been seen again.
Extensive air and ground searches yielded few clues as to Engebretson's whereabouts. A blizzard hit the area the evening he was reported missing and obliterated any tracks that might have been there; the weather also hampered search efforts.

For years, it was feared that the child had frozen to death in a snowstorm. But law enforcement officials now say they think Engebretson found his way to the roadside, where he was picked up by a man who would later become the state's most notorious pedophile, Frank J.Milligan, 36.
In July 2001, Milligan pleaded guilty to charges of attempted murder, kidnapping, sodomy and sexual abuse after he lured a 10-year-old boy at a Dallas park in 2000 into his black Honda Civic by offering the child $100 to mow his lawn.

Milligan raped and strangled the boy, slashed his throat and left him for dead. The child survived. At the time of the attack, Milligan was out on bail in a sexual assault case of an 11-year-old boy in Seaside.

Milligan surfaced as a person of interest in the Engebretson disappearance after a fellow inmate said claimed that Milligan had bragged about abducting and killing Derrick Engebretson, sources close to the case told The Oregonian.

When confronted, Milligan, who by then faced 36 years behind bars, confessed to killing murdering Engebretson and agreed to lead detectives to the place where he claimed to have buried the boy's body, law enforcement sources said.

But nothing was found, and Milligan later recanted the confession, according to police and Engebretson's family.

"He took them to the spot where he said he had buried the body, then he didn't do much to help them find it," said Lori Engebretson, Derrick's mother. "He said, 'Well, I guess I don't know where it's at. It was night, dark, and I was trying to hurry.'"

Based on evidence found at the scene, family members think believe Derrick was making a snow angel near the road and was abducted by someone who happened to be driving by. "We think it was a crime of opportunity," Lori Engebretson said.

One witness reported seeing a man struggle with a boy near the road but didn't stop because he assumed that the man and they boy were father and son, she said.

Milligan "has not been charged with any crime regarding this, so it would be premature for me to say anything," Pecyna of the state police said.

Ronald Coyne was born on July 15, 1943. When he was a boy, his parents - Christians - moved to Sapulpa, Oklahoma, in the USA. In 1950, making Ronald about 7 years old, he and his brother slipped out into the yard to play one day while they and their mother were all supposed to be napping. Playing with a piece of wire, Ronald accidentally swung it in such a way that it pierced his right eyeball.

Within two weeks Ronnie's eye became infected, and so the eyeball was surgically removed. He was fitted with a plastic eye to replace it. He was, of course, totally blind in that eye then.

Sometime during the next 10 months Ronnie had an opportunity to attend Vacation Bible School. He was 'saved' there, and happily told his family about it when he returned. In June of 1951, his family attended a Christian Revival and Healing Campaign being held at the local Jr. High School auditorium. It was sponsered by the Assembly of God Church in Sapulpa. The Pastor was Rev. Lonnie Osborn. His sister Daisy Gillock was the evangelist.

Daisy invited people to come forward and be prayed for if they wished to receive healing. Ronnie went up because his tonsils were giving him lots of problems. As Daisy prayed to Jesus for him, she also noticed an unusual grayness in one of his eyes, so she prayed to Jesus for his vision to be restored in that eye also, not realizing that there was no eye there to heal.

Though I've never heard about the tonsils, the eye began to see. It was praised as a miracle, but then praised all the more as it became known that it was a prosthetic eye. It was a genuine and incontestable miracle from Jesus if a person with a plastic eye could actually see from that eye socket.

Local papers pickd up the story. Skeptical reporters began to arrive, wishing to test the boy. Sometimes they allowed to test him with Ronnie's parents out of the room, and with his good eye securely covered to their satisfaction, etc. And he was tested in all sorts of manners many times as time passed. All of the clippings I've seen posted reported that Ronnie Coyne could see pretty well. He could read words, identify objects and colors, etc. It seemed his plastic eye allowed him to read as well as a boy his age could be expected to read.

It is reported that, at first anyway, the ability could be somewhat supressed for short times when especially skeptical people were around. His mother reportedly believed that this was from Satan trying to discredit God's great work. But even then, the eye would return to seeing soon enough. Reporter after reporter and doctor after doctor tested him and believed, allowing that somehow the boy was seeing.

I would like to see a segment on the Smoky Mountain disappearances:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/martin_dennis.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gibson_trenny.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/melton_thelma.html

LaVena Johnson was a Private First Class in the United States Army. She was found dead July 19, 2005

The autopsy report and photographs revealed Johnson had a broken nose, black eye, loose teeth, burns from a corrosive chemical on her genitals, and a gunshot that seemed inconsistent with suicide. Several reporters have suspected that the chemical burns were to destroy DNA evidence of a rape

Johnson's death was officially ruled a suicide by the Department of Defense. However, her father became suspicious when he saw her body in the funeral home and decided to investigate. The Army initially refused to release information, but did so under the Freedom of Information Act after Representative William Lacy Clay, Jr. raised questions about it at the congressional hearings over Pat Tillman's death.

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On the morning of March 4, 1998, a search party went in search of National Guard Captain Gordon Hess. His company commander had ordered the men to scour the base in Fort Knox, Kentucky; Hess had gone missing the previous evening.

They found the man, lying at the bottom of the ravine, dead. When he was rolled over his face was purple; rigor mortis had set in. The four men that found him did not see the knife that was later to appear in crime scene photos. All they saw was a 38-year-old man with more than 20 stab wounds.

The autopsy was performed the following day by Doctor Peter W. Schilke1. He found:

6 stab wounds to the neck
2 stab wounds which pierced the heart
1 that sliced the liver
4 that pierced the lung
26 Stab wounds all told.

Dr. Shilke pronounced the death a Suicide. His reasoning was:

Hess's money was still in his wallet.
The wounds to the neck were superficial
The wounds to the chest were hesitation wounds2.
There were no defensive wounds, the wounds normally found to the forearms and hands that indicate a person is fighting for their life.
The handling of the crime scene was less than exemplary. Within two days Army Command had ordered the area buried in two tons of dirt, along with any contradictory evidence. According to the Army, this was done to contain the biohazard of blood and viscera that Hess's unfortunate demise had left.

The Army dumped two tons of dirt on the crime scene of an open investigation. One that had already been contaminated by several groups of Army Personnel.

The family was not entirely convinced of the Army's appraisal of the situation, and a second autopsy was performed by Dr. Sung-ook Baik. He ruled that Hess's death was a homicide.

Since the two autopsies performed, the family of the deceased has contracted an independent investigation into the death of Captain Hess.

Summary of Findings By Independent Review
The knife wounds to the heart and lungs are fatal wounds. It is unlikely Hess could have continued in his efforts after he had made even one. He would have been incapacitated.

Hess, an EMT, would not have needed to stab himself so many times to take his own life.
Two of the knife wounds land in the same area, which is inconsistent with suicide.
The knife wounds are inconsistent with hesitation wounds.

The knife that was entered into evidence by the Army as the method of death had no blood on it.
The knife found at the scene had a 2 1/2 inch non-locking blade, while some of Hess's stab wounds are 3 inches deep and perforated bone.

Did they ever do Bob Crane's murder? http://www.crimemagazine.com/bobcrane.htm

Also, can ANYBODY help me remember a celebrity murder from around 1972-1973? I thought it was one of the stars of Hee Haw, I thought one of the two men who appeared in the rowboat, but the only Hee Haw cast member murder I can find was of Stringbean and his wife, and they were shot during a robbery attempt. The man I am thinking of was beaten and strangled with an electrical cord and his body left in a bathtub. I don't know if there was water in the tub and don't think he drowned. There was a lot of bruising and he may have been at least partially unclothed. It may have been unsolved. This was a well-known and liked TV figure I thought was on Hee Haw, but these are not the details of Stringbean's murder. Who am I thinking of?

Thanks.

And the unidentified Taman Shud case....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taman_Shud_Case

I'm really surprised that UM, In Search of.., or any other mystery show has never done the Taman Shud case. It has to be one of the most baffling cases in history!

I'm surprised that the Mumia Abdul Jamal case never got done. It would make an excellent Final Appeal case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Palme
This case was done by Forensic Files or American Justice I think.

The Village That Disappeared

An individual that vanishes is one thing, but how about an entire village of 2,000 men, women and children? In November, 1930, a fur trapper named Joe Labelle made his way on snow shoes to an Eskimo village on the shores of Lake Anjikuni in northern Canada. Labelle was familiar with the village, which he knew as a thriving fishing community of about 2,000 residents.

When he arrived, however, the village was deserted. All of the huts and storehouses were vacant. He found one smoldering fire on which there was a pot of blackened stew. Labelle notified the authorities and an investigation was begun, and which turned up some bizarre findings: no footprints of any of the residents were found, if they had vacated the village; all of the Eskimos' sled dogs were found buried under a 12-foot-high snow drift - they had all starved to death; all of the Eskimos' food and provisions were found undisturbed in their huts. And there was one last unnerving discovery: the Eskimos' ancestral graves had been emptied even though the icy ground around the graves was as hard as iron.

The search party also established that all the Eskimos' provisions and food had been left in their huts, which didn't make any sense at all. . Later, on that unearthly silent night the Mounties watched in awe as a strange blue glow lit up the horizon. The eerie radiance was not the northern lights, but seemed steady and artificial. As the Mounties watched, the light pulsated then faded. All the newspapers of the world reported the baffling disappearance of the 2,000 Eskimos, although many believed that a rational explanation would eventually come to light, but the Anjikuni mass disappearance is still unsolved.

The missing eskimo village sure is weird.

Even if they planned on meeting up with the mothership or decided to commit mass suicide, taking the remains of their dead ancestors with them or whatever...

Why let all their sled dogs starve to death, slowly, one by one? Why not kill them and bury them under the snow, then move on to the next step of their plan?

Anyway, sounds a lot like a cult thing to me. Like heaven's gate or jim jones. They decided to gather up the remains of their ancestors and move on to their afterlife. No evidence was found due to sloppy 1930s investigating in a remote northern part of canada, accessible only by snow shoe or dogsled.

I think a story about the two Little Rascals that were murdered, Carl Alfalfa Switzer and Scotty Beckett.

Did they ever do Bob Crane's murder? http://www.crimemagazine.com/bobcrane.htm

Also, can ANYBODY help me remember a celebrity murder from around 1972-1973? I thought it was one of the stars of Hee Haw, I thought one of the two men who appeared in the rowboat, but the only Hee Haw cast member murder I can find was of Stringbean and his wife, and they were shot during a robbery attempt. The man I am thinking of was beaten and strangled with an electrical cord and his body left in a bathtub. I don't know if there was water in the tub and don't think he drowned. There was a lot of bruising and he may have been at least partially unclothed. It may have been unsolved. This was a well-known and liked TV figure I thought was on Hee Haw, but these are not the details of Stringbean's murder. Who am I thinking of?

Thanks.

I kind of remember Bob Crane's murder being covered on the show. I might be mistaken with another show.

Did they ever do Bob Crane's murder? http://www.crimemagazine.com/bobcrane.htm

Also, can ANYBODY help me remember a celebrity murder from around 1972-1973? I thought it was one of the stars of Hee Haw, I thought one of the two men who appeared in the rowboat, but the only Hee Haw cast member murder I can find was of Stringbean and his wife, and they were shot during a robbery attempt. The man I am thinking of was beaten and strangled with an electrical cord and his body left in a bathtub. I don't know if there was water in the tub and don't think he drowned. There was a lot of bruising and he may have been at least partially unclothed. It may have been unsolved. This was a well-known and liked TV figure I thought was on Hee Haw, but these are not the details of Stringbean's murder. Who am I thinking of?

Thanks.

Cori, I went through imbd.com's whole list of Hee Haw cast members who didn't appear on the show after about 1980 and I couldn't find anyone except stringbean who was murdered.

IMDB even included guest cast members, but I don't know if it included all guest cast. I was able to account for cause of death or if they're still living in each case. A few examples:

Sheb Wooley died 2003
Jimmy Riddle died 1982
Don Rich died in 1974, but it was a motorcycle accident

So, I'm wondering if we missed someone, or if the person you're thinking of is from a different show. BUT, you know what's weird, I could have sworn that a couple years ago, I had read something about "the curse of hee haw" or some such thing. I think it was in a crime forum on delphiforums. It was an article or a few paragraphs about 2 or 3 cast members of Hee Haw becoming victims of murder. It went into detail on the Stringbean murder, but I don't recall that it said all that much about the other case(s).

I kind of remember Bob Crane's murder being covered on the show. I might be mistaken with another show.

You're probably correct on the second sentence. Of all my years of watching UM, I never saw the Bob Crane murder case featured on UM. It was, however, featured on other shows (such as the E! True Hollywood Story).

I think a story about the two Little Rascals that were murdered, Carl Alfalfa Switzer and Scotty Beckett.

Where in the world do you get this? Carl Switzer was shot by his business partner, who was tried for it. Scotty Beckett intentionally OD'd, unless that suicide note was a forgery.

While searching for the Hee Haw murders, I did find one who was murdered, but there was a conviction for it. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1351207/posts

Cori, I went through imbd.com's whole list of Hee Haw cast members who didn't appear on the show after about 1980 and I couldn't find anyone except stringbean who was murdered.

IMDB even included guest cast members, but I don't know if it included all guest cast. I was able to account for cause of death or if they're still living in each case. A few examples:

Sheb Wooley died 2003
Jimmy Riddle died 1982
Don Rich died in 1974, but it was a motorcycle accident

So, I'm wondering if we missed someone, or if the person you're thinking of is from a different show. BUT, you know what's weird, I could have sworn that a couple years ago, I had read something about "the curse of hee haw" or some such thing. I think it was in a crime forum on delphiforums. It was an article or a few paragraphs about 2 or 3 cast members of Hee Haw becoming victims of murder. It went into detail on the Stringbean murder, but I don't recall that it said all that much about the other case(s).

Thanks. I did the same but checked only the cast, not all the guest stars. Also could find no such case described on this http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm230537.html incomplete but interesting list.

This is a real unsolved mystery for me! I was around ten at the time and this murder was all the schoolyard buzz. I can't believe I could have imagined or fabricated such details. Another unsolved mystery is, if it was another show, what could I have possibly mistaken for Hee Haw? It was pretty distinctive and back then there were only a few shows we watched, not a bunch of clones like now. This person was not super-famous, but a well-known older man who appeared on Hee Haw or some such show. Details of his death would have been given on national news. CBS was the news network we watched. Unfortunately, Sitcoms Online doesn't have a Hee-Haw board, or I'd ask there exactly what the Hee-Haw curse is.

Unfortunately, Sitcoms Online doesn't have a Hee-Haw board, or I'd ask there exactly what the Hee-Haw curse is.

Crystaldawn probably knows. ;)

Crystaldawn probably knows. ;)

Ah yes I love Hee Haw! :lol: Although JS has a thing for Roni Stoneman he's not really a fan of the show.

http://www.heehaw.com/cast.html

I've never heard of a curse and couldn't find anything online about it. Of course I know about Stringbean and his wife (there's a City Confidential about it). I do remember Grady Nutt and he was killed in a plane crash while Hee Haw was still airing. Not sure if any others met with untimely deaths or not. I can't remember hearing of anyone being murdered except Stringbean.

The Stringbean & wife murder would have made a good UM segment. Two men were convicted of the murders and one has since died in prison. Stringbean used to play the scarecrow on Hee Haw and after his death they kept it out in the "field" as a tribute.

How frustrating! Maybe they should just have me on for False Memory Syndrome.

How frustrating! Maybe they should just have me on for False Memory Syndrome.

I'll be right there with you. I recall a thread that I read here very recently. Apostapler asked a question about the case so I went looking for that thread and could never find it. Even after looking for 45 minutes. And I KNOW I read it just a few weeks ago! It contained very detailed information. There was nothing vague about it. And still all I have to show anyone is evidence of False Memory Syndrome. :(

Oh, Tracy, maybe we need to join a support group! I am seriously losing my mind! I tore the house apart looking for an item I bought on eBay (admittedly, two years ago)--even went through handwritten notes, found the seller, and looked up his name and address, to help identify the box. I was looking for a box big enough to contain 7" 78 rpm records. Even called a friend to ask if I'd shown them to him. Then I went to move something totally unrelated, and recognized the box ONLY from the address. I'd overlooked it as being "too small."

THE RECORDS WERE 45s! Boy, was I humiliated! :(

Hey, I'm not the only one. Eight years ago when we were doing a play, an antique shop owner was going to lend me an old doorbell. I went to her shop to try it out and it was no better than another solution I'd already come up with, so handed it back. Later her daughter came to me saying, "I understand Mom lent you a doorbell for the play." I told her what happened and she threw a TOTAL FIT, saying her mom was losing her mind and had several times recounted incidents differently than how they happened. I thought little of it as her mom is a well-known mental case.

A year or more later, when we were doing another show, this woman came to me and said, "Mom's very concerned, she says you borrowed a doorbell from her and never returned it." I repeated this story, and this time she DIDN'T BELIEVE IT which she had before, and, even weirder, DIDN'T REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE INCLUDING THE FIT SHE THREW! That was what I remembered most and what kept the incident so in my mind. Certainly, if anything upset me to that point, I'd remember it, but I guess such displays are routine for her. And (unlike my eBay purchases) my music stuff is all kept together and I go through it with EACH show, so if that bell was there I'd have found it. Of course, the daughter is a TOTAL wack job, but now I have no proof I DON'T have their doorbell and NEVER had it--she'll have lost it, maybe even had it stolen by someone else, or sold it, or mistake it for "another one like it" if she even finds it. Luckily I don't speak to them for other reasons, not the accusations of absentmindedness to the point of thievery, but they threw one too many fits for me to feel comfortable ever being around them.

Second, true story: I sent 48 items in four boxes to a person who appeared on a TV series after this person said I could "send as many things as you like" to be signed. (They have since arranged with a fan club pres to sell signatures, but as I paid postage, could at least return my items unsigned.) This person did sign one item, which I then sent back to be signed by other cast members (that never happened) and acknowledged receipt of most or all of the items in an online chat. Unfortunately, the chat was not logged and I later had a falling-out with the fans, and didn't get delivery confirmation on the boxes, so no documentation. I never got them back, or replies to my inquiries. Finally got the fan club pres to speak to this person, who says they NEVER GOT THE BOXES--that they'd remember so many things. I think they are lost, misplaced, or whatnot. This is going on nine years now and I hope this individual feels a proper sense of shame if they are ever moving things and come across these boxes (which I hope still exist)! I can't believe they'd intentionally steal my things, but if I say anything about it the fan club is going to make me out to be a fool/liar/psycho. We just all have these moments. :confused:

Oh Cori, I hate to say this, but I think somebody somewhere along the line liked the items you sent to the TV person. Of course, we can't rule out plain old stupidity on their part, but I just think it's weird that they actually solicited people to send in as many items as they wanted, to have signed. I wonder how many other people didn't get their stuff back.

Where in the world do you get this? Carl Switzer was shot by his business partner, who was tried for it. Scotty Beckett intentionally OD'd, unless that suicide note was a forgery.

While searching for the Hee Haw murders, I did find one who was murdered, but there was a conviction for it. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1351207/posts

Scotty was beaten to death,Carl was shot by his buisness partner but they werent sure of the circumstances behind it they said it was justifible homicide but their was questions as to whether that was true.

Oh Cori, I hate to say this, but I think somebody somewhere along the line liked the items you sent to the TV person. Of course, we can't rule out plain old stupidity on their part, but I just think it's weird that they actually solicited people to send in as many items as they wanted, to have signed. I wonder how many other people didn't get their stuff back.

What got me is the person at first acknowledged receiving them (that had to be the real person in the chat room--knew exactly what I was talking about and was way too knowledgeable not to be.) I DO have (somewhere) the letter inviting me to send things to be signed, and canceled checks for when I mailed the boxes, but no "proof" of their arrival. I don't know if anyone else lost items. I don't remember specifically asking the fan club pres, who might not have told me anyway. I can't ask the fans as I am on the outs with them and that sort of posting might be deleted from the message board. Again, I accept the story, that the fan club pres talked to the actor who by then didn't remember it, of course by that time years had passed. I was just about to approach the fan club people when the blowup occurred which is why more time passed before I said anything.

As for the murder case I asked about...it just seems too vivid not to have occurred. Remember I looked for quite awhile for that "Forest of Disappearing Children" case before it surfaced.

Scotty was beaten to death,Carl was shot by his buisness partner but they werent sure of the circumstances behind it they said it was justifible homicide but their was questions as to whether that was true.

As I wasn't there, I couldn't say, but supposedly Scotty was beaten, then checked into a hotel and OD'd. He had time to leave a note.

Carl Switzer's death does bear looking into if, as has been said, at least four other people were present besides the three involved in the argument and at least one of those described it decades later as more murder than self-defense. I was not aware of this until looking it up just now.

The missing eskimo village sure is weird.

Even if they planned on meeting up with the mothership or decided to commit mass suicide, taking the remains of their dead ancestors with them or whatever...

Why let all their sled dogs starve to death, slowly, one by one? Why not kill them and bury them under the snow, then move on to the next step of their plan?

Anyway, sounds a lot like a cult thing to me. Like heaven's gate or jim jones. They decided to gather up the remains of their ancestors and move on to their afterlife. No evidence was found due to sloppy 1930s investigating in a remote northern part of canada, accessible only by snow shoe or dogsled.

Absolutely weird and uncanny, and wherever they took off to was not by dogsled. If it was mass suicide, it would beat the record set at Jonestown...but then, wouldn't remains of such a large number of bodies turn up?

Absolutely weird and uncanny, and wherever they took off to was not by dogsled. If it was mass suicide, it would beat the record set at Jonestown...but then, wouldn't remains of such a large number of bodies turn up?

I know.... How do you hide 2,000 people AND all their dead folks, too? Creepy, creepy, creepy.

I've thought about different scenarios, involving murder or suicide, and I can't come up with anything that explains it.

I was thinking about the one pot of cooked food that was found, still hot. (Was it the only home that had food cooking? hmmm) That made me think that maybe it was a mass murderer who was killing them off, a couple families at a time. Then, as the people weren't there to feed their dogs, the sled dogs died of starvation.

But that doesn't really make sense. In a town of 2,000 people, it seems like they'd finally figure out who the killer is, and then be able to stop him before he was the last man standing. It also doesn't explain the dead ancestors being dug up, unless this was an Eskimo Ed Gein. And even then, people are gonna notice and put a stop to it before he's successfully killed everyone.

This story would have really been a great candidate for the classic UM style of filming, imo.

As I wasn't there, I couldn't say, but supposedly Scotty was beaten, then checked into a hotel and OD'd. He had time to leave a note.

Carl Switzer's death does bear looking into if, as has been said, at least four other people were present besides the three involved in the argument and at least one of those described it decades later as more murder than self-defense. I was not aware of this until looking it up just now.

From what I read about Scotty Beckett he led a very exciting and sad life.The story about Carl Switzer would have been perfect for Robert Stacks UMysteires, all you needed was a bit of speculation their was something else to it and it makes for a tantalizing story,theirs so many old Hollywood murder/suicide stories like that where your not %100 sure.

I'm not sure if this one has been mentioned yet, but the Grim Sleeper serial killer is definitely a story that should be covered. CNN just ran a major article on the case with extensive information: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2009/news/grim.sleeper/index.html

The Grim Sleeper is a nickname given to a serial killer in South Los Angeles, who has committed a total of 11 murders (with one survivor) over a span of 22 years. Nine of the attacks came between 1985 and 1988, and then abruptly stopped after the last attack resulted in the victim presuading him to allow her to escape. Then in 2001, after a 13-year lapse, he struck again. Two more killings followed in 2003 and 2007, respectively.

Police established a connection to the killings by using DNA evidence, fingerprints recovered from the crime scenes, and ballistics (the same caliber gun was used in each murder). None of the DNA matched inmates in the California penal system, and no match was found against 100 million fingerprints nationwide. The victims were almost all young and vulnerable African-American women, some of which were prostitutes. The sole survivor described the suspect as an African-American male in his early 30s, and at the time of the incident, drove a rust-colored Ford Pinto.

I'm actually quite shocked that this case wasn't covered by UM during the early Stack days, seeing as the killings took place in the late 1980s and were in very close proximity. Although DNA technology was not what it is today, there was an obvious trend in the victims targeted as well as the killer's MO. Had the case been covered, it's very possible that new leads could have resulted in the killer's capture, preventing the 3 murders in the 2000s.

I'm not sure if this one has been mentioned yet, but the Grim Sleeper serial killer is definitely a story that should be covered. CNN just ran a major article on the case with extensive information: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2009/news/grim.sleeper/index.html

The Grim Sleeper is a nickname given to a serial killer in South Los Angeles, who has committed a total of 11 murders (with one survivor) over a span of 22 years. Nine of the attacks came between 1985 and 1988, and then abruptly stopped after the last attack resulted in the victim presuading him to allow her to escape. Then in 2001, after a 13-year lapse, he struck again. Two more killings followed in 2003 and 2007, respectively.

Police established a connection to the killings by using DNA evidence, fingerprints recovered from the crime scenes, and ballistics (the same caliber gun was used in each murder). None of the DNA matched inmates in the California penal system, and no match was found against 100 million fingerprints nationwide. The victims were almost all young and vulnerable African-American women, some of which were prostitutes. The sole survivor described the suspect as an African-American male in his early 30s, and at the time of the incident, drove a rust-colored Ford Pinto.

I'm actually quite shocked that this case wasn't covered by UM during the early Stack days, seeing as the killings took place in the late 1980s and were in very close proximity. Although DNA technology was not what it is today, there was an obvious trend in the victims targeted as well as the killer's MO. Had the case been covered, it's very possible that new leads could have resulted in the killer's capture, preventing the 3 murders in the 2000s.

That's some serious downtime for such a prolific first three years...there have to be more victims somewhere, or else he was incarcerated. I'll have to check out the link when I get home.

what about the SMILEY FACE MURDERS over 48 men have been murdered they go to college than to parties than end up in the rivers or creeks drowned.

its been thought as a cult or as a sadistic murderer. the murders started around 98. check on wikipedia.

they shuld remake the series with all the cases not solved.

Just thought of a great one what about the Phantom Killer.

Albuquerque West Mesa mystery murders

Just thought of a great one what about the Phantom Killer.

That is an interesting case.

It even potentially has connections to the Zodiac Killer. Specificaly one of his letters. The Red Phantom Letter.

There are some similarities in the two cases. The car ambushes.

I believe there is even a suspect for the Phantom Killer I believe as well?

This may have already been mentioned in this thread.
Keddie murders...slaughter of almost an entire family back in the '80s.

http://keddiemurdersfilm.com/casesummary.html

That is an interesting case.

It even potentially has connections to the Zodiac Killer. Specificaly one of his letters. The Red Phantom Letter.

There are some similarities in the two cases. The car ambushes.

I believe there is even a suspect for the Phantom Killer I believe as well?

Wouldnt that be unreal if it was one of the same guy,their was a suspect Youell Swinney they said his wife was sketchy on the details though she kept changing her story. Did you ever hear of the novel Corroborating Evidence II I guess along with comparing the Zodiac with the Phantom its also compares the Cleveland Torso murders to the Black Dahlia murder.

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That is an interesting case.

It even potentially has connections to the Zodiac Killer. Specificaly one of his letters. The Red Phantom Letter.

There are some similarities in the two cases. The car ambushes.

I believe there is even a suspect for the Phantom Killer I believe as well?


Wouldnt that be unreal if it was one of the same guy,their was a suspect Youell Swinney they said his wife was sketchy on the details though she kept changing her story. Did you ever hear of the novel Corroborating Evidence II I guess along with comparing the Zodiac with the Phantom its also compares the Cleveland Torso murders to the Black Dahlia murder.

It has long been thought that serial killers keep their MO throughout their killing careers. But there is more thinking that serial killers can indeed morph into a different MO or become a completely different serial killer.

I have heard the theory about Black Dahlia and Torso Murderer. I do think there is possibility of a connection. I have not read that book yet, I will when I get a chance.

I think there is a strong possiblity that Zodiac has a connection to the Red Phantom. The Phantom may in fact be the inspiration for Zodiac. It also may point to Zodiac living in that area around the time.

Youell Swinney is a very interesting character. Career thief. Too bad the fingerprint evidence is gone.
When did Youell go to prison?

Youell Swinney is a very interesting character. Career thief. Too bad the fingerprint evidence is gone.
When did Youell go to prison?

He went to jail in 1947, and was released in 1974.

The Phantom Killer may have been an inspiration for Zodiac, just like Zodiac was at the least an inspiration of sorts for the Unabomber.

It has long been thought that serial killers keep their MO throughout their killing careers. But there is more thinking that serial killers can indeed morph into a different MO or become a completely different serial killer.

I have heard the theory about Black Dahlia and Torso Murderer. I do think there is possibility of a connection. I have not read that book yet, I will when I get a chance.

I think there is a strong possiblity that Zodiac has a connection to the Red Phantom. The Phantom may in fact be the inspiration for Zodiac. It also may point to Zodiac living in that area around the time.

Youell Swinney is a very interesting character. Career thief. Too bad the fingerprint evidence is gone.
When did Youell go to prison?


I never got how it was just assumed every serial killer is the same and fits into one tidy little box doesnt work like that,remember when they use to say black serial killers didnt exist, the DC Snipers and Baseline Killer shot that theory down in flames.

Regarding the BD/CT this guy Jack Wilson was the main suspect in both sets of murders and the background strongly supports it. I never got why the Phantom was never given any real press other then through the film The Town That Dreaded Sundown I probably wouldnt really know about him otherwise.

Did you ever read the Zodiac hardcover it looks like it might be an interesting read. As for Youell that wife may have been involved in the killings and was playing the cops like a fiddle making them think she was telling tall tales you just never really know.

I think the D.C. sniper killings are considered spree killing as opposed to serial killing. But there is that guy who committed the Atlanta child murders, Wayne Johnson or something?

But it true that the vast majority of serial killers are white including the worst of the worst like Bundy, Gacy, Dahmer, and I believe the worst serial killer of all time is a Russian guy or it could be that nurse who killed over 200 people, another white guy.

The only Hispanic serial killer I can think of is Richard Ramirez but the overwhelming majority tend to be white for whatever reason.

what about the SMILEY FACE MURDERS over 48 men have been murdered they go to college than to parties than end up in the rivers or creeks drowned.

its been thought as a cult or as a sadistic murderer. the murders started around 98. check on wikipedia.

they shuld remake the series with all the cases not solved.

The FBI thinks those are just accidental deaths and NOT murders. That sounds pretty ridiculous to me but that's what they say. They even talked about this on CNN a few weeks ago and that FBI chick was on. That dark haired lady, Candice Delong or something?

She's been on TV a lot.

Just fyi, the atlanta child murders were committed by Wayne Williams.

There are lots of serial killers who are not white. I don't know why the "classic" serial killer is supposed to by white, unless the authorities are only studing killers in the US, which has a large white population.

Richard Ramirez is one hispanic serial killer, as is Angel Resendez (the railroad killer). These men killed in the US so that's probably why their names are familiar to us.

Luis Garavito, is the guy in Colombia who was killing street kids. He wasn't white. There was the guy in ghana, Charles Papa Kwabena Ebo Quansah, who was raping and killing women in the countryside. He wasn't white. The guy in india, Moninder Singh Pandher, and his servant, Surender Koli who were killing children. Neither were white. Anyway, those are the first non-white serial killers who I thought of.

Basically, just go to wikipedia and look up serial killers by country. Japan has japanese serial killers, mexico has hispanic serial killers, and so on. I think that the "serial killer has to be white" thing is tunnel vision the cops have because of the population demographics in the US.

Just fyi, the atlanta child murders were committed by Wayne Williams.

Not to get OT, but I've come across a handful of sources that claim there's much evidence to suggest that Wayne Williams didn't commit a number of those murders. I haven't thoroughly researched the case myself, but if the Atlanta child murders police investigation was anything like the Son of Sam investigation... :rolleyes:

Speaking of which, I think another SOS segment would be great. I'm not sure I completely buy the satanic cult angle, but I definitely think David Berkowitz did not commit all of those shootings. I'd love to see an interview with him.

Okie dokie. I went to wiki and looked at the US serial killer list they have. Among all the white guys they have:

20 women

1 asian

9 hispanics

19 blacks

1 eskimo

Meg, I was just correcting a previous poster's ID of the killer. He thought the name was wayne johnson. I wanted to make sure that the right name went along with the case.

I haven't studied that one enough to know how the investigation was done or if he's really guilty of as many murders as they said. He sure was creepy looking though.... a pudgy momma's boy.

I think the D.C. sniper killings are considered spree killing as opposed to serial killing. But there is that guy who committed the Atlanta child murders, Wayne Johnson or something?

But it true that the vast majority of serial killers are white including the worst of the worst like Bundy, Gacy, Dahmer, and I believe the worst serial killer of all time is a Russian guy or it could be that nurse who killed over 200 people, another white guy.

The only Hispanic serial killer I can think of is Richard Ramirez but the overwhelming majority tend to be white for whatever reason.

Theirs a number of black serial killers from the US, Coral Watts,Eddie Lee Mosley,Harrison Graham,Hulon Mitchell, to name a few.

Actually the worst serial killer is Hispanic Pedro Lopez killed over 300 people and actually amazingly was released from prison in 98 on the Colombian border one night and just left to his own devices so who knows where the guy is know.

Just fyi, the atlanta child murders were committed by Wayne Williams.

There are lots of serial killers who are not white. I don't know why the "classic" serial killer is supposed to by white, unless the authorities are only studing killers in the US, which has a large white population.

Richard Ramirez is one hispanic serial killer, as is Angel Resendez (the railroad killer). These men killed in the US so that's probably why their names are familiar to us.

Luis Garavito, is the guy in Colombia who was killing street kids. He wasn't white. There was the guy in ghana, Charles Papa Kwabena Ebo Quansah, who was raping and killing women in the countryside. He wasn't white. The guy in india, Moninder Singh Pandher, and his servant, Surender Koli who were killing children. Neither were white. Anyway, those are the first non-white serial killers who I thought of.

Basically, just go to wikipedia and look up serial killers by country. Japan has japanese serial killers, mexico has hispanic serial killers, and so on. I think that the "serial killer has to be white" thing is tunnel vision the cops have because of the population demographics in the US.

Charles Sobhraj dubbed the Serpent was a fascinating and yet evil sob in the same breath a French National of Indian and Vietnamese parentage From 1972 to 1982 he was suspected of commiting at least 20 murders in India, Thailand, Afghanistan, Turkey, Nepal, Iran and Hong Kong.

The FBI thinks those are just accidental deaths and NOT murders. That sounds pretty ridiculous to me but that's what they say. They even talked about this on CNN a few weeks ago and that FBI chick was on. That dark haired lady, Candice Delong or something?

She's been on TV a lot.
there's no way they are all suicides why are smiley faces always found on the crime scene it has to be a cult or something.

That dark haired lady, Candice Delong or something?

If you get a chance, read her book. I forget the name of it, but you can google her name on Amazon. It';s a very good look at life as a female agent in the FBI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman
a great case to do would be the Stone Killer in India. Not sure what info you can gain to solve the case. But it would be an interesting case to do from a production standpoint

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_John
This is a strange one.

The reason there tend to more white serial killers is because they tend to get reported more. Murders that happen in impverished and poor communities tend to get lost in the shuffle. There have been a slew of black serial killers, female serial killers and a gay serial killers.

If your murdering white coeds on a university campuse your going to get a lot of press. If your killing homeless people in the streets, nobodies really going to care about you.

If your killing homeless people in the streets, nobodies really going to care about you.


Adam Hecht might

The Tristan "Buddy" Myers disappearance would be a good one for a future episode.

http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1253966/
http://www.amw.com/missing_children/brief.cfm?id=24982

When I say I'd like to see these segments, I mean I'd like to see them get athe OLD-FASHIONED UM treatment, not this new ****.

Historically Unsolved:


Axeman of New Orleans 1918-1919 New Orleans, Louisiana
Ratcliffe Highway Murders Dec. 7 & Dec.19 1811 Wapping, London
Serge Rubinstein 1955 Manhattan, NYC
Joseph Elwell 1920 Manhattan, NYC
Sir Harry Oakes 1943 Nassau, Bahamas
Hall-Mills Murders Sept. 14 1922 New brunswick, New Jersey http://www.essortment.com/all/murderfamousun_runa.htm
John M. Clayton Jan. 29 1889 Plumerville, Arkansas



Fascinating modern era murder mysteries:


Billie Jean Phillips Sept.2 1994 Huntsville, Arkansas http://www.ardemgaz.com/prev/meth/a1highway20.asp
Ken Rex McElroy 1980 St. Joseph, Missouri

Okie dokie. I went to wiki and looked at the US serial killer list they have. Among all the white guys they have:

20 women

1 asian

9 hispanics

19 blacks

1 eskimo

Eskimo serial killer,thats diffrent.

The reason there tend to more white serial killers is because they tend to get reported more. Murders that happen in impverished and poor communities tend to get lost in the shuffle. There have been a slew of black serial killers, female serial killers and a gay serial killers.

If your murdering white coeds on a university campuse your going to get a lot of press. If your killing homeless people in the streets, nobodies really going to care about you.

I dont know about that some of the black serial killers did kill just white women.

Historically Unsolved:

Axeman of New Orleans 1918-1919 New Orleans, Louisiana.

That story always intrigued me,also Madame Lalaurie would make for a good story.

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The reason there tend to more white serial killers is because they tend to get reported more. Murders that happen in impverished and poor communities tend to get lost in the shuffle. There have been a slew of black serial killers, female serial killers and a gay serial killers.

If your murdering white coeds on a university campuse your going to get a lot of press. If your killing homeless people in the streets, nobodies really going to care about you.


I dont know about that some of the black serial killers did kill just white women.

There are several more that have killed only african american women. The NO serial killer for example. The one that killled those young black girls in DC not to long ago.

If you get a chance, read her book. I forget the name of it, but you can google her name on Amazon. It';s a very good look at life as a female agent in the FBI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman
a great case to do would be the Stone Killer in India. Not sure what info you can gain to solve the case. But it would be an interesting case to do from a production standpoint

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_John
This is a strange one.

If she's so good then doesn't she have some credibility when she says there is no evidence that ALL those smiley killings are related and a serial crime?

She said there was one case in NY/NJ or something that was a murder but she didn't say that about the rest.

There are several more that have killed only african american women. The NO serial killer for example. The one that killled those young black girls in DC not to long ago.

What about the Zebra Killings who knows about them 71 white people murdered by Black Islamists in LA and theyve all but been forgotten.

I think they should go for the deaths of Cd.Juarez thousand's of woman have been murdered in the past 10 years and still there are not even 5% of suspects to all this specific cases...veredicts from the families and friends would be great to have in the program...

What about the Zebra Killings who knows about them 71 white people murdered by Black Islamists in LA and theyve all but been forgotten.

Other murders that I still think to this day that are still unsolved and would make for an excellent UM show would be the deaths of Nick Adams,whose death is still questionable.His lawyer and lawyer's girlfriend were both killed right on their own driveway as well.Albert Dekker of Dr. Cyclops fame,his death is still a question mark to a lot of people to this day as well.The murder of charecter actor,Frank Christi has also never been solved.His death was a hit on his life,supposedly.

Also the murders of charecter actors,Victor Kilian,also from Dr. Cyclops and the Mary Hartman,Mary Hartman tv series,and Charles Wagenheim,were also killed by invaders in their homes,looking for money to steal.Kilian was murdered in his chair while watching tv,and Wagenheim was killed when he came back home from grocery shopping,and found the perpitraitors trying to rob him.

Originally Posted by HHorseman
What about the Zebra Killings who knows about them 71 white people murdered by Black Islamists in LA and theyve all but been forgotten.

Are you referring to the "Death Angels"?

There is strong theory that they never existed. That the murders were random killings that were used to develop into either a black muslim propoganda technique or a white supremecist propoganda technique.

I tend to agree with that theory.

They never did find an actual "angel" photo, did they?

That being said, it would make a great segment.

Are you referring to the "Death Angels"?

There is strong theory that they never existed. That the murders were random killings that were used to develop into either a black muslim propoganda technique or a white supremecist propoganda technique.

I tend to agree with that theory.

They never did find an actual "angel" photo, did they?

That being said, it would make a great segment.

I think the "Death Angels" is about 99% bunk, but it would make a pretty fascinating segment regardless.

You mentioned Bible John in an earlier post. That I would love to see. What a weird, weird story.

Are you referring to the "Death Angels"?

There is strong theory that they never existed. That the murders were random killings that were used to develop into either a black muslim propoganda technique or a white supremecist propoganda technique.

I tend to agree with that theory.

They never did find an actual "angel" photo, did they?

That being said, it would make a great segment.

The theory that it was white supremecists were is the evidence of that.

Other murders that I still think to this day that are still unsolved and would make for an excellent UM show would be the deaths of Nick Adams,whose death is still questionable.His lawyer and lawyer's girlfriend were both killed right on their own driveway as well.Albert Dekker of Dr. Cyclops fame,his death is still a question mark to a lot of people to this day as well.The murder of charecter actor,Frank Christi has also never been solved.His death was a hit on his life,supposedly.

Also the murders of charecter actors,,also from Dr. Cyclops and the Mary Hartman,Mary Hartman tv series,and Charles Wagenheim,were also killed by invaders in their homes,looking for money to steal.Kilian was murdered in his chair while watching tv,and Wagenheim was killed when he came back home from grocery shopping,and found the perpitraitors trying to rob him.

Some of these stories really are very fascinating, it didnt make much sense that Nick would take a drug to battle alcholisim when he wasnt a known drinker,I might have been able to buy that he had taken them on his own and their was nothign sinister behind it but for the lawyer and GF to be murdered in his driveway it makes you wonder what was really going on. Do you know if they had any strong suspects. I never saw Dr. Cyclops but how weird is that all those people connnected to the same film mysteriously killed.

Hollywood has such a dark past so many wierd things have gone on that have all but been forgotten.

There was a "48 Hours" episode about eight years ago about a community in Maryland - Fishing Creek Farms I think - and it was sort of like the Circleville letters in that someone wrote a derogatory letter to someone else and of course did not sign it. It got waaaaay out of hand and people starting suing each other and other nonsense.

It was a very upper class community and it was just humorous and sad to describe the lengths that people would go to to prove they were right.

There was a "48 Hours" episode about eight years ago about a community in Maryland - Fishing Creek Farms I think - and it was sort of like the Circleville letters in that someone wrote a derogatory letter to someone else and of course did not sign it. It got waaaaay out of hand and people starting suing each other and other nonsense.

It was a very upper class community and it was just humorous and sad to describe the lengths that people would go to to prove they were right.

I kind of remember seeing that. I agree it would have been a great case for UM to solve.

Originally Posted by Mastermind
Are you referring to the "Death Angels"?

There is strong theory that they never existed. That the murders were random killings that were used to develop into either a black muslim propoganda technique or a white supremecist propoganda technique.

I tend to agree with that theory.

They never did find an actual "angel" photo, did they?

That being said, it would make a great segment.

The theory that it was white supremecists were is the evidence of that.

I'm referring to white supremacists making up and spreading the "Death Angel" story to proof that black people are dangerous.

I just read the zebra/death angel thing on trutv. Before the discussion here, I had assumed that it was absolutely true, as written, and didn't bother to look for details.

But when reading it again, I noticed that it tells about how one black man shot a store keeper to death.

But the store keeper wasn't white. I thought this whole thing was about how these black guys hated white people and had decided to kill as many whites as possible.

Well, the shop keeper and the killer greeted each other in arabic. The store keeper was jordanian (and not white), but the article says "on the day he was killed for appearing too white". Do they know that the motive was the paleness of the store keeper's skin? If the dead man and the killer were the only two people there, then how do they know what they said to each other in arabic? Did the killer recount the conversation and reveal his motive?

After a couple more pages, it says how these militant muslim blacks were killing whites and "dissident" blacks.

Then another few pages, and it says that 14 people were killed and seven were injured, solely because they were white. (What happened to the Jordanian guy and the "dissident" blacks?)

Did the cops get this "hunting whites" idea from the crazy guy who blabbed for the $30,000 reward? Because at least one victim doesn't fit and the whole story contradicts itself on the black/white victim issue.

I think hysteria set in, and some unrelated crimes were attributed to the Zebra killings. While extremist groups have targeted certain people before, I think this case got out of hand and went into the realm of "80s satanic panic".

Another case that could be covered if UM was in production is the murders of Albuquerque couple Greg and Bernadette Ohlemacher. The couple was shot to death in their home while their then 20 year old daughter Renee was in the home. Renee claims to have heard her mother's screams and gunshots. She hid in a closet and first called non emergency police number then 911. Renee was considered a suspect due to a large life insurance, policy, and questionable behavior after the murders. The police were never able to tie her to the crime due to lack of evidence such as the fact she had no gunpowder residue on her hands. Her relatives believe she had some part in the crime. Another suspect who could possibly stand trial for the crime is a mortgage broker Ron Santiago. Ron committed illegal things in his job and Greg Ohlemacher threatened to report him. There are also theories that Bernadetter Ohlemacher had affairs with men and that could have triggered the murders.

Here's the 48 Hours episode of the casehttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/20/48hours/main4620326.shtml

I'm referring to white supremacists making up and spreading the "Death Angel" story to proof that black people are dangerous.

Theirs members from the Death Angels in prison for the crimes know isnt their.

I just read the zebra/death angel thing on trutv. Before the discussion here, I had assumed that it was absolutely true, as written, and didn't bother to look for details.

But when reading it again, I noticed that it tells about how one black man shot a store keeper to death.

But the store keeper wasn't white. I thought this whole thing was about how these black guys hated white people and had decided to kill as many whites as possible.

Well, the shop keeper and the killer greeted each other in arabic. The store keeper was jordanian (and not white), but the article says "on the day he was killed for appearing too white". Do they know that the motive was the paleness of the store keeper's skin? If the dead man and the killer were the only two people there, then how do they know what they said to each other in arabic? Did the killer recount the conversation and reveal his motive?

After a couple more pages, it says how these militant muslim blacks were killing whites and "dissident" blacks.

Then another few pages, and it says that 14 people were killed and seven were injured, solely because they were white. (What happened to the Jordanian guy and the "dissident" blacks?)

Did the cops get this "hunting whites" idea from the crazy guy who blabbed for the $30,000 reward? Because at least one victim doesn't fit and the whole story contradicts itself on the black/white victim issue.

I think hysteria set in, and some unrelated crimes were attributed to the Zebra killings. While extremist groups have targeted certain people before, I think this case got out of hand and went into the realm of "80s satanic panic".

I hear what your saying but I dont see how it could have been a setup if it was some kind of racially motivated setup wed be hearing about it from the Civil Right Groups but the truth of the matter is the whole thing has been virtually forgotten by alot of people especially with the people in the town it all happened.

I'd like to see two cases from my home state of TN: the disappearances of Tabitha Tuders and Leanne Green. I can't recall the name, but there was a Nashville man tried in court for the murder of his wife but her body was never found. I'd like to see that case resolved too. I think his name was Perry Smart; if you're not from here, you wouldn't know about it, but it was a big thing.

I think the guy is Perry March.

Here is Janet's charley page. Is this the case?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/march_janet.html

How about one on all those skeletons they unearthed in Albuquerque, NM? I'm following websleuths on that one with rapt attention.

How about one on all those skeletons they unearthed in Albuquerque, NM? I'm following websleuths on that one with rapt attention.

I agree that case would be a good UM segment. I live in Albuquerque and almost daily the news reports on something related to the case.

How about one on all those skeletons they unearthed in Albuquerque, NM? I'm following websleuths on that one with rapt attention.

This is the one they did on AMW a few weeks ago I believe.

This is the one they did on AMW a few weeks ago I believe.

Yep it was. Other shows like Dateline, 48 Hours and other shows are also considering filming segments on the case.

This was probably mentioned already, but I can't believe UM didn't cover the Keddie murders which took place in Northern California. The case hasn't been solved yet, but there are plenty of theories on what happened. Very brutal, and sad case. Interestingly, my father stayed at that exact cabin where the murders took place. Keddie was a tourist area back in the 50's, and 60's.

Here's a website with information on the case:http://keddiemurdersfilm.com/

Forgive me if this case was already mentioned....

The disappearance of B-movie actress Jean Spangler!

This may have already been mentioned but what about the murder of young beauty pagent queen Jon Benet Ramsey? This little girl was brutally strangled and bashed over the head with a heavy object in her own house in the mid 90's. Everyone should know this case it is a case that has never been solved properly and the two suspects that police believed were involved were her own parents!!! very sad case and i hope it will one day be solved.

This may have already been mentioned but what about the murder of young beauty pagent queen Jon Benet Ramsey? This little girl was brutally strangled and bashed over the head with a heavy object in her own house in the mid 90's. Everyone should know this case it is a case that has never been solved properly and the two suspects that police believed were involved were her own parents!!! very sad case and i hope it will one day be solved.


Actually, UM did a segment on the Ramsey murder. The segment was broadcast in early 1997. But as far as I know, it was never shown on Lifetime.

Actually, UM did a segment on the Ramsey murder. The segment was broadcast in early 1997. But as far as I know, it was never shown on Lifetime.

I don't remember seeing it on Lifetime either.

I don't remember seeing it on Lifetime either.

hmm i didnt know they already did a segment on it i never saw it but i sure would like to see it

The segment did air on CBS. I do remember seeing it. At the time the segment just talked about the information that was already released to the public. I think Lifetime never aired the segment because it had a filler segment on the CBS version.

I think UM should cover the story of the disappearance of UMass college student Maura Murray who disappeared in New Hampshire. Her car was found on the side of the road.

This may have already been mentioned but what about the murder of young beauty pagent queen Jon Benet Ramsey? This little girl was brutally strangled and bashed over the head with a heavy object in her own house in the mid 90's. Everyone should know this case it is a case that has never been solved properly and the two suspects that police believed were involved were her own parents!!! very sad case and i hope it will one day be solved.

Who dunit do you think if it was a stranger they did a damn good job of covering their tracks.

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This may have already been mentioned but what about the murder of young beauty pagent queen Jon Benet Ramsey? This little girl was brutally strangled and bashed over the head with a heavy object in her own house in the mid 90's. Everyone should know this case it is a case that has never been solved properly and the two suspects that police believed were involved were her own parents!!! very sad case and i hope it will one day be solved.

Who dunit do you think if it was a stranger they did a damn good job of covering their tracks.

Well there is foreign DNA found on her panties and supposedly her fingernails as well. so that would be evidence right there.

However, whether that DNA is that of an intruder, accomplice or contamination remains to be seen.

One thing that should be mentioned when considering the DNA is this.

1. John Ramseys cell phone records for the month of December somehow vanished. This isn;t evidence but it is suspicious.

2. The underwear that Jon Benet was wearing at the time of her death were extremely oversized(and I mean extremely!!!)..and there has yet to be a single pack or match to that underwear ever found. The Ramseys story changed twice in reference to the oversized underwear. This is significant because, the underwear Jon benet wore had the days of the week on the tags.

We've got to keep this thread going.

The monster of Florence - Unsolved murders that took place in tourist heaven Florence, Italy.

Juarez Murders - The brutal murders of women in Juarez, Mexico. It's been said that the body count is around three hundred women. :eek:

Tylenol Murders - This case has always interested me. One of the few examples in which the murder indirectly kills his/her victim.

We've got to keep this thread going.

The monster of Florence - Unsolved murders that took place in tourist heaven Florence, Italy.

Juarez Murders - The brutal murders of women in Juarez, Mexico. It's been said that the body count is around three hundred women. :eek:

Tylenol Murders - This case has always interested me. One of the few examples in which the murder indirectly kills his/her victim.

Those would be great cases for UM to cover. I do remember in the mid 90's both Dateline and 20/20 did segments on the Juarez murders I found it weird that UM never had a segment.

I always thought Karen Silkwood's death would make an interesting UM segment, as those questionable "one-car accidents" usually do.

meg the egg, I actually did some research into silkwood for a research paper. I believe that her father sued her workplace.

Did UM ever cover the Sprinfield 3? You know that's the case of the 3 Springfield,MO women who just vanished into thin air in the early 90s. I would think they could've since UM was on back then.

Did UM ever cover the Sprinfield 3? You know that's the case of the 3 Springfield,MO women who just vanished into thin air in the early 90s. I would think they could've since UM was on back then.

I don't think UM covered it.

I always thought Karen Silkwood's death would make an interesting UM segment, as those questionable "one-car accidents" usually do.This is one of those cases that I knew vaguely about. I knew there was a movie and I knew it was about radiation poisoning and whistleblowing. I just looked at the Wikipedia page for Karen Silkwood and I had no idea there were so many unanswered questions. I just put the movie in my Netflix queue.

Did UM ever have a segment on the disappearance of Jacquline Levitz?

Did UM ever have a segment on the disappearance of Jacquline Levitz?

No, I don't believe so. I searched the forum to see if the case might be listed in the episode guide and apparently UM did not cover the case.

No, I don't believe so. I searched the forum to see if the case might be listed in the episode guide and apparently UM did not cover the case.

I think it would be a good case to look into. Levitz was a wealthy heiress and she was declared dead years later but I only found about this case yesterday when I watched a show on E called 20 Unsolved Crimes.

In light of Matt Birkbeck's new book, I think Sharon Marshall should be re-done, plus Michael Hughes.
Janet Abaroa
Stacy Peterson
Michelle Young

I know this segment would be difficult to produce but thats one i'd like to see. Unexplained deaths of 9 skiers in Ural Mountains (Russia).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

I know this segment would be difficult to produce but thats one i'd like to see. Unexplained deaths of 9 skiers in Ural Mountains (Russia).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident
This would be right up UM's alley!!

James Dean's 55 Porshe Spider always intrugued me, I always wondered if thats where S.King got the inspiration for Christine

I know this segment would be difficult to produce but thats one i'd like to see. Unexplained deaths of 9 skiers in Ural Mountains (Russia).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

That story sounds interesting. I had never heard about it.

James Dean's 55 Porshe Spider always intrugued me, I always wondered if thats where S.King got the inspiration for Christine

That story has always interested me. I saw a documentary called Haunted Hollywood and the story about the Porsche was featured. It was a good documentary. A UM segment on that story would have been cool.

That story has always interested me. I saw a documentary called Haunted Hollywood and the story about the Porsche was featured. It was a good documentary. A UM segment on that story would have been cool.

What station was that on I wouldnt mind seeing it, did you ever see the E! 13 Most Shocking Hollywood curses they ranked it 5th,it should have definetly been #1.

Robert Stack would have done the story justice for sure.

What station was that on I wouldnt mind seeing it, did you ever see the E! 13 Most Shocking Hollywood curses they ranked it 5th,it should have definetly been #1.

Robert Stack would have done the story justice for sure.

I can't remember what station. I think it was the Travel Channel. I haven't seen the 13 Most Shocking Hollywood curses.

I can't remember what station. I think it was the Travel Channel. I haven't seen the 13 Most Shocking Hollywood curses.

Okay thanks!.

As I recall, about half of these have appeared on UM: http://listverse.com/2010/01/14/10-more-enigmas-that-defy-explanation/

Here are more, some of which appeared on UM but not sure about all: http://theamericancritic.com/articles/One_Who_Is_Sent

In case I didn't mention it, the younger brother of a good friend of mine was found dead--no real leads--and I'd like to see closure for the family.

In case I didn't mention it, the younger brother of a good friend of mine was found dead--no real leads--and I'd like to see closure for the family.

Update: this was initially treated as a murder, but it turned out he died from huffing--breathing cans of compressed air--dangerous and addictive. :(

The Monster of Florence would be an interesting case for UM to cover. This individual killed several young couples in the countryside of Florence, Italy. To this day, it remains unsolved. It kind of reminds me of the Zodiac case.

The Monster of Florence would be an interesting case for UM to cover. This individual killed several young couples in the countryside of Florence, Italy. To this day, it remains unsolved. It kind of reminds me of the Zodiac case.

I kinda wish UM would've done an original Zodiac segment, without the unabomber theory. The unabomber bit tainted what could've been a good segment on just the Zodiac itself. Not a bad watch though, an interesting comparison but I don't believe they are the same.

Also, I know I've said this before, but three words come to mind:

JACK THE RIPPER

UM should cover that one...In Search Of did and it would be an interesting watch indeed.

I kinda wish UM would've done an original Zodiac segment, without the unabomber theory. The unabomber bit tainted what could've been a good segment on just the Zodiac itself. Not a bad watch though, an interesting comparison but I don't believe they are the same.

Also, I know I've said this before, but three words come to mind:

JACK THE RIPPER

UM should cover that one...In Search Of did and it would be an interesting watch indeed.

One more...the Bible John murders out of Glasgow, Scotland in the late 1960s.

Bible John was a red-haired (according to witnesses) serial murderer who hunted Glasgow's Barrowland Ballroom at the time picking up women, then killing them, leaving their bodies to rot on the street. Three women's deaths are attributed to him, although police suspect there may be more throughout Scotland.

All women were menstrating at the time of their deaths and Bible John is quoted saying he disapproved of the Barrowland clientele Thursday nights because of the pick-ups that went on there by married folk and also is remembered quoting passages from the Christian Bible.

A few suspects came up (one committed suicide in 1980) but no conclusive proof to pin any of them. The case still remains unsolved to this day to the best of my knowledge.

Anyone have further details on any of these unexplained disappearances?

http://www.qsl.net/w5www/disappearances.html

Some of the same plus some others:

http://bigunreal.tripod.com/disa.html

It seems what happened to Dennis Martin is not as paranormal as the above account would have: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jun/28/missing-dennis-martin/

His story is very similar to one familiar to me since childhood. In this case the disappearance is believed to be caused by a serial killer. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bowman_thomas.html

The missing Eskimo village would have been a very good segment! I love that story.

I haven't read the entire thread, but I will make that my goal for today and tomorrow.

The case I most want featured is Anna Waters. She was 6 when she disappeared from her front yard in January 1973.

http://www.searchingforanna.com/

I'm doing everything I can think of to try to get any new info, and I think Unsolved Mysteries would be a big help in that.

Anyone have further details on any of these unexplained disappearances?

http://www.qsl.net/w5www/disappearances.html

Some of the same plus some others:

http://bigunreal.tripod.com/disa.html

It seems what happened to Dennis Martin is not as paranormal as the above account would have: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jun/28/missing-dennis-martin/

His story is very similar to one familiar to me since childhood. In this case the disappearance is believed to be caused by a serial killer. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bowman_thomas.html

I found this about the Crowden Family. Apparently their bodies were found 7 1/2 to 8 months later with the mom and two kids hidden in a cave and the dad on a steep hillside. They'd been shot. That info (and more) is here (http://officialcoldcaseinvestigations.com/showthread.php?t=2392).

I remember reading about Orion Williamson when I was about 7 years old and I have been spooked by that ever since. As far as I know, that's a legitimate story.

Thanks for posting that about the Crowden family. That's sad, but good that they didn't vanish into thin air.

Here, again, are some of the same stories along with some others: http://listverse.com/2007/10/06/top-10-bizarre-disappearances/

About Orion Williamson I dunno, this says that his and several other well-known disappearance stories originated with Ambrose Bierce, who may have intended them only as realistic-sounding fiction. http://www.strangehorizons.com/2008/20080512/kensler-a.shtml Another Ambrose Bierce story, "The Spook House," among the most absolutely terrifying ever penned, has the house in question being destroyed during the war, effectively eliminating any evidence. If this disappearance really took place in Selma, you'd think there'd be some stir about it, a marker commemorating the spot, or the like. Since nothing seems to have panned out, I sadly resign myself to regarding these stories as fiction. Previously I had taken them as gospel and they gave me many uneasy moments.

By the way, there was an Orion Williamson in Alabama, but about 40 years later and only very briefly: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Williamson&GSfn=Orion&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=3&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=11019769&df=all& Makes me wonder if an earlier person there could have had the same name.

I first came across this website recounting the story of the mysterious disappearance of David Lang, with which I've long been familiar but knew was debunked as a hoax, but this claimed it was derived from the earlier, supposedly substantiated story of Orion Williamson: http://www.suite101.com/content/david-l ... ax-a101110

Then this website gets my hopes all up by swearing the same, that the urban legend of David Lang derived from the true story of Orion Williamson: http://www.prairieghosts.com/bierce.html

Then the website cited above (second link) dashes my hopes by saying Orion Williamson was a "joke" invented by Ambrose Bierce, and that several of the best-known "mysterious vanishings" stories also originate with him.

The first site cites the court case involving Willamson's estate as proof of his existence. The last site, the author of which claims to have checked newspaper and census records and turned up nothing, says nothing of court records. If the case supposedly took place in 1854 and nothing turned up in print till 1888, that in itself is suspicious. A lot of soldiers came through Selma during the Civil War and had the story already been known then some of them, or people involved in it, should have mentioned it.

At least the county courthouse of that time was not burned during the Civil War, but abandoned after it, so not sure how well court records previous to then were kept. http://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?marker=23010

Does anyone know whether court records are kept only in the county courthouse where the hearings took place, or are copies collected in some state archive, and how long has this been done?

Either way, I think I'm bummed! Certainly I should be glad that these events didn't happen and no real family had to go through this, let alone the notoriety which would gather around the place. I'm also glad mysterious black holes are, it seems, not hanging around waiting to swallow up people going from Point A to Point B, but overall I'm let down. One more creepy tale taken as gospel in childhood now taken away in adulthood...one less mystery to ponder. :(

This case is one that I have been reviewing for close to a year now.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98905

A woman is found shot in the back of the head and left on a popular hiking trail close to 30 years ago. Her name and her killer remain unsolved to this day. There have been a lot of ideas who and where she came from but nothing still makes sense.

Talk about a cold case...

Here is an article (http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/angels/albert_einstein_medical_center/1_index.html) about a serial killer in the ICU of Albert Einstein Medical Center in the Bronx, NY in the 1970s. He/she killed at least 5 patients recovering from surgery by administering unprescribed doses of heparin and causing them to bleed to death. The investigation was never completed, the families of the victims were never notified that their loved ones were murdered, and there are no known records of the case or the identities of the victims. There were a few key suspects, but the investigators and hospital officials involved will not reveal them.

I'm actually shocked that UM never covered the story of the missing Sodder children from 1945. I know it's a very old case, but you won't find a more bizarre unsolved mystery than this one! The Sodder family has their house burned down on Christmas Eve, and five out of their ten children just vanish without a trace! Very few human remains are found and one of them turns to be a beef liver!
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sodder_louis.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sodder_maurice.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sodder_jennie.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sodder_betty.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sodder_martha.html

Seriously, this may have been one of their greatest segments of all time if they had covered it.

One of the more unusual missing person's cases -- Mary Shotwell Little:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/little_mary.html

Richard Colvin Cox, the only West Point Cadet who is still officially missing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Colvin_Cox

Annette Sagers, a child who disappeared in 1988 from the same location where her (missing) mother's vehicle had been found a year prior.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sagers_annette.html

Joseph McStay, his wife and their two children went missing in strange circumstances:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcstay_joseph.html

Robin Graham, whose car ran out of gas on the freeway. I don't buy into the Zodiac killer theory, but it could possibly be linked to Rose Tashman's murder (in a nearby location and similar circumstances) in 1969:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/graham_robin.html


Hall-Mills Murders Sept. 14 1922 New Brunswick, New Jersey


I was disappointed that UM never profiled this one.

Here is one I only just heard of. There are probably lots like it.

http://www.facebook.com/LauriePartridgeMissing

Sorry if this is redundant, but how about the Roanoke disappearances of colonial America? Very eerie and mysterious. Obviously old but quite interesting.

Sorry if this is redundant, but how about the Roanoke disappearances of colonial America? Very eerie and mysterious. Obviously old but quite interesting.

I agree. When I was a kid in elementary school, that story would give me the creeps. Especially when the settlers found "Croatoan" carved int he tree. I always thought that story should be made into a movie as well.

I agree. When I was a kid in elementary school, that story would give me the creeps. Especially when the settlers found "Croatoan" carved int he tree. I always thought that story should be made into a movie as well.

Same here. I'll never forget my fifth grade history book talking about it and "Croatoan" and "Cro" carved into the trees. The Native American abduction theory is always a possibility, but it's crazy that absolutely no trace was ever uncovered. And it would definitely make a great movie!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hartley_evelyn.html

Absolutely one of the scariest cases I've seen on the Charley Project. To think after almost 60 years the case is still unsolved. With the house in such disarray and the evidence around, the outcome is grim. Would have made a very mysterious segment for UM!

The disappearance of Barbara Newhall Follett, a child genius and author who met a mysterious end at a young age.
WHOA! I'm sure you didn't mean it, but the is link is now definitely not an article :eek: Other users beware!

I saw this while skimming a Houston news site:
http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/North-Texas-community-mourns-young-mom-whose-death-remains-a-mystery-136908248.html
Intriguing

I am surprised that UM didn't cover the Zeb Quinn case. (Thank you Disappeared)

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/q/quinn_zebb.html

The case is just plain odd, especially with the puppy being found in his vehicle.

The ryan ferguson case.

Google the mystery on halloween night and watch the video. It will tick you off.

Ryan Ferguson is in jail for a murder he did not commit. He is only in jail because another man named Chuck Erickson who had a drug problem at the time dreamt that they commited the murder. Chuck was fed facts by the police and didn't know anthing about the crime. there was no dna evidence. Ferguson passed a polygraph test and evidence that proves he was innocent. Most recently chuck has stated he made the whole thing up. yet ferguson still sits in jail. very sad.

I'd like to see one on Glenn Miller.

Definitely the case of Maura Murray!
There are so many strange aspects to her disappearance.