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Bot-the-chris
05-31-2008, 08:15 AM
Does anyone know remember Christopher Chichester of the John & Linda Sojas case? Could this guy be mr. chichester? http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/149umva.html

Also, are there any updates to the Sojas case?

justins5256
05-31-2008, 11:25 AM
Does anyone know remember Christopher Chichester of the John & Linda Sojas case? Could this guy be mr. chichester? http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/149umva.html

Also, are there any updates to the Sojas case?

Aside from the composite/bust sort of looking like the one photo of Chichester that has been shown, I really don't see the similarities. For one thing the age is all wrong.

Bot-the-chris
05-31-2008, 03:19 PM
Aside from the composite/bust sort of looking like the one photo of Chichester that has been shown, I really don't see the similarities. For one thing the age is all wrong.

Okay, and what else is wrong?

ididn'tdoit
05-31-2008, 05:33 PM
Hmm, interesting Bot-the-chris! :)

I just rewatched this case and I was wondering if there's any way to check the passenger lists to see if "Chichester" (Christian Gerhard Strider?) and Linda Sohus ever boarded a plane? Is that even possible?

Bot-the-chris
06-02-2008, 05:55 AM
Hmm, interesting Bot-the-chris! :)

I just rewatched this case and I was wondering if there's any way to check the passenger lists to see if "Chichester" (Christian Gerhard Strider?) and Linda Sohus ever boarded a plane? Is that even possible?

What do we know about christian gerhard strider? Why use an alias?

kadrmas15
06-03-2008, 10:20 AM
Well he probably wanted a name that sounded more American and not German. I mean he could have used his real name here and I doubt anything of real consequence would have came of it. However maybe he used the Chichester alias so that it would be harder for authorities to trace his identity if he killed someone? I dont really know, it is certainly a strange case. I wouldnt be surprised if Chichester and Linda Solis are back over in Germany now living a nice life.

It seems that Chichester drove John Solis's truck all the way across the country from southern California to Greenwich, Connecticut. If the truck could be found that would be crucial. It looked like a early 1980's Toyota single cab pickup truck. The mysterious woman that picked up Linda's cats might very well have been Linda herself or it was someone Linda sent to pick them up. Linda had an attachment to her cats and for a mysterious woman to go and specifically ask for those cats is interesting.

Honestly, I just think that the only logical explaination for this is that Linda Solis was in someway involved with Christopher Chichester. Obviously John Solis was either lured to the guesthouse or perhaps he even caught Linda and Chichester in the act!

The fact that just his body was there and that it was in seperate plastic bags tells me that Chichester dismembered John and then buried him in the backyard. It seems he was buried relatively deeply and I just dont think he could have done that without someone noticing. I am not sure if Linda helped kill John but I think she is alive and has knowledge of what happened.

The only other possibility I can think of is that Chichester wanted Linda and John was in the way of him achiveing what he wanted. So he killed John through some twisted scheme to try to win Linda over? The fact those postcards were in Linda's handwriting tells me that Linda was in Europe, wrote them out herself and sent them. Unless of course Chichester for some reason had European postcards in his possession and had Linda write on them and then mailed them when he got to Europe to frame Linda for her husbans murder.

Although it seems to me that Chichester thought that it would never be known that John was murdered. I think he thought that everyone would just assume that John and Linda would run off to Europe and he told John's mother not to talk to the cops and because she was a severe alcoholic that was easily controlled he just thought the cops wouldnt look into it.

James T
06-03-2008, 11:21 AM
Looks more like Hank Marvin.:lol:

Bot-the-chris
06-03-2008, 04:26 PM
Looks more like Hank Marvin.:lol:

But, the bust does not look funny.

Celia
06-05-2008, 04:21 PM
when he was living at the house in San Marino. My mother knew him from the Friends of the Library and a bunch of us played Trivial Pursuit in the guest house once.

I spoke with the San Marino police about him about ten years afterwards. Guess they didn't find anything useful.

charmedsignora
06-05-2008, 05:56 PM
Welcome, Celia! :wave:

What, if anything, do you know about this case that the UM segment failed to mention?

Celia
06-05-2008, 06:08 PM
I'd watch it and maybe call the police back! No statute of limitations here, eh?

Bot-the-chris
06-08-2008, 04:51 PM
when he was living at the house in San Marino. My mother knew him from the Friends of the Library and a bunch of us played Trivial Pursuit in the guest house once.

I spoke with the San Marino police about him about ten years afterwards. Guess they didn't find anything useful.

Who are you referring to? The guy in the bust or mr. chichester himself?

Necco
08-05-2008, 04:58 PM
Hi. Long time lurker here. Nice to meet you all.
Apparently, they're looking into the possibility that the 'Clark Rockefeller' guy involved in the recent kidnapping in Boston could be Christopher Chichester!

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view/2008_08_05_L_A__cops_probe_possible_link_between_body_and_Rockefeller/

mphs95
08-05-2008, 08:17 PM
Hi. Long time lurker here. Nice to meet you all.
Apparently, they're looking into the possibility that the 'Clark Rockefeller' guy involved in the recent kidnapping in Boston could be Christopher Chichester!

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view/2008_08_05_L_A__cops_probe_possible_link_between_body_and_Rockefeller/

There is a resemblance...that's for sure. Whether it's him, I can't say I think so for certain. What do you all think?

joetnymedic
08-05-2008, 11:07 PM
let's see:
1. looks the same
2. uses several aliases
3. likes to hang out with the upscale crowd
4. while living in mass and nh, told people he did work for the govt (john and linda were supposably on a top secret "mission" for the govt.
5. finger prints match
6. chichester disappears in 1993, rockefeller appears 1994
7. here's an iteresting little note. rockefeller has a close friend who is a pediatrician in ny and she lives in-you guessed it greenwich, ct
8. chichester tried to unload the truck in greenwich
9. early in the rockefeller investigation authorities mentioned that rockefeller or could be an alias used by him was supposably issued a social security number in CT
10. chichester disappears, rockefeller appears, rockefeller disappears, chip smith appears.

can ya feel me - guilty as charged. only thing missing is where is linda?

Mom24Girls
08-06-2008, 01:54 AM
I grew up around the corner from the Lorain house where the bones were discovered. Chichester went to the same church as my family. I was a senior in high school when I felt he was "stalking" me. I just avoided him because he was creepy. Years later, after Chichester disappeared and the bones were discovered my Dad told me that he strongly mentioned to Mr. Chichester to stay away from me back in 1983. My Dad called me today and said "they got him!" My Dad saw the news and before he even heard the link to the San Marino bones, he knew it was Chichester, just by the picture. I'm convinced as well. Same wierd stuff, another city.

videohunter
08-06-2008, 09:05 AM
although i would have never made the connection myself as it's been years since i saw the episode, now that it has been pointed out ,I'd say they r def the same person...absolutely amazing...:eek:


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/VH1975/1dc90665b5_clark08062008.jpg

ddelta
08-06-2008, 09:11 AM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08062008/new/nationalnews/rocke_shocker_in_1985_mystery_123233.htm

Article in the New York Post on this case.

I think he def is him!

Or So It Seems
08-06-2008, 09:19 AM
Link didn't work, this one should (http://www.nypost.com/seven/08062008/news/nationalnews/rocke_shocker_in_1985_mystery_123233.htm)

So far the matched fingerprints are being reported by the retired San Marino Police Chief. The investigators haven't said anything publicly. But Chief Wills must know something.

This would have to be one of the most unbelievable updates in UM history. I didn't think this case would ever be solved. I'm holding my breath.

Robert Stack's description of the "enigmatic Chichester" was spot on.

HyeTev
08-06-2008, 10:06 AM
I saw this story on GMA this morning and they had the two pics posted. No question they are the same guy. And this Rockefeller's profile sounds suspiciously similar to Chichester's.

mozartpc27
08-06-2008, 10:10 AM
If the fingers prints match, case closed. I'm surprised how much I think Chichester looks like Woody Allen all of a sudden.

crochetbuff
08-06-2008, 11:36 AM
let's see:
1. looks the same
2. uses several aliases
3. likes to hang out with the upscale crowd
4. while living in mass and nh, told people he did work for the govt (john and linda were supposably on a top secret "mission" for the govt.
5. finger prints match
6. chichester disappears in 1993, rockefeller appears 1994
7. here's an iteresting little note. rockefeller has a close friend who is a pediatrician in ny and she lives in-you guessed it greenwich, ct
8. chichester tried to unload the truck in greenwich
9. early in the rockefeller investigation authorities mentioned that rockefeller or could be an alias used by him was supposably issued a social security number in CT
10. chichester disappears, rockefeller appears, rockefeller disappears, chip smith appears.

can ya feel me - guilty as charged. only thing missing is where is linda?


I agree it's him. Same cleft in his chin. Fingerprint match - main thing.

Linda's bones are probably just somewhere else.

Ms. Boss and her daughter are lucky to still be among the living.

Heard his lawyer talk today. Typical lawyer talk. "He doesn't remember before 1994 ..." How convenient!:p

So who is this guy really? Anyone he went to school with ever gonna recognize him and tell us his real name? Hope so.

charmedsignora
08-06-2008, 01:12 PM
Wow, I couldn't believe it! If it really is him (which seems pretty likely, given that the fingerprints match), how soon do you think we'll find out where Linda is/where Linda's remains are?

joetnymedic
08-06-2008, 01:34 PM
I've been following this case for a bit now. What I'm thinking is that rockefeller/chichester/etc is not going to give the cops anything. The Sohus' dissappeared in 1985. memories are dulled, people connected with the case may have moved away or even died. This guy isnt saying a word even when confronted with the evidence. While I'm sure it's him and I'm sure the cops know it's him as fingerprints don't lie. They have to match by a certain number of points in order to have a hit. And I know everyone else here agrees it's him. But the more he remains silent, the harder it is going to be to get the needed info/confirmation. As far as Linda goes, she could very well be overseas if it were a love triangle, but i'm thinking he offed her somewhere else. I'm thinking he used her for what he wanted or got and when he was through it was over. Between the print, the photos and the whole profile for both of them I am willing to bank it's the same guy.

Corky Kneivel
08-06-2008, 03:51 PM
I've been following this case for a bit now. What I'm thinking is that rockefeller/chichester/etc is not going to give the cops anything. The Sohus' dissappeared in 1985. memories are dulled, people connected with the case may have moved away or even died. This guy isnt saying a word even when confronted with the evidence. While I'm sure it's him and I'm sure the cops know it's him as fingerprints don't lie. They have to match by a certain number of points in order to have a hit. And I know everyone else here agrees it's him. But the more he remains silent, the harder it is going to be to get the needed info/confirmation. As far as Linda goes, she could very well be overseas if it were a love triangle, but i'm thinking he offed her somewhere else. I'm thinking he used her for what he wanted or got and when he was through it was over. Between the print, the photos and the whole profile for both of them I am willing to bank it's the same guy.


This guy is a career con man. He won't reveal the absolute whole unvarnished truth to anyone, ever. If he reveals anything, which I doubt, he'll reveal just as much as he feels like, probbaly to get a deal, and nothing more. I doubt he'll even go that far.

I'm glad to see he was caught.

kadrmas15
08-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Well, he will get some serious time on the kidnapping charges. He probably will be tried on both state and federal charges on that case since he took the girl across state lines. My guess would be he will not talk to the cops. He will keep faking this memory lapse crap. Why would he want to talk? So he can get LWOP or maybe even get shipped off to San Quentin for a date with a needle? Naw.

This murder case against him actually isnt nearly as open and shut as what some people are making. If he talks, than that changes the situation. However they still have to prove Linda is dead and not running around over seas somewhere and they have to prove Chichester even did the murder of John. But if this is in fact Chichester, which in my opinion it is Chichester, than I am glad they caught him.

Rieder
08-06-2008, 06:51 PM
It seems the fingerprints Christopher Chichester submitted in an application for a stockbroking licence in the early 1980s correspond to Clark Rockefeller. I presume he could not imagine abducting his daughter would reveal another identity and a connection to the 1985 disappearance of John and Linda Sohus. He is a psychopath who enjoys being manipulative and deceptive. He could have committed other murders and violent crimes. He had 23 years to refine his technique. He most probably did not expect federal authorities to pursue him with vigour.

Thiussat
08-06-2008, 09:12 PM
I came back to this board looking for info on this case. I've been watching the endless news coverage of this "Rockefeller" character and didn't think much of it at the time. Then they showed the old black and white photo of Chichester and the photo rang a bell. I have seen that photo before -- somewhere. Was the John and Linda Sohus murder case ever featured on UM? I ask because I know I've seen the Chichester photo before.

At any rate, the entire reason police made this connection between "Rockefeller" and Chichester is because when the police ran "Rockerfeller's" fingerprints, it came up in the database as a match to Chichester's. That's when the L.A. police took an interest.

Taking the fingerprints into account and the extremely similar photos, it is likely that Chichester is Rockefeller and that we have another solved cold case.

crystaldawn
08-06-2008, 09:50 PM
Was the John and Linda Sohus murder case ever featured on UM?

Yes their case was featured on UM so thats probably why the photo looked familiar to you.

synthisislab
08-07-2008, 01:44 AM
Wow! So they captured this scuzzball finally? I was just watching this segment yesterday on volume 7 and didn't think the guy would ever surface. I wonder where he dumped Linda.

Rieder
08-07-2008, 03:17 AM
The overwhelming compulsion to dominate and control people finally undermined Rockefeller's freedom. I suppose John and Linda discovered Chichester was an undesirable character and threatened to contact the authorities or embarrass him in a social context. Chichester decided his 'reputation' could not be compromised and murdered them.

Rockefeller decided to abduct his daughter after his wife discovered his manipulation and lies. The abduction was an attempt to re-establish his control and inflict suffering on his wife for undermining his reputation.

Rockefeller is a sophisticated criminal. He will limit the damage by refusing to admit to knowing John and Linda Sohus and not cooperate with authorities. His refusal to cooperate could conceal other violent crimes and limit the damage to his reputation.

Necco
08-07-2008, 08:48 AM
A news article suggests that Chichester/Rockefeller may in fact have been a German exchange student in Connecticut almost 30 years ago. A couple that claimed to have him in their home was later contacted by the FBI during the investigation into John Sohus' truck.

More at link
http://www.wtnh.com/global/story.asp?s=8803073

edited to add:
More informative article here:
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1111596&srvc=home&position=emailed

joetnymedic
08-07-2008, 01:44 PM
As I said before. I've been tracking this case for a bit now. As I live in CT and worked both in CT and NY as a medic before retiring in 2002, I always keep up on both CT and NY news. The fingerprint that they traced came back to a brokers license that was applied for by a person calling themselves Christopher Crowe, Now the funny part is when Chichester was caught with John Sohus' Truck in Greenwich(1988), which he tried to sell to a ministers son and when the son tried to register it, he found out there was a lien on it from dmv and it could not be registered. the guy went to Greenwich Police and reported it - probaly as a larceny, anyways, the cops did a V.I.N. check and found the truck came back to John Sohus and a missing persons case from CA, and a possible witness Christopher Chichester now go figure the cops go looking and crowe/chichester is mia. Another interesting fact quoted by a ny paper is that Rockefeller has a person he calls his aunt who lives in greenwich, ct. and works as a pediatrician in mannhattan at NYU. (and excuse the capitalization errors as i am being lazy). now a supposed friend of rockefeller/chichester/crowe says this so called aunt handled all of the crisises in his life. now while rockefeller has 4 major aliases, i know there are more but i am concentrating on these 4. look at the similarities. all 4 turn up in upper class circles, all 4 claim to be from influental families, all 4 of them seem to have money, to some extent get involved in community service, and a bunch of other things including each of them have several aliases. now except for this last one when the heat is on they simply vanish. the 4 i am talking about are chichester, rockefeller, reiter, and "chip" smith. The prints connected, the photos are similar,the actions are the same. So are all these individuals really one person? the odds are yes. now rockefellers not talking to police, etc. reason behind this. 1. by not talking, he can strike some type of a deal avoiding a needle in his arm by giving investigators info on where linda or her remains are (and yes i believe she is dead, even if johns murder were part of a love triangle, linda could expose him so he'd need to tie up loose ends so he wouldnt be exposede/caught. So he gives them a little bit of info. and I know MA wouldnt give a death sentence for the charges he has but CA will if they can prove the murder charge. To be quite honest, we all know that CA is gonna make a case, but without his cooperation, it'll be a harder and longer process. But given the amount of time lapsed here already, peoples memories dull, some people are dead including johns mother, so it wont be an easy task. now with this berlin, ct connection, the families involved remember reiter, they already said the photos are him. immigration is now also involved and are saying reiter was a student who came here and "may" have overstayed his visa. So, we have a print, we have photos all showing appearently the same person just different names and alot of them. an important thing, probably one of the more important things is to establish a good and valid time line. reiter moved from ct to ca in ______ year reiter disappears, chichester appears in ca in this year chichester disappears in ex year, crowe shows up, crowe disappears in ex year and rockefeller shows up. rockefeller disappears and chip smith shows up. now we all know rockefellers timeline and that chip smith showed up while rockefeller was still in his rockefeller role, this could have been a similar m.o. in the other cases too. all this guy has to do is just give a little piece like he already has (i lived in CA but dont remember when) and it's just like dangling a carrot in front of a horse. He keeps the investigators attention, and like I said can possibly work out a plea deal. Take this one for instance, I'll cop to the fact that that was john and that i killed him but i dont know where linda is if you get me transfered from mass to california or to a federal prision and take the death penalty off the table. His lawyer gets the deal in writting and he's set. he cops to one murder gets life and he's off. because think about this, if he cops to both murders, most likely he is gonna get the death penalty. as long as lindas body doesnt show he's set. Sorry if this was long winded, and I actually have more to input, but I'll do that at another time.

Joe

joetnymedic
08-07-2008, 02:10 PM
go figure after my long winded post i find this which hasnt been out yet:

http://davecopeland.com/index.php/2008/08/06/rockefeller-tied-to-wall-street-milken/

joetnymedic
08-07-2008, 03:24 PM
here's the postcard supposably sent to the book store manager from the sohus'

Necco
08-07-2008, 03:51 PM
here's the postcard supposably sent to the book store manager from the sohus'


Cool! Where'd you find that?

Also, off topic CT in the house. :wave: Hi neighbor

joetnymedic
08-07-2008, 08:11 PM
Hey Necco!!!

Anyways here I go and I've been talking and researching my butt of on this today - Guess being retired, I have too much time on my hands and as I'm only 45 that makes it even worse-lol. And no, i'm not rich, famous, or anything-lol. I'd trade retirement to go back to being a street medic in a heartbeat. Got sick and had to stop. So I retired the hard way.

Anyways here we go and these are from emails I sent to someone I'm working with on this:

christopher chichester only 2 that are age 48 now
so. pasadena, ca and pasadena, ca

christopher a crowe 48 now
campbellsburg, ky
eminence, ky
lagrange, ky
campbellsbury, ky ( i highly doubt this was him)

christopher m crowe 48
bowling green, ny
beaver dam, ny (this i think is a strong possibility)

and of course a hit on clark rockefeller in boston, ma

funny thing usually when you run these things if known they kick back relatives and all of these have none listed. i got a couple hits for the charles smith aka in md. nothing at all on clark m or clark mill rockefeller in the whole U.S.

working on james frederick which should be fun and then i'll do the j.p. alias.

another idea i have since he's used other individuals SSN's is to check the social security death database. When some guys go on the lam they usually find a person who is about their age in a cemetary or death notice, etc and get a birth certificate and social security card as it takes a few months for it to pick up on both the social security database and the 3 credit bureaus

joetnymedic
08-07-2008, 08:13 PM
there are a few charles smiths same age in baltimore but not sure if it's him

nothing even close age wise on james frederick


clark m and clark mills rockefeller are n/g not even a hit in the whole u.s.

just for the heck of it a ran the wife sandra boss got a few hits they are definitely her get the locations although i'm not sure of dates -
nantuckey, ma
cambridge, ma
NY, NY
Dallas, TX
Seattle, WA

now 2 things 1 is fact the other is just a theory. Fact - She has no relatives listed whatsoever either in any location
Theory, which is why I put it in red. Is it possible that at some time while he was working in NY under his Crowe persona, could he have spotted Boss and followed her to MA when he fled? I know he hit on the sister first, but is it just a possibility he knew what he was doing all along.

The other thing - Having worked the streets for 22 years as an emt and a medic in both the bridgeport area and various areas in NY that aren't so hot either. I can kind of gauge people. What I'm thinking is that this guy, whoever he turns out being, Is on the run, he settles down with Boss, to a degree draws some attn to himself, but not an enormous amount, just enough, and who is going to go up a Rockefeller with the possibility they are related as he hinted. he and now he and Boss have a little girl who he dotes on. Boss is probably supporting him and finally has enough.She files for divorce. Now to a degree since 1995 he drops his guard just a bit and falls into the family man position, hasn't got in any legal trouble so his prints haven't come back. Everyone is looking for Chichester and Crowe and whatever aliases he was using back then. And like I said who is going to question a Rockefeller unless something happens. Now Boss to a degree figures out, probably a bit ago that he is not really a rockefeller or not really a relative. She brings this up during the divorce proceedings. Now here's the delema. From 1993 - 2007 he really wasn't drawing all that much attention to himself. Now the court case has a possibility of having his entire past expopsed, so to a degree he has the fight or flight impulse. His perfect family is gone and he at least wants his daughter because of the bond. So what's he do? He kills 2 birds with 1 stone. He gives up custody of his daughter with the intention from the very beginning of snatching her back and gets 800,000.00 from Boss which basically funds at least part of his operation. As he had fled the paw before and got away, he didn't anticipate a few things. One, that he would draw national attention, hence getting away from MA and the amber alert and going to New York, an area he was familiar with and then making his way to Baltimore and area he was gaining familiararity with. Who's going to look for me in Baltimore? So the national attention threw him off. In addition, he thought he had left a clean trail as usual behind. He probably thought as the police were looking for Clark Rockefeller, they wouldn't go through any of the vehicles with a fine toothed comb. In addition to the fingerprint, I am sure Sandra Boss brought the aliases to light, etc, which caused somewhat the national exposure, however, I think once that print came back and his cover is totally blown, everything kicks into high gear as the real cause behind the full nationwide/global manhunt. He's already in MD, he already knows he's hot. To a degree probably thinks that if he lays low at the apartment and doesn't run again nobody will know he's there. nobody will see them. the realtor and the marina get a hold of PD or FBI and he's caught. Like I said it's just a theory. Long winded I know but a theory. Plus he may have actually realized he was going to get caught and figured just stay there and wait and actually stop running. The reason he was so cheerful with the media was he was still getting the attention he craves. Sorry like I said but like i said it's a theory.

Joe

joetnymedic
08-07-2008, 08:18 PM
I have been following the Rockefeller/Chichester case for a bit now. other than the fact he may have been an exchange student living in Berlin, CT in the late 70's or early 80's are you aware that he has a so called aunt whom he was very close to? her name is Hedi Leistner she is a pediatrician in both Riverside, CT and Manhattan. here's a coincidence too. she just happens to live at XXXXXXXXX in Greenwich, CT. Where did the Crowe/Chichester car incident happen - Greenwich, CT. I'm thinking he was visiting his so called aunt at the time. Anyway's tracked down a number which is supposed to be at her home which is unlisted but anyway's here it is XXX-XXX-XXXX. Hope this helps you out. And from everything presented so far, prints, photos, even his profile all 3 of them, this has got to be the same guy. I think with the little hints he's dropping about possibly living in California at some time, etc. He's dropping just enough info to play cat and mouse with the cops. I really think this is all a game to him. Look he's going away for awhile just on the Boston charges and he knows it. What does it matter if he plays games. Eventually they'll get their connection and he'll be extradited to California and he'll be found guilty, but right now, what's he really got to lose.

joetnymedic
08-07-2008, 08:21 PM
Rockefeller once used Son Of Sam’s Social Security Number
August 7, 2008 | 11:59 am

Also posed as USC student in 1980s


Copyright © 2008 by Dave Copeland. All Rights reserved. Attribute all references to Dave Copeland.

Legendary vulture capitalist Stan Phelps fired Christopher Crowe — now believed to be the same man being held under the name Clark Rockefeller in Boston for abducting his seven year old daughter — for submitting a securities license application that used the social security number of David Berkowitz.

“Stan called me and said ‘You got to fire this guy’,” said one of Crowe’s former co-workers at Nikko Securities International, where he went to work after being fired by Phelps. Phelps “told me when he put the guy’s social security number through, it came back as David Berkowitz…I’m not sure if it was the same guy as Son of Sam, but it was strange.”

The source talked about working with Crowe with Dave Copeland, author of Blood and Volume: Inside New York’s Israeli Mafia. Copeland was the first to report that Crowe posed as a Wall Street trader. His reporting raises new questions on how Crowe was able to skirt the tight background Securities and Exchange Commission requirements for employees of investment firms. In addition to working for Phelps and Nikko, Crowe worked briefly for Kidder Peabody.

The job at Kidder Peabody ended suddenly when Crowe told his supervisor he needed a leave of absence to travel to South America, where his parents had been kidnapped and where he needed to pay a ransom. Crowe — who is believed to be he same man as Rockefeller — was fired and never heard from again.

But one day later, two sources told Copeland, a FBI agent and a Connecticut State Police officer arrived at the offices of both Nikko and Kidder Peabody, looking to question Crowe about his possession of the truck of John Sohus. This week fingerprints matched Rockefeller to Christopher Chichester, a man listed by the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department as a “person of interest” in the 1985 disappernce of Sohus and his wife, Linda.

The source Copeland interviewed Thursday morning said Crowe once threatened a co-worker by saying “The next time you touch something on my desk, I’ll bring in my German Luger.” He also confirmed a previously reported story by Copeland that Crowe claimed to be the director Christopher Crowe, as well as hinting to links to European nobility.

“He affected this accent — I could never tell if it was that of a European national or German,” he said. “I just always assumed he was a German national.”

Meanwhile, Copeland learned Thursday that Rockefeller — under his Chichester persona — posed as a University of Southern California student in 1983 and 1984 and claimed that he was the Baronet of Chichester. Crowe also claimed he was the grandson of Sir Francis Chichester, the first person to sail single-handed around the world by the clipper route

joetnymedic
08-07-2008, 10:35 PM
I got some additional info like the biz school and high school researching some more. So here it is. I think it's pretty accurate and mostly complete:

1961 Christian Karl Gerhartstieter is born in Germany

1978 attends and graduates Business School in Germany

1979-1981 Shows up in Berlin as Exchange Student. Attends Berlin High School Graduates 1981 as an average student except for history and sociology ( other students say they believe he was older than the 17 years old he said he was) First lived with the Savio Family until he was kicked out for locking their young daughter outside for 4 hours in the dead of winter. Then moves in with librarian he befriended until he is kicked out for running up a large phone bill (which he did pay back) Some time later he contacts Mrs. Savio and tells her he is producing films under the name Christopher Crowe.

1981 - Moves to Madison, Wisconsonson marries Amy Jersild, gets his green card. Marriage license gives parents names as Simon and Irmengard Gehartsreiter.

1983 - Divorces Jersild, moves to Cailifornia

1983-1985 Poses as University of California Student under his Christopher Chichester name. Moves into the Guest house of John and Linda Sohus and his mother "Didi". In San Marino, CA

Feb. 1985 John and Linda disappear. Mother says a 3rd party, which she later said was Chichester, had been acting as a go between and that he advised her that they were on a secret mission for the government.
By April Chichester is gone.

1985 Shows up in Greenwich at the Indian Harbor Yacht Club. Gets hired at S.N. Phelps and Company a brokerage firm. Quits for unknown reasons.

1987-1989 Works under the name Christopher Crowe at Nikko Securities International in NYC. Fired for incompetence. (It is also discovered that "Crowe used the social security number of Son of Sam killer, David Berkowitz)

1988- Tries to sell a truck belonging to John Sohus to a Greenwich, CT ministers son. When the purchaser tries to register the truck at DMV he finds out that there is a lien against the truck. "chichester" under his "Crowe" persona cannot come up with paperwork and the purchaser reports the incident to Greenwich Police. A VIN check is done and the vehicle comes back as wanted in connection to the John and Linda Sohus missing person case in California"

1989 - Lands a job at Kidder Peabody as an International Sales Manager fired 2 weeks later after he requests time of to find his "parents who were kidnapped and held for ransom" Two days later Connecticut State Police and FBI show up at both jobs looking for "Chichester" in connection with the John and Linda Sohus disappearance. Police have discovered that Chichester and Crowe are one in the same.

1988- Didi Sohus dies of a heart attack believing her son is on a mission for the govt.

1989-1993 Lives in NY under unknown alias, meets Sandra Boss and her sister, tries to date, pursue the sister and is rebuffed. Turns his attention to Sandra.

1993 Is dating Sandra Boss as Clark Rockefeller it is unknown if they are in Boston at this point in time or NY.

1994 a pool company doing an in ground pool installation discovers bones in the rear of the Sohus property which has been sold to another family. The bones are tentatively identified as John Sohus, Linda is not found on the property. A homicide investigation ensues and police begin looking for Christopher Chichester again this time as a person of interest.

1995 - Clark Rockefeller and Sandra Boss marry in a small ceremony on Nantucket. Sandra states Clark will handle the paperwork which is never turned in. The couple live in a Brownstone in Boston.

2001 - Reigh Rockefeller is born.

2002 - Rockefeller and Boss purchase a mansion in Cornish, New Hampshire

2004 - Rockefeller suggests and wins his wife over and purchases a renovated church in Cornish for $1.00 promising to donate a large sum of money to rebuild the police department.

2006 - Boss buys 2.3 million dollar Boston Brownstone

Jan 17, 2008 - Boss files for divorce. In the paperwork she brings up the fact that she does not know who Clark Rockefeller really is. Rockefeller is supposed to bring his birth certificate to court but never does.

December 2007 - The Boss/Rockefeller divorce is finalized after Boss agrees to pay between $800,000 and 1.5 million dollars to Clark Rockefeller in exchange for full custody of Reigh. Rockefeller never has to disclose his name as part of the agreement. The court orders Rockefeller 3 supervised visits a year. Boss changes Reighs name to Reigh Boss.

Late 2007 - Rockefeller contacts a realtor in Baltimore, MD and as "chip" Smith starts looking for a place for himself and his daughter to live.

December 2007 - Rockefeller tells a friend how much he misses Reigh and says "I may have to Kidnap her". He has already been working on a plan possibly since 2006.

April 2008 - Finalizes purchase of carriage house on Ploy St in Baltimore.

July 27, 2008 - Kidnaps Reigh during supervised visit. Drags social worker while fleeing with person he told that the worker was his estranged gay lover. Driver is paid $1000.00 to transport Rockefeller and Reigh to another location in Mass. Amber alert issued as Reigh is determined to be in danger.

July 28, 2008 Rockefeller arrives in New York by Grand Central station after paying another acquaintance $500.00 to drive him to New York from Mass. Tells acquaintance he is going to the Peru or Bahamas with Reigh and asks if she wants to join them. After dropping them off she learns that Rockefeller has abducted Reigh and goes to the Police Department in NY.

July 28 - Aug 1, 2008 - Multi State manhunt for Rockefeller and Reigh, multiple sighting but none pan out. Getaway vehicle is found and examined by Police investigators. Police report they have found a clue but do not elaborate.

Aug 2, 2008 - Police and FBI stake out the carriage house after being tipped off by the realtors. They watch from an apartment and on the street. Rockefellers boat has been found docked nearby and investigators along with the marina operator devise a ploy to coax Rockefeller out saying that his boat is taking on water. Rockefeller is apprehended Reigh is found inside the carriage house unharmed.

Aug. 4th - Rockefeller waives extradition to Boston.

Aug 5th - Rockefeller is flown back to Boston and is arraigned and held without bail. he is also named as a person of interest in the Sohus homicide/missing persons case. Police release the fact that a fingerprint lifted from the getaway vehicle was identified as belonging to Chistopher Crowe from an application to become a stockbroker which was filed. as well as Chritopher Chichester who is wanted as a person of intrest in a homicide probe in San Marino, CA, as well as numerous phone tips have shown that Rockefeller may be Christopher Chichester. The print also comes back to immigration paperwork filed in the late 70's for Christian Gerhartsreiter, connecting the three.

Aug 6th - Investigators from the L. A. County Homicide Unit try to interview Rockefeller but he refuses.

Rieder
08-08-2008, 05:30 AM
The Boston Globe believes the identity of Clark Rockefeller is Christian Karl Gerhartstreiter. Gerhartstreiter was born in 1961 in Germany and travelled to the United States as a foreign exchange student in the late 1970s. He attended high school in Connecticut. In the early 1980s he travelled to Wisconsin and married Amy Jersild. After the brief marriage he travelled to San Marino, California and assumed the identity of Christopher Chichester.

It seems the image of intelligence, sophistication and authority was a facade. Its unlikely he studied at Yale University or any other university. His stockbroking career was short and unsuccessful.

Rieder
08-08-2008, 05:39 AM
The Boston Globe article discussing the identity of Clark Rockefeller can be found below:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/08/08/many_layered_identity_is_emerging/?page=full

slasherman
08-09-2008, 03:44 PM
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/VH1975/1dc90665b5_clark08062008.jpg
He got the eyes of a killer = guilty
The first time I saw that old picture on UM I knew he had killed them...

sdb4884
12-23-2009, 11:00 AM
very intriging case

Mastermind
12-23-2009, 01:28 PM
He got the eyes of a killer = guilty

Huh? Personally I think he's got the eyes of Woody Allen!!!:lol:

Personally I think the cleft chin is more of a reliable sign of his inherent evil!:crazy:

WishfulDreamer
12-24-2009, 08:40 PM
This case is so perplexing. I've always thought that maybe the theory about the wife being abducted and the husband being killed sounded plausible, but of course without positive identification it's hard to uncover anything. This case still gives me chills.

mattc
01-24-2010, 06:34 PM
What an amazing case! I had just watched the segment again, and came here and, of course, discovered this whole development.. great, GREAT sleuth work, by the way!!!!!!!!! This is why I love this website.

So, we still have no idea if he was ever charged with the murder of John Sohus? What worries me is that, with his kidnapping charge, he is probably not going to be in prison too long, and I fear that this murderer will get away with the crime due to John's mother being dead, as well as his refusal to talk.

What do people think? Based on the evidence we know, do we think that it's enough to go to trial?

1) The body found in the backyard being most likely that of John's (not sure if DNA has been able to conclusively say this or not), although we all know it is John.
2) The luminol detecting a large amount of blood and clean up in the very guest house in which Chichester was staying when John and Linda disappeared.
3) The fact that Chichester was in possession of John's truck, and tried to sell it without papers to a guy in CT.
4) A pattern of lying and breaking the law.
5) The fact that Chichester told John's mother that John and Linda were out of town when, in fact, at least John was buried in the backyard the whole time (not sure if this would be admissible since she is dead now and can't testify, but I'm sure there must be notes from police questioning her).

Am I missing anything?

There's got to be a creative way to nail this guy.

I actually don't think Linda is still alive, and I don't think she ever made it to France. Since Chichester is obviously a brilliant con, how is it not possible that he simply did a great job copying Linda's handwriting and had someone mail the postcards from France (or perhaps he did it himself). Or, perhaps they both did go to France, and he killed her over there.

I don't think she's still over there living another life.

Any more thoughts. This is by far one of the most interesting cases on UM.

Apostapler
01-25-2010, 12:35 AM
I think they're still working on this guy for the kidnapping case. If he goes to jail, they have ample time to charge him for John Sohus' murder. I haven't found any information that says they've positively identified the skeleton as John's. As well all know, there weren't dental records for John. DNA would be a possibility if they could extract it from the bones.

Also, I found this article from 2008. Someone got their tips from us! lol

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/17108571/detail.html

mattc
01-25-2010, 09:35 AM
Wow! Hadn't seen that post before... thanks for sending it. I hope the posters sited were able to check it out! That's really cool that our board was quoted.

It amazes me how much information can come out just by talking it through and discussing... I'm glad they found this guy, and I hope that one day we will know what happened to Linda, for her friends and family's sake.

Apostapler
01-25-2010, 11:17 AM
I'm so rude, here everybody:

Unsolved Calif. Case Long A Dark 'Net Mystery
Internet Bloggers Have Posted Theories For Years

POSTED: 8:56 am EDT August 6, 2008
UPDATED: 11:57 am EDT August 6, 2008


BOSTON -- Internet aficionados of unsolved mysteries have long followed the Sohus disappearance case, a decades-old disappearance about which police now want to question Clark Rockefeller.

The former San Marino police chief said Rockefeller's fingerprints match those of Christopher Chichester, a person who knew California couple John and Linda Sohus before they mysteriously disappeared in 1985.

"Anyone remember this case? Really odd, probably one the strangest dissapperances (sic). Linda and John were supposed to go on some trip and ended up and europe and never were heard or seen again," Web site poster Boodie23 wrote in 2002 on the www.sitcomsonline.com message board following an episode of the television program "Unsolved Mysteries."

"I remember this case. They found a body buried in the backyard many years later didn't they? And didn't they say it was probably John? It's been a while, but I remember this case," forum poster Brent88 wrote a year later.

Rockefeller, 48, was arrested in Baltimore Sunday, charged with kidnapping and assault and battery in connection with the alleged abduction of his daughter, Reigh "Snooks" Storrow Boss, 7, from a Boston street during a custody visit July 27.

He and the child's mother, Sandra Lynn Boss, were divorced in 2007 after a 13-year marriage in which they lived in Boston's posh Beacon Hill neighborhood and kept a vacation mansion in New Hampshire.

Divorce records indicated that Rockefeller gave up custody of the child rather than reveal his true identity.

Now, homicide detectives from California want to know whether Rockefeller is really Chichester, a man linked to the Sohus case through fingerprints Chichester once provided on a driver's license application.

A Pasadena, Calif., newspaper reported that Chichester rented an apartment from the Sohus couple before their 1985 disappearance. Some time later, postcards allegedly from the couple arrived from Europe.

Then, in 1994, a crew digging near a swimming pool in the Sohus house back yard discovered bones that may have belonged to John Sohus. DNA from the bones was never tested.

Chichester also left the area, turning up in the late 1980s in Connecticut driving a truck registered to John Sohus.

Posters on the Unsolved Mysteries Web site have blogged about their theories on the case for years.

"Some of the couple's relatives received strange postcards from Linda and John saying that are bad at geograpy and they some how ended up in France. There is also a man, forgot his name, that is a suspect. He supposedly sold John Sohas's pick-up truck after the disappearance. I wonder if this missing persons case is closed or open. I hope it's open because just because this happened almost 20 years ago doesn't mean that it should'nt be solved. Don't you agree?" poster UMFan77 wrote in 2003.

Another wrote, "I asked the same question under the post of Christopher Chichester. Christopher Chichester is a pseudonym for Christian Gerhard Streider a German citizen who is considered a suspect in the disappearance of John and Linda Sohos," said poster Rieder, from Australia, in 2003.

Another poster identified as Crystaldawn wrote in 2002 that Linda Sohus' maiden name was Linda Mayfield. She said Mayfield worked in a Los Angeles science fantasy bookstore until meeting and marrying John Sohus, described as a quiet, "nerdy guy."

"Shortly after Linda married this Sohus guy, things went south. Linda Mayfield Sohus quit her bookstore job. Soon, she and her husband disappeared. The bookstore owner, Lydia Marano, got a postcard from Linda & John saying that they were in France. They never returned," Crystaldawn wrote in the post.

She goes on to write, "John’s alcoholic mother, Didi, had claimed that John and Linda’s former tenant Christopher Chichester was providing her with exclusive information that John and Linda were on a top secret “mission”. Then just as mysteriously Chichester broke off contact and he too vanished. In a final bizarre twist in May of 1994 the remains of John Sohus were found buried underground on his own property.”

mozartpc27
01-25-2010, 04:25 PM
Wow, we're famous!

sdb4884
08-18-2010, 01:38 AM
Wow that Australian poster was smart :)

TracyLynnS
08-19-2010, 08:43 AM
I can't believe how much info that was reported in an official boston tv news article was actually quoted word for word from an obscure little internet message board. Or at least it used to be obscure...

Would that even be considered real journalism? That's a two year old article. I don't think I've ever seen a news report so heavily based on anonymous online discussions before or since.

And what about Reider from australia? He cracked the whole case way back in 2003...

Kyte
08-20-2010, 09:09 AM
...So what happened to Chichester?

Did he get convicted of anything and did he ever tell the authorities what happened to the Sohus couple?

TracyLynnS
08-20-2010, 10:19 AM
An article (linked below) stated that he was convicted of kidnapping his daughter, assault and battery with a dangerous weapon (the social worker who tried to stop the abduction was dragged by the car), and was acquitted on one assault count and of giving cops a fake name. There were a total of four charges and he was convicted on two of them.

His real full name is Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter. He conveniently has a lot of amnesia and at the time the article was written, was a person of interest in the Sohus case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/12/2009-06-12_christian_karl_gerhartsreiter_aka_clark_rockeffer_found_guilty_of_kidnapping.html

TracyLynnS
08-20-2010, 10:36 AM
His sentence was 4 to 5 years. I wonder if the CA authorities are working on his connection to the Sohus murder and disappearance. He'll be out of prison in just a few years. If they can't get some other charges to hold him on, I think he'll disappear as soon as he's released.

crochetbuff
08-20-2010, 10:56 AM
His sentence was 4 to 5 years. I wonder if the CA authorities are working on his connection to the Sohus murder and disappearance. He'll be out of prison in just a few years. If they can't get some other charges to hold him on, I think he'll disappear as soon as he's released.

I think that's what they are doing. They could probably already bring a case against him. John and Linda both went missing, Gerhartsreiter was living there. They have bones found on the property, identified as male. I think there was clothing with the bones that was identified as John Sohus'. Gerhartsreiter had their truck and had fled. I think a jury would convict on that even without a DNA match (because John Sohus was adopted they don't have DNA to compare the bones with). Also some postcards that could probably be analyzed for handwriting comparisons to Linda or Gerhartsreiter.

So hopefully they'll come up with another few pieces and bring charges soon.

crochetbuff
08-20-2010, 11:05 AM
More recent article:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/05/rockefeller_cha.html

crochetbuff
08-20-2010, 11:13 AM
Anotehr article, a little more about the Sohus case:
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_15190480

Drakken
08-20-2010, 04:51 PM
I think that's what they are doing. They could probably already bring a case against him. John and Linda both went missing, Gerhartsreiter was living there. They have bones found on the property, identified as male. I think there was clothing with the bones that was identified as John Sohus'. Gerhartsreiter had their truck and had fled. I think a jury would convict on that even without a DNA match (because John Sohus was adopted they don't have DNA to compare the bones with). Also some postcards that could probably be analyzed for handwriting comparisons to Linda or Gerhartsreiter.

So hopefully they'll come up with another few pieces and bring charges soon.

The problem is that there is nothing linking Gerhartsreiter directly to John Sohus' death. All we know is that someone human bled to death in that room, that John Sohus' body (and oddly not Linda's) was found buried and cut in pieces, that Gerhartsreiter lived with them and was part to a concocted story about the couple being in a mission, and Gerhartsreiter trying to sell John's truck. Suspicious, but hardly proof of conspiracy to commit murder.

All the evidence we have is circumstancial. For all we know, it might have been Linda Sohus who killed her husband, and Gerhartsreiter acted as an accomplice or an accessory to the fact. Given that the latter isn't talking and we do not know the whereabouts of Linda Sohus, it might prove very hard to crack since they'll need to rely on physical evidence.

crochetbuff
08-20-2010, 11:54 PM
The problem is that there is nothing linking Gerhartsreiter directly to John Sohus' death. All we know is that someone human bled to death in that room, that John Sohus' body (and oddly not Linda's) was found buried and cut in pieces, that Gerhartsreiter lived with them and was part to a concocted story about the couple being in a mission, and Gerhartsreiter trying to sell John's truck. Suspicious, but hardly proof of conspiracy to commit murder.

All the evidence we have is circumstancial. For all we know, it might have been Linda Sohus who killed her husband, and Gerhartsreiter acted as an accomplice or an accessory to the fact. Given that the latter isn't talking and we do not know the whereabouts of Linda Sohus, it might prove very hard to crack since they'll need to rely on physical evidence.


Yes, tough case! It'll be interesting to see what happens... I've seen people convicted with less connective evidence. It'll be close if they don't have anything more than we know about. He's at the least an accomplice.

Drakken
08-26-2010, 11:03 AM
Yes, tough case! It'll be interesting to see what happens... I've seen people convicted with less connective evidence. It'll be close if they don't have anything more than we know about. He's at the least an accomplice.

Which, I suspect, might have been Linda. I find it really puzzling that her body wasn't found on the same spot, which suggests that she was still alive when John died and was cut to pieces.

The problem is the reasonable doubt threshold. The prosecution could create an overwhelming theory of how Gerhartsreiter could have been the killer, and all the defense has to do is, "replace my client with Linda Sohus and it is just the same. Nothing links my client to John Sohus' death", Gerhartsreiter would be acquitted and double jeopardy kicks in.