View Full Version : Great Good Times relevancy to 2008 article


MacLeaper
06-08-2008, 12:10 AM
Hey Good Times fans! I found this great article on MSN taking a look back at the Evanses family and how modern TV shows (and society in general) could learn from Good Times! (Mind there's a bit of foul language- but it's a very good article on the show.)
So check out this article tonight because it is definitely dy-no-mite!:)
http://www.theroot.com/id/46660?GT1=38002

Ireneparalegal
06-08-2008, 12:14 AM
Excellent!!!!!! :thumbsup: thank you for sharing this with us fans.

Zoneboy
06-08-2008, 12:20 AM
The page cannot be displayed. :( Damn, I hate when that happens. :mad:

Jude The Obscure
06-08-2008, 12:25 AM
Very well thought out! I was thinking the other day that TV has not done another poor family/working class sitcom since GT. At least, none that I recall. And whether we want to admit it or not, GT is still revelant today, maybe that's why it still gets played in reruns--because it doesn't feel dated in what it talks about. Shoot, listen to the Evans' talk about high gas prices, high food prices, the job situation and you swear they are living in 2008! :lol:

TVFactFan
06-08-2008, 06:08 PM
Very well thought out! I was thinking the other day that TV has not done another poor family/working class sitcom since GT. At least, none that I recall. And whether we want to admit it or not, GT is still revelant today, maybe that's why it still gets played in reruns--because it doesn't feel dated in what it talks about. Shoot, listen to the Evans' talk about high gas prices, high food prices, the job situation and you swear they are living in 2008! :lol:


Wasn't Roseanne considered a poor family? I can't think of no other tv family in similar financial situations

Brieannas21
06-08-2008, 06:27 PM
Wasn't Roseanne considered a poor family? I can't think of no other tv family in similar financial situations


No, I think Roseanne would be classified as working middle class.

TVFactFan
06-08-2008, 06:30 PM
I don't think it's no need to have another struggling TV Family on TV, that was for that time and it would be a obvious RIPOFF of Good Times-lol


Working Middle Class is fine

Brieannas21
06-08-2008, 06:36 PM
I don't think it's no need to have another struggling TV Family on TV, that was for that time and it would be a obvious RIPOFF of Good Times-lol


Working Middle Class is fine


I told my mom the other night that they had some great Television back in the 70's. Now a days tv suck, they don't deal with real issues the way they did back in the day.

TVFactFan
06-08-2008, 06:44 PM
I told my mom the other night that they had some great Television back in the 70's. Now a days tv suck, they don't deal with real issues the way they did back in the day.


I agree with you and I have the VIDEO VAULT in my living room to prove it-lol

catlover79
06-09-2008, 01:56 PM
Awesome article! Thank you for sharing it with us.

Jude The Obscure
06-11-2008, 10:05 AM
Oh, so poor families should never be represented again on TV, Sol?
nice attitude......

TVFactFan
06-11-2008, 06:54 PM
Oh, so poor families should never be represented again on TV, Sol?
nice attitude......


It has already been done so why would it need to be seen again on TV?? You know a show like that would be compared to Good Times UNLESS it was a DRAMA

Jude The Obscure
06-12-2008, 10:01 PM
There was already one. A drama called "South Central", aired on Fox.

Also by your viewpoint, there is no need for rich families to be portrayed ever again or upper class working families or middleclass families.......it's all be done.

catlover79
06-24-2008, 02:07 PM
There was already one. A drama called "South Central", aired on Fox.

Also by your viewpoint, there is no need for rich families to be portrayed ever again or upper class working families or middleclass families.......it's all be done.
I never watched South Central, but I remember it was on around 1994 and only lasted a few weeks. Who was in it?

Brieannas21
06-24-2008, 02:33 PM
There was already one. A drama called "South Central", aired on Fox.

Also by your viewpoint, there is no need for rich families to be portrayed ever again or upper class working families or middleclass families.......it's all be done.


That was a good show, too bad it didn't last long.

MacLeaper
06-24-2008, 03:02 PM
Hmm- I love Good Times and think it's a great show. But I don't think it's fair to say that it's the only gold standard for "poor families" shows. Yes, I know other shows might be compared to that, but there's room on the market for similar products. (And networks do that kind of thing all the time- just look at NBC's Diff'rent Strokes and ABC's Webster.- But I watch them both.;) )
But even so, I don't think there's ever been a show quite like Good Times. Though I would agree that Roseanne and Marrried...with Children both featured working class, blue collar families.
The closest comparison I can think of offhand is a '90s show called Roc. I don't remember a lot of it, but I do recall that Roc was a garbageman. I'm thinking that family didn't have a whole lot of money. (And it's one of the only garbagemen I can think of on TV- the only other close comparison I can think of is Ed Norton, on The Honeymooners, who a sewer worker.)
Well, for that matter, Ralph Kramden was a bus driver. I would think The Honeymooners might also qualify for a fairly poor white family on TV.
Of course, I think we might also want to get away some from the stereotype that it's always these black families that are dirt poor and living in the "ghetto". I mean, sure there's plenty of poor black families. There's plenty of poor Latino families too, as well as Asian and white families.
I think that's probably why Bill Cosby had The Cosby Show as pretty much the polar opposite of Good Times- with Cliff Huxtable as a doctor and Claire as a lawyer. But that was also one of the first shows that featured a black family to show them being prominent, college educated people with good jobs. So it was sort of breaking away from the stereotype in itself. (And I don't think there had been many shows to focus on a black family before it other than Good Times. I mean, yeah- Benson comes to mind, but that was just Robert Guillame. Great show- but not quite the family concept there.
Anyway, I would certainly agree with the article that there's been very little on current TV (if anything) that can match up with the quality of a show like Good Times. And if someone's thinking of My Wife and Kids or something along those lines, you must be jiving.:lol:

Ireneparalegal
06-24-2008, 03:17 PM
There has been no other show like GT. It is as if any concept of a new show would be compared to GT (rightly so). I would love to see a show like GT, whether it is a black family or a hispanic family where there are hard times, financial issues, educational topics (without all the public service announcements) again on television. ROSEANNE proved that a blue collar family can be funny, serious and capture the attention of many viewers who can identify with a family who doesn't have the best of everything and kids who don't create drama. If it weren't for Lisa Bonet's character on Cosby Show, that show would have just been another sugar-coated family sitcom like FULL HOUSE. :rolleyes:

MacLeaper
06-24-2008, 03:27 PM
Yeah, but I like The Cosby Show and Full House- and Good Times. Hey, a little sugar is good for you every once in a while.;)

Ireneparalegal
06-24-2008, 03:28 PM
Yeah, but I like The Cosby Show and Full House- and Good Times. Hey, a little sugar is good for you every once in a while.;)
FULL HOUSE could put anyone in a sugar coma. :crazy: :lol:

catlover79
06-25-2008, 01:53 PM
FULL HOUSE could put anyone in a sugar coma. :crazy: :lol:
I always said someone should slap a saccharine warning at the beginning of each Full House episode. I grew up watching it, but watching the reruns is downright embarrassing now. :o :lol:

studd911
06-29-2008, 10:05 AM
alderman davis was like a ghetto richard nixion

Jude The Obscure
06-29-2008, 10:13 AM
I never watched South Central, but I remember it was on around 1994 and only lasted a few weeks. Who was in it?


From Wikipedia:
South Central was a short-lived comedy-drama that aired on the Fox network from April 5, 1994 to June 4, 1994. It was cancelled midway through its first season, for a total of 10 episodes. The sitcom was set in South Central Los Angeles, and dealt with everyday life in Los Angeles. Many notable actors appeared in this series, including Jennifer López, Larenz Tate, Shar Jackson, and Maia Campbell.

South Central was very popular among critics for what was perceived as a realistic portrayal of urban life. The show dealt with issues such as gang violence, drugs, dating, sex, school, and employment. Many considered it to be a 90's version of Good Times.

The show aired on Tuesday evenings following Roc. Due to the decline in ratings of the entire night of programming, Fox cancelled all the shows on the night and created the Tuesday Night movie. Several black leaders criticized the network for not allowing the show to have a full season and a good timeslot to prove itself.


[edit] Cast
Tina Lifford — Joan Mosely
Larenz Tate — Andre Mosely
Tasha Scott — Tasha Mosely
Keith Mbulo — Deion
Also starring

Lamont Bentley — Rashad
Paula Kelly — Sweets
Ken Page — Dr. Ray McHenry
Recurring cast:

Michael Beach - Isaiah
Earl Billings — Mayo Bonner
Maia Campbell — Nicole
Shar Jackson — Janelle
Jennifer López — Lucille
Clifton Powell — Bobby Deavers

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 12:58 PM
From Wikipedia:
South Central was a short-lived comedy-drama that aired on the Fox network from April 5, 1994 to June 4, 1994. It was cancelled midway through its first season, for a total of 10 episodes. The sitcom was set in South Central Los Angeles, and dealt with everyday life in Los Angeles. Many notable actors appeared in this series, including Jennifer López, Larenz Tate, Shar Jackson, and Maia Campbell.

South Central was very popular among critics for what was perceived as a realistic portrayal of urban life. The show dealt with issues such as gang violence, drugs, dating, sex, school, and employment. Many considered it to be a 90's version of Good Times.

The show aired on Tuesday evenings following Roc. Due to the decline in ratings of the entire night of programming, Fox cancelled all the shows on the night and created the Tuesday Night movie. Several black leaders criticized the network for not allowing the show to have a full season and a good timeslot to prove itself.


[edit] Cast
Tina Lifford — Joan Mosely
Larenz Tate — Andre Mosely
Tasha Scott — Tasha Mosely
Keith Mbulo — Deion
Also starring

Lamont Bentley — Rashad
Paula Kelly — Sweets
Ken Page — Dr. Ray McHenry
Recurring cast:

Michael Beach - Isaiah
Earl Billings — Mayo Bonner
Maia Campbell — Nicole
Shar Jackson — Janelle
Jennifer López — Lucille
Clifton Powell — Bobby Deavers



I was in my Freshman in College at the time and never had a opportunity to see it

Ireneparalegal
06-29-2008, 02:43 PM
I always said someone should slap a saccharine warning at the beginning of each Full House episode. I grew up watching it, but watching the reruns is downright embarrassing now. :o :lol:
Indeed. I can't believe I watched that show. :o :eek: puke:

catlover79
06-29-2008, 04:53 PM
Indeed. I can't believe I watched that show. :o :eek: puke:
You said it, sister!!

Jude The Obscure
06-29-2008, 06:00 PM
Same here, regarding FH.......watched in primetime and in the first cycle of syndication. I come across it now and wow------The Bradys look like they were on acid, compared to the sugary sweetness of FH!!!!! :lol:

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 06:07 PM
From Wikipedia:
South Central was a short-lived comedy-drama that aired on the Fox network from April 5, 1994 to June 4, 1994. It was cancelled midway through its first season, for a total of 10 episodes. The sitcom was set in South Central Los Angeles, and dealt with everyday life in Los Angeles. Many notable actors appeared in this series, including Jennifer López, Larenz Tate, Shar Jackson, and Maia Campbell.

South Central was very popular among critics for what was perceived as a realistic portrayal of urban life. The show dealt with issues such as gang violence, drugs, dating, sex, school, and employment. Many considered it to be a 90's version of Good Times.

The show aired on Tuesday evenings following Roc. Due to the decline in ratings of the entire night of programming, Fox cancelled all the shows on the night and created the Tuesday Night movie. Several black leaders criticized the network for not allowing the show to have a full season and a good timeslot to prove itself.


[edit] Cast
Tina Lifford — Joan Mosely
Larenz Tate — Andre Mosely
Tasha Scott — Tasha Mosely
Keith Mbulo — Deion
Also starring

Lamont Bentley — Rashad
Paula Kelly — Sweets
Ken Page — Dr. Ray McHenry
Recurring cast:

Michael Beach - Isaiah
Earl Billings — Mayo Bonner
Maia Campbell — Nicole
Shar Jackson — Janelle
Jennifer López — Lucille
Clifton Powell — Bobby Deavers

I'm surprised that TVOne hasn't ran atleast one or two episodes of it

Mr. Television
06-29-2008, 06:10 PM
From Wikipedia:
South Central was a short-lived comedy-drama that aired on the Fox network from April 5, 1994 to June 4, 1994. It was cancelled midway through its first season, for a total of 10 episodes. The sitcom was set in South Central Los Angeles, and dealt with everyday life in Los Angeles. Many notable actors appeared in this series, including Jennifer López, Larenz Tate, Shar Jackson, and Maia Campbell.

South Central was very popular among critics for what was perceived as a realistic portrayal of urban life. The show dealt with issues such as gang violence, drugs, dating, sex, school, and employment. Many considered it to be a 90's version of Good Times.

The show aired on Tuesday evenings following Roc. Due to the decline in ratings of the entire night of programming, Fox cancelled all the shows on the night and created the Tuesday Night movie. Several black leaders criticized the network for not allowing the show to have a full season and a good timeslot to prove itself.


[edit] Cast
Tina Lifford — Joan Mosely
Larenz Tate — Andre Mosely
Tasha Scott — Tasha Mosely
Keith Mbulo — Deion
Also starring

Lamont Bentley — Rashad
Paula Kelly — Sweets
Ken Page — Dr. Ray McHenry
Recurring cast:

Michael Beach - Isaiah
Earl Billings — Mayo Bonner
Maia Campbell — Nicole
Shar Jackson — Janelle
Jennifer López — Lucille
Clifton Powell — Bobby Deavers
I saw that show. I thought it was pretty good.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 06:17 PM
I'm surprised that TVOne hasn't ran atleast one or two episodes of it


Yeah especially since it's right up there alley-lol

Ireneparalegal
06-29-2008, 06:25 PM
You would think with J-Lo being a part of it, they would use that as a springboard for airing the show..."See J-lo before she became LA LOPEZ." :lol:

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 06:32 PM
Yeah especially since it's right up there alley-lol


I remember years back Showtime use to air some TV shows on Sunday and Saturday mornings, I think they should go back to doing that. South Central language was kinda on the bad side, it would fit well on Showtime

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 07:12 PM
I remember years back Showtime use to air some TV shows on Sunday and Saturday mornings, I think they should go back to doing that. South Central language was kinda on the bad side, it would fit well on Showtime


It was stated that it was too depressing to appeal to a mass audience

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 07:43 PM
It was stated that it was too depressing to appeal to a mass audience


I don't think it was too depressing, I think that it was too out there, I don't think that people were ready for it. People just didn't give the show a chance.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 07:46 PM
I don't think it was too depressing, I think that it was too out there, I don't think that people were ready for it. People just didn't give the show a chance.


I read it was a campaign t keep it on the air but was unsuccessful

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 07:55 PM
I read it was a campaign t keep it on the air but was unsuccessful


Yeah that's the same with just about any other TV show that networks don't want around anymore. I just remember watching an episode about someone having a gun or and then the next week I couldn't find the show at all. I also remember the show making the News and people were talking about the language and gang violence and whatnot.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 07:59 PM
Yeah that's the same with just about any other TV show that networks don't want around anymore. I just remember watching an episode about someone having a gun or and then the next week I couldn't find the show at all. I also remember the show making the News and people were talking about the language and gang violence and whatnot.


And it wasn't any SitcomsOnline back then for you to find out if it was cancelled-lol

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 08:25 PM
And it wasn't any SitcomsOnline back then for you to find out if it was cancelled-lol


Nope, didn't even have a computer back then let alone internet LOL.

Back then I feel as if black shows weren't given that big of a chance. There were many shows back then that didn't make it to a 2nd season.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 08:32 PM
Nope, didn't even have a computer back then let alone internet LOL.

Back then I feel as if black shows weren't given that big of a chance. There were many shows back then that didn't make it to a 2nd season.


Me and the Boys with Steve Harvey-1994 was one

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 09:23 PM
Me and the Boys with Steve Harvey-1994 was one

For me it would be Thea, Where I Live, Out all Night and there was another show and I can't think of the name of it, but it did have some white people in the cast.

catlover79
06-29-2008, 09:30 PM
Me and the Boys with Steve Harvey-1994 was one
Me & The Boys - I LOVED that show!! The episode I enjoyed the most was when Steve had his 20th high school reunion and brought his oldest son along to fill in the missing spot in his old singing group. :rofl:

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 09:32 PM
For me it would be Thea, Where I Live, Out all Night and there was another show and I can't think of the name of it, but it did have some white people in the cast.


Where I live had Flex it in and the Jamican guy from Martin. Bill Cosby persuaded ABC to give it another chance and they did but the show couldn't compete with Dr. Quinn Medicine Women

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 09:40 PM
Where I live had Flex it in and the Jamican guy from Martin. Bill Cosby persuaded ABC to give it another chance and they did but the show couldn't compete with Dr. Quinn Medicine Women


The time slot sucked and it played a bit part I think, It came on Saturdays for goodness sake. How many people are at home on a Saturday night watching TV? They should have put it on like on Tuesday before or after Roseanne.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 09:42 PM
The time slot sucked and it played a bit part I think, It came on Saturdays for goodness sake. How many people are at home on a Saturday night watching TV? They should have put it on like on Tuesday before or after Roseanne.


Well it must have been a black show that didn't appeal to ALL RACES. If it was targeted for only black people to laugh then it wasn't going to last long

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 09:49 PM
Well it must have been a black show that didn't appeal to ALL RACES. If it was targeted for only black people to laugh then it wasn't going to last long


It came on Saturdays nights, where you home watching TV on Satuday night back in '93?? The only time that I would catch it was if I didn't go anywhere for the weekend. That's how I remember it.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 09:53 PM
It came on Saturdays nights, where you home watching TV on Satuday night back in '93?? The only time that I would catch it was if I didn't go anywhere for the weekend. That's how I remember it.


I was in College so I didn't get a chance to see it-lol

catlover79
06-29-2008, 09:54 PM
I remember Where I Live. It was pretty good, from what little I remember about it. Didn't Flex end up on that Homeboys From Outer Space show?

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 09:55 PM
I was in College so I didn't get a chance to see it-lol


You didn't watch TV while in College?

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 09:59 PM
You didn't watch TV while in College?


It wasn't anytime to watch tv, between studying, going to class, working at my job, and hanging with friends there was no time left for tv watching.

Which is why I didn't see these shows

Me and the Boys
Thea
Getting By
Where I live
South Central
Sinbad Show
George

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 10:05 PM
It wasn't anytime to watch tv, between studying, going to class, working at my job, and hanging with friends there was no time left for tv watching.

Which is why I didn't see these shows

Me and the Boys
Thea
Getting By
Where I live
South Central
Sinbad Show
George


Well ask your friends, Where they at home watching TV in 93 on a Saturday night? I know I was hardly home.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 10:05 PM
I remember Where I Live. It was pretty good, from what little I remember about it. Didn't Flex end up on that Homeboys From Outer Space show?


That show must have really stunk if UPN cancelled it after one season-lol

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 10:21 PM
Well ask your friends, Where they at home watching TV in 93 on a Saturday night? I know I was hardly home.


At the age of 12 you should have had your but in the house in the fall of 93 on a saturday night-lol

Jude The Obscure
06-29-2008, 10:32 PM
Where I Live--was that Doug E. Doug's first TV show?

And anyone else remember "On Our Own"? With the Smollett family?

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 10:37 PM
Where I Live--was that Doug E. Doug's first TV show?

And anyone else remember "On Our Own"? With the Smollett family?


Yeah that was another show that I loved, It came on TVOne for a few months.

Mr. Television
06-29-2008, 10:38 PM
Only a couple years before then a lot of shows were ranked in the top 20 from Saturday night so somebody was home back then. Saturday was not exactly the dead zone that it is today.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 10:40 PM
Where I Live--was that Doug E. Doug's first TV show?

And anyone else remember "On Our Own"? With the Smollett family?


TV One used to air that show last year in the afternnon the Dad was a Dork-lol

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 10:40 PM
At the age of 12 you should have had your but in the house in the fall of 93 on a saturday night-lol


I was 13 at the time when it came on, You have to remember I was born in March. So at 13 I wasn't home all that much on Saturday nights. The only time that I would catch it was if I stayed home or if I didn't have friends over. That how I can remember that it came on Saturday nights.

I had a social life at 13 LOL

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 10:42 PM
Only a couple years before then a lot of shows were ranked in the top 20 from Saturday night so somebody was home back then. Saturday was not exactly the dead zone that it is today.


Yeah old and middle aged people were home on Saturday night LMAO

Jude The Obscure
06-29-2008, 10:45 PM
If I recall, On Our Own featured a different actor not related to the Smolletts to play the oldest brother (and not the dad like Sol thinks) and he had do that whole Madea/BigMama type drag thing in order to keep social services from breaking up the family after the parents had died.

TVFactFan
06-29-2008, 10:50 PM
If I recall, On Our Own featured a different actor not related to the Smolletts to play the oldest brother (and not the dad like Sol thinks) and he had do that whole Madea/BigMama type drag thing in order to keep social services from breaking up the family after the parents had died.


IT was an older sister

Brieannas21
06-29-2008, 10:56 PM
If I recall, On Our Own featured a different actor not related to the Smolletts to play the oldest brother (and not the dad like Sol thinks) and he had do that whole Madea/BigMama type drag thing in order to keep social services from breaking up the family after the parents had died.


Yeah he was acting like their Aunt for the South

catlover79
06-30-2008, 11:26 PM
Where I Live--was that Doug E. Doug's first TV show?

And anyone else remember "On Our Own"? With the Smollett family?

I remember On Our Own. Jurnee Smollett (who also played Michelle's friend on Full House) has grown up into a very pretty young lady. She was in the movie Roll Bounce, and also had a guest role last season on House.

Mr. Television
06-30-2008, 11:34 PM
Yeah old and middle aged people were home on Saturday night LMAO
Yea and when did networks ever care about middle age and old people? I'm sure their were a lot of 60 year olds watching Love Boat and Fantasy Island in the late '70s and early '80s. The same with AITF and MTM in the 1970's. Times have changed since then but at one time networks did program on Saturday and were very successful. I'm sure all the middle age and old people contributed to AITF being the #1 show in the country. lol

TVFactFan
06-30-2008, 11:36 PM
I think Brieanna is old enough to know that not all young people are outside on a saturday night in the entire country-lol

AND...........not all middle age people are IN on a saturday night

Mr. Television
07-01-2008, 12:24 AM
I think Brieanna is old enough to know that not all young people are outside on a saturday night in the entire country-lol

AND...........not all middle age people are IN on a saturday night
That's for sure. What about young couples with little kids? Most of them are home. I know my sister used to go out but as soon as she had a baby, she stopped going out so much. Heck when I was a kid I was home and my parents who were not middle age were home with me. lol

Brieannas21
07-01-2008, 12:27 AM
I think Brieanna is old enough to know that not all young people are outside on a saturday night in the entire country-lol

AND...........not all middle age people are IN on a saturday night


Yes I know that not everyone goes out on Saturday night. But "Where I Live" didn't follow anything that would catch people attention. So by it being a new show, they should have put it on at a different time slot and a different day. A Time when there are a lot of people who are at home actually watching tv. TGIF would have been perfect for that show but theres only so much space.

Brieannas21
07-01-2008, 12:30 AM
That's for sure. What about young couples with little kids? Most of them are home. I know my sister used to go out but as soon as she had a baby, she stopped going out so much. Heck when I was a kid I was home and my parents who were not middle age were home with me. lol


Yes but there were A Lot of people who actually went out on Saturday nights. That's why nowadays people who are in sitcoms would HATE it if their show were put on Saturday nights. That's probably why there aren't any sitcoms that come on Saturdays any more. Because not too many people are home.

Mr. Television
07-01-2008, 12:47 AM
Yes but there were A Lot of people who actually went out on Saturday nights. That's why nowadays people who are in sitcoms would HATE it if their show were put on Saturday nights. That's probably why there aren't any sitcoms that come on Saturdays any more. Because not too many people are home.
and people that are home nowadays rent movies from Blockbuster...you'd be surprise how packed our blocbuster is on a Saturday night while others catch up on shows that they've taped during the week. Since the networks don't cater to TV viewers on Saturdays , they find other things to watch. And yes a lot of people do go out but not everybody and people did go out in the past too but the networks still programed great shows and many of them were hits. Where I Live aired in 1993 so that wasn't too long after NBC's great Saturday night lineup ended. The networks hadn't abandoned the viewers yet. I will agree with you that ABC never really protected it by pairing it with a hit show. It would have done better on TGIF.

Brieannas21
07-01-2008, 12:54 AM
and people that are home nowadays rent movies from Blockbuster...you'd be surprise how packed our blocbuster is on a Saturday night while others catch up on shows that they've taped during the week. Since the networks don't cater to TV viewers on Saturdays , they find other things to watch. And yes a lot of people do go out but not everybody and people did go out in the past too but the networks still programed great shows and many of them were hits. Where I Live aired in 1993 so that wasn't too long after NBC's great Saturday night lineup ended. The networks hadn't abandoned the viewers yet. I will agree with you that ABC never really protected it by pairing it with a hit show. It would have done better on TGIF.



I did not say that everyone went out on Saturday night, but many young people did and that was the target audience for Where I Live. ABC should have put it on earlier in the week when a lot of young folks were home.

To tell the truth I did not even know that Blockbuster was still around LOL, I have not seen one of those in ages.

Mr. Television
07-01-2008, 01:01 AM
I did not say that everyone went out on Saturday night, but many young people did and that was the target audience for Where I Live. ABC should have put it on earlier in the week when a lot of young folks were home.

To tell the truth I did not even know that Blockbuster was still around LOL, I have not seen one of those in ages.
Yea but the networks always programmed for young people on Saturday night...Love Boat, Fantasy Island, Chips, Facts of Life, BJ and the Bear.. NBC even had Hunter and Sisters on in the 80s and early 90s and they were hits..this was nothing new. If Where I lived would have aired on NBC in the 80's on Saturday night it would have been a hit.

Oh yea. I live on the PA-Md border and their's about 4 or 5 that I can think of just around here. lol

Brieannas21
07-01-2008, 01:17 AM
Yea but the networks always programmed for young people on Saturday night...Love Boat, Fantasy Island, Chips, Facts of Life, BJ and the Bear.. NBC even had Hunter and Sisters on in the 80s and early 90s and they were hits..this was nothing new. If Where I lived would have aired on NBC in the 80's on Saturday night it would have been a hit.

Oh yea. I live on the PA-Md border and their's about 4 or 5 that I can think of just around here. lol


In '93 There was nothing on at all that was targeted towards a young audience. ABC in 93 sucked, just about every station back then sucked on Sat night. Except for NBC and that's only because Empty Nest and Nurses were on. But even Those two shows ratings sucked, and they were gone the next season.

Mr. Television
07-01-2008, 07:15 AM
In '93 There was nothing on at all that was targeted towards a young audience. ABC in 93 sucked, just about every station back then sucked on Sat night. Except for NBC and that's only because Empty Nest and Nurses were on. But even Those two shows ratings sucked, and they were gone the next season.
Actually Empty Nest lasted another season after that. It went in cycles though. In the mid 70's CBS dominated and then in the late 70's and early 80's it was ABC and then NBC took over in the mid 80's. By the time 93 rolled around CBS was starting to dominate. DR. Quinn was starting to dominate the 8:00 hour. I never did like that show but my sister did and she was 11 at the time and watched it during her teenage years. I liked Walker Texas Ranger. I don't think that appealed to an old crowd. I was 28 when that show came on. Probably a mostly man crowd though. They were both top 20 hits. The point is what made Where I Live unsuccessful was not who it appealed too but the fact that it aired on a night when ABC had nothing to offer aside from The Commish at 10. The show that followed Where I Live was The Paula Poundstone Show...a variety show of all things. So ABC aired 2 sitcoms to start the night, then a variety show and finally a police show. All new shows BTW. ABC was lucky the Commish made it with a schedule like that.

TVFactFan
07-01-2008, 07:05 PM
In '93 There was nothing on at all that was targeted towards a young audience. ABC in 93 sucked, just about every station back then sucked on Sat night. Except for NBC and that's only because Empty Nest and Nurses were on. But even Those two shows ratings sucked, and they were gone the next season.


In 1993 there were these shows that targeted young audiences

Thea
Living Single
Getting By
The Sinbad show
George