Loopie63
06-11-2008, 07:48 PM
Don't get me wrong, I loved the show. But Jack was awful whimpy.
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View Full Version : Jack seemed gay to me. Loopie63 06-11-2008, 07:48 PM Don't get me wrong, I loved the show. But Jack was awful whimpy. Zoneboy 06-11-2008, 08:56 PM Don't get me wrong, I loved the show. But Jack was awful whimpy. Being wimpy doesn't make one gay. Barney Fife was one of the wimpiest characters ever and I've never heard anyone refer to him as being gay. Jude The Obscure 06-11-2008, 09:45 PM OK, there is nothing to indicate to me that Jack was gay. And if he was, so what? Pavan 06-11-2008, 11:31 PM He had different girlfriends in almost every episode, so how is that gay? Mr. Television 06-12-2008, 12:16 AM None of the men on that show were masculine. Larry, Roper and Furley were wimps too. That's why they were funny. :lol: HuntingtonM15 06-12-2008, 12:30 AM Don't get me wrong, I loved the show. But Jack was awful whimpy. Well, yeah, he was a bit effeminate at times but that didn't make him gay. robyrob 06-12-2008, 12:44 AM Don't get me wrong, I loved the show. But Jack was awful whimpy. i don't know if you ever watched the show, but the whole point was that he was ACTING gay ON PURPOSE to fool the landlords into letting him share an apartment with two girls. MikeLutton 06-12-2008, 03:07 AM people take charactors n tv so seriousley if u did not see it from the start must not know what u talking about. jack acting kind whimpy was his charactor it what made him funny like furley n roper and course larry if they didnt show be boring n not as funny n classic as we know it today. hope that came out ok just trying give my opinoin Loopie63 06-12-2008, 09:30 AM To me he had feminine manurisms. I don't know of any women out there including me that would find that sexy. Loopie63 06-12-2008, 09:31 AM i don't know if you ever watched the show, but the whole point was that he was ACTING gay ON PURPOSE to fool the landlords into letting him share an apartment with two girls. yes I know he was to act gay when the ropers and furley were around. Jude The Obscure 06-12-2008, 09:36 AM What feminine mannerisms? And a guy is not to ever suppose to show a sensitive side? I'm not trying to be argumentative......just trying to understand what reasons you say this. Loopie63 06-12-2008, 10:34 AM A sensitive side and feminine manurisms are 2 entirely different things. TVFactFan 06-12-2008, 10:55 AM The only gay thing I remember Jack doing is Flirting with one of the girls BOYFRIENDS when he came to the house and jack said-"Are these for me? you never joke around like that with a straight man Jude The Obscure 06-12-2008, 10:51 PM A sensitive side and feminine manurisms are 2 entirely different things. but you did not answer me--what feminine mannerisms? I Love John Ritter 06-13-2008, 12:44 AM None of the men on that show were masculine. Larry, Roper and Furley were wimps too. That's why they were funny. :lol: Exactly. That was right on the nose. Chocolate Moose 06-13-2008, 12:38 PM Yeah..he didn’t exactly ooze testerone, I’ll grant you that. Loopie63 06-13-2008, 02:35 PM Yeah..he didn’t exactly ooze testerone, I’ll grant you that. Thank You. vtunie 06-13-2008, 04:38 PM Don't get me wrong, I loved the show. But Jack was awful whimpy. Right. One more for the gays. Wrong. All wrong. Not gay. Wimpy, yes. Sensitive -- at times. Otherwise the typical mix of straight-man insecurities. Reflected the hidden fear of all straight guys that someone, somewhere, sometime, might, just might, think they're not manly enough. So if you think he's gay -- it just shows what you're really worried about. No offence. :) :) :) . Janice 06-13-2008, 05:08 PM Jack didn't seem gay to me, too much of a ladies man. He was wimpy though, and the show even played that up when he had to fake being tough with another guy. Jack wasn't a tough guy, that's all. He was even a scaredy cat sometimes, lol. Loopie63 06-13-2008, 05:30 PM Right. One more for the gays. Wrong. All wrong. Not gay. Wimpy, yes. Sensitive -- at times. Otherwise the typical mix of straight-man insecurities. Reflected the hidden fear of all straight guys that someone, somewhere, sometime, might, just might, think they're not manly enough. So if you think he's gay -- it just shows what you're really worried about. No offence. :) :) :) . Well I'm not quite sure what you meant. I'm a straight female. I'm not homophobic. I just say he acted like some gay men I know.:lol: Pavan 06-13-2008, 05:33 PM Jack was supposed to be a likeable funny guy. Not a mean tough type of guy like Dan Fiedling. It doesn't make you gay if he is not a tough guy. Loopie63 06-13-2008, 05:37 PM I'm not talking about being sensitive. I'm saying he has all the moves except the lisp. TVFactFan 06-13-2008, 07:09 PM My mom always felt the Jack character was gay-lol Jude The Obscure 06-13-2008, 07:17 PM I gotta admit one thing--Jack was more talk than action. When it came time for him to be with Vicky in that way.....he was all nervous and actually wanted to put off bed time. Now does someone who was a supposed ladies man really be that nervous? He acted like a virgin :lol: Brian Damage 06-13-2008, 07:26 PM Jack was very fruity and very light on his feet. :lol: Loopie63 06-13-2008, 07:29 PM :lol: :lol: :lol: Ireneparalegal 06-14-2008, 10:39 PM Don't get me wrong, I loved the show. But Jack was awful whimpy. Then CLIFF HUXTABLE is gay too. Not to mention all the guys on The Cosby Show. What a bunch of wimps. :lol: Janice 06-15-2008, 03:05 PM Then CLIFF HUXTABLE is gay too. Not to mention all the guys on The Cosby Show. What a bunch of wimps. :lol: I don't know about that, Irene. I think very few men, if any, could intimidate Cliff. He was the one who was doing the intimidating. Now Elvin, he was a different story, lol. Theo was a kid, although some men are never intimidated by anyone or anything, even as kids or teens. My father and my husband, just to name two. Jack's character was written as a guy who wasn't tough, but no way was he gay. His personality and lack of courage made for some funny storylines. There were times he rose to the occasion though and told some men off. Jude The Obscure 06-15-2008, 03:11 PM Well, we do know one thing--The Cowardly Lion in the 1939 classic Wizard of Oz--that was one flaming dude!!! :lol: Ireneparalegal 06-15-2008, 03:15 PM I don't know about that, Irene. I think very few men, if any, could intimidate Cliff. He was the one who was intimidating. Now Elvin, he's a different story, lol. Theo was a kid, although some men are never intimidated by anyone or anything, even as kids or teens. My father and my husband, just to name two. Jack's character was written as a guy who wasn't tough, but no way was he gay. His personality and lack of courage made for some funny storylines. There were times he rose to the occasion though and told some men off. Elvin most definitely had issues. Look up wimp in the dictionary and there is his face. :lol: I was only being sarcastic because it appears the original poster defines a man who is not tough or appears to be wimpy as being gay. Now, you know that is far from the truth. Which is why I used the Cosby Show men as a comparitive example. Not all men will ooze toughness, strength by way of muscles or fighting, being a John Wayne type of man, etc. Jack showed compassion, he was sensitive and he knew how to treat women. Jack showed a few skanks the door and he could admit his wrong-doings. Jack may not have been the type of guy who would be intimidating, but he could hold his own if needed to. Jack didn't go looking for trouble. I found Jack to be a rather sexy and appealing man. Toughness in a man sometimes covers up for insecurity. ;) Jude The Obscure 06-15-2008, 03:20 PM Loopie also said that Jack had feminine mannerisms--I'm still waiting to hear what those are. Like I said, I'm not being a fight looker, just curious as to what these qualities are. There are also segments of the gay population that are as far from the limp wristed swishy stereotype that most people in the past associated with being gay. Janice 06-15-2008, 03:23 PM Elvin most definitely had issues. Look up wimp in the dictionary and there is his face. :lol: I was only being sarcastic because it appears the original poster defines a man who is not tough or appears to be wimpy as being gay. Now, you know that is far from the truth. Which is why I used the Cosby Show men as a comparitive example. Not all men will ooze toughness, strength by way of muscles or fighting, being a John Wayne type of man, etc. Jack showed compassion, he was sensitive and he knew how to treat women. Jack showed a few skanks the door and he could admit his wrong-doings. Jack may not have been the type of guy who would be intimidating, but he could hold his own if needed to. Jack didn't go looking for trouble. I found Jack to be a rather sexy and appealing man. Toughness in a man sometimes covers up for insecurity. ;) I know Jack's character was craftfully written, and done well. The point is though that he did act like a wimp at times, while other men would never act that way. It doesn't make them better men, just different personalities. And as I pointed out in my last post, Jack often rose to the occasion and showed a few people the door by telling them off. It didn't happen often, but it happened. Men are different, and some just have more courage than others. There isn't a man or situation that exists that would frighten my Dad or husband (barring holdups, accidents, etc.). And I made a mistake on my last post. One person could put the fear of God into Cliff Huxtable, and that was his wife, Claire. :lol: Ireneparalegal 06-15-2008, 03:25 PM And I made a mistake on my last post. One person could put the fear of God into Cliff Huxtable, and that was his wife, Claire. :lol: For sure!!!!! :rofl: Jude...:brent your cowardly lion comment. :lol: Jude The Obscure 06-15-2008, 03:33 PM oh did you ever watch "The Slipper and The Rose: The Story of Cinderella"? The prince's cousin is one far-out swishy fop! Yet, we are supposed to believe he is lusting after all these women at the ball! :lol: Ireneparalegal 06-15-2008, 03:36 PM oh did you ever watch "The Slipper and The Rose: The Story of Cinderella"? The prince's cousin is one far-out swishy fop! Yet, we are supposed to believe he is lusting after all these women at the ball! :lol: :brent I have not seen that version of Cinderella. Thanx for the laughs, I really need them. :D Jack had so many girlfriends on TC. So obviously he had it going on. ;) And what feminine mannerisms did Jack exhibit? I would like to know as well. Pavan 06-15-2008, 05:57 PM What is more funnier Jack as a macho man or the wimpy type? Of course the wimpy type bring in more laughs...and this WAS a sitcom. But that is still not gay. TVFactFan 06-15-2008, 06:31 PM What is more funnier Jack as a macho man or the wimpy type? Of course the wimpy type bring in more laughs...and this WAS a sitcom. But that is still not gay. The only gay thing he did was flirt with Phillip when he brung Janet Flowers-lol Loopie63 06-15-2008, 07:23 PM jude86 I guess there is no way you'll no what I'm talking about. Does anyone else understand what I mean? Lets say we just got a new employee at the workplace and it was him and then I see his manurisms (the way he acts on the show). His posture, his walk, the way he speaks.....etc......should I go on? I would think he was gay. :lol: Ireneparalegal 06-15-2008, 08:12 PM jude86 I guess there is no way you'll no what I'm talking about. Does anyone else understand what I mean? Lets say we just got a new employee at the workplace and it was him and then I see his manurisms (the way he acts on the show). His posture, his walk, the way he speaks.....etc......should I go on? I would think he was gay. :lol: Of course you would, because you believe in the stereotype that all men who are wimpy or have certain mannerisms scream, I AM GAY. Mr. Television 06-15-2008, 09:02 PM Of course you would, because you believe in the stereotype that all men who are wimpy or have certain mannerisms scream, I AM GAY. She should watch that episode of All in the Family where Archie was making fun of Mike's friend because he thought he was gay. It turns out he was straight and Archie's friend who was big and macho turned out to be gay. A great episode. People just shouldn't jump to conclusions about other people like that because most of the time they are wrong. Loopie63 06-16-2008, 11:19 AM There are a few here that know what I'm talking about. And then there are some who never will. All I can say is that Jack seemed like a gay man to me. :lol Jude The Obscure 06-16-2008, 11:36 AM jude86 I guess there is no way you'll no what I'm talking about. Does anyone else understand what I mean? Lets say we just got a new employee at the workplace and it was him and then I see his manurisms (the way he acts on the show). His posture, his walk, the way he speaks.....etc......should I go on? I would think he was gay. :lol: Let's get some things straight, Loopie63,--how does Jack's posture, walk, his manner of speech seem feminine to you? If you would just take the time to explain what you mean and not assume that the rest of us are clueless when it comes to gay things. FTR, I have worked with plenty of gay people--male and female and they all have different personalities and aspects. Very few fit the typical gay stereotype. Loopie63 06-16-2008, 11:55 AM His posture, his stance, many things. Since you can't see me I'm explaining in writing what I mean. But for some reason you don't get it. :rolleyes: Jaggerlee 06-16-2008, 12:25 PM I have to say that growing up my sisters would say that he is a tad fruity. My wife watches the reruns and says the same thing. But he was funny and thats all that matters. Loopie63 06-16-2008, 03:17 PM Like I said, I like the show. And he was funny. Jude The Obscure 06-16-2008, 03:59 PM I tell you what I don't get--you see Jack as gay. I don't. There we go.....end of story.....and we'll move on :) Ireneparalegal 06-16-2008, 04:48 PM She should watch that episode of All in the Family where Archie was making fun of Mike's friend because he thought he was gay. It turns out he was straight and Archie's friend who was big and macho turned out to be gay. A great episode. People just shouldn't jump to conclusions about other people like that because most of the time they are wrong. I remember that episode very well. :lol: Great episode. And you are right, no one should jump to conclusions. TC was clear in stating Jack was a straight man. Kudos to John Ritter for playing a part so well. I wonder if Loopie can tell by the way people post on this board if they are gay or not? :lol: Jaggerlee 06-16-2008, 05:53 PM You can't really fault the poster. A lot of people thought he was fruity. Mr. Television 06-16-2008, 06:04 PM You can't really fault the poster. A lot of people thought he was fruity. I don't think there were a lot of people. I was in junior high and high school when this show aired and all the kids loved it. Nobody thought Jack was fruity. They all thought he was lucky for living with 2 sexy girls. :lol: Ireneparalegal 06-16-2008, 06:48 PM I don't think there were a lot of people. I was in junior high and high school when this show aired and all the kids loved it. Nobody thought Jack was fruity. They all thought he was lucky for living with 2 sexy girls. :lol: Mr. Furley, now HE was fruity and wimpy. :lol: Jack was BLESSED to live with those two ladies. ;) Jaggerlee 06-16-2008, 06:56 PM I don't think there were a lot of people. I was in junior high and high school when this show aired and all the kids loved it. Nobody thought Jack was fruity. They all thought he was lucky for living with 2 sexy girls. :lol: I just finished Highschool when it started airing. WE ALL THOUGHT JACK WAS A LITTLE FRUITY. We always said we should show Jack what to do with a Woman.:lol: Ireneparalegal 06-16-2008, 06:58 PM We always said we should show Jack what to do with a Woman.:lol: I don't get that. I mean, Jack knew what to do, he had a different girlfriend almost every episode. :lol: He was not like Mr. Furley who didn't know what to do when he was around a woman. :crazy: Loopie63 06-16-2008, 07:02 PM I just finished Highschool when it started airing. WE ALL THOUGHT JACK WAS A LITTLE FRUITY. We always said we should show Jack what to do with a Woman.:lol: :lol: Mr. Television 06-16-2008, 07:21 PM I don't get that. I mean, Jack knew what to do, he had a different girlfriend almost every episode. :lol: He was not like Mr. Furley who didn't know what to do when he was around a woman. :crazy: I don't get it either. The guy went out with a diferent girl every night. I couldn't keep track of all the women he went out with. He was a swinger. :lol: Furley's the one who was usually alone...of course he thought he was way macho. :lol: Anyway its a comedy...not a drama. Jack was supposed to be funny. If he played it straight ( no pun intended lol) I don't think the show would have been a big hit. Ireneparalegal 06-16-2008, 07:22 PM I don't get it either. The guy went out with a diferent girl every night. I couldn't keep track of all the women he went out with. He was a swinger. :lol: Furley's the one who was usually alone...of course he thought he was way macho. :lol: :thumbsup: Jaggerlee 06-17-2008, 01:39 PM He was fruity. Enough said. Ireneparalegal 06-17-2008, 01:43 PM Enough said? Says who? :lol: We all have opinions, just like you. Jaggerlee 06-17-2008, 02:10 PM :p :lol: Céline 06-23-2008, 04:27 PM Why is wimp means gay for some people?It's not the same thing at all.But yes,Jack behaves like a wimp sometimes but,a very cute one ;) LoveMrsG 07-23-2008, 12:21 PM Elvin most definitely had issues. Look up wimp in the dictionary and there is his face. :lol: I was only being sarcastic because it appears the original poster defines a man who is not tough or appears to be wimpy as being gay. Now, you know that is far from the truth. Which is why I used the Cosby Show men as a comparitive example. Not all men will ooze toughness, strength by way of muscles or fighting, being a John Wayne type of man, etc. Jack showed compassion, he was sensitive and he knew how to treat women. Jack showed a few skanks the door and he could admit his wrong-doings. Jack may not have been the type of guy who would be intimidating, but he could hold his own if needed to. Jack didn't go looking for trouble. I found Jack to be a rather sexy and appealing man. Toughness in a man sometimes covers up for insecurity. ;) THANK YOU, IRENE!!!! :) gidgetgrape 07-24-2008, 02:25 PM I always thought the writers made Jack intentionally unthreatening. Wouldn't two girls be a little afraid of having an overly, macho man move in with them? Especially at first when he was a stranger and they didn't know anything about his background or intentions. I think Jack's characteristics also helped the viewers at home who were uncomfortable with single men and women living together accept the show. A long time ago, I read that most girls first crushes are on guys with positive feminine qualities. Janice 07-24-2008, 04:11 PM Jack was not gay on the show. The character of Jack Tripper was written as a straight man. That's a fact. That's not open for interpretation, as there was no hidden secret waiting for viewers. This wasn't, "Who Shot JR?", and it's not a soap opera. What is open for discussion are people's opinions as to whether the Jack Tripper character acted wimpy. I think he did at times, when it was needed to advance the storyline and the humor. He wasn't a macho type guy. I don't think that type of character would have worked. |