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Lorimar Television 07-07-2008, 05:58 PM I recorded the episode Tor Between Two Lovers on nick at nite, and also saw the episode on youtube from abc family and I noticed somting. Nick cut out the scene where Rachel can't find Richie and it turns out he and Carl were reading the paper and Harriet suggests she buys a baby monitor. I also noticed when Steve is talking to Eddie about how to know if a girl likes him, abc family cut out the part where Eddie asks Steve what kind of signs he sees and Steve said how she always compliments him and touches him alot and Eddie says stuff like compliments are good.
Does anyone else notice anymore scenes? I know they removed many cold opens from season 2 and abc family only had like 3 episodes without them.
Brent88 07-07-2008, 07:10 PM In "The Science Project" Nick cuts out a scene where Laura says she's going to call 911 about Steve's atomic bomb and looks for the phone. In the ABC Family version, she tracks the cord to the closet and finds Eddie inside talking to a girl. On Nick the entire thing is cut. She starts to look for it then we see the next scene which is Rachel coming down the stairs as an angel.
The cold opens have been removed on Nick so far from "Dedicated to the One I Love", "Fast Eddie Winslow", and "Busted".
Brent88 07-07-2008, 09:11 PM "Son"
Cut from ABC Family: Steve teaching Carl Korean and then later Carl yelling at Steve to leave. Little part of Eddie and Laura's convo as he sneaks out of the house.
New on Nick: Eddie giving Jolene a "chest hair" update over the phone. A few lines as Eddie talks to Harriette as he's packing to leave(both of which I had never heard before).
Commercial breaks were in weird places vs. ABC Family.
Lorimar Television 07-08-2008, 12:32 AM Are you sure about Steve talking in Japanese? I thought it was on ABC family. You're right about the scene in "The Science Project", I forgot to mention it!
Brent88 07-08-2008, 01:37 AM Are you sure about Steve talking in Japanese? I thought it was on ABC family. You're right about the scene in "The Science Project", I forgot to mention it!
It was on ABC Family, but it's not on N@N(the part where he tries to teach Carl).
"Choir Trouble"
Cut from ABC Family's version: Beginning of the open when Carl first yells they'll be late as usual and Richie comes in with grape juice spilled on him.
New on Nick: A couple of lines when Rachel is telling members of the choir how to change and Harriette injects.
Pavan 07-08-2008, 10:59 AM These Family Matters episodes seem very similar to what locals and TBS/WGN aired. Can anyone confirm this?
Lorimar Television 07-08-2008, 05:37 PM It was on ABC Family, but it's not on N@N(the part where he tries to teach Carl).
OK got it. I was just confused. You should say cut from "abcfamily" meaning that scene was NOT on abcfamily.:)
Brent88 07-09-2008, 02:38 AM These Family Matters episodes seem very similar to what locals and TBS/WGN aired. Can anyone confirm this?
I only have a few TBS episodes from Season 6. When we get there on Nick then I can compare.
Nick's episode are running right at 21 minutes, ABC Family's ran about 21:30(including their shortened credits and long theme).
Anyway, didn't see much difference in either episode tonight. Only a couple of lines and small stuff either cut or added from the ABC Family version. Did notice the commercials in "Old and Alone" were in odd places though.
Lorimar Television 07-09-2008, 12:43 PM Yeah, Nick at Nite had a much better spot for their commercial break. ABC Family's was right between when Laura was waking up from her dream, and it didn't seem right.
Furienna 07-10-2008, 11:53 AM Reading this makes me so glad, that we don't cut the episodes in Sweden.
Lorimar Television 07-10-2008, 04:45 PM Yeah, rub it in why don't ya?! lol just kidding! But its also kinda good, because after you see the eps over and over, seeing new lines are kind of cool!
Another one from Life of The Party, Nick cuts out the part where Steves drunk and say "dee plane boss, dee plane"!
Lorimar Television 07-15-2008, 02:26 PM Bowl me Over- Nick removed the part of the cold open where Carl walks in and sees Steve's life size cardboard cutout and says, "Oh my God! There's two of them"! And the part where Harriet tells Laura to get Eddie because they're having a rematch.
Scoobiedoo30 07-15-2008, 03:39 PM I did not noticed the remove scene.
Brent88 07-15-2008, 05:14 PM Bowl me Over- Nick removed the part of the cold open where Carl walks in and sees Steve's life size cardboard cutout and says, "Oh my God! There's two of them"! And the part where Harriet tells Laura to get Eddie because they're having a rematch.
I noticed that but I was REALLY happy to see the scenes that ran over the credits at the end of "Car Wars" and "Hot Wheels"(though the latter was talked over at the beginning), the best part was shown. I missed those on ABC Family, looking forward to seeing more.
Furienna 07-15-2008, 05:30 PM Why do they cut scenes out in the first place? Show less comercials instead, damn it!
Brent88 07-15-2008, 05:46 PM Why do they cut scenes out in the first place? Show less comercials instead, damn it!
More ads=more money. :( Every show in syndication is edited(some networks edit shows differently as evidenced by this thread), but in the end they are all edited in some way. Now a days a primetime sitcom only runs 21 minutes on the networks(which is about what the syndication length is for these older shows, which ran 23-24 minutes originally as late as the late 90's on network TV).
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 01:37 AM Why do they cut scenes out in the first place? Show less comercials instead, damn it!
I agree. The USA is where the episodes first aired, we should get to see them in their unedited form! By the way, you were right that Judy wasn't at the end of Driving Carl Crazy when everyone came out of the isetta. EVERYBODY ELSE DID! Even Rachel and Richie!
Furienna 07-16-2008, 02:05 AM It just makes no sense to my European mind. Shouldn't the TV shows be more important than the comercials? Over here in Sweden, we didn't even have comercials on TV until twenty years ago, and many people still complain about them. Or at least my father and my brother still do. Neither of them seem to be able to lift their butts off the couch and do something else during the breaks either, like I always do. No, they just stay there and complain. But many Swedish channels have no comercials at all. TV4 Komedi, the channel I watch these sitcoms on, is one of them, even though TV4, its mother channel, have comercials. And even on the channels, that have comercials, all episodes of all shows are always complete, as far as I know. And that's what it should be like, because we want to see the whole thing!
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 02:12 AM Yeah you're lucky. So are commercials only one minute long in Sweden? We have like 5 minute commercials!
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 02:20 AM Hey check out how butchured the opening theme looks:
Season 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dn4l7AcJ6yU
Season 3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MliO-RXY_HU
Brent88 07-16-2008, 03:34 AM Hey check out how butchured the opening theme looks:
Season 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dn4l7AcJ6yU
Season 3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MliO-RXY_HU
Hey, those are my videos. :lol:
That's also the versions TBS and WGN ran over the years. Mostly what is cut from the extended theme is just old clips of the show, that doesn't bother me so much. I'll glad take the original closing credits for the short theme.
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 05:16 PM I thought they were! I'm not saying it's you're fault that they cut the theme. It was good of you to put them up. Any chance you'll add the season 1 short theme? And you're right, season TWO only takes the clips awway, and part of the bike scene and family at the end. But season 1 and 3 cuts all the scees shorter then the longer theme. This is the long season 3 theme, you'll notice how much of the cast intro scene is cut.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBqcEo5CNTQ
I do agree though, I'd rather have end scenes. But I'd much more rather having EVERY SINGLE SCENE!
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 05:23 PM And you can kinda compare season 1 here. This is the pilot theme, but's it basically the same, except for Judy, and the family at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JLqbaJ0AY&NR=1
And the long version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJzpPNRHCmY
Brent88 07-16-2008, 05:25 PM I thought they were! I'm not saying it's you're fault that they cut the theme. It was good of you to put them up. Any chance you'll add the season 1 short theme? And you're right, season TWO only takes the clips awway, and part of the bike scene and family at the end. But season 1 and 3 cuts all the scees shorter then the longer theme. This is the long season 3 theme, you'll notice how much of the cast intro scene is cut.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBqcEo5CNTQ
I do agree though, I'd rather have end scenes. But I'd much more rather having EVERY SINGLE SCENE!
Well I definitely agree there. Hopefully a DVD release will come eventually. :(
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 05:32 PM Me too. Any chance you'll add the season 1 short theme?
Brent88 07-16-2008, 06:28 PM Me too. Any chance you'll add the season 1 short theme?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBswQn3OtFw
and I also posted the closing credits for mostly seasons 1-3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RAjF9lvmcc
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 06:48 PM Thanks! I'm just curious, is there a reason why you used the season 4-6 song on seasons 2 and 3, because they used the original higher tempo version and I noticed yours doesn't.
TVFactFan 07-16-2008, 07:47 PM I hope N@N does't cut this scene out in the ep-"South of the Border" when Waldo was in a mexican jail and when he gets out he starts Dancing-lol
I will not watch family matters on N@N again if that dance scene with Waldo is Cut out after getting out of jail
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 09:13 PM That's season 7 right? I doubt they'll be cutting much out since shows weren't as long, so there won't be many scenes to cut.
TVFactFan 07-16-2008, 09:22 PM That's season 7 right? I doubt they'll be cutting much out since shows weren't as long, so there won't be many scenes to cut.
Yup season 7, and it aired in Jan of 96
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 09:32 PM Yeah, I don't think there will be many scenes cut.
Brent88 07-16-2008, 09:56 PM Yeah I doubt it too, if it aired on TBS and WGN(which I think it did), then I seriously doubt N@N will cut it. They seem to be following the general syndication edits(excluding ABC Family).
Brent88 07-16-2008, 09:57 PM Thanks! I'm just curious, is there a reason why you used the season 4-6 song on seasons 2 and 3, because they used the original higher tempo version and I noticed yours doesn't.
Hmmmm, I've never really noticed that. :eek: I'm gonna have to go back and listen. :lol: Strange because I listen to the theme so much(sometimes multiple times in a row, lol)
I had one audio file with the short theme and just used it for all the short credits videos I posted.
Lorimar Television 07-16-2008, 10:35 PM Here, listen to this one and then yours, you might notice if you listen carefully!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsJwuEaU70
Brent88 07-17-2008, 12:18 AM Here, listen to this one and then yours, you might notice if you listen carefully!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsJwuEaU70
Yep, I can. :lol: Weird.
Lorimar Television 07-17-2008, 12:22 AM Yeah. I like the season 1-3 better.
Brent88 07-18-2008, 12:23 AM Scenes from a Mall:
Nick cut the cold open when the mall warns everyone Urkel is arriving and then it shuts down and he makes a comment about the mall being closed everytime he comes.
Rock Enroll:
At the end of the cold open after Urkel's fan goes haywire, Waldo has an I told you so type line that was cut.
Also seemed to be a couple of other weird edits.
Pavan 07-18-2008, 01:00 AM I hate how they are doing the split screen during the closing credit scenes. I wanted to see that James Avery scene at the end of that 11pm episode tonight! Haven't seen that in ages!
Brent88 07-18-2008, 01:33 AM I hate how they are doing the split screen during the closing credit scenes. I wanted to see that James Avery scene at the end of that 11pm episode tonight! Haven't seen that in ages!
I do hate that but at least they don't COMPLETELY destroy it like ABC Family did. I had totally forgotten about that scene.
Lorimar Television 07-18-2008, 02:23 AM Yeah, plus well see it in the 8:30 slot!
MikeLutton 07-18-2008, 02:44 AM that part was aired at very end of the credits i saw it i was so glad it was on but do hate split screenwhen u cant hear waht their saying
Brent88 07-18-2008, 03:37 AM Yeah, plus well see it in the 8:30 slot!
Unfortunately we won't. It doesn't air at 8:30 on Friday. :( (Check Pav's schedule post)
The talking over is the worst. I want to hear what they are saying not the same promo I've seen 200 times. :rolleyes:
Furienna 07-18-2008, 08:40 AM Yeah you're lucky. So are commercials only one minute long in Sweden? We have like 5 minute commercials!
We usually have five minutes breaks too. But we're still mostly able to keep one episode of a sitcom at a 30 minutes length. But that's only American sitcoms. Brittish sitcoms, like "Allo allo" and "Keeping up appearances", which originally had no comercial breaks (Brittish people aren't too keen on comercials either), may have to run 35 minutes, if there's going to be a comercial break, because the episode originally already was 30 minutes long. But it seems like we in Sweden rather cut the comercial breaks short or let some TV shows get a five minutes longer slot than edit the episodes.
Brent88 07-19-2008, 01:48 AM Like a Virgin:
In the cold open, Nick-at-Nite cuts the part where after Steve's helmet goes beserk on Carl's head, Carl yells at him leave and after he does he's holding the helmet still and it starts to act up again before he drops it and then in the ABC Family version the credits roll.
On the other hand, we got a long scene at the end over the credits with Steve and Myra. The beginning was cut off as usual but a large part of it was not.
TVFactFan 07-19-2008, 11:07 AM Like a Virgin:
In the cold open, Nick-at-Nite cuts the part where after Steve's helmet goes beserk on Carl's head, Carl yells at him leave and after he does he's holding the helmet still and it starts to act up again before he drops it and then in the ABC Family version the credits roll.
On the other hand, we got a long scene at the end over the credits with Steve and Myra. The beginning was cut off as usual but a large part of it was not.
I never seen this episode before either because I don't remember ever seeing Eddie CRY and i never recall a scene with Myra chasing Steve into a Locker and then shutting it
Lorimar Television 07-25-2008, 10:32 PM Number One with A Bullet- Nick cut out Judy and Richies lines about getting Steve a book and Judy lifted Richie so he could get it out of a dumpster.
Brieannas21 08-02-2008, 12:35 AM In tonight’s episode "Fight the Good Fight" When Laura goes to her locker and reads the note, After Steve grabs the notes and crumple it up, Didn't N@N cut the scene where Laura closes her locker and the "N" word is written on her locker??? Didn't that happen in the original airing??? Or am I imagining things??
Brent88 08-02-2008, 02:12 AM In tonight’s episode "Fight the Good Fight" When Laura goes to her locker and reads the note, After Steve grabs the notes and crumple it up, Didn't N@N cut the scene where Laura closes her locker and the "N" word is written on her locker??? Didn't that happen in the original airing??? Or am I imagining things??
Yep, it was in the ABC Family version also.
I watched that episode on Nick last night, I wanted to see if Nick cut out the N-word spray painted on Laura's locker. THEY DID, and I wasn't surprised. The n-word on the locker was on the original airing.
Brieannas21 08-02-2008, 01:02 PM Yep, it was in the ABC Family version also.
I watched that episode on Nick last night, I wanted to see if Nick cut out the N-word spray painted on Laura's locker. THEY DID, and I wasn't surprised. The n-word on the locker was on the original airing.
Thanks, you two, I had a feeling that part was cut out, but I had to make sure.
N@N editing sucks, I noticed last night. They didn't go to commercial when they were suppose to and then they'll go to commercial in spot where they weren't suppose to. They're editing it right up there with BET.
TVFactFan 08-02-2008, 01:09 PM Thanks, you two, I had a feeling that part was cut out, but I had to make sure.
N@N editing sucks, I noticed last night. They didn't go to commercial when they were suppose to and then they'll go to commercial in spot where they weren't suppose to. They're editing it right up there with BET.
Come Brieanna you don't have to complain about N@N's editing because they removed the scene with the N-word-lol Only if they cut out Funny and memorable scenes, but as far as editing out the N-word on Laura locker door, that's minor
Brieannas21 08-02-2008, 01:15 PM Come Brieanna you don't have to complain about N@N's editing because they removed the scene with the N-word-lol Only if they cut out Funny and memorable scenes, but as far as editing out the N-word on Laura locker door, that's minor
Yes, I'm complaining because they aren't putting their commercial breaks where they are suppose to be. They are going to commercial in odd places, just like BET. And the part that they cut last night was an important part because that’s one of the main reasons why Laura was so upset and the reason why Carl was so pissed off.
Brent88 08-02-2008, 01:23 PM N editing sucks, I noticed last night. They didn't go to commercial when they were suppose to and then they'll go to commercial in spot where they weren't suppose to. They're editing it right up there with BET.
While it does bug me a bit, I've seen worse(and I wasn't surprised they cut the N-word out). ABC Family forced commercials into weird spots too(and they had 3 vs. 2 which is what Nick-at-Nite has). They would go to a break with no warning at all whereas at least Nick plays a short piece of music to warn you.
Oh and watching TV Land right now, boy have they changed. Commercials being put in weird places and the credits are now like ABC Family. At least Nick-at-Nite has kept Family Matters in tact even though they do talk over some of it.
and don't get me started on that Family Foreman crap. :rolleyes:
Brieannas21 08-02-2008, 11:47 PM While it does bug me a bit, I've seen worse(and I wasn't surprised they cut the N-word out). ABC Family forced commercials into weird spots too(and they had 3 vs. 2 which is what Nick-at-Nite has). They would go to a break with no warning at all whereas at least Nick plays a short piece of music to warn you.
Oh and watching TV Land right now, boy have they changed. Commercials being put in weird places and the credits are now like ABC Family. At least Nick-at-Nite has kept Family Matters in tact even though they do talk over some of it.
and don't get me started on that Family Foreman crap. :rolleyes:
I did not see it that much on ABC family, only sometimes when I was home from work. But watching it now on N@N it looks choppy at times. They will play the "going to commercial" music and it doesn't, it goes to the next scene, So in the next scene, it's cut short because they're putting commercials in odd places. I understand that they have to air more or longer commercials but it's annoying at times. Thank goodness for DVR's
And I totally agree Family Forman is so fake that it's pathetic
Furienna 08-04-2008, 03:33 PM I can understand that they're affraid of showing the N-word, but does that mean the whole scene is removed? That's just wrong...
I feel so sorry for you for having all these edits. :(
Brent88 08-04-2008, 03:43 PM I can understand that they're affraid of showing the N-word, but does that mean the whole scene is removed? That's just wrong...
I feel so sorry for you for having all these edits. :(
It's not the entire scene, we see the part where she finds the note(about going back to Africa) and reads it and then Steve sees it and reacts. It's cut before she closes the locker door though to reveal the word.
Lorimar Television 08-04-2008, 06:23 PM Yeah, its just that 3 second scene. And I understand why they wouldnt want to show it.
Furienna 08-04-2008, 07:02 PM Ah, so they cut the scene short, but they don't remove the whole scene, like when Laura reads the note saying "If you want black history, go back to Africa"?
Lorimar Television 08-06-2008, 01:06 AM Yup, they play all the scene except for the very end
Furienna 08-06-2008, 04:05 PM Okay, fair enough. But I still rather think they should have blurred the n word out, if they didn't have the guts to show it, than edit out any running time of the episode.
Lorimar Television 08-07-2008, 05:21 PM Well then shed be lookin at a blank locker. Anyway ets get back on topic.
Brent88 08-07-2008, 06:27 PM I had a copy from TBS of "Paradise Bluff" from about 10 years ago and just did a rough comparision. It ran roughly 30 seconds longer on TBS but despite that N@N had a scene TBS did NOT have(along with a small cut).
Nick-at-Nite cuts a little of Laura's "Hiya Scott" scene but it's nothing major. The big thing is TBS did not have the scene N@N had near the end where Harriette talks to Mother Winslow about Carl. TBS only has Carl talking to her. There had to be something else Nick-at-Nite cut but it didn't leap out of me.
I also have "The Looney Bin", "Beta Chi Guy", "Sink or Swim", and "Par For the Course" from TBS which I'll be checking out soon.
Furienna 08-07-2008, 09:40 PM Well then shed be lookin at a blank locker.
It still would have been better than shortening the scene.
Brent88 08-10-2008, 03:53 AM Interesting, Nick-at-Nite didn't shrink the credits for 3 of the 4 episodes tonight from 2-4(although they did for 2 of them which first aired at Midnight).
They did for "The Gun" which had the generic theme of the later seasons, the other 3 had scenes.
Lorimar Television 08-10-2008, 12:53 PM They usually dont shrink scenes on eps after 2 am. I was so dissapointed they shrank the end theme. I REALLY WANT TO HEAR IT!!!!!! :(
Brent88 08-10-2008, 04:21 PM They usually dont shrink scenes on eps after 2 am. I was so dissapointed they shrank the end theme. I REALLY WANT TO HEAR IT!!!!!! :(
They had been shrinking the credits for all the 2-4 episodes of FM on Saturday Nights before this week.
What's weird is that the only episode at 8:30(when they don't shrink the credits) that had that theme so far was also shrunk(it's the only episode at 8:30 they've done that). I have a copy of it from TBS but it would be nice to hear it(I'm gonna have to buy a new mic to record the sound to put on YouTube).
BTW I found a huge torrent file with pretty much every single episode of the series. I'm going to download a few at a time(it appears to be ABC Family and some local station's copies), and do some more comparing to Nick-at-Nite's editing. I'm starting with episodes N@N skipped.
Lorimar Television 08-11-2008, 01:28 AM Cool, so will you be able to put the end theme up?
Lorimar Television 12-24-2008, 04:03 PM Lol to bump this thread! BET showed a bunch of scenes ABC Family cut out in Laura's First Date. They cut the part where Laura asked Rachel how old she was when she 1st started dating, and a part where Eddie came into Leroy's and told Laura Urkel was looking for her, and Penny was flirting with Eddie.
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