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Pavan 09-02-2008, 01:12 AM This could be the major TV Land announcement that people have been telling me that TV Land announced on their message boards that will happen soon. We'll have more on it when the press release comes out, so don't make any judgments until they announce, but it seems 50% of their programming will be originals soon:
From WSJ:
Viacom Inc.'s TV Land cable network is set to announce a new programming strategy this week -- scaling back its traditional emphasis on nostalgia in pursuit of younger viewers.
The new programming plan, which the network plans to present to advertisers this week, will more than triple the number of hours of original programming on TV Land's prime-time schedule. By the end of 2009, TV Land -- which has for years served baby boomers a diet heavy with shows from their youth -- wants to fill half its prime-time lineup with original programming, up from about 15% today and 4% in 2007.
Aimed primarily at people in their mid-40s -- the younger end of the boomer spectrum, which spans those born from 1946 through 1964 -- the new slate includes reality shows like "The Cougar," in which a fortysomething woman picks among younger bachelors, and series pilots like "First Love/Second Chance," which reunites long-lost lovers. The channel's also importing reruns of more recent shows, like the '90s-era "Friends." And it is exploring creating its own sitcom.
Viacom's investment in the new programming comes as TV Land has put in a robust performance in a challenging advertising climate. Viacom posted disappointing U.S. ad-revenue growth of only 1% in the second quarter. But TV Land's ad revenue grew faster than that of younger-skewing Viacom channels like MTV, in part, the company says, because TV Land has benefited from viewers shifting to cable networks from broadcast TV.
When it started in 1996, TV Land found quick success as a 24-hour network dedicated entirely to TV throwbacks like "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and "M*A*S*H." But in recent years, old reruns have become old hat. The entirety of "The Andy Griffith Show" is available on DVD; "The A-Team" streams free on hulu.com. And classic-TV viewers have been getting older, pushing the median age of TV Land watchers in prime-time above 55 in 2007, according to Nielsen Media Research. That's relatively high even for a network targeting baby boomers.
The new strategy, approved by Viacom brass in a series of long-range planning meetings earlier this summer, is intended to help the channel expand its audience, lower its viewers' median age by increasing the number of shows that attract people in their mid-40s, and pursue new advertisers that will pay higher prices for original fare.
"Putting more original television on a channel dedicated to classic television is a risk in some ways," says Doug Herzog, president of MTV Networks Entertainment Group, which includes TV Land. "But the idea is to bring new people into the tent."
With the new series, Jeff Lucas, who oversees TV Land's ad sales, says he's targeting companies like videogame publishers, fast-food restaurants and movie studios, which are a contrast to some of the low-cost advertisers TV Land has attracted in the past. In recent years, those have included companies that sell mobility scooters often used by senior citizens. In 2007, MTV, which airs more original content and targets a younger audience than TV Land, had 24-hour average ad rates per viewer more than four times TV Land's, according to estimates in a report from SNL Kagan last month.
TV Land had gross advertising revenue of about $213 million in 2007, according to Derek Baine, a senior analyst at SNL Kagan. Viacom's media networks had a total of nearly $4.7 billion in ad revenue in 2007.
Slowing ad growth at channels with younger audiences didn't affect the decision to invest in TV Land, says Viacom Chief Executive Philippe Dauman. "The move to TV Land is not because we think one [demographic] is going down. It's an opportunity to do more," he says. The expansion of original programming is part of a broader Viacom strategy to invest in smaller brands that have "a lot of room to grow," he adds.
"We go through economic cycles -- you get slowdowns and accelerations. This is more long-range thinking," Mr. Dauman says.
TV Land's president, Larry W. Jones, has pushed to add more original series for a few years. Adding original hours has already helped lower the channel's primetime median age slightly in 2008, according to Nielsen. One big focus of the new original shows will be dating and romance. ("Your libido doesn't leave you after 35," says Mr. Herzog of MTV Networks' entertainment group.)
Though most boomers still fit in the audience of 25- to 54-year-olds that TV Land sells to advertisers, the network now plans to avoid the moniker altogether. "Boomers don't like to be called 'boomers,'" says Mr. Herzog.
Schmoopie 09-02-2008, 02:04 AM I can see where the older TV series wouldn't be as popular, but that was the whole idea behind this station! What makes them think that people in their 40's want to watch "original" programming? I don't. I'd rather watch the classics!
Andrea
DigitalBean05 09-02-2008, 09:03 AM My parents fit this age range, and they complain and roll their eyes at every original program that TV Land produces. They'd much rather watch "Bonanza" or "Andy Griffith."
I find the current programming ridiculous myself. None of their original programming is appealing. They should stick with the classics.
dakert 09-02-2008, 09:25 AM Dont young people today like the old 50s-70s shows?
When I was a youth in the 1970s I loved re-runs of Monkees, Beaver, Father knows best, bewitched, Flinstones, Lost In Space etc...
Pavan 09-02-2008, 10:17 AM I would not be surprised if the following is announced this week:
a.) TV Land name change
b.) Original series announcements
c.) Newer off-network series announcements
d.) Moving most classics to TVLand.com
e.) Announcement of a TV Land Classic onDemand/digital channel
We shall see what stirs up.
storrs19 09-02-2008, 11:18 AM What a pathetic joke of a channel. I was just watching some "My Three Sons" episodes taped from TVLand when it was a good channel and some of them still have the commercials telling of the other classic shows being aired on the channel. This channel has just gone kaput like so many others I won't even bother to name as we all know them.
No wonder I wear out a dvd player every six months (and I buy good ones too). I guess I will keep buying my dvd sets (legit and grey area ones) and keep making my own programming on a daily basis. Oh well, I guess I will get off my soapbox now and continue on my way. Thanks for the update Pav and as always keep us informed.
storrs19 09-02-2008, 11:20 AM Dont young people today like the old 50s-70s shows?
When I was a youth in the 1970s I loved re-runs of Monkees, Beaver, Father knows best, bewitched, Flinstones, Lost In Space etc...
I will be 37 in a few weeks so I am not sure which demographic I fit in but I really only watch television shows made before 1990 and really like the old black and white ones the best. They are what I watched growing up and still like. I guess I am just not the "norm" that most programmers are trying to appeal to though.
JulieSomoski 09-02-2008, 12:48 PM Pavan, I know you told us not to make judgments quite yet, but I can't stand this. TV Land is a little, tiny, pathetic network that does nothing to fit what its viewers want. They are so out of touch with their viewers, and they don't get it - their real hard-core, loyal from the start fans DO NOT WANT original programming! I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. And even worse, their original programming ideas (as mentioned in the article) are nothing but cheap dating shows - like we really need more of those. Don't we already have enough of them on MTV and VH1? What's the point?
So what exactly does this mean? Does it mean that the classics will be gone by the end of the year? Will this network be nothing but repeats of their old reality shows? I can just see the schedule filled with old repeats of Family Foreman and I Pity the Fool :eek:
I think this means the near end for shows like The Jeffersons and All in the Family. I bet Andy Griffith, MASH, and Beverly Hillbillies will be the only 3 classic shows to remain on the network. Everything else we can pretty much say goodbye too. :mad:
Pavan 09-02-2008, 12:55 PM They still will have classics, but not as much as now. They want to fill primetime (8-11p) with 50% of original series, up from the 15% now. Right now it is just Wednesdays at 10...expect maybe at the least a weeknight hour each of originals in the future. More newer series will also join, like the likes of Scrubs and Friends. The classic stuff I'm guessing will be in the morning and afternoons with newer reruns in the early evenings and late nights, and mostly originals in primetime with a mix of reruns (classic and newer). A full picture should be known soon.
JulieSomoski 09-02-2008, 01:11 PM They still will have classics, but not as much as now. They want to fill primetime (8-11p) with 50% of original series, up from the 15% now. Right now it is just Wednesdays at 10...expect maybe at the least a weeknight hour each of originals in the future. More newer series will also join, like the likes of Scrubs and Friends. The classic stuff I'm guessing will be in the morning and afternoons with newer reruns in the early evenings and late nights, and mostly originals in primetime with a mix of reruns (classic and newer). A full picture should be known soon.
Still, don't they realize that we don't want reality programming? I wouldn't be surprised to see 8pm-10pm every night of the week reality shows. I think the more successful classics like TAGS and MASH will take over the daytime hours, where shows like The Jeffersons and Good Times, which already air on a limited basis, will be only shown online.
Pavan 09-02-2008, 01:20 PM Julie, the original series do better than the reruns in ratings in primetime and lower their median age. They'll still have reruns, but primetime will have less and less in the near future. Not all of their original series are "reality." They have some good ones like TV Land Top 10, Myths & Legends and TV Land Confidential.
JulieSomoski 09-02-2008, 01:32 PM Julie, the original series do better than the reruns in ratings in primetime and lower their median age. They'll still have reruns, but primetime will have less and less in the near future. Not all of their original series are "reality." They have some good ones like TV Land Top 10, Myths & Legends and TV Land Confidential.
If they could keep it to the 3 you listed, that wouldn't be bad, because those are the best ones they've had to date. But if they continue to produce new reality series like the ones you said (a bunch of old woman dating younger men???), then their primetime lineup is going to go to trash very soon. And I don't understand why they want to lower their median age so much. Andy Griffith and MASH have always done well for them in primetime, so why push them out now? I'm in their category if baby boomers, and I'd much rather watch the classics.
If they even took one look at their message boards, they would realize that people want to see the classic shows. They say they're trying to reach out to their viewers, but they have no idea what their viewers want.
Pavan 09-02-2008, 01:42 PM There have been some good reality series too though, like My First Time (TV stars relive their first gigs), Living in TV Land (following the life of a TV star) and Back to the Grind (classic TV actors do their classic TV job in real life). I even kind of liked Chasing Farrah and I Pity the Fool. They will probably still focus on TV stars, too, but since shows like High School Reunion and other reality boomer shows did well, TV Land is trying them.
The lower the median age, the better ad revenue. It is all about money. 10 years ago or even 5 years ago, Andy Griffith would have been fine in primetime, but now shows like that have viewers that are over 60 in age. TV Land is probably looking for 50 or under now...maybe 45.
JulieSomoski 09-02-2008, 01:47 PM There have been some good reality series too though, like My First Time (TV stars relive their first gigs), Living in TV Land (following the life of a TV star) and Back to the Grind (classic TV actors do their classic TV job in real life). I even kind of liked Chasing Farrah and I Pity the Fool. They will probably still focus on TV stars, too, but since shows like High School Reunion and other reality boomer shows did well, TV Land is trying them.
The lower the median age, the better ad revenue. It is all about money. 10 years ago or even 5 years ago, Andy Griffith would have been fine in primetime, but now shows like that have viewers that are over 60 in age. TV Land is probably looking for 50 or under now...maybe 45.
I know money is what's important, but TV Land started out as an all-classic channel, and now seem to be trying to be an all-reality channel. It's disappointing for the fans that watched it since 1996.
Do you really think a name-change will be announced? I think if they want to move ahead with more reality in primetime and such, they should change their name, just to let viewers know they're not the same network they were 10 years ago. It would be the last straw for me and this network, but I think it's in store.
Pavan 09-02-2008, 02:05 PM Julie, it doesn't say an all-reality channel, though. It says 50% of PRIMETIME will be originals. I wouldn't be surprised if they changed their name, like I mentioned before. However to me the TV Land name would still work, the name "TV Land" doesn't mention anything classic TV in its name, so it is universal. Now if the name of the channel was "Classic TV," then they would have to change their name. All TV channels change their focus at some point, I guess, to grab ratings & more ad revenue and TV Land's ratings have been not too good for their reruns for a while now.
TeeVeeCloset 09-02-2008, 03:12 PM There have been some good reality series too though, like My First Time (TV stars relive their first gigs), Living in TV Land (following the life of a TV star) and Back to the Grind (classic TV actors do their classic TV job in real life). I even kind of liked Chasing Farrah and I Pity the Fool. They will probably still focus on TV stars, too, but since shows like High School Reunion and other reality boomer shows did well, TV Land is trying them.
The lower the median age, the better ad revenue. It is all about money. 10 years ago or even 5 years ago, Andy Griffith would have been fine in primetime, but now shows like that have viewers that are over 60 in age. TV Land is probably looking for 50 or under now...maybe 45.
Pav...you know I have tremendous respect and truly admire your work here BUT to say Andy Griffith Show viewers, etc are now over 60 is extremely short sighted......that series and similar ones like I Love Lucy were made 50 years ago and have hardly ever left the airwaves since....they are multi-generational.....considered evergreen programming...they have discovered new audiences with each generation...I know you perhaps like to stay impartial and not take sides, yet you defend TV Land and their abandoment of their original direction and purpose. Many people believe MTV should play music videos, VH-1 should not be a reality channel, etc. I have no problem with TV Land changing directions like all viacom owned channels....but to say classic TV mostly has viewers over 60 is a uneducated statement and I expect much more from you. To further illustrate my point, if that statement were true then why would you, a person I believe to be under age 30 have any interest in a 30+ year old series called "Three's Company"? Again written with much respect....
icecream 09-02-2008, 03:18 PM Here is the announcement from TVLand's website.
http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=asktvlthelink&thread.id=3300
nickandmore 09-02-2008, 03:36 PM TV Land Advances Network Evolution With 'TV Land PRIME' on October 6
New Primetime Programming Destination Will Feature Original Programming And Contemporary Acquisitions
NEW YORK, Sept. 2 -- TV Land announced today the launch of TV Land PRIME, a new primetime programming block designed to appeal to the attitudes, life stage and interests of people in their 40s and 50s, catering specifically to people in their mid-40s. Debuting October 6, this primetime destination will feature original programming such as TV Land hit franchises "High School Reunion," "She's Got The Look" and the upcoming series "The Cougar," acquired television series such as "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition," "Scrubs" and "That 70s Show" and theatrical releases including "Analyze This," "Titanic" and "Independence Day."
Equipped with a new logo, color scheme and on-air graphics program, TV Land PRIME will air Monday through Friday, 9pm to midnight beginning October 6 on TV Land. TV Land PRIME's programming is defined as entertaining, engaging, escapist and most importantly -- targeted for this Adult demographic -- a dynamic group with unmatched purchasing power. Moving forward, all of TV Land's original programming, contemporary television series acquisitions and movies will premiere solely in this daypart.
"MTV Networks has always connected deeply through original content for a wide range of audiences, so the new step for TV Land to embrace adults in their 40s and 50s is a smart and dynamic move," states Judy McGrath, MTV Networks chairman and CEO. "TV Land is a priority and a vital part of the MTV Networks roster."
"TV Land PRIME is a natural progression of the TV Land brand," said Larry W. Jones, president, TV Land. "We have had great success with our original programming like 'High School Reunion' and 'She's Got The Look,' so we are thrilled to continue to create provocative new shows and air them alongside proven hits as we build a channel for this targeted Adult audience."
New and returning original series and pilots commissioned for TV Land PRIME include:
SERIES:
"High School Reunion" -- The second season of this successful TV Land original series brings together high school alumni from Chandler, Arizona 20 years after their graduation as they gather for two weeks for an exotic vacation getaway in Kauai, HI. The eight-episode series is slated to premiere in early 2009 and reunites classmates from all walks and stages of life who have issues to address and resolve since their high school days. Executive produced by Mike Fleiss ("The Bachelor") in association with Warner Horizon Television.
"She's Got The Look" -- Back for a second season, and growing from six episodes to eight, this series is done in collaboration with Wilhelmina Models, Inc., and sets out to discover a sophisticated, beautiful and confident woman 35 or older destined to become the next great supermodel. The winner will receive a lucrative modeling contract with Wilhelmina Models, Inc. and a photo spread in a national magazine. Executive produced by Allison Grodner ("Big Brother").
"The Cougar" -- An elimination dating series where eligible young men vie for the attention of a sexy and accomplished mature woman. Through a series of creative and romantic challenges, men will be eliminated each week -- all at the discretion of the Cougar. The eight episode series is executive produced by Mike Fleiss ("The Bachelor") in association with Warner Horizon Television.
"Myths & Legends" -- Premiering October 8 at 10:00pm (previously announced to air August 27), this original series is back for a second season with seven brand new episodes. "Myths & Legends" answers all those burning questions that have been endlessly lurking in the minds of pop culture junkies for years. Questions discussed include: Did heavy metal rocker Ozzy Osbourne bite the head off a live bat? Was Jayne Mansfield decapitated in her fatal automobile accident? Is J. Lo's best "asset" insured for over a million dollars? Executive produced by Gay Rosenthal Productions ("Little People, Big World").
PILOTS:
"First Love/Second Chance" -- This pilot gives long-lost sweethearts an opportunity to rekindle their romance -- years later. Whether it is unrequited love or a relationship that ended badly, the couples decide if there's still a romantic link after all these years and answer the question, "What could have been?" Produced by Granada Entertainment USA ("Celebrity Fit Club" and "Hell's Kitchen").
"What's in the Box" -- TV Land PRIME's first game show pilot features individual contestants squaring off in the ultimate, fast-paced 20-question competition. Through a series of pointed yes or no answers to questions like, "Does it move?" or "Is it man-made?," the players must figure out what's in the box without giving their opponent the upper-hand -- all for a cash jackpot and a chance to win a fabulous grand prize. Executive produced by Bunim/Murray ("Real World," "Living Lohan," "Keeping Up With the Kardashians").
"Make My Day" -- This show provides a window into one day in the life of an unsuspecting participant. Hidden cameras capture the action as contestants are put through a series of weird coincidences, extraordinary situations and surprise appearances. Executive produced by Michael Davies ("Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?," "Life Swap," "Power of 10") with Monkey Kingdom.
"I've Got Your Number" -- This reality pilot based on a British format proves the theory that there is a 76% chance that you already have the number of the person you're going to marry in your cell phone. Produced by FremantleMedia ("American Idol," "America's Got Talent").
"How Rich Are You?" -- We've all driven by an enormous home and asked the question, "Who lives there?" This show unveils the truth about the people who occupy these homes, what else they own and reveals how they went from average Americans to mega-moguls. Executive produced by Mark Burnett ("Survivor," "The Apprentice") and Zoo TV.
"Now or Never" -- Empty nesters are given the chance of a lifetime to open a new chapter in their lives by pursuing careers they always dreamed of, but never dared to pursue. In each installment, couples try out their dream jobs, a new place to live and a whole new social scene before making the gut- wrenching decision of which path to follow. Produced by RDF USA ("Wife Swap").
"Boomerangers" -- TV Land PRIME explores the exploding occurrence of "boomerang kids," young adults who return home from college to live with their parents. Cameras capture the parents and kids who are, once again, together under the same roof. Cast contingent. Produced by Evolution Media ("The Real Housewives of Orange County").
Contemporary acquisitions slated to air in TV Land PRIME include hit series "That 70's Show," "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition," "Scrubs," "Friends" and "Third Rock from the Sun." Theatrical releases on TV Land PRIME will include "Ray," "A River Runs Through It," "Love Actually," "Analyze This" and "Jerry Maguire."
TV Land PRIME will offer advertising and sponsorship opportunities beyond the traditional 30 second commercial spot. Key advertisers will be able to integrate their marketing messages into the network's programming in unique ways during TV Land PRIME, including product integration, co-branded interstitials and convergent on-air and online opportunities.
Online, viewers can visit TVLand.com to fully experience the programming in TV Land PRIME. TVLand.com includes a mix of features such as exclusive original and acquired video content, games, trivia, photos, entertainment news and the ability to connect with other fans to offer a rich entertainment experience.
About TV Land:
TV Land is dedicated to presenting the best in entertainment on all platforms for consumers in their 40s and 50s. Armed with a slate of original programming, acquired classic shows, hit movies and full-service web site, TV Land is now seen in over 90 million U.S. homes. For up-to-the-minute and archival press information including releases and photographs, please visit TV Land's press-only Web site at www.tvlandpress.com.
About MTV Networks
MTV Networks, a unit of Viacom (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), is one of the world's leading creators of entertainment content, with brands that engage and connect diverse audiences across television, online, mobile, games, virtual worlds and consumer products. The company's portfolio spans more than 150 television channels and 350 digital media properties worldwide, and includes MTV, VH1, CMT, Logo, Harmonix, Nickelodeon, Nick at Nite, Noggin, The N, AddictingGames, Neopets, COMEDY CENTRAL, Spike TV, TV Land, Atom, Gametrailers and Xfire.
SOURCE TV Land
JulieSomoski 09-02-2008, 03:43 PM What is up with all those reality show pilots? That's like way too many for any network to have at one time. I don't even think NBC had that many pilots for the fall season :lol:
I still don't fully understand this deal. Is a schedule change in place for October or what? I guess that these reality shows will be rolling out one at a time, right? At least they didn't change the name - and as long as the classic shows that I and many others watch the network for continue to air in the afternoon and morning slots, I guess I'll be okay. This is still a step in the wrong direction for TV Land.
sunshinefizzy 09-02-2008, 03:52 PM Overstating the obvious, Tvland was great, now it sucks and is going to keep on sucking!!!
Pavan 09-02-2008, 04:37 PM Pav...you know I have tremendous respect and truly admire your work here BUT to say Andy Griffith Show viewers, etc are now over 60 is extremely short sighted......that series and similar ones like I Love Lucy were made 50 years ago and have hardly ever left the airwaves since....they are multi-generational.....considered evergreen programming...they have discovered new audiences with each generation...I know you perhaps like to stay impartial and not take sides, yet you defend TV Land and their abandoment of their original direction and purpose. Many people believe MTV should play music videos, VH-1 should not be a reality channel, etc. I have no problem with TV Land changing directions like all viacom owned channels....but to say classic TV mostly has viewers over 60 is a uneducated statement and I expect much more from you. To further illustrate my point, if that statement were true then why would you, a person I believe to be under age 30 have any interest in a 30+ year old series called "Three's Company"? Again written with much respect....
I am not stating that, TV Land is. They sent out an average median age for each of their series (that I'm not allowed to post, since it is not for public use) and Andy Griffith's average median age on TV Land was over 60. Some of the other older ones were Hillbillies and M*A*S*H. This is the reason they want to move series like these out of primetime and help them be younger in primetime. I'm not saying they will remove these shows...but they are not primetime material for TV Land anymore.
Come on TeeVeeCloset, you should know that networks try to strive to be younger these days in primetime. TV Land will still air the classics in other dayparts.
Pavan 09-02-2008, 04:39 PM What is up with all those reality show pilots? That's like way too many for any network to have at one time. I don't even think NBC had that many pilots for the fall season :lol:
I still don't fully understand this deal. Is a schedule change in place for October or what? I guess that these reality shows will be rolling out one at a time, right? At least they didn't change the name - and as long as the classic shows that I and many others watch the network for continue to air in the afternoon and morning slots, I guess I'll be okay. This is still a step in the wrong direction for TV Land.
There are no edits being made to the current Oct. 6 schedule because Home Edition and 3rd Rock is slated to join then and that is when this TV Land Prime will start in primetime. 9p-12a is TV Land Prime block: Scrubs 2x, 3rd Rock 2x and EM: Home. Edition...with Cosby Show leading in and leading out of this block at 8 and 12.
As for those pilots, they are just that. A batch they can "pick from" for consideration. Some will air, some will never air. None of those have yet to be picked-up as series. You can expect for sure the series listed as "Series" to come and air in primetime for sure...but the pilots depend on how they are done.
I'll explain it in detail tomorrow on the blog.
JulieSomoski 09-02-2008, 04:43 PM There are no edits being made to the current Oct. 6 schedule because Home Edition is slated to join then and that is when this TV Land Prime will start in primetime.
As for those pilots, they are just that. A batch they can "pick from" for consideration. Some will air, some will never air. None of those have yet to be picked-up as series. You can expect for sure the series listed as "Series" to come and air in primetime for sure...but the pilots depend on how they are done.
Do you know if they'll be advertising the TV Land prime block, or will it just premiere with a logo in the corner saying "TV Land Prime?"
Some of the pilots sound okay, but some sound absolutely horrible. "The Couger" is one of the bad ones - I don't know who would want to watch a show like that. It reminds me of "Age of Love" that aired last summer.
DSfan 09-02-2008, 04:50 PM Some of those new reality pilots acutally sound intriguing to me.
Isn't there some sort of limit to the number of stations allowed to air That 70s Show, eventually we will be able to watch all 8 seasons in one M-F cycle LOL.
Does anybody know if TV Land Canada is automatically thrown into this change or is TV Land Canada owned by a different company?
Pavan 09-02-2008, 04:51 PM Oh I know they will advertise the new TV Land Prime block. As of now this is all that is known: "Equipped with a new logo, color scheme and on-air graphics program, TV Land PRIME will air Monday through Friday, 9pm to midnight beginning October 6 on TV Land."
The Cougar has already been picked-up to series, so you'll see that for sure. That is past the pilot phase. Those 7 pilots listed under "Pilot" are in development and have not been ordered to series as of yet...and only a few of those probably will.
DSfan: That '70s Show is going to be shared with Viacom's The N...so no new deal, just some more Viacom borrowing...just like how Friends will be borrowed from Nick at Nite in 2011. TV Land Canada has nothing to do with this. It is not owned by Viacom.
JulieSomoski 09-02-2008, 04:55 PM Some of those new reality pilots acutally sound intriguing to me.
Isn't there some sort of limit to the number of stations allowed to air That 70s Show, eventually we will be able to watch all 8 seasons in one M-F cycle LOL.
Does anybody know if TV Land Canada is automatically thrown into this change or is TV Land Canada owned by a different company?
Some of the pilots do actually sound good - What's in the Box? sounds like it would be a great gameshow for TV Land. "I've got your Number" sounds interesting, too, but I don't think it could make it as a show. It sounds more like a cell phone game to me-LOL
Mr. Television 09-02-2008, 05:25 PM More reasons for me not to watch TV Land. :ohno:
dawsongirl 09-02-2008, 06:17 PM More reality! More reality that's already been done by other networks! WOOHOO!
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I can't see my parents watching dating shows. Well, maybe my dad... ohno: But then he also loves him some Bonanza.
dawsongirl 09-02-2008, 06:22 PM Is Viacom trying to beat Fox in the "Who can have the most reality shows?" contest? Between TVL, MTV, and VH1, that seems like reality is all they do now.
DSfan 09-02-2008, 09:35 PM That '70s Show is going to be shared with Viacom's The N...so no new deal, just some more Viacom borrowing...just like how Friends will be borrowed from Nick at Nite in 2011. TV Land Canada has nothing to do with this. It is not owned by Viacom.
Good to know, thanks for the info. I hope they pick up the show where they see if you have the number of the person you might end up marrying. I will try to watch some of TV Land's new originals, if they pick up the ones that I want to see, on the internet, or if they come to TV Land Canada, which won't happen.
janet42 09-02-2008, 09:56 PM I hope that TV Land will keep some of the classics. If not I guess we will have to wait until RTN channel becomes available to our areas. I heard that this channel will have more classics shows that TV Land. :)
James28 09-02-2008, 11:02 PM Even in their new format, do you think TV Land will still get reruns of One Day at a Time to their network?
Schmoopie 09-03-2008, 01:52 AM More reasons for me not to watch TV Land. :ohno:
Me too! I used to wish I had this station, but not any more! :mumble: They really should change their name if they are going in this direction. Kind of like when AMC (then American Movie Classics) started showing all sorts of movies (and commercials) which REALLY got me mad! I do like the station now that they show pretty good movies, and they are showing "Mad Men" (BTW is there a board for Mad Men?:confused: ), But I think they should change their name, because "American Movie Classics" doesn't fit anymore-and AMC really doesn't make much sense!
Andrea
Janice 09-03-2008, 02:38 AM A very rich person should buy a network, two in fact, and put older shows from the 50s through the 70s on one, and shows from the 80s to 2000 on the other. There's a demand. I often wonder why someone doesn't do that.
storrs19 09-03-2008, 09:12 AM You want to know why phony reality shows are so preveleant? They are CHEAP to produce and rake in tons of advertising money. TVLand is just following in the tradition of so many other channels that started out great and went downhill. Some have went faster than others and a few (Fox Movie Channel and Turner Classic Movies) have still remained true to their customers. Seeing as I have not watched TVLand for years now (except when I attempted to watch a few episodes of The Jeffersons and was turned off by the random endless commercial breaks inserted at the wrong places) I won't be missing anything. I gave up on television a few years ago and just watch dvd sets any more except for sporting events.
TVFactFan 09-03-2008, 09:47 AM Well If Classic TV is only on in the morning and afternoon then I will defintely have no reason to change the channel to TV land. But I guess I see why it's happening, because the original programming is working which I was hoping it wouldn;t
TVFactFan 09-03-2008, 09:52 AM well as long as TV land still airs classic tv at midnight then I'm cool. Now when it becomes a relaity network that's when I'm gone.
Pavan 09-03-2008, 10:23 AM This is TV Land PRIME's launch schedule...so you can see it is not all that bad...just 3 hours:
Effective Monday, Oct. 6
Mon-Fri
9:00pm Scrubs
9:30pm Scrubs
10:00pm 3rd Rock from the Sun (Mon-Tues, Thurs); TV Land's Myths & Legends NEW (Wed); MovieLand (Fri)
10:30pm 3rd Rock from the Sun (Mon-Tues, Thurs); High School Reunion ENCORE (Wed); MovieLand cont. (Fri)
11:00pm Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (Mon-Tues, Thurs); High School Reunion ENCORE cont. (Wed); MovieLand cont. (Fri)
11:30pm Extreme Makeover: Home Edition cont. (Mon-Tues, Thurs); Extreme Makeover: Home Edition thru 12:30 (Wed); MovieLand cont. (Fri)
Saturdays
8:00-10:00pm Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (two-hour episodes)
10:00pm Myths & Legends ENCORE
10:30pm Myths & Legends ENCORE
11:00pm Scrubs
11:30pm Scrubs
Sundays in primetime is classic TV.
B&W fan 09-03-2008, 11:09 AM You want to know why phony reality shows are so preveleant? They are CHEAP to produce and rake in tons of advertising money. TVLand is just following in the tradition of so many other channels that started out great and went downhill. Some have went faster than others and a few (Fox Movie Channel and Turner Classic Movies) have still remained true to their customers. Seeing as I have not watched TVLand for years now (except when I attempted to watch a few episodes of The Jeffersons and was turned off by the random endless commercial breaks inserted at the wrong places) I won't be missing anything. I gave up on television a few years ago and just watch dvd sets any more except for sporting events.
You are spot on with those remarks, Storrs19. TVLand is running with reality shows because they are very cheap to make, they do bring in commercial dollars, and unfortunately the younger generation loves them. The last part makes no sense to me, but it is what it is. People like to watch other people in real life situations. It's the rubber necking syndrome I guess.
Like you, I haven't watched TVLand in years and years. So if they are after younger viewers at the expense of older ones (I'm 43) then they've accomplished their goal in my household. We only watch dvds except for sports, the news, and Turner Classic Movies. Having said that, there are plenty of vintage TV shows that are NOT out on dvd and TVLand could still capitalize on that if they had a mind to. I'd watch "Leave it to Beaver" a lot more - since only Seasons 1 & 2 have been released on dvd - but for those insane talking bugs and commercials that fill up a 3rd of the screen while the show is running. I simply will not put up with that.
If TVLand would drop the bugs and interruptions and add some vintage programming that isn't out on dvd (and as I said before there is plenty to chose from) then they'd have my attention and loyalty. But they aren't after folks like me. I don't fit their target demo.
B&W "TVLand is truly a joke at this point" Fan
CHUCK T 09-03-2008, 12:33 PM I used to love TV LAND, now I hardly watch it. The shows they get are not what I consider classics. I just wish they would maybe devote a day, a Saturday or Sunday afternoon to classic shows of the 50s and 60s that many of us want to watch. They could still do there new shows in prime time. But I pretty much avoid TV Land and there "reality" shows. I hate so-called reality shows period.
hoosierelvisfan 09-03-2008, 12:53 PM When TV Land started back in 1996, I was still living in Philadelpha and I remember thinking "this channel is the greatest thing since sliced bread." It had all of my absolute fave shows and the original concept was to show old TV shows and they would even show "old" commercials. The whole idea was to show old shows that people loved and still wanted to see. Personally, I've seen all of these episodes a thousand times each but that's OK, I'll watch them a thousand more times because I enjoy watching them. For MY part, I would like to see: Andy Griffith; Sanford and Son; Taxi; I Love Lucy; Bewitched; Odd Couple; I Dream of Jeannie; Starsky and Hutch; Bonanza; etc. I want to see the old TV shows from the 1960's and 1970's mainly.
I do NOT want to see: Friends; Cosby Show; Scrubs; Designing Women; Endless Reality Shows; Endless repeats of movies you just showed ten hours prior and will show AGAIN in another eight hours!!!!; etc; etc; etc; I do NOT want to see shows from the 1990's and 2000's.
TV Land has definitely strayed away from its' original concept. I can't stand it.
Pavan 09-03-2008, 02:03 PM Blog story on TV Land PRIME:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/09/tv-land-announces-new-primetime-block.html
PattiB 09-03-2008, 02:10 PM We stopped watching it at all.
I used to love TV LAND, now I hardly watch it. The shows they get are not what I consider classics. I just wish they would maybe devote a day, a Saturday or Sunday afternoon to classic shows of the 50s and 60s that many of us want to watch. They could still do there new shows in prime time. But I pretty much avoid TV Land and there "reality" shows. I hate so-called reality shows period.
JulieSomoski 09-03-2008, 04:27 PM A very rich person should buy a network, two in fact, and put older shows from the 50s through the 70s on one, and shows from the 80s to 2000 on the other. There's a demand. I often wonder why someone doesn't do that.
It's already been done: 2 little networks called TV Land and Nick at Nite. TV Land was for the 50's-70's, and Nick at Nite changed to the 80's-current. Although lately TV Land has more current shows than NAN does. :crazy:
Mr. Television 09-03-2008, 05:20 PM When TV Land started back in 1996, I was still living in Philadelpha and I remember thinking "this channel is the greatest thing since sliced bread." It had all of my absolute fave shows and the original concept was to show old TV shows and they would even show "old" commercials. The whole idea was to show old shows that people loved and still wanted to see. Personally, I've seen all of these episodes a thousand times each but that's OK, I'll watch them a thousand more times because I enjoy watching them. For MY part, I would like to see: Andy Griffith; Sanford and Son; Taxi; I Love Lucy; Bewitched; Odd Couple; I Dream of Jeannie; Starsky and Hutch; Bonanza; etc. I want to see the old TV shows from the 1960's and 1970's mainly.
I do NOT want to see: Friends; Cosby Show; Scrubs; Designing Women; Endless Reality Shows; Endless repeats of movies you just showed ten hours prior and will show AGAIN in another eight hours!!!!; etc; etc; etc; I do NOT want to see shows from the 1990's and 2000's.
TV Land has definitely strayed away from its' original concept. I can't stand it.
I agree totally.
Adamantium 09-03-2008, 06:13 PM Things were bad lately and they're moving into the UNWATCHABLE category.
I HATE reality shows. TV Land was my escape from that genre of television. Not anymore.
What really upsets me is when people I know, still refer to me as the guy who loves N@N and TV Land. Just because for so many years they were my favorite channels. I have to correct them that I don't like those channels anymore because they've been crapped on by bad television shows.
The only good thing about all of this is that at this point in time, my complete series on DVD collection has really grown. So I longer rely on Nick at Nite or TV Land for my classic television viewing.
There's a lot of things I want to say right now. But this is a friendly messageboard and I might offend, everybody who [OFFENSIVE RANTING... THIS IS ALL CENSORED... OFFENSIVE RANTING... IF ANYBODY READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN HERE, ADAMANTIUM WOULD BE BANNED FROM THIS MESSAGEBOARD AND POSSIBLY TRACKED DOWN AND SLAPPED IN THE FACE... TO STATE WHAT ADAMANTIUM IS SAYING BUT IN A NICER FASHION, TV LAND YOU SUCK... YOUR NEW SCHEDULE SUCKS... YOUR IDIOTIC] [OKAY, NOW THIS HAS BEEN CENSORED. ADAM'S A VERY ANGRY PERSON RIGHT NOW. THAT'S ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.] And that's all I have to say about that.
Janice 09-03-2008, 10:03 PM It's already been done: 2 little networks called TV Land and Nick at Nite. TV Land was for the 50's-70's, and Nick at Nite changed to the 80's-current. Although lately TV Land has more current shows than NAN does. :crazy:
It's not being done. I mean no Original programs, no Reality and no movies. You know what I mean, and it hasn't been done. :)
TVFactFan 09-03-2008, 10:37 PM It's not being done. I mean no Original programs, no Reality and no movies. You know what I mean, and it hasn't been done. :)
I know would be nice, it would be a lovely escape
catlover79 09-03-2008, 10:38 PM I can see where the older TV series wouldn't be as popular, but that was the whole idea behind this station! What makes them think that people in their 40's want to watch "original" programming? I don't. I'd rather watch the classics!
Andrea
EXACTLY!!!! :clap
storrs19 09-04-2008, 09:34 AM Although lately TV Land has more current shows than NAN does. :crazy:
Isn't that just stupid? I will never figure this out until my dying day. I guess I could never run a network as what I like does not appeal to the masses. Thank god for bootleg dvd sets and the internet.
JulieSomoski 09-04-2008, 04:11 PM Isn't that just stupid? I will never figure this out until my dying day. I guess I could never run a network as what I like does not appeal to the masses. Thank god for bootleg dvd sets and the internet.
What I love about Nick at Nite is that they don't see a need for original programming. They're perfectly happy with the shows they have. TV Land, on the other hand, cares less about the shows that started their network, and instead just shove them aside for reality shows and original programming that no one wants to watch, all for a younger audience. Makes no sense.
JulieSomoski 09-04-2008, 04:13 PM It's not being done. I mean no Original programs, no Reality and no movies. You know what I mean, and it hasn't been done. :)
Right now, that's not happening. But, I definitely agree, it would be great to see 2 stations like that. It would be nice to see 2 stations actually stick to their plans and not change for the worse.
treky 09-04-2008, 04:43 PM well, now I DEFINETALY am gonna stop watching them!!! (TV LAND-if you see this, since I know they do read posts on here & similar boards sometimes) your new schedule sucks!!!:mad:
SpenceOlchin 09-04-2008, 05:01 PM I was clamoring for TV Land back in '96 and boy was it a great network. I especially enjoyed the Retromercials that used to air between shows. Makes me truly wish for those days back again. Too bad Viacom practically ruins any network they get their hands on.
Folks, I know this is frusturating, but who didn't see it coming? It's been obvious for at least the past 6 months. TV Land has been no good for 3 years now. Instead of lamenting the loss of classics on TV Land;
I would suggest requesting RTN from your local TV affiliates if they don't already carry it; they are dedicated to the classics and are not near as pressured ratings/revenue-wise as TV Land. Their format is classic sitcoms and dramas from the 50s through 80s and that is not changing. This is the new "classic tv" network and they're getting pretty widespread. It's working and is being very successful for them AND the affiliates. So, instead of wasting your energy talking and complaining about TV Land, why not request RTN if you don't have it; and if you do have it, call RTN and your local affiliate that is carrying it and thank them for what they're doing. RTN is even free if you don't have cable. Just my 2 cents.
TVFactFan 09-04-2008, 07:00 PM What I love about Nick at Nite is that they don't see a need for original programming. They're perfectly happy with the shows they have. TV Land, on the other hand, cares less about the shows that started their network, and instead just shove them aside for reality shows and original programming that no one wants to watch, all for a younger audience. Makes no sense.
N@N has been kicking TV Land's a$$ as the better network for most of this decade-lol
JulieSomoski 09-04-2008, 07:17 PM N@N has been kicking TV Land's a$$ as the better network for most of this decade-lol
Yeah, I've been watching NAN a lot more than TV Land lately. Family Matters gives me another hour a night of NAN. TV Land wants younger viewers in primetime, but these originals aren't going to do it. It'll probably bring down the median age, but it'll also bring down the total viewers.
ryan423 09-04-2008, 07:20 PM So, when is TV Land renaming their network to TBS2? LOL...
My favorite show of all time is Friends. I am not a big fan of Scrubs but see why its the hit it is:] Frankly though, this network should either rename itself TBS2 (On count of getting shows from the 90's - 00's) or VH1 2 (On count of the reality shows).
I can understand Friends because as current as it is, its now a cult classic! And frankly, it premiere 14 years ago now. Wow, thats a long time ago lol.
I would actually like to see Seinfeld on TV Land if TBS EVER GIVES IT UP LOL.
TVFactFan 09-04-2008, 07:46 PM Seinfeld would be nice to see on TV Land since I can't catch on TBS due to the timeslot
dawsongirl 09-04-2008, 11:20 PM Friends. puke: 3rd Rock From the Sun. puke: Nothing like rerunning NBCs worst further into the ground.
boechsner 09-05-2008, 12:56 AM I agree with the statement about RTN. RTN is way better than TV Land and in fact is similar to how TV Land use to be. RTN is airing full-unedited episodes of classic shows and even has retromercials like TV Land use to. I gave up on TV Land long ago and am perfectly content with a combination of my TV on DVD collection and RTN.
Now, I just wish RTN would get a few more sitcoms. For me I watch the late morning block of Bachelor Father, Kate & Allie, McHale's Navy and Leave It to Beaver. The rest of the day includes Adam-12, Dragnet, Ironside, Simon & Simon, Magnum, P.I., Night Gallery, Alfred Hitchcock Hour, Marcus Welby, M.D., etc. Not too long ago, they were also airing Love American Style, Get Smart and Hogan's Heroes. Honestly, this is as close as you can get to the way TV Land use to be.
PrettyinPink55 09-05-2008, 01:29 AM This is complete crap!!!! :mad: :mad: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
I would much much much rather watch TV classics than reality TV!!! :( Why couldn't they just create a whole new channel if they wanted to show all these new shows??
So what does the daytime line up look like? Do we still get some good programming?
Rue_McClanahan 09-05-2008, 01:53 AM This stinks! I hate what they have been doing to TV land! :mad: I dislike all these reality shows! I'm 25 and have been watching TV land for several years, solely because they aired the classics. It's the only reason I even watch that channel. I don't want to see more reality shows...they're everywhere it seems! I want to see the classics and TV Land is the only place I know of to see them. I would much rather watch Andy Griffith, Three's Company, The Jeffersons, All In The Family, Beverly Hillbillies, ect. then some stupid new reality show. I know it may not all be reality shows, but still I would rather watch the classics. I don't like alot of these new shows anyway. I've probably watched TV Land more then any other channel, up until they started airing these new programs.
TV Land was supposed to be all about airing the classics. If they start changing and taking them away then there will be no place to see them. We wil be left with buying the boxed sets and watching them on DVD...the ones that are out on DVD that is.
It seems all TV stations have began to change and veer from what they were origionally all about. It's not just with TV Land. I've seen it with other stations like CMT (Country Music Television)...there's a bunch of programs I've seen on there that have absolutely nothing to do with country music and they used to have videos throughout the day, now it seems they rarely have videos.
I know I kind of rambled there, but this just really annoyes the heck out of me. If I want to see reality shows or newer shows I will watch other channels, if I want to see classics I will watch TV Land. If they want to do new programming then they should have a new station just for that and keep TV Land for the classics. There are a lot of other classics they could add to their lineup without having to add new shows and reality shows. Why not stick to the classics, which is what TV Land has been all about and why we have been watching all this time!
comedyfreak 09-05-2008, 05:42 AM Well stated Rue!! I agree 200%:clap :clap
Pavan 09-05-2008, 10:43 AM This is complete crap!!!! :mad: :mad: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
I would much much much rather watch TV classics than reality TV!!! :( Why couldn't they just create a whole new channel if they wanted to show all these new shows??
So what does the daytime line up look like? Do we still get some good programming?
Please read this:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/09/tv-land-announces-new-primetime-block.html
It is not that bad, only 9pm-12am is changing.
TVFactFan 09-05-2008, 06:42 PM Please read this:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/09/tv-land-announces-new-primetime-block.html
It is not that bad, only 9pm-12am is changing.
Only 9pm to 12pm for now, if it POPS then it will expand-lol
Jude The Obscure 09-05-2008, 06:58 PM Stick a fork in this network-it's done! (in my house that is!)
ThomasE 09-05-2008, 07:11 PM I can respect some of the changes that are taking place but I want a serious balance. I do not want to see a slew of reality shows taking over this extended Nick at Nite network.
Thelma Harper ("Mama") said on the 2003 TV LAND Awards that she was happy that she could turn on the TV and watch TV LAND and made wisecracks about the crappy reality T.V. LOL. But look how it is invading the network now.
I just don't want the execs to do away with the original format entirely. IMO, there should be at least 70 percent of classic reruns on the network. If TV Land is gonna start adding more reality, then I would urge these distributors to start releasing more and more shows onto DVD so at least we can have them in a collection of sorts.
Schmoopie 09-05-2008, 07:12 PM This stinks! I hate what they have been doing to TV land! :mad: I dislike all these reality shows! I'm 25 and have been watching TV land for several years, solely because they aired the classics. It's the only reason I even watch that channel. I don't want to see more reality shows...they're everywhere it seems! I want to see the classics and TV Land is the only place I know of to see them. I would much rather watch Andy Griffith, Three's Company, The Jeffersons, All In The Family, Beverly Hillbillies, ect. then some stupid new reality show. I know it may not all be reality shows, but still I would rather watch the classics. I don't like alot of these new shows anyway. I've probably watched TV Land more then any other channel, up until they started airing these new programs.
TV Land was supposed to be all about airing the classics. If they start changing and taking them away then there will be no place to see them. We wil be left with buying the boxed sets and watching them on DVD...the ones that are out on DVD that is.
It seems all TV stations have began to change and veer from what they were origionally all about. It's not just with TV Land. I've seen it with other stations like CMT (Country Music Television)...there's a bunch of programs I've seen on there that have absolutely nothing to do with country music and they used to have videos throughout the day, now it seems they rarely have videos.
I know I kind of rambled there, but this just really annoyes the heck out of me. If I want to see reality shows or newer shows I will watch other channels, if I want to see classics I will watch TV Land. If they want to do new programming then they should have a new station just for that and keep TV Land for the classics. There are a lot of other classics they could add to their lineup without having to add new shows and reality shows. Why not stick to the classics, which is what TV Land has been all about and why we have been watching all this time!
That was extremely well-put and I completely agree! All the networks are doing this, it seems. I used to love the Food Network, and although it's still about "food", it's definitely changed! They've completely changed some of my favorite shows (and replaced my fave host of "The Secret Life Of..." with a LAME guy!), and they are continuously showing crap like "The Next Food Network Star", etc. Sure it would be boring if they only had cooking shows, but they have to have SOME imagination! :crazy:
And VH1. I used to love it because they showed more pop music videos, while MTV showed stuff like Van Halen. Well now VH1 barely shows ANY music videos and MTV? Well, they lost that a LONG time ago!
TV Land was, I thought, the result of the huge popularity of Nick at Nite. I remember when they first started showing it (the old shows like Patty Duke, etc), it was a huge hit. So they decided to make a whole TV station dedicated to the classics. They sure have hit rock bottom with their latest decision to "cater to the masses".
Andrea
ThomasE 09-05-2008, 07:19 PM It makes you wonder if there will be another NAN network dedicated to airing the classics so that TV LAND can "explore" the wonderful world of reality.
JulieSomoski 09-05-2008, 07:21 PM Only 9pm to 12pm for now, if it POPS then it will expand-lol
Exactly - before we know it, the only hours to see the classics on TV Land will be 3am-6am. TV Land could turn into a whole graveyard for cancelled reality shows.
ThomasE 09-05-2008, 07:29 PM Exactly - before we know it, the only hours to see the classics on TV Land will be 3am-6am. TV Land could turn into a whole graveyard for cancelled reality shows.
Do it, Julie! Get your 5000th post! LOL.
TVFactFan 09-05-2008, 07:35 PM Exactly - before we know it, the only hours to see the classics on TV Land will be 3am-6am. TV Land could turn into a whole graveyard for cancelled reality shows.
Make your 5000th post about TV LAND-lol
JulieSomoski 09-05-2008, 08:15 PM Make your 5000th post about TV LAND-lol
Such a proud moment :lol: I'm not sure where I made my 5000th post, though - I wasn't paying attention at the moment-LOL
Janice 09-06-2008, 03:37 AM What this is forcing me to do is to find my sitcoms elsewhere. I find TBS has a nice offering. ION, Lifetime....I'm just now finishing up a hard to find final season of The Steve Harvey Show on BET (hat tip to Pavan for the info). Before, I just went from Nick to TV Land, but those days are over. I've become more resourceful in my sitcom search.
Janice 09-06-2008, 03:39 AM Such a proud moment :lol: I'm not sure where I made my 5000th post, though - I wasn't paying attention at the moment-LOL
Congrats Julie!
party:
dav4463 09-06-2008, 03:45 AM Rotate some different shows in there instead of always showing the same ones over and over. There are so many classic tv shows that no one ever gets to see.
CPO Sharkey, Quark, We Got it Made, etc..... a few of those mixed with the hits would make it a real retro-network. More old commercials wouldn't hurt either.
TVFactFan 09-06-2008, 01:39 PM What this is forcing me to do is to find my sitcoms elsewhere. I find TBS has a nice offering. ION, Lifetime....I'm just now finishing up a hard to find final season of The Steve Harvey Show on BET (hat tip to Pavan for the info). Before, I just went from Nick to TV Land, but those days are over. I've become more resourceful in my sitcom search.
That's what you have to do. I mysef went to ION, TBS, BET, and TV ONE. You know what they say,
"ONE NETWORK EXECUTIVE MONKEY DOESN"T STOP THE SITCOM WATCHING SHOW"
howierules86 09-06-2008, 02:12 PM Lately, it seems that I've been watching ABC Family, FX, and even TBS to see sitcoms reruns a lot more than TV Land. Sad, huh?
ThomasE 09-06-2008, 02:35 PM Lately, it seems that I've been watching ABC Family, FX, and even TBS to see sitcoms reruns a lot more than TV Land. Sad, huh?
Nah. You know that you be watching VH1 classics howie. :lol:
JulieSomoski 09-06-2008, 02:45 PM Congrats Julie!
party:
Thankyou Janice!
BTW, I love your Judge Judy avatars! They really bring some order to these boards :lol:
JulieSomoski 09-06-2008, 02:46 PM Lately, it seems that I've been watching ABC Family, FX, and even TBS to see sitcoms reruns a lot more than TV Land. Sad, huh?
I've been watching ABC Family a lot more again recently. TV Land isn't even a part of my day anymore. There's just nothing interesting on it that I'd like to watch.
Mr. Television 09-06-2008, 02:49 PM Such a proud moment :lol: I'm not sure where I made my 5000th post, though - I wasn't paying attention at the moment-LOL
Congratulations Julie. :)
JulieSomoski 09-06-2008, 02:53 PM Congratulations Julie. :)
Thankyou Sonny! :wave: I never realized that 5000 was such a big deal around here ;) :D
icecream 09-06-2008, 03:51 PM I love your avatar Julie.
TVFactFan 09-06-2008, 03:54 PM Thankyou Sonny! :wave: I never realized that 5000 was such a big deal around here ;) :D
Yeah the milestone for posts are 5000, 10,000, 15,000, 20,000 and so on
JulieSomoski 09-06-2008, 04:05 PM Yeah the milestone for posts are 5000, 10,000, 15,000, 20,000 and so on
Well now I know-LOL. Compared to some of you guys, though, 5000 is nothing.
JulieSomoski 09-06-2008, 04:05 PM I love your avatar Julie.
Thankyou! I planned on using it as my avatar a few months ago, but I've been using the Swingtown one instead. Since that ended, I thought I'd finally use the Wonder Years one, and I really like it!
TV Land continues to be a network that I once loved a great deal, but due to all of the changes to it, I just don't enjoy it much anymore. :(
Maybe they're gaining new viewers, but I'm sure they're losing some as well.
storrs19 09-07-2008, 11:08 AM Now, I just wish RTN would get a few more sitcoms. For me I watch the late morning block of Bachelor Father, Kate & Allie, McHale's Navy and Leave It to Beaver. The rest of the day includes Adam-12, Dragnet, Ironside, Simon & Simon, Magnum, P.I., Night Gallery, Alfred Hitchcock Hour, Marcus Welby, M.D., etc. Not too long ago, they were also airing Love American Style, Get Smart and Hogan's Heroes. Honestly, this is as close as you can get to the way TV Land use to be.
Wow! That is an awesome schedule. Insight Cable in Evansville, Indiana carries this feed on Channel 25 but here is Louisville, Kentucky no such luck. Our local cable channel carries nothing but infomercials and stupid modern garbage. I like many of those shows on that RTN schedule. I wonder if I can watch RTN online? I will have to check that out since I hold no hopes of ever getting it in Louisville. Apparently only viewers under 30 matter here in this metropolis.
TVFactFan 09-07-2008, 11:24 AM To the People who have RTN: "No need for you to post the lineup up of what's being shown because what is that doing for the people who don't have it?
NOTHING!
We get it, RTN is a better Classic TV station than TV Land and that's all that needs to be said.
KurtfromPitts 09-08-2008, 05:22 PM And it will be ten years ago this coming December 30 that what was then TCI added TV Land to its lineup where I live.
TVFactFan 09-08-2008, 05:24 PM And it will be ten years ago this coming December 30 that what was then TCI added TV Land to its lineup where I live.
I missed out on TV Land's golden years, 1996-1999
I caught the last half, 2000-2004-lol
Fleet 09-08-2008, 07:35 PM This is TV Land PRIME's launch schedule...so you can see it is not all that bad...just 3 hours:
Effective Monday, Oct. 6
Mon-Fri
9:00pm Scrubs
9:30pm Scrubs
10:00pm 3rd Rock from the Sun (Mon-Tues, Thurs); TV Land's Myths & Legends NEW (Wed); MovieLand (Fri)
10:30pm 3rd Rock from the Sun (Mon-Tues, Thurs); High School Reunion ENCORE (Wed); MovieLand cont. (Fri)
11:00pm Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (Mon-Tues, Thurs); High School Reunion ENCORE cont. (Wed); MovieLand cont. (Fri)
11:30pm Extreme Makeover: Home Edition cont. (Mon-Tues, Thurs); Extreme Makeover: Home Edition thru 12:30 (Wed); MovieLand cont. (Fri)
Saturdays
8:00-10:00pm Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (two-hour episodes)
10:00pm Myths & Legends ENCORE
10:30pm Myths & Legends ENCORE
11:00pm Scrubs
11:30pm Scrubs
Sundays in primetime is classic TV.
It is bad! Primetimes should be classic TV all week.
In that time slot, I'd much rather see Bonanza, Beverly Hillbillies, Andy Griffith, Star Trek, Sanford & Son, Three's Company, I Love Lucy, etc.
janet42 09-09-2008, 08:36 PM It is bad! Primetimes should be classic TV all week.
In that time slot, I'd much rather see Bonanza, Beverly Hillbillies, Andy Griffith, Star Trek, Sanford & Son, Three's Company, I Love Lucy, etc.
I agree except I want to add "Petticoat Junction" in the line-up too. :wave:
Skywalker 09-09-2008, 08:58 PM To hell with TV Land! I wouldn't be surprised if they became an all reality channel in the next couple of years. :rolleyes: That's ok, because I'll always have TV DVD Land! :D
JulieSomoski 09-10-2008, 06:20 PM To hell with TV Land! I wouldn't be surprised if they became an all reality channel in the next couple of years. :rolleyes: That's ok, because I'll always have TV DVD Land! :D
Yeah, I've been turning to my TV on DVD collection a lot more lately.
ryan423 09-11-2008, 12:55 AM Yeah, I've been turning to my TV on DVD collection a lot more lately.
agreed.
treky 09-12-2008, 03:15 AM DITTO!
treky 09-12-2008, 03:17 AM I missed out on TV Land's golden years, 1996-1999
I caught the last half, 2000-2004-lol
so did I, Solomon! We got it when we moved, in 2000.
Robert 13 09-12-2008, 10:08 AM Yeah, I've been turning to my TV on DVD collection a lot more lately.
Yeah, me too. All of the channels seem to be "changing for the younger audience" and neglecting the fact that there is still another audience out their that everyone is starting to ignore. I'm not even 30 yet and I hate the shows TV Land has slated for their 3-hour primetime spot. And then ion starts doing much of the same. So I don't even have cable right now. No need for it when the programming is really repetitive and boring.
Coffeecup 09-12-2008, 11:36 AM What old time shows will they keep? I don't watch tvland much at night. Is the daytime still older shows?
JulieSomoski 09-12-2008, 04:31 PM Yeah, me too. All of the channels seem to be "changing for the younger audience" and neglecting the fact that there is still another audience out their that everyone is starting to ignore. I'm not even 30 yet and I hate the shows TV Land has slated for their 3-hour primetime spot. And then ion starts doing much of the same. So I don't even have cable right now. No need for it when the programming is really repetitive and boring.
I'm in their little demographic, too, and I DO NOT want to see reality TV and current shows take over primetime. Everytime they speak about "catering to the babyboomer audience," they say it as if it includes everyone over the age of 40, and it doesn't.
JulieSomoski 09-12-2008, 04:38 PM What old time shows will they keep? I don't watch tvland much at night. Is the daytime still older shows?
Yeah, they still air shows like I Love Lucy, Beverly Hillbillies, and Hogan's Heroes in the daytime. They'll probably keep around like Gunsmoke, Hillbillies, and all those shows for daytime.
treky 09-13-2008, 02:35 AM yea, but unfortunately they shred them to ribbons!!:mad: :mad:
And part of their exuse as to why they got away from their glory days, is because most of the shows are on DVD now. Well, that's true somewhat but don't they relize that part of the "charm" of seeing old shows is (to some people at least) seeing them on a "modern" TV set?
JulieSomoski 09-13-2008, 01:46 PM yea, but unfortunately they shred them to ribbons!!:mad: :mad:
And part of their exuse as to why they got away from their glory days, is because most of the shows are on DVD now. Well, that's true somewhat but don't they relize that part of the "charm" of seeing old shows is (to some people at least) seeing them on a "modern" TV set?
That's the oddest excuse I've seen from them yet, considering all the classic shows they do air (Andy Griffith, MASH, Hogan's Heroes) are already completely out on DVD.
TVFactFan 09-13-2008, 07:34 PM TV land 's schedule fior Today up until 2am looks like a OBESE WOMAN IN A BIKINI_LOL
"Hogan Heroes marathon followed by 2 eps of Scrubs, and a mini-marathon of CSI and then 2 eps of Mash"
YUCK-lol
treky 09-13-2008, 09:54 PM TV land 's schedule fior Today up until 2am looks like a OBESE WOMAN IN A BIKINI_LOL
"Hogan Heroes marathon followed by 2 eps of Scrubs, and a mini-marathon of CSI and then 2 eps of Mash"
YUCK-lol
yea, I saw that. Why the hell are they showing "C.S.I."??? Don't tell me the're gonna start rerunning THAT on a regular basis now!!!
MikeLutton 09-13-2008, 09:57 PM think it is a one time thing thank goodness obcese woman in bikini bit sounded funny as hell sure dont want see that
treky 09-13-2008, 10:09 PM thank god! I mean, it's a good show (no, a GREAT show!) in fact it's my favorite out of all 3, but it's hardly for their schedule!!
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