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Ireneparalegal
06-05-2008, 10:54 PM
Was this show pretty good at being consistent? I realize there are many shows where we can rip and shred them apart regarding how inconsistent they are, but what abt Roseanne? While watching the show today and seeing Jackie talking to Roseanne abt going out to a single's dance with Nancy and needing to buy a dress, it dawned on me that later on Jackie mentions singles dances and Nancy made a joke abt she assumed they went together as a couple. :lol: I wonder if the writers had kept that in mind when writing the scripts.

Heather987
06-07-2008, 01:54 AM
The only ones that come to mind are:

David in one episode is a character Steve (not playing another character the same character Marks little brother), but later on I think they try to make a small joke to cover it up but it doesn't really work out cause Davids mother calls him David.
I think the joke went something along the lines of Darlene and David were fighting and Roseanne says something to Dan like David isn't even his real name. If Darlene only called that him cause she had such a hold on him and controlled him like Roseanne was trying to make it sound then why would everyone including his mother call him David and not by his real name?

Ireneparalegal
06-07-2008, 02:10 AM
Actually, his name in that episode was Kevin. It was later changed to David.

gotsmart
06-07-2008, 09:55 AM
The "Direct to Video" episode from season 8 featured a pregnant Roseanne but aired after she had given birth. And on that same note we were told throughout the 7th season that they were having a girl but obvioulsy when she gave birth it was a boy.

DJ's room had a door that kept switching walls.

In late season 4 we learn Roseanne and Jackie had a bad childhood. But in season 1 where their father vists there are no hints of that.

How come we never saw 'The Lunchbox' in season 9?

zypherix
06-07-2008, 10:10 AM
The "Direct to Video" episode from season 8 featured a pregnant Roseanne but aired after she had given birth.

The episodes were aired out of order.



How come we never saw 'The Lunchbox' in season 9?

You did.. in the thanksgiving episode.

JulieSomoski
06-07-2008, 03:21 PM
I think this show was fairly consisten. And I think one reason we didn't see much of The Lunchbox in the last season was because they had won the lottery - even in the series finale, they turned it over completely to Nancy and Leon.

That Direct to Video episode was very odd to watch in the middle of the season, already a few episodes after Roseanne had given birth. I didn't understand why they aired that one out of order.

Ireneparalegal
06-09-2008, 07:28 PM
When we first heard/seen Arnie, we were told he was a friend of Dan's.
Remember when Arnie came over to play poker and Roseanne got all giddy when he kissed her?

Later, it came to be the girls (Roseanne, Jackie, Bonnie, etc.) had gone to school with him and he was to be avoided at all costs! :lol: Which is why they got upset when Jackie had slept with him on that drunken night.

JulieSomoski
06-10-2008, 03:38 PM
When we first heard/seen Arnie, we were told he was a friend of Dan's.
Remember when Arnie came over to play poker and Roseanne got all giddy when he kissed her?

Later, it came to be the girls (Roseanne, Jackie, Bonnie, etc.) had gone to school with him and he was to be avoided at all costs! :lol: Which is why they got upset when Jackie had slept with him on that drunken night.

Arnie was probably the most inconsistent character in this whole show-LOL. He could have still been a friend of Dan's, though, and went to school with both him and Roseanne. But, it seems like he grew into a huge pig by the time of his final episodes, whereas in his first episodes, he was just one of Dan's buddies.

Ireneparalegal
06-10-2008, 05:35 PM
Arnie was probably the most inconsistent character in this whole show-LOL. He could have still been a friend of Dan's, though, and went to school with both him and Roseanne. But, it seems like he grew into a huge pig by the time of his final episodes, whereas in his first episodes, he was just one of Dan's buddies.
True. He could have been one of those guys that Dan liked but the ladies disliked. Rightly so. :lol: I am in the minority by saying I loved the Arnie character. I guess the fact that he was not stable, he was a weirdo at times and crazy, made me think of a few cuckoos that I have known in my life because they were my brother's friend or my former husband's friend. The kind you don't want to be left alone with for a long period of time. :eek: :rofl:

It was obvious from watching the show you can easily see the jitters and how hyper Tom was from doing cocaine. I can't help but remember a Howard Stern interview where Roseanne appeared and Tom was on the phone. Tom apologized to Roseanne and seemed to be sincere. Roseanne was still on the whole "child abuse" kick and accusing people of stuff that to this day I don't know if it is true or not. I felt like Roseanne was mentally not all there, since she said she was bipolar. By this time Tom had cleaned up and he was being careful not to be mean when asked questions by Howard abt Roseanne. Tom admitted to doing certain things and I think that was good enough. I just think you have this bipolar woman and this guy who was doing drugs, they both just should not have been married, at least not in those conditions.

JulieSomoski
06-11-2008, 04:28 PM
True. He could have been one of those guys that Dan liked but the ladies disliked. Rightly so. :lol: I am in the minority by saying I loved the Arnie character. I guess the fact that he was not stable, he was a weirdo at times and crazy, made me think of a few cuckoos that I have known in my life because they were my brother's friend or my former husband's friend. The kind you don't want to be left alone with for a long period of time. :eek: :rofl:

It was obvious from watching the show you can easily see the jitters and how hyper Tom was from doing cocaine. I can't help but remember a Howard Stern interview where Roseanne appeared and Tom was on the phone. Tom apologized to Roseanne and seemed to be sincere. Roseanne was still on the whole "child abuse" kick and accusing people of stuff that to this day I don't know if it is true or not. I felt like Roseanne was mentally not all there, since she said she was bipolar. By this time Tom had cleaned up and he was being careful not to be mean when asked questions by Howard abt Roseanne. Tom admitted to doing certain things and I think that was good enough. I just think you have this bipolar woman and this guy who was doing drugs, they both just should not have been married, at least not in those conditions.

I liked Arnie in the earlier episodes, but he just got on my nerves towards the end. I think when he was abducted by aliens, it all went downhill-LOL

Yeah, Roseanne and Tom were just not meant to be. I think Tom is what brought out the bad in Roseanne. I feel sorry for her first husband, Bill Pentland, who she actually left for Tom. From what I've seen and heard, he looks to be a nice guy that got shafted by Roseanne - but what man wasn't, seriously.

And Roseanne definitely had her bad times. You could tell it showed up in front of the camera, too, especially in those middle seasons when Roseanne was just getting off her divorce. I think now, though, she's really rebounded, and she's a whole different person than she was back in the 90's, which is great to see!

Brieannas21
06-11-2008, 05:03 PM
mark character changed he went from a thug type of person to really stupid and dim witted

coffield3
06-12-2008, 08:57 AM
What about in season 4 (i think) one minute Beckys hair is short the next it is long :lol:

JulieSomoski
06-12-2008, 01:19 PM
What about in season 4 (i think) one minute Beckys hair is short the next it is long :lol:

Oh yeah, that's a good one. That showed they were definitely airing the episodes way out of order. For 2 or 3 episodes, her hair would be short, then it would go back to being long, then it would be short again. I never understand why networks air episodes of a show out of order. Wouldn't it just be easier to air episodes in order?-LOL

kooky12
06-12-2008, 01:45 PM
When Roseanne brings up her upcoming breast reduction surgery, Darlene says, ""I think that we should talk about this."
This was totally out of character for Darlene. One would expect a sarcastic remark or a crude breast joke, but not the touchy-feely, "I think that we should talk about this."
I guess they just did this to set up the joke about, "These (boobs) weren't you're concern since you went to solid foods."

Dusk Angel
06-13-2008, 12:46 AM
True. He could have been one of those guys that Dan liked but the ladies disliked. Rightly so. :lol: I am in the minority by saying I loved the Arnie character. I guess the fact that he was not stable, he was a weirdo at times and crazy, made me think of a few cuckoos that I have known in my life because they were my brother's friend or my former husband's friend. The kind you don't want to be left alone with for a long period of time. :eek: :rofl:

It was obvious from watching the show you can easily see the jitters and how hyper Tom was from doing cocaine. I can't help but remember a Howard Stern interview where Roseanne appeared and Tom was on the phone. Tom apologized to Roseanne and seemed to be sincere. Roseanne was still on the whole "child abuse" kick and accusing people of stuff that to this day I don't know if it is true or not. I felt like Roseanne was mentally not all there, since she said she was bipolar. By this time Tom had cleaned up and he was being careful not to be mean when asked questions by Howard abt Roseanne. Tom admitted to doing certain things and I think that was good enough. I just think you have this bipolar woman and this guy who was doing drugs, they both just should not have been married, at least not in those conditions.


God. Color me naive. And here I thought that he was just trying to play the character that way to be quirky! I wasn't a fan of that character and thought that the alien abduction thing mentioned below was the perfect way to get rid of Arnie.

I'm not sure if I ever believed Roseanne when it came to her multiple personalities and child abuse, either. I suspect that she wanted to sell a book that she'd had written with Tom Arnold at one time and needed to generate publicity. Aw, well. She was still a groundbreaking comedienne and opened doors for women everywhere.

JulieSomoski
06-13-2008, 01:54 PM
God. Color me naive. And here I thought that he was just trying to play the character that way to be quirky! I wasn't a fan of that character and thought that the alien abduction thing mentioned below was the perfect way to get rid of Arnie.

I'm not sure if I ever believed Roseanne when it came to her multiple personalities and child abuse, either. I suspect that she wanted to sell a book that she'd had written with Tom Arnold at one time and needed to generate publicity. Aw, well. She was still a groundbreaking comedienne and opened doors for women everywhere.

Very well said. I'm not sure if I believe Roseanne 100% of the time either, but I gotta say, that multiple personality thing would definitely explain a lot ;)

I think in the end, Roseanne is definitely a changed a woman. She is nowhere near the kind of woman she was back in the 80's and 90's, which is great. She got out of a bad marriage to Tom Arnold, and has really been a role model for independent, single women, by far.

Ireneparalegal
06-23-2008, 09:16 PM
Very well said. I'm not sure if I believe Roseanne 100% of the time either, but I gotta say, that multiple personality thing would definitely explain a lot ;)

I think in the end, Roseanne is definitely a changed a woman. She is nowhere near the kind of woman she was back in the 80's and 90's, which is great. She got out of a bad marriage to Tom Arnold, and has really been a role model for independent, single women, by far.
I agree. ;)

browneyes106
10-03-2008, 03:42 PM
The "Direct to Video" episode from season 8 featured a pregnant Roseanne but aired after she had given birth. And on that same note we were told throughout the 7th season that they were having a girl but obvioulsy when she gave birth it was a boy.

DJ's room had a door that kept switching walls.

In late season 4 we learn Roseanne and Jackie had a bad childhood. But in season 1 where their father vists there are no hints of that.

How come we never saw 'The Lunchbox' in season 9?

I have wondered too about he inconsistency about Roseanne and Jackie's dad. In the season 1 episode it seemed that Mel and the girls were close. I remember Roseanne hugging him very lovingly.

MusicJunkie
10-03-2008, 04:10 PM
The "Direct to Video" episode from season 8 featured a pregnant Roseanne but aired after she had given birth.

I think that was ABC's fault more than the shows. It was obvious the episode was filmed before the birth (since Dan had a beard for instance) but ABC chose to show it out of order, mainly because they knew they had to air the Halloween episode in October.

Another inconsistancy I didn't like about the final episode was when Roseanne told DJ "I'm going to tell you what I told Becky, then Darlene... we love the new baby more". Shouldn't he have been told that about Jerry instead of Harris? I think the baby was more or less a plot device to write in when the real Roseanne was with child, the baby became very inessential to the show after the initial post-birth episodes.

Gaguy
02-12-2009, 01:47 AM
A few stick out to me...I was watching an episode in season three, Becky has short hair. The very next episode that aired a week later she has very long hair. Was she wearing extensions or what? That's not humanly possible! I thought shows were generally taped week to week...Did they record them in one order and air them in another?

There are a few others but nothing comes to mind as of now.

browneyes106
02-12-2009, 02:27 AM
I think that was ABC's fault more than the shows. It was obvious the episode was filmed before the birth (since Dan had a beard for instance) but ABC chose to show it out of order, mainly because they knew they had to air the Halloween episode in October.

Another inconsistancy I didn't like about the final episode was when Roseanne told DJ "I'm going to tell you what I told Becky, then Darlene... we love the new baby more". Shouldn't he have been told that about Jerry instead of Harris? I think the baby was more or less a plot device to write in when the real Roseanne was with child, the baby became very inessential to the show after the initial post-birth episodes.

Good point. I agree ABC has fault too. But most the 90s ABC sitcoms had inconsistencies. Full House, Family Matters and Boy Meets World had tons of them.

Purffin
02-16-2009, 03:27 PM
I don't know if this is an inconsistency....but the whole thing with Dan' mom Audrey, she was perfectly normal when she first appeared on the Thanksgiving episode then later on they made her crazy, why?:confused:

browneyes106
03-24-2009, 12:16 AM
I don't know if this is an inconsistency....but the whole thing with Dan' mom Audrey, she was perfectly normal when she first appeared on the Thanksgiving episode then later on they made her crazy, why?:confused:

I have wondered a lot about that. But often people with mental illness have periods of time in which they seem normal and sane. But I do consider an inconsistency because if she had serious mental illness Dan would have known his entire life.

hughpuppies
05-03-2009, 04:26 AM
I still remember them interviewing Roseanne and she said my son and I were watching reruns of Roseanne and he looked at me and said mom you were fat.

Her son was about 4 or 5 at the time.