View Full Version : New clues for the Tammy Leppert case


Talib
09-01-2008, 10:07 PM
Was watching videos tonight when I noticed these comments.

Tyilovesmike (3 months ago) Hi my name is Terry Lynn (Tyi) I was married to Keith Roberts the last person to see her alive. I know there is more to this story and I can tell you first hand he is not to be trusted. I want to contact Tammy's sister. I need to talk with her. I'll keep checking this site to see if you respond.

Tyi

(comment posted on another Tammy video)
Hello, My name is Terry Lynn (Tyi) and I was married to Keith Roberts the guy that dropped her off in Cocoa beach. I would really love to talk with you about this. Keith was very abusive toward me and I think there are things he might have done. Please contact me.

Terry Lynn (Tyi)

LeopardessJinx (3 months ago) I have been best friend's with Terry for 26 yrs.
I have seen and heard many things about keith.

LeopardessJinx (3 months ago) I am Terry's best friend since the 7th grade, My name is Donna. I can tell you I have been around to see what kinda person Keith really is.


Am I the only one who finds this very suspicious/intriguing ?

Dislimb
09-01-2008, 10:53 PM
Am I the only one who finds this very suspicious/intriguing ?

Yes, you are. It's all a bunch of hearsay on the internet of all places. I'm sure the police questioned him more than anybody since he was the last person to see her. If they are satisfied enough with his story to clear him as a suspect then so am I. Sounds to me like the dude's ex-wife is just a bitter old broad. Besides, this is a 25 year old missing persons case. The odds of it ever being solved are more then 1,000 to 1. And posting links to the website that you did is not allowed on this message board and they will surely be deleted.

EDIT: Also, I think the title of the thread should be changed because it is very misleading. There isn't any new evidence in this case, or at least there isn't any in this thread. There should at least be a question mark put at the end of the title.

nohwheregirl
09-01-2008, 11:17 PM
Yes, you are. It's all a bunch of hearsay on the internet of all places. I'm sure the police questioned him more than anybody since he was the last person to see her. If they are satisfied enough with his story to clear him as a suspect then so am I. Sounds to me like the dude's ex-wife is just a bitter old broad. Besides, this is a 25 year old missing persons case. The odds of it ever being solved are more then 1,000 to 1. And posting links to the website that you did is not allowed on this message board and they will surely be deleted.

EDIT: Also, I think the title of the thread should be changed because it is very misleading. There isn't any new evidence in this case, or at least there isn't any in this thread. There should at least be a question mark put at the end of the title.
Wow, that was a really rude response. Tammy Leppert's sister posts here. I think we should let her judge whether this is worth pursuing. Also, it's never wise to assume that all police do their jobs thoroughly.

Dislimb
09-01-2008, 11:41 PM
Wow, that was a really rude response.

That very well may be, but it was 100% truth. All the original post contained was a bit of gossip from a website we are not allowed to promote here.

My money says that the instant crystaldawn or TJ sees this thread that they will remove the links from the initial post.

Necco
09-02-2008, 12:17 AM
I'm not sure it is reasonable to expect someone who just joined to know all the copyright issues involved with the site that must not be mentioned (tstmnbm). While it is important to point these issues out, it probably could have been done in a kinder manner. Hopefully the person who made the comments on tstmnbm, if credible, has by now gotten in touch with Suzanne. If the person is not credible, hopefully by now they've been distracted by something shiny.
-Necco

nohwheregirl
09-02-2008, 12:20 AM
That very well may be, but it was 100% truth. All the original post contained was a bit of gossip from a website we are not allowed to promote here.

My money says that the instant crystaldawn or TJ sees this thread that they will remove the links from the initial post.
The fact that it was posted on the site doesn't mean it was any more or less legitimate than anything that gets posted on this website.

If the person is not credible, hopefully by now they've been distracted by something shiny.
-Necco
Hee!!

Talib
09-02-2008, 06:56 AM
Gossip ?
So you don't find it intriguing that this guy's ex-wife believes there's more to this story ? I think you're just a bit too skeptical, you can never be sure how much the police have investigated this guy. For all we know they're just letting him off the hook for lack of evidence.

Besides, this is a 25 year old missing persons case
She was 18 when she disappeared, if she hasn't been murdered then there's a good chance she's still alive somewhere.
Assuming Tammy's sister hasn't talked to her and she is a credible person, she could really shed some light on this case.

Dislimb
09-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Gossip ?

That's precisely what it is.

So you don't find it intriguing that this guy's ex-wife believes there's more to this story ?

No. I don't. The only part I find "intriguing" is that the wife never said anything until she was the "ex-wife".

She was 18 when she disappeared, if she hasn't been murdered then there's a good chance she's still alive somewhere.

I don't see how it is even remotely possible that she is still alive. That may sound harsh and I truly do not mean to come off that way, but let's be real here. If you can name me another case where a teenage girl went missing and was found alive 25+ years later then I'll shut my mouth.

suzannec4444
09-02-2008, 03:10 PM
Hi
I'm her sister.The police are actually looking into this lead now.Her case will be solved if I have something to say about it and I do.I promise that.

Here is a case.

http://www.doenetwork.org/media/news147.html

suzanne

joshypiano
09-02-2008, 03:16 PM
If you can name me another case where a teenage girl went missing and was found alive 25+ years later then I'll shut my mouth.

How about Laurie Davern
http://www.doenetwork.org/media/davern.html

thats the only one off the top of my head that fits your criteria :
Teeanger, missing. Found AFTER 25 years.

I know of many others that are 15-24 years


Just wanted to play devil's advocate

Dislimb
09-02-2008, 04:40 PM
thats the only one off the top of my head that fits your criteria

Okay so one versus 10,000? I'll take those odds.

SP4CE INV4DERZ
09-02-2008, 05:39 PM
Ah yes, Crystal's gonna love this :rolleyes: FFS no mention of that site, how hard is it to understand?!

hottstuff25
09-02-2008, 07:35 PM
I think those are plausible leads as well. The people writing those comments could possibly have information that could link Keith to Tammy's disappearance. That person might have googled Tammy or Keith's name strictly out of curiosity of her past relationship with Keith.

I don't think people would randomly write something like that there, ESPECIALLY since this case is 25 years old (not vice-versa). I also believe that the police did a lousy job with this case and maybe even knew some of what was going on with Tammy's strange behavior.

Also, that site we cannot mention has networked many people and cleaned up many cases of disappearances and crimes just from its comments system (source: AMW). Its a lead no matter what.

joshypiano
09-02-2008, 07:55 PM
Okay so one versus 10,000? I'll take those odds.


Hey. My opinion is the same as yours on the outcome. I'm just saying that if you are going to make outlandish claims you'd better be able to back them up with fact. And there are by the way more cases out there where missing teens have turned up after 25+ years. Yes the odds are low that something like that might happen, but they odds are low in the first place you would be murdered or robbed. However just saying the odds are low doesnt mean it isn't going to happen or hasn't.

Dislimb
09-02-2008, 08:49 PM
I'm just saying that if you are going to make outlandish claims you'd better be able to back them up with fact.

I wasn't aware that saying that a girl that has been missing for over 25 years will never be found alive was an outlandish claim.

joshypiano
09-02-2008, 09:28 PM
If you can name me another case where a teenage girl went missing and was found alive 25+ years later then I'll shut my mouth.

That was your outlandish claim. When someone says if you can name me "X" then I will "X", that sorta implies "good luck finding that". Your claim was that no such situation exists therefore that's your main backing for your argument of not thinking its possible.

With all due respect to family members here, I do have my own opinion as to what happened and I agree with Dislimb, though because I have no solid facts to support it, its only an opinion. Im open to other notions. But I definately wouldnt use the argument that since it hasn't occurred before (which it has multiple times) then it must not be so.

joshypiano
09-02-2008, 09:32 PM
BTW I just realized my tone is kind of pissy. Im not meaning to be. Sorry. I'm not trying to jump all over you. I was trying to make my point as directly as I could.

I was also being a little cheeky at times but that doesnt come across well through posting.

nohwheregirl
09-02-2008, 11:49 PM
If you can name me another case where a teenage girl went missing and was found alive 25+ years later then I'll shut my mouth.
Dislimb,
I think we were all hoping you would actually follow through on this, but alas, we were disappointed. Tammy's sister has posted and indicated that she feels the information is worth following up on. Her opinion is the only one that actually counts in this situation, as far as I'm concerned. The next time somebody pees in your cereal, please try not to take your anger out on the message board. We like to keep things pleasant around here.
Love,
Nohwheregirl

Dislimb
09-02-2008, 11:57 PM
BTW I just realized my tone is kind of pissy. Im not meaning to be. Sorry. I'm not trying to jump all over you. I was trying to make my point as directly as I could.

I was also being a little cheeky at times but that doesnt come across well through posting.

Not a problem, bro. The main thing is that I agree with you on the final outcome 100% as much as it sucks. A girl as beautiful as she was (an easy 11/10 in my book) doesn't just disappear into thin air. She is the type of person that if she was still out there would be turning heads on a daily basis. It's just a shame what happened.

Dislimb
09-03-2008, 12:00 AM
The next time somebody pees in your cereal, please try not to take your anger out on the message board.

I'm never awake early enough to eat breakfast anyway, smartass. :p

joshypiano
09-03-2008, 12:25 AM
The next time somebody pees in your cereal, please try not to take your anger out on the message board.
Nohwheregirl

I'm really trying to wrap my mind around that one.

:confused:

Babydollz24
09-03-2008, 02:56 AM
Dislimb, you are from cleveland? I am right around the block from you (not literally, but I live in Canton). Anyways, I hope that they find out somthing about Tammy and her dissaperence. It is just so sad.

crystaldawn
09-03-2008, 08:58 AM
Its time to get back on track here guys as this thread is about Tammy's disappearance. I can see why Talib thought that comment posted by the ex was interesting. I'm sure the police would follow up on anything if it would give them clues but I also think its very possible the ex just has an ax to grind.

joshypiano
09-03-2008, 10:01 AM
Yes well, I am usually of the mind in a murder or disappearance of a female, if she vanished just after being with the last known male acquaintance, then its likely that acquaintance might have something to do with it. I just think it's fishy that he drops her off in the middle of a bank and gas station amongst a large group of people but no one recalls seeing her.

(BTW I'm only basing this off the facts Ive read about. If anyone has more info please straighten me out)

I've always been of a mind about disappearances this way.

Circumstance one:

If someone runs away to hide and start a new life and doesn't contact their family, then that seems to me to be indicative of serious problems between that person and their family. Or there is some sort of shame (a pregnancy) that they don't wanted to be revealed to the family.

Circumstance 2: If the disappearance is due to needing to hide to protect herself from the troubles she perceived, I would venture to guess that in some small way or form she could have let her family know. A telephone call, or letter or something. You know..."I'm ok, I have to go away. Please don't worry".

Circumstance 3: If the disappearance was mental health related, it was seem most likely that after this much time there a few possibilities. If she were alive she would most likely have to be living on the streets. Due to the high profile of the case, if she were in a mental hospital or had started another life, the people around her would probably have tried to figure out who she was. You would get one of those news stories: "Do you know who this woman is?".
If she did have a mental illness and started a new life out of shame for her running away from home or perceived danger, I suppose she could have made up a story but I think it would be hard with a mental illness to hide your past without providing some sort of proof as to an identity at some point.
And seeing as her social security number and bank accounts have not been accessed thats not very likely.

In the cases that I have read of people turning up after long periods of time missing its usually circumstance one that turns out to be the case.

So I think you have to ask yourself is there any reason for her to run away and start a new life without ever contacting her family or friends in any form which means there was a sense of shame or a great rift between her and her family?

I know there are more possibilities and gray areas but thats were my line of thinking takes me thus far.
And seeing as the person who last saw her appears to be of questionable repute, I feel very strongly about my assumption that he has something to do with it. If you are going to go down the line of thinking that he DID have something to do with her disappearance, then I doubt he would help hide her, or cover up her intentionally running away. It's more likely that he did something to her. And thats not a good thing.

Plus Ive always wondered with this whole pregnancy thing if perhaps the guy who last saw her didn't have something to do with THAT as well.

Mastermind
09-03-2008, 02:13 PM
--- A girl as beautiful as she was (an easy 11/10 in my book) doesn't just disappear into thin air. She is the type of person that if she was still out there would be turning heads on a daily basis. It's just a shame what happened.----

(Apologies , to any of Tammy's relatives that might be offended by this)

1. If Tammy were living in Boise, Idaho (no offense to any Boise people on this site) she might stick out. But, In Florida,i would imagine there are several woman that would fit Tammy's description in looks and stature. Like finding a needle in a haystack.

2. If Tammy were done up and looking like a model 24-7 she might stand out, but in her regular clothes and without makeup. She probably would be indistiguishable from any other teenager in the area. Heck my 17 yr old niece is a dead ringer for Tammy. Just imagine if you saw any of those supermodels out of makeups and in regular clothes. You probably wouldn;t recognize them either

3. Drugs, alcohol, mental and physical stress and lack of good grooming habits, (and i hate to say this, disease) could radically alter Tammy's appearance

4. Not everyone is as informed on this case as us UM watchers. The average joe on the street wouldn't know Tammy Leppert from Brittany Spears. Nor would they know that she is missing.

5. With apologies to the actress who played her (and that actress was gorgeous as well:happyface, good actor too! Anyone know who she was??) This case is also one of those instances where i think some people who saw the segment were looking more for the face of the actress rather than the actual person.

the point i'm trying to make is that it is not that unlikely that Tammy could be alive and living today.

She could easily be (even now):

1. A prostitute living in Vegas, Amsterdam, hell maybe the Phillipines
2. A homeless person who has long lost her looks,
3. One of the many crazy people we overlook and see in the streets
4. A fugitive living with a drug dealer or some other criminal
5. A pornstar under a different name doing kinky acts.
6. An amnesiac who has never recovered her memory and is living a comfortable life with two children and a husband somewhere.
7. Scrubbing toilets in Des Moines, Iowa for 10.50 an hr.
8. She may be living comfortably with her child and is at peace.

I think we really underestimate how easy it is disappear from life. Venice Beach in California and parts of Florida are filled with people who have simply dropped out of life for various reasons.

James T
09-03-2008, 06:52 PM
No chance, I would have recognised her. :p

Could they have made a toy that looks less than Pacino? Love the film though- got a bad press I think. A decade later Pulp Fiction got rave reviews despite being somewhat similar & having lots of violence, which is why this film got critically panned.

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11297109/_Scarface_7_Realistic_Figures_12_Per_Case.jpg


[QUOTE=Mastermind]
5. A pornstar under a different name doing kinky acts.QUOTE]

Dislimb
09-03-2008, 08:57 PM
I'm from Orlando, Florida myself and I can safely say that Tammy was more attractive then 99% of the women there. I live in Cleveland, Ohio now and she was more attractive then 99.9% of the women here! Regardless of where she was, that girl would have turned heads. No doubt about it.

And Pulp Fiction is just a much better film then Scarface. Better direction, acting, production, music, script... I could go on and on.

MegtheEgg86
09-04-2008, 01:50 AM
(Apologies , to any of Tammy's relatives that might be offended by this)

1. If Tammy were living in Boise, Idaho (no offense to any Boise people on this site) she might stick out. But, In Florida,i would imagine there are several woman that would fit Tammy's description in looks and stature. Like finding a needle in a haystack.

2. If Tammy were done up and looking like a model 24-7 she might stand out, but in her regular clothes and without makeup. She probably would be indistiguishable from any other teenager in the area. Heck my 17 yr old niece is a dead ringer for Tammy. Just imagine if you saw any of those supermodels out of makeups and in regular clothes. You probably wouldn;t recognize them either

3. Drugs, alcohol, mental and physical stress and lack of good grooming habits, (and i hate to say this, disease) could radically alter Tammy's appearance

4. Not everyone is as informed on this case as us UM watchers. The average joe on the street wouldn't know Tammy Leppert from Brittany Spears. Nor would they know that she is missing.

5. With apologies to the actress who played her (and that actress was gorgeous as well:happyface, good actor too! Anyone know who she was??) This case is also one of those instances where i think some people who saw the segment were looking more for the face of the actress rather than the actual person.

the point i'm trying to make is that it is not that unlikely that Tammy could be alive and living today.

She could easily be (even now):

1. A prostitute living in Vegas, Amsterdam, hell maybe the Phillipines
2. A homeless person who has long lost her looks,
3. One of the many crazy people we overlook and see in the streets
4. A fugitive living with a drug dealer or some other criminal
5. A pornstar under a different name doing kinky acts.
6. An amnesiac who has never recovered her memory and is living a comfortable life with two children and a husband somewhere.
7. Scrubbing toilets in Des Moines, Iowa for 10.50 an hr.
8. She may be living comfortably with her child and is at peace.

I think we really underestimate how easy it is disappear from life. Venice Beach in California and parts of Florida are filled with people who have simply dropped out of life for various reasons.

I tend to agree with this myself. The pictures of Tammy shown on the segment are almost all studio-quality, and she is completely "made up" in all of them. She is an exceptionally beautiful girl, certainly, but many women look drastically different out of makeup (I know I do). I wish UM would have shown photos of her in less makeup, or none at all, so that viewers wouldn't have just that one particular image of her to reference. Unfortunately, I think that may be one of the reasons that she hasn't been found yet.

Mystery Lover
09-04-2008, 08:34 AM
I tend to agree with this myself. The pictures of Tammy shown on the segment are almost all studio-quality, and she is completely "made up" in all of them. She is an exceptionally beautiful girl, certainly, but many women look drastically different out of makeup (I know I do). I wish UM would have shown photos of her in less makeup, or none at all, so that viewers wouldn't have just that one particular image of her to reference. Unfortunately, I think that may be one of the reasons that she hasn't been found yet.


I have mentioned that before. I can only remember the pictures of Tammy with her wearing makeup and being all dressed up. I think we need to see some pictures of her without makeup on and in regular clothes.

Also.. if she is still alive, she may not be the same thin and skinny Tammy as she was as a youth. And especially if she's had children. A lot of women have a hard time losing the baby weight. So we could possibly be looking for someone much heavier.

James T
09-04-2008, 10:15 AM
I love Pulp Fiction too, just saying that Scarface's negative reviews focused mainly on the level of violence used- when a decade later it was acceptable & not held against films, I personally prefer Scarface. When they show it on tv here in Europe they always censor the chainsaw scene so it makes no sense- thank goodness for the DVD.

I think it is a one man tour de force from Pacino & his greatest role by a long way, plus it inspired the greatest game ever in Vice City.


And Pulp Fiction is just a much better film then Scarface. Better direction, acting, production, music, script... I could go on and on.

Mastermind
09-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Also have to consider that Tammy could also have had plastic surgery and has dyed or cut her hair.

She would look drastically different with just a dye job alone!:eek:

It would not be that difficult for Tammy to have gotten plastic surgery on limited funds. There are tons of illegal surgeons in Florida and overseas.

Especially if she got involved in prostitution or porn.

I once saw Scarlett Johanson in a Starbucks once and i only knew it was here because someone pointed it out to me. She looked like any other woman of her build in the joint.

suzannec4444
09-04-2008, 10:51 AM
Hi
I'm not offended by what you said Mastermind.It could be true.I was trying to get an age progression done on Tammy with darker hair because I thought of the same thing she could look much different with darker hair.I think she could possibly look like the age progression to 41 years of age of missing Kellie Brownlee missing in 1982.She also could have aged very well like Cheryl Ladd on charlies angels.

suzanne

Dislimb
09-04-2008, 04:34 PM
I once saw Scarlett Johanson in a Starbucks once and i only knew it was here because someone pointed it out to me. She looked like any other woman of her build in the joint.

Did you at least get her number? :happyface

true
11-27-2008, 11:08 AM
Tammy was hooking for her mother before this planned vanishing act happened.
It is not uncommon for a girl in the sex industry to change her identity for numerious reasons all regarding protection for family and friends.... and considering her mothers business of being a child talent aganet.... Tammy probably got legal assistance for the name and social security number change from their lawyer, Walter Lebowitz whom was years later disbared. Probably why she wanted Keith to take her south was to pick up her new ID.

Tammy was brought up with acting and modeling and solicitation (getting sponsors for her mothers beauty pagents) at a very early age and she certainly got to know many people of such porssible character to become clients fo Her's (Tammy). Their living situation was one of question and where they would be living next. Needless to say there was constant financial pressure.

Linda certainly knew this vanishing act, was part of it, and of course Wing knows this as well as Wally E. and Keith R. also know.

This is not speculation as I was there when all this happened and there is a lot more that I'm not posting here.

She was never really missing but given her mothers business....

As an adult, Tammy has the right to legally request the police to respect her privacy, and they have to, legally. This explains why the police never really looked for her as they didn't need to and probably knew how to get in touch with her.

Linda obviously had enough connections and influence with the local media and beyond, to promote this illusion of a missing person.... It is all entertainment right? look up "missing white woman syndrome"

There was never a threat against Tammy, but only their own fabrications about what to expect from someone they were going to play head games with over this. I believe the idea was to make a claim of a threat having been made and then try and motivate someone to fullfill the claim. You mess with someone long enough and they wil get angry.
Guess how I know this!

The value of the threat is that it helped to obtain a new social security number. read up on what conditions are that one can obtain a new SS#

Linda was one of the financial benefactors of Tammy's ... new career. There is a lot of money in prostitution and under the guise of escort services (should she have ever gone that way - word of mouth may have been all she needed) and proper protocal client/girl it's legal in all 50 states. How much extra would you pay to know something the public believes to be something else?

Tammy is not the first "missing" girl to do this. I'd imagine having a place to live is no longer an issue for her, but a matter of which of her houses she is curently at. I believes she also has a preference of driving white corvettes. Wing would be of course someone to investigate his property holdings.

mozartpc27
11-27-2008, 11:41 AM
I'm hoping the above post is meant as an ironic lesson is why one shouldn't believe everything posted by anonymous people on message boards. There are more crackpots out there than there are people with actual information - if they had actual information, one would hope they wouldn't post in on message boards anonymously and instead, at the least, give it to authorities anonymously.

true
11-27-2008, 03:00 PM
Although the irony of this matter goes deeper than you can imagine, I'm certainly not anonymous, nor have I been or need to have been anonymous with the authorities since way back when this matter began in the early 80's. They and others know who I am.

The authorities are NOT in a position to close this case, but only at best support the continuation of the illusion, given Tammy's desire (legal) for privacy.

The purpose of posting this to a public message board(s) should be obvious.
It is how this matter will be resolved. Simply put, by taking the cat out of the hat publicly, Tammy will have no reason left to continue the vanishing act.

Ironically I am perhaps the one person who can do this without concern of any real threat of libel filed against me. I have good and legal reasons for doing this. Cowards hide, but taking the cat out of the hat.... changes things. And in this case, for the better.

T.Rue

TheCars1986
11-27-2008, 06:18 PM
Care to elaborate more on what you know in this case?

Mystery Lover
11-27-2008, 06:22 PM
So you're saying that Tammy vanished on her on free will? If so, do you have any idea where she is now? Do you have contact with her?

Dislimb
11-27-2008, 06:31 PM
Care to elaborate more on what you know in this case?

Please, don't feed the trolls.

Dislimb
11-27-2008, 06:31 PM
So you're saying that Tammy vanished on her on free will? If so, do you have any idea where she is now? Do you have contact with her?

Please, see above post.

TheCars1986
11-27-2008, 06:34 PM
The odds that 'truth' actually knew Tami Leppert are slim, his favorite show was listed as South Park...something drunk college frat boys get a kick out of, not someone who would be in their forties would usually sit down and watch.

true
11-27-2008, 06:45 PM
Not to worry, I won't feed the trolls, but feel free to contact T. Cooper of the cocoa beach police department or Special Agent Bliss of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Dislimb
11-28-2008, 12:40 AM
Not to worry, I won't feed the trolls, but feel free to contact T. Cooper of the cocoa beach police department or Special Agent Bliss of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

And ask them what exactly? What their favorite donut flavors are?

mozartpc27
11-28-2008, 01:18 AM
And ask them what exactly? What their favorite donut flavors are?

Oh, Dislimb, ye of little faith, if we contacted "T. Cooper" of the Cocoa Beach police Department, why he'd be happy to share the details of an ongoing invesitgation with us, the benevolent armchair detectives of the internet.

It's what good police officers do to solve their cases.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 12:40 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/21/earlyshow/main703272.shtml

(CBS) More than 20 years ago, 6-year-old kidnap victim Jillian Searles was rescued, after a brutal assault at the hands of a child molester.

But, reports 48 Hours correspondent Erin Moriarty, Searles' story doesn't end there.

It is, Moriarty observes, "one of faith and incredible resilience. Not only did she refuse to let that horrific experience ruin the rest of her life, she transformed the lives of the men who saved her."

And recently, Searles finally had a reunion with her rescuers, as cameras from The Early Show took it all in.

Searles was snatched off a sidewalk in Barstow, Calif., in September 1983 while walking from school to a baby sitter's house.

And, says Moriarty, those images are still painfully clear. She can still recall the face of the man who drove her to a remote stretch of desert, molested her, chained her to a wooden beam, and left her to die.

"How do you think he most hurt you?" Moriarty asked Searles.

"He took my innocence," Searles said, in tears. "Those are things a 6-year-old shouldn't know about."

But her most vivid memory is that of two airborne sheriff's deputies who, acting on a hunch, found her on a lonely hillside late that night. Cold. Frightened. But alive.

Despite her physical and emotional trauma, the little girl tried to describe her kidnapper to police.

Barstow Detective Leo Griego got the case.

"She described a man approximately 21-25 years of age, Caucasian, white, missing a tooth on his upper jaw," he tells Moriarty.

Based on Searles' description, a composite sketch was broadcast. But it failed to turn up any suspects.

Griego followed up on other leads, including a similar incident with a local man, with no luck.

Now close to retirement age, he's still chasing the man who took Searles: "On something like this, we don't forget what happened. It may take a lot of years, but we don't forget, and I still think that there's a good possibility of identifying the individual who abducted her and sexually molested her."

Mastermind
11-28-2008, 12:45 PM
1.While i am extremely skeptical of trues story..

..the concept that Tammy might have been involved in prostitution is an angle that should be considered and probably has been.

Scores of aspiring actresses and models disappear into the porn or prostitution. Tammy may have gotten involved in that. She may even have been killed by a john, pimp or madam.

2. I really wonder if enough attention has been payed to the person she was last with. That dude basically left her barefoot with no transportation. I wonder what the argument was about? Has this person truly been cleared? Anything shady in his background? Any chance he was the father of Tammy's unborn child?

3. This is just a curiosity of mine...I liked Wing and thought he seemed to really like Tammy and was warm and personable.

But what was his real relationship to the Tammy's family?? This was never fully explained

Not that this matters but was Wing ever intimate with Tammy at any point? Any possibility the kid was his? Was Wing homosexual? (my apologies to Wing and his family if he isn't.)

4. Has anyone considered the possibility that Tammy was raped and that this rape produced the child and caused her mental condition. Perhaps the rapist was a criminal or someone deeply involved in the movie business. A threat that she would be killed if she told anyone would seem like impetus enough to push her toward the edge or even force her to lam it. I wonder if Tammy's family or doctors noticed any physical signs of any type of sexual assault.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 12:46 PM
The odds that 'truth' actually knew Tami Leppert are slim, his favorite show was listed as South Park...something drunk college frat boys get a kick out of, not someone who would be in their forties would usually sit down and watch.


I think that you all should settle down and stop arguing. Using odds to make argument is counterproductive. I just posted an answer to one question about kidnapped girls being found 20 years later.

People need to use facts not off the mark judgements made in anger.

I have personal experience in girls kidnapped and then found alive 20-30 years later, men also. I cannot name those cases due to legalities.

Apparently Suzanne knows Tammy , from what I see T Rue knows Tammy, who else does. Who better to give information on things than those who knew instead of those who never knew and read very little?

The mods on here allow these posts on the slight chance that something will be posted that will trigger something somewhere else and also in continuation of the internet fad, blogging, a hobby many love including me.

It would be nice if this thread was kept alive with meaningful dialogue and not shut down due to the new internet personality. THE BLOG BUSTER!!!

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 12:49 PM
The odds that 'truth' actually knew Tami Leppert are slim, his favorite show was listed as South Park...something drunk college frat boys get a kick out of, not someone who would be in their forties would usually sit down and watch.


HE DOES know her! Read!

mozartpc27
11-28-2008, 01:01 PM
I think that you all should settle down and stop arguing. Using odds to make argument is counterproductive. I just posted an answer to one question about kidnapped girls being found 20 years later.

People need to use facts not off the mark judgements made in anger.

I have personal experience in girls kidnapped and then found alive 20-30 years later, men also. I cannot name those cases due to legalities.

Apparently Suzanne knows Tammy , from what I see Tim Rue knows Tammy, who else does. Who better to give information on things than those who knew instead of those who never knew and read very little?

The mods on here allow these posts on the slight chance that something will be posted that will trigger something somewhere else and also in continuation of the internet fad, blogging, a hobby many love including me.

It would be nice if this thread was kept alive with meaningful dialogue and not shut down due to the new internet personality. THE BLOG BUSTER!!!

I had serious doubts about the story posted from another message board about a woman supposedly once married to the last man seen with Tammy Leppert, but I left that one alone - it might have been true, and wasn't really harming anybody.

But the story posted by "Tim Rue" was beyond the pale. He suggested that Tammy was being prostituted by her mother. That's not the sort of thing you post unless you can prove it. I'm sure Tammy's sister would agree with me in hoping that "Tim Rue"'s post was just a misguided attempt to show people why believing anonymous people who come on to message boards claiming to know "inside details" not available to the rest of us is a dangerous strategy. Otherwise, it is an awfully mean-spirited prank.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 01:02 PM
Let me set the stage for some things. i am 38 years old and am "retired" from service , no other explanation will be made. I was in the area of human trafficking so all the speculation about things not being so are baloney.

I will not listen to junk, if anyone wants to test me I simply will tell you off and deal directly with T Rue and Suzanne and leave all the rest out.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 01:11 PM
I had serious doubts about the story posted from another message board about a woman supposedly once married to the last man seen with Tammy Leppert, but I left that one alone - it might have been true, and wasn't really harming anybody.

But the story posted by "Tim Rue" was beyond the pale. He suggested that Tammy was being prostituted by her mother. That's not the sort of thing you post unless you can prove it. I'm sure Tammy's sister would agree with me in hoping that "Tim Rue"'s post was just a misguided attempt to show people why believing anonymous people who come on to message boards claiming to know "inside details" not available to the rest of us is a dangerous strategy. Otherwise, it is an awfully mean-spirited prank.

This sounds like an argument but is not. How can anything be posted if it cannot be proven? Not a single poster on here can prove anything all they can do is post thoughts and interpretation of what they read online or in the newspaper. Maybe it is not appropriate, maybe it is not pretty but it is possible.

You cannot conduct even a decent dialogue much less an investigation if you dismiss things that are objectionable or not likely to be or the normal, i.e. the 80 year old woman committing suicide with a knitting needle.

I understand the doubts and doubters and I understand those who do not want to see the blackness that is out there in this world. But those are the very reason posters post and investigators investigate, to look into those things and hopefully get rid of "one more" creator of blackness.

OR BY AT LEAST CONSIDERING the off the wall things, the potential that someone is living daily in that blackness and one key little piece of information might just free them. One more freed.

Who would have considered 10 years ago that Alpo would be 3 a can,?? But it is isn't it? Or that Juicy Fruit would go from 2 cents a 10 pack to 30 cents a 5 pack..You have to consider all things.

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 02:55 PM
Hi
I really don't think certain things should be posted on a public board that can be disrespectful or hurtful to tammy.Please let the police handle that.If you know something please call them.The FDLE and CBPD are back on tammy's case.Let's just see what they find out now.I'm done everything I can think of to find her and I have gotten no where.Maybe they really will find out something this time.

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 03:32 PM
So the thread is closing? I don't understand. I thought the idea was to discuss what was relevant though I agree speculation could be anything in this world and should be noted , i.e. it could be that she is Palin in Alaska but that is ridiculous. They ridiculous should be left off or maybe this thread should be just for amusement only but should be labeled that way.

We should all go home for amusement only threads they are of no use whatsoever.

I followed the other threads about this case and each time something comes up someone does not want to hear someone yells foul.

There is no crime in discussion , just the ridiculous or that which is designed just to hurt or be malicious. You cannot ignore real thoughts in brainstorming, or again, just go home. Maybe this is best anyway, it seems a certain few run the show and keep what is objectionable to them from being posted.

The real world is not for the weak kneed or head turners.

I will just read and not post. For a number of reasons.

Mayberry is a better thread anyway.

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 03:57 PM
Hi
I don't think it's closing if no one is rude on it.I just thought it was disrespectful to tammy to say she was a prostitute.

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 04:14 PM
Hi
I don't think it's closing if no one is rude on it.I just thought it was disrespectful to tammy to say she was a prositute.

suzanne
Well I sure agree if it was just to be said for saying it or being mean but if it was something to be considered then it is not. It must be considered. So what if she was just for the sake of argument, that means nothing, if she was then it had a reason behind it, it something most people do , some do it for reasons different than others and some have to do it to live.

It is a natural thing to do, procreation. It is not bad, just consider the reason for it being said.

Trust me, it is no insult for this to be said.

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 04:38 PM
Hi
I'm not starting trouble with you.Please just let the police handle that ok?

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 04:56 PM
Hi
I'm not starting trouble with you.Please just let the police handle that ok?

suzanne

Mam I am not starting trouble with anyone. I was making conversation and trying to appease you that this is not a blight on Tammy. That is all I am saying, I am not sure what you are saying I should let the police handle.

I cannot let them decide what we talk about that is for sure. Never would do that and I am sure you would not either.

If you tell me what offended you I will try to correct that.

Please, I am not trying to argue in fact I thought I was doing just the opposite of that.

Signed
confused in sitcomsonline, usa

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 05:03 PM
Hi
Just please do not call her a prostitute.

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 08:17 PM
Hi
Just please do not call her a prostitute.

suzanne

I DID NOT call her a prostitute, have you said anything to someone who did? I was told that coming on here I would find you very unreasonable and they were right.

I believe if you read what is written you will find I did not say that.

i was told that anyone new on here would have problems, they were right again.

I have not said it and have had no intentions of saying it but I will if it fits what I am saying and trying to explain to someone.

How is it you call yourself objective enough to accomplish anything. The only person who will tell me what not to say will be the moderator on here.

I would ban you. Again, I was told you would be unreasonable and would ask silly things. True I see.

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 08:33 PM
Hi
No one has ever said I was unreasonable.I get along very well with every one and usually do not ever have problems.Another poster said she was a prostitute.Which was disrespectful and I reported it.It was removed..Some things do not need to be talked about on a public board.The police should handle it.No one that was new for years has ever had a problem on here for many years untill recently from people from another board.Hopefully that is over with.The police were called on them and the police handled it.Untill then I have never had any problems from any one and for years no problems from any one on this board.I have been to many boards and never had a problem with any one.But no.I do not appreciate people coming on to the board saying my sister is a prostitute.I don't think that's silly for me to ask people not to do.Are you a male or a female.You sound familiar to me?

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 08:43 PM
Tammy was hooking for her mother before this planned vanishing act happened.
It is not uncommon for a girl in the sex industry to change her identity for numerious reasons all regarding protection for family and friends.... and considering her mothers business of being a child talent aganet.... Tammy probably got legal assistance for the name and social security number change from their lawyer, Walter Lebowitz whom was years later disbared. Probably why she wanted Keith to take her south was to pick up her new ID.

Tammy was brought up with acting and modeling and solicitation (getting sponsors for her mothers beauty pagents) at a very early age and she certainly got to know many people of such porssible character to become clients fo Her's (Tammy). Their living situation was one of question and where they would be living next. Needless to say there was constant financial pressure.

Linda certainly knew this vanishing act, was part of it, and of course Wing knows this as well as Wally E. and Keith R. also know.

This is not speculation as I was there when all this happened and there is a lot more that I'm not posting here.

She was never really missing but given her mothers business....

As an adult, Tammy has the right to legally request the police to respect her privacy, and they have to, legally. This explains why the police never really looked for her as they didn't need to and probably knew how to get in touch with her.

Linda obviously had enough connections and influence with the local media and beyond, to promote this illusion of a missing person.... It is all entertainment right? look up "missing white woman syndrome"

There was never a threat against Tammy, but only their own fabrications about what to expect from someone they were going to play head games with over this. I believe the idea was to make a claim of a threat having been made and then try and motivate someone to fullfill the claim. You mess with someone long enough and they wil get angry.
Guess how I know this!

The value of the threat is that it helped to obtain a new social security number. read up on what conditions are that one can obtain a new SS#

Linda was one of the financial benefactors of Tammy's ... new career. There is a lot of money in prostitution and under the guise of escort services (should she have ever gone that way - word of mouth may have been all she needed) and proper protocal client/girl it's legal in all 50 states. How much extra would you pay to know something the public believes to be something else?

Tammy is not the first "missing" girl to do this. I'd imagine having a place to live is no longer an issue for her, but a matter of which of her houses she is curently at. I believes she also has a preference of driving white corvettes. Wing would be of course someone to investigate his property holdings.


Well Suzanne, you called me out on the word prostitute, I quote from a previous poster where they say she was hooking. Not me. You said nothing to this person and yet you call me out as soon as I get here. I cannot help but see that you refer to new posters , do you treat all new posters this way?

This post was not deleted and I did not say it, never even hinted at it.

You have no right to come on to me, tell me what I cannot say , period.

I am not going to argue with you but I believe you are the problem I have heard about. Others have an interest in this case, you have no right to come out and try to discourage others from posting anything they want.

I doubt you reported anything to the police and I doubt that the police handled anything having to do with any forum. It is none of their business what is said on a forum.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 08:45 PM
--- A girl as beautiful as she was (an easy 11/10 in my book) doesn't just disappear into thin air. She is the type of person that if she was still out there would be turning heads on a daily basis. It's just a shame what happened.----

(Apologies , to any of Tammy's relatives that might be offended by this)

1. If Tammy were living in Boise, Idaho (no offense to any Boise people on this site) she might stick out. But, In Florida,i would imagine there are several woman that would fit Tammy's description in looks and stature. Like finding a needle in a haystack.

2. If Tammy were done up and looking like a model 24-7 she might stand out, but in her regular clothes and without makeup. She probably would be indistiguishable from any other teenager in the area. Heck my 17 yr old niece is a dead ringer for Tammy. Just imagine if you saw any of those supermodels out of makeups and in regular clothes. You probably wouldn;t recognize them either

3. Drugs, alcohol, mental and physical stress and lack of good grooming habits, (and i hate to say this, disease) could radically alter Tammy's appearance

4. Not everyone is as informed on this case as us UM watchers. The average joe on the street wouldn't know Tammy Leppert from Brittany Spears. Nor would they know that she is missing.

5. With apologies to the actress who played her (and that actress was gorgeous as well:happyface, good actor too! Anyone know who she was??) This case is also one of those instances where i think some people who saw the segment were looking more for the face of the actress rather than the actual person.

the point i'm trying to make is that it is not that unlikely that Tammy could be alive and living today.

She could easily be (even now):

1. A prostitute living in Vegas, Amsterdam, hell maybe the Phillipines
2. A homeless person who has long lost her looks,
3. One of the many crazy people we overlook and see in the streets
4. A fugitive living with a drug dealer or some other criminal
5. A pornstar under a different name doing kinky acts.
6. An amnesiac who has never recovered her memory and is living a comfortable life with two children and a husband somewhere.
7. Scrubbing toilets in Des Moines, Iowa for 10.50 an hr.
8. She may be living comfortably with her child and is at peace.

I think we really underestimate how easy it is disappear from life. Venice Beach in California and parts of Florida are filled with people who have simply dropped out of life for various reasons.
I did not write this either, I also see your goal, to get the moderator to shut this thread down, that is clear.

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 08:52 PM
Hi
Mastermind was not rude about it.I respect that.I am not trying to discourage any one and there was no problem untill today on this thread.Another poster called her a prositute and I reported it and that post was removed.I was asking everyone to please not call her a prostitute and to please just call the police if they know something.I was not just signaling you out.no one has ever said I was problem.I did report them to the police and other people know this.This is what I please do not want.Please do not argue on tammy's thread.Please keep it to the investigation of finding tammy ok?I'm sorry if you took things the wrong way.

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 08:59 PM
I have no earthly idea where you are coming from or what you are saying. I have nothing else to say about it. I will say what I want to say, not what someone else tells me to say and yes, you posted to me. And there are threads calling her a hooker and you did not protest that.

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 09:04 PM
Hi
Let's please keep this thread on tammy ok?

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 09:09 PM
Hi
Let's please keep this thread on tammy ok?

suzanne
I was keeping it on Tammy, you are the one who came out and told me not to use the word prostitute.

You want to know who I am ? Here we go again, why have you chosen to single me out? Is there anyone else you have asked?

I will talk about Tammy as I please and who I am is none of your concern. Trust me on this, you would never know me. You have no reason to know me.

You back off of me and this thread will remain on Tammy.

crystaldawn
11-28-2008, 09:12 PM
Hi
Let's please keep this thread on tammy ok?

suzanne

I agree with that comment suzanne but you are not here to police the Tammy threads or criticize people for voicing their opinion. If you want to comment on the actual case feel free but it is up to myself or TJ, not you, to deal with any posts we feel are out of line.

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 09:17 PM
Thankyou and I did report them to you to deal with and you did.thankyou.I just please would like no disrespect to my sister on the threads and I feel calling my sister a prostitute was way out of line.I tried to private email this person so this could have been done privately.not on a board.I have done nothing wrong here and have never had a problem any where.

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 09:21 PM
One of the primary reasons I came on this site was this. I read court documents that said Tammy had been institutionalized, one date was a date after she was reported missing.

Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this may have to do with her missing?

Does anyone know if Tammy had ever been arrested before on the possibility her prints were already on file somewhere?

I believe in coincidence but it just seems the institution matter was just too close in time not to be related to the disappearance, or rather it is too close in time to be ruled out as far as I have seen it.

Has anyone ever seen any other court documents such as this?

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 09:32 PM
Hi
The police report says she was reported missing on the July 11 1983.I have seen and have the court paper where it says she was released on the 5th of July 1983 from the mental home.Tammy was arrested for driving with out a licence or recklace driving I believe the year before I think.She was not fingerprinted.We asked.I am told they do not have finger prints on tammy.

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 09:34 PM
Thankyou and I did report them to you to deal with and you did.thankyou.I just please would like no disrespect to my sister on the threads and I feel calling my sister a prostitute was way out of line.I tried to private email this person so this could have been done privately.not on a board.I have done nothing wrong here and have never had a problem any where.

suzanne

Now wait just a minute. Lets get something clear and in public. You reference a private message to someone, was that me? The inference is you could not handle it privately, I answered you yet you come public leaving the impression I could not be dealt with privately.

I believe I will report you to the moderator for this falsehood.

I will post your private message to me and my answer. What are you trying to do?

I am just a poster like all others and I too have done nothing, absolutely nothing. I was told this would happen if something did not go your way and it sure is.

The moderator has seen all said and by who, I will post that private mail exchange if the moderator wants.

I DO NOT WANT THIS. I want no problems and was having none.

It is a false impression you are trying to give this board about someone new and you do not even know.

I feel sure the moderator does not want all this, I sure don't but I will not be censored and I will not be lied about.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 09:35 PM
Hi
The police report says she was reported on the July 11 1983.I have seen and have the courtpaper where it says she was released on the 5th of July 1983 from the mental home.Tammy was arrested for driving with out a licence or recklace I believe the year before I think.She was not fingerprinted.We asked.I am told they do not have finger prints on tammy.

suzanne

OK, I think I saved the document.Let me see if I can get the dates to see if they are the same ones we each saw.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 09:43 PM
Document Type: (DG) DISCHARGE
Modified Date:
Record Date : 7/27/1983
Event Date : 7/27/1983
From Party: LEPPERT,TAMMY ()

To Party: LEPPERT,TAMMY ()

Book Type: OR
Book / Page: 2444 / 2517
# of Pages: 1
Consideration: 0.00
Comments 83-8212-CP
Legal:
Address:
Case Number: 05-1983-CP-008212-XXXX-XX
__________________

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 09:51 PM
Hi
we need to stop this ok?I private messaged you.You just now wrote me back.No I do not want problems on my sisters thread.Please keep to tammy.

suzanne

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 09:52 PM
Hi
That was when they say it was recorded.When do they say she was discarged on it?

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 09:54 PM
Hi
I private messaged you.You just now wrote me back.No I do not want problems on my sisters thread.Please keep to tammy.

suzanne
Moderator, if you are there, would you please advise this woman to leave me alone? I have asked and asked now and she will not stop. This is ridiculous. I am making a formal complaint that this poster will not stop private messaging me and trying to censor my posts on this site. I have never seen anything like this on any other site.

This is designed to make me look like the new person coming on causing trouble, for whatever reason she has. I have said nothing.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 10:05 PM
Hi
That was when they say it was recorded.When do they say she was discarged on it?

suzanne
If you read what I posted it says discharged on the date on the copy of the post I just posted. Whether that is true or not I do not know, I was not there, that is what it says, I did not write that I copied and pasted.

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 10:12 PM
The PDF file of the other document will not paste on here. It has the date for follow up examination as 7/5/1983.

Barry l Hensel Phd

Brevard Mental Health Center

Official Records Brevard County Florida

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 10:12 PM
Hi
I have not bothered any one and up untill today there has been no problems on this thread with me or any one.I reported this to the moderators.Please no more trouble.This is my sisters thread.

suzanne

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 10:13 PM
Hi
She was discharged from the mental home on the 5th of july 1983.

suzanne

SMarilynCollier
11-28-2008, 10:21 PM
The doc I cannot post says discharged 7/5/83 as I said, it also has a scheduled follow up for the same day. I see to the file stamp where it was stamped 7/27/83. But there is the other doc that says the discharge date was 7/27/83.

This is after the date she was reported missing, any idea what this could mean and could it impact all the searching and work you have done so far.

Have you seen that before, 7/27/83?

friend
11-28-2008, 10:23 PM
I can say that true knew Tammy very well and spent allot of time with Tammy. True was a dear friend of Tammys. Tammys sister Debbie can also tell you that.

Friend

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 10:40 PM
hi
Tim was around for a little while before tammy came up missing and tammy was not close to him.The FDLE and CBPD has spoken with him as a person of interest so to speak.

suzanne

friend
11-28-2008, 10:49 PM
How do you know that Tim was not close to Tammy? You wern't around to know that. I would have to say that Tim is a very honest man. Now he is a person of intrest? Does he know that he is now a person of intrest. I bet you he blows when he hears that.

friend

friend
11-28-2008, 10:55 PM
Tammy was released from the hospital on the 5th and was gone by the 6th. Linda did not even report her missing until a week later. Tammy called her sister Debbie house about 2 weeks after she left. A month or so before she went awall she called Debbie and asked could she come stay with her because she was tired of her mom. Tammy decieded not to go to Debbies because she knew that would be the first place she would look for her.

Tammy left on her own. Until you produce a body that is what I will always feel is the truth.

Friend

dawnfla6aa2
11-28-2008, 11:14 PM
I think most teenage girls have disagreements and get irritated with their mothers. If Tammy didn't get along with her mother, I don't find that unusual.

I grew up only a few miles away from the glass bank and I can tell you there weren't many times I passed by without saying a quick prayer for her and her family.

I hope people understand that all anyone wants is closure. Whether it's finding she left on her own or if it's finding out she deceased.

suzannec4444
11-28-2008, 11:15 PM
Hi
I agree people just want closure.I think tim was very helpful to the police.I do not think they think he is bad now.I'm not sure.I was not around when tammy came up missing.No one was and for a very long time.I have been looking into my sisters case personally for over 13 years now.My ex husband and I have investigated her case for many years and know more than many people.The CBPD detective cooper and FDLE work with me and for a very long time now.so if you need to know something we would know.Not other people that haven't looked very long.

suzanne

Dislimb
11-28-2008, 11:40 PM
This is designed to make me look like the new person coming on causing trouble...

That is precisely what you are in my estimation. Suzanne is Tammy's sister and is obviously more passionate and knowledgeable about this case than you are despite your own delusions. While I may not agree with Suzanne on what became of Tammy, she has always been very respectful of the other posters on this board. Something that cannot be said for you, my dear. From your very first post on this forum you did nothing but try to stir up trouble. Then you have the audacity to plead with the moderators to ban Suzanne. You're a real piece of work, lady. Hell, at least I waited for a couple of years on this board before I started being a smartass.

dawnfla6aa2
11-28-2008, 11:53 PM
I have to agree with you Dislimb. I've only been on here for a week or so but I am very familiar with this case and have read all of the threads. Suzanne seems to be an extraordinary person. I don't think I could handle some of these posts as well as she does. And I mean all the posts not just the new ones.

porchlight
11-29-2008, 12:08 AM
I DID NOT call her a prostitute, have you said anything to someone who did? I was told that coming on here I would find you very unreasonable and they were right.

I believe if you read what is written you will find I did not say that.

i was told that anyone new on here would have problems, they were right again.

I have not said it and have had no intentions of saying it but I will if it fits what I am saying and trying to explain to someone.

How is it you call yourself objective enough to accomplish anything. The only person who will tell me what not to say will be the moderator on here.

I would ban you. Again, I was told you would be unreasonable and would ask silly things. True I see.


Who told you these things? They are patently untrue.

porchlight
11-29-2008, 12:58 AM
Tammy left on her own. Until you produce a body that is what I will always feel is the truth.

Friend

This is, of course, possible. I think the story of her disappearance indicates that she left of her own free will. That doesn't mean something hasn't happened to her since then, though. One fact does not preclude the other from being possible.

SMarilynCollier
11-29-2008, 01:04 AM
That is precisely what you are in my estimation. Suzanne is Tammy's sister and is obviously more passionate and knowledgeable about this case than you are despite your own delusions. While I may not agree with Suzanne on what became of Tammy, she has always been very respectful of the other posters on this board. Something that cannot be said for you, my dear. From your very first post on this forum you did nothing but try to stir up trouble. Then you have the audacity to plead with the moderators to ban Suzanne. You're a real piece of work, lady. Hell, at least I waited for a couple of years on this board before I started being a smartass.

Please explain why you say I caused trouble. Because I posted a document garnered from a court clerk? Because I resent being harassed for saying something I never said? You will get what you want. I will not stay on a site replete with a roomful of idiots. You are all hysterical idiots who do not seek answers you simply want to sit around smoking opium and posturing about how to keep the case unresolved. You make claims you have no idea about, you have no way of knowing who Suzanne is than anyone on here but your own self and I question that.

Based on what I see here Suzanne is a phony followed by a bunch of hysterical monkeys , one points thinking they saw something and the whole bunch flees screaming as if they were under attack.

I said nothing and I did nothing. I recieved pm after pm after I told her to stop from a woman who fears that resolution of the case will end her courtship with attention.

That the moderators allow new members to be attacked for no reason and to be spoken to in the way I have been spoken to is incredible.

Delusional? What in the world are you talking about?

what you are in my estimation. Suzanne is Tammy's sister and is obviously more passionate and knowledgeable about this case than you are despite your own delusions.WHAT DELUSIONS IF YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE A CASER THEN POST THE EVIDENCE OF THAT, NAME THEM While I may not agree with Suzanne on what became of Tammy, she has always ALWAYS IS A GENERALIZED TERM USED BY HYSTERICS been very respectful of the other posters on this board. Something that cannot be said for you, my dear. From your very first post on this forum you did nothing but try to stir up trouble.HOW? Then you have the audacity to plead with the moderators to ban Suzanne. I ASKED FOR NO ONE TO BE BANNED IF YOUR MODERATOR HAS ANY SELF RESPECT AT ALL THEY WILL COME ABOARD AND INFORM YOU SO You're a real piece of work, lady. Hell, at least I waited for a couple of years on this board before I started being a smartass.YOU ARE NO A SMART ASS IN PARTICULAR, YOU ARE A DUMB ASS [/QUOTE]

I have official records from that hospital stay, I have the investigators notes from other than the face sheet, I have the interviews of those spoken to, i have the birth records of the so-called Suzanne Blanchard and the name changes she has had leaving a trail of unknowns that leads to the conclusion that she has no idea who she is, the same idea she herself made in a written statement _" I really do not know who I am". Linda Curtis does not give birth to a child by the names of another 3 men , you have all been duped by a Virginia misfit.

I have statements from dozens about this case , it is a lie I asked anyone to ban anyone, it is a lie that I used the word whore or prostitute, it is a lie that law enforcement helped "Suzanne" or maybe that is Cheryl, right Suzanne, enforce anything against anyone on any board.

I came here with the idea of sharing the official records I have instead of another board but that now is an idea for history.

MODERATOR- IF YOU HAVE ANY INTENTS OF CONTROLLING THIS BOARD YOU SHOULD START NOW BY INFORMING THEM OF WHAT I TOLD YOU , INFORM THEM THE TRUTH, INFORM THEM OF THE REPEATED AND SENSELESS INCESSANT PRIVATE MESSAGING. YOUR FAILURE TO TO WHAT THE TRUTH IS ONLY LENDS MORE TO THE INSANITY OF THE SO-CALLED SUZANNE AND HER CANCEROUS INFECTION OF YOUR SITE.

DO NOT WORRY ABOUT BANNING ME. I AM LEAVING THIS CUCKOO NEST. YOU CAN HAVE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO WALLOW IN THEIR WORLD OF CRAP BASED ON YEARS OF LYING.

"SUZANNE" IS THE PET OF THIS FORUM AS YOU HAVE GIVEN IN REPEATEDLY TO HER WHINING AND YOU ALLOW HER TO RUN OFF PEOPLE WHO HAVE REAL AND FACTUAL INFORMATION, SO SHE WILL NOT LOSE HER PLACE ON THE STAGE.


DISLIMB MUST BE "SUZANNES" SISTER, INSANITY SEEMS TO BE INHERANT THERE BUT FOR TWO OF THEM..

HAVE AT IT SICK PEOPLE.

porchlight
11-29-2008, 01:17 AM
You are all hysterical idiots who do not seek answers you simply want to sit around smoking opium and posturing about how to keep the case unresolved. You make claims you have no idea about

"You make claims you have no idea about" ???? Isn't that what you just did here?

suzannec4444
11-29-2008, 01:41 AM
Hi
I did not harrass this person with private messages.They were answering me back.I was trying to do this privately and not put this crap on tammy's thread again.It's rude to tammy.I would like to say the FDLE and the CBPD just verified who I was.That I am Tammy's sister by blood and yes I do work with these police and on a regular basis.I just pray one day we can find tammy.

suzanne

porchlight
11-29-2008, 01:42 AM
[QUOTE=SMarilynCollier]I think that you all should settle down and stop arguing. Using odds to make argument is counterproductive. I just posted an answer to one question about kidnapped girls being found 20 years later.

QUOTE]

The article you posted indicates this child was found the same night she was kidnapped. Twenty years later they are still looking for the kidnappers?
But her most vivid memory is that of two airborne sheriff's deputies who, acting on a hunch, found her on a lonely hillside late that night. Cold. Frightened. But alive.
I am not sure what this is supposed to illustrate?

Dislimb
11-29-2008, 03:15 AM
I will not stay on a site replete with a roomful of idiots. You are all hysterical idiots who do not seek answers you simply want to sit around smoking opium and posturing about how to keep the case unresolved.

Cute talk, sugar mouth.

Based on what I see here Suzanne is a phony followed by a bunch of hysterical monkeys.

It's been pretty long established that she is Tammy's sister. But you wouldn't know that because you just joined this site yesterday.

YOU ARE NO A SMART ASS IN PARTICULAR, YOU ARE A DUMB ASS

I've been called far worse names then that.

MODERATOR- IF YOU HAVE ANY INTENTS OF CONTROLLING THIS BOARD YOU SHOULD START NOW BY INFORMING THEM OF WHAT I TOLD YOU , INFORM THEM THE TRUTH, INFORM THEM OF THE REPEATED AND SENSELESS INCESSANT PRIVATE MESSAGING. YOUR FAILURE TO TO WHAT THE TRUTH IS ONLY LENDS MORE TO THE INSANITY OF THE SO-CALLED SUZANNE AND HER CANCEROUS INFECTION OF YOUR SITE.

TJ and crystaldawn do a fine job of moderating this place as it is without your suggestions. And besides, if you really wanted to make an honest suggestion I would reccommend doing so without the CAPS Lock on.

DO NOT WORRY ABOUT BANNING ME. I AM LEAVING THIS CUCKOO NEST.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

HAVE AT IT SICK PEOPLE.

We shall do just that, but thanks for your concern. :lol:

wiseguy182
11-29-2008, 05:17 AM
I think we'll manage to pick up the pieces of SMarilynCollier's departure and move on, somehow. :rolleyes:

true
11-29-2008, 06:45 AM
This stopped being a genuine police matter the moment Tammy walked into the Cocoa Beach Police station and did what ever it is that she needed to (lie if that was what it took) do to explain that she wanted to vanish, and make them respect her adult wish. Perhas there was some paperwork too. But why the Cocoa Beach Police Department? Not the Cocoa or Rockledge Police Department? Merrit Island I believe is handled by the police departments of what ever one is closets in location (for quicker response time - given Merritt Island is a long island)

They were living in Rockledge and before then Merrit Island in the Cocoa side.
The reason for the Cocoa Beach Police department was probably due to "connections" they had with the Cocoa Beach Police Department.

This vanishing act of Tammy's was not a sudden happening, it was planned, and not by just Tammy, but her mother Linda also. Wing also knew, maybe not from the beginning of the plan but he certainly participated.

Prostitution is the name business she works in. If I was going to be disrespectful, I'd call her a whore. And considering that she just didn't let go, after I saw her at the bar but persisted to remind me via head games, mysterious phone calls, etc. every so many years (after reported missing) perhaps I should as I'd centainly be in my rights to.

The public image of the "Tami Lynn Leppert" person, is no more and stopped existing the moment Tammy vanished.

It was planned, how long in advanced I don't know but I can speculate years, that she was being groomed for it. To be a high priced prostitute.

What Tammy decided to do with her life was and is her choice, as it is or should be with any of us. But she intentionally deceptively interfeared with mine and in no small way and because of this I do have a say by my legal rights.

I know the police/authorities are not going to do anything in regards to closing this case. After 25 years and what all I know, I know this to be hard fact. So when anyone comes to me and tells me to let the police or authorities "handle it" what they are really saying to me is "disrespect yourself Tim".

NO! Suzanne, you were one of the pople that brought this matter back into my life, and it follows well (its not a non-sequiter) that you'd say this to me. From my POV, you Suzanne are trying to cover for Tammy.

Tammy is a prostitute, it is what it is called and industry title. And this was a well planned career move of which she had help, even from her mother.

I'm probably the last person in the world who wants to believe or know this, to accept it. And after 25 years, I do. So should you, unless you are covering for her which would follow your MO, Suzanne.

This matter, this phony case, will not be resolved but exposed. As Detective Lewis once told me, this case details will not be made public for 50 years after the last remaining person involved is dead. And that's from a police POV only regarding the paperwork they have. It doesn't apply to what I know and can communicate.

true
11-29-2008, 07:18 AM
Suzanne C. what is your middle and last name?

SMarilynCollier what is your first name?