View Full Version : BETis already screwing up ADW, LOL. Tonight the 11pm episode is........


TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 08:31 PM
from like season 3 or 4-"Claire's Last stand" Now I know that Phlylicia Rashad didn't start appearing on ADW until 1989 so I know BET has already screwed up-lol

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 08:35 PM
She made 4 appearances on the show. Starting in 1988 with Claire's Last Stand. :lol:

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 08:46 PM
She made 4 appearances on the show. Starting in 1988 with Claire's Last Stand. :lol:

But BET just started airing the show on the 26th of April which means, wait a minute-lol Ok I thought she started appearing in the fall of 88 so maybe they are on pace-lol

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 08:51 PM
I have been watching the show. Yes, they are on track. So far. :lol:

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 09:04 PM
I have been watching the show. Yes, they are on track. So far. :lol:


So I missed the guest the appearance by grandpa huxtable-lol

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 09:11 PM
Thankfully, yes. :rofl: I changed the channel quick!

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 09:24 PM
Thankfully, yes. :rofl: I changed the channel quick!


I may watch the 11pm ep tonight

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 09:26 PM
I can't wait for the Lisa Bonet episodes to be done. :lol:

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 09:35 PM
I can't wait for the Lisa Bonet episodes to be done. :lol:


They will be this time next week

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 09:45 PM
I know. :party:

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 10:45 PM
the Lisa Bonet episodes are undoubtly the worst season. Lisa getting pregnant and leaving was prolly the best thing for this series.

Claire's Last Stand was actually filmed early on, but was held back for some reason. Look at how the cast is sorta different just for that episode--no Loretta Devine or Mary Alice.

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 10:47 PM
Oh don't get me started on Mary Alice. Another person I was glad to see leave ADW. You are so right abt that Lisa comment. She was so bland in this show and it was hard to see a character go from brains to duh!

One moment she is explaining Shakespeare to Theo and Cockroach the next, she is some dumb college student.

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 10:51 PM
Remember Mary Alice in that episode on GT about her wanting to give her baby for adoption? I really can't stand that episode.

I did like the fact that Dwayne Wayne was brought to The Cosby Show for that one episode--so in effect it wraps up Lisa's storyline started on ADW.

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 10:53 PM
I think Solomon hates that GT episode too. He said it didn't make sense to bring on characters we never saw before.

I don't agree with that. We needed to see other characters, not just the Evans'. But that episode was just too hard to imagine and enjoy. I roll my eyes at it because Thelma's dramatics were annoying :lol:

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 10:55 PM
That would be "Thaaaaaaaalma" :D

ThomasE
05-05-2008, 11:06 PM
the Lisa Bonet episodes are undoubtly the worst season. Lisa getting pregnant and leaving was prolly the best thing for this series.

Claire's Last Stand was actually filmed early on, but was held back for some reason. Look at how the cast is sorta different just for that episode--no Loretta Devine or Mary Alice.


I loved Lisa on ADW. I do not think that Lisa is responsible for the following:

The awful transition music
The writing/storylines
Some of the characters that did not click.
The lighting of the scenery

Even some of the actors admitted to Anne Beats being the problem and the problem for season one. I do not blame Lisa for that. If Debbie had creative control at the time, the show would have been good with Lisa IMO.

Anne Beatts has a black college Square Pegs thing going. :rolleyes:

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 11:06 PM
the Lisa Bonet episodes are undoubtly the worst season. Lisa getting pregnant and leaving was prolly the best thing for this series.

Claire's Last Stand was actually filmed early on, but was held back for some reason. Look at how the cast is sorta different just for that episode--no Loretta Devine or Mary Alice.


So what's your reason Jude for not liking the 1st season?

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:09 PM
I loved Lisa on ADW. I do not think that Lisa is responsible for the following:

The awful transition music
The writing/storylines
Some of the characters that did not click.
The lighting of the scenery

Even some of the actors admitted to Anne Beats being the problem and the problem for season one. I do not blame Lisa for that. If Debbie had creative control at the time, the show would have been good with Lisa IMO.

Anne Beatts has a black college Square Pegs thing going. :rolleyes:
:clap: That is a great way of putting it Thomas. Thank you. I did not get the feeling at all that Hillman was a black college at all. With Marisa Tomei and the few whites sprinkled around, it was just horrible. I felt like Cosby (as usual) had to have this rainbow effect in all his shows just to show some sort of "equality". You would always see all kinds of races in his shows, which is a good thing, but not if you have a show abt an ALL BLACK COLLEGE. Am I right or wrong?

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 11:10 PM
I'm watching the ep now and I don't think I ever seen it before

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 11:14 PM
Not that I hate the first season. It was just uneven a lot of the times. Lisa's character was like a lot of spinoff syndrome victims--the character doesn't resemble what she was on the original show :lol:

And for Thomas--I don't blame Lisa for all those things. I just think her leaving was the shot in the arm the show needed to take off and not just be "The Cosby Show II: College Life with Denise" :)

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:18 PM
I also did not like the visits by Claire, Rudy or Grandpa Huxtable. I loved ADW after Lisa. It needed a face-lift in so many ways and Debbie was the genius behind all of that.

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 11:20 PM
I also did not like the visits by Claire, Rudy or Grandpa Huxtable. I loved ADW after Lisa. It needed a face-lift in so many ways and Debbie was the genius behind all of that.


What was wrong with the Cosby visits?

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 11:22 PM
Not that I hate the first season. It was just uneven a lot of the times. Lisa's character was like a lot of spinoff syndrome victims--the character doesn't resemble what she was on the original show :lol:

And for Thomas--I don't blame Lisa for all those things. I just think her leaving was the shot in the arm the show needed to take off and not just be "The Cosby Show II: College Life with Denise" :)



So basically the show seemed like less of a spinoff after season 1 and more like a new show with no connection to The cosby show?

ThomasE
05-05-2008, 11:22 PM
:clap: That is a great way of putting it Thomas. Thank you. I did not get the feeling at all that Hillman was a black college at all. With Marisa Tomei and the few whites sprinkled around, it was just horrible. I felt like Cosby (as usual) had to have this rainbow effect in all his shows just to show some sort of "equality". You would always see all kinds of races in his shows, which is a good thing, but not if you have a show abt an ALL BLACK COLLEGE. Am I right or wrong?


True. I have no problem with that. I should have said predominant black college. Phylicia said to Mr. Cosby after her trip to do the episode that "things were not right on set and your name is on this project". Bill wanted Phylicia to do some cleaning up. He wound up using her sister Debbie. Debbie did not fire anyone. Head Honchos let Marisa go (which I thought was a huge mistake).

The first season is still one of my faves but some eps like Denise having a crush on David Alan Grier's character was pointless boring to the bone. Anne was using basic, safe material to do episode. Pointless crushes, egg sitting(although I liked the episode) and others were just ridiculous versus racism, sexual tension, politics, step competition rivalries.

Whether Lisa was there or not, the show would have improved under Debbie's guidance. The cast was much happier and they were able to voice their opinions about storylines.

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:25 PM
What was wrong with the Cosby visits?
They were dull and not necessary. ADW was Lisa's show, but it proved after Lisa was gone that the show could and it did, stand up on its own.

Brieannas21
05-05-2008, 11:26 PM
What was wrong with the Cosby visits?


They were boring. The only one that wasn't boring was when Claire visited the College after Denise left had left.

ThomasE
05-05-2008, 11:27 PM
Not that I hate the first season. It was just uneven a lot of the times. Lisa's character was like a lot of spinoff syndrome victims--the character doesn't resemble what she was on the original show :lol:

And for Thomas--I don't blame Lisa for all those things. I just think her leaving was the shot in the arm the show needed to take off and not just be "The Cosby Show II: College Life with Denise" :)


:D Very good point, but I still think that it could have been done. I wish Lisa had not gotten pregnant at that time. She would have continued with success. Don't hate me ya'll but I love the crossover episodes Do you think that Claire would have gotten along with Marian or Adele or both :(

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 11:29 PM
I didn't mind the Cosby visits to keep the connection there--in fact ADW did that better than a lot of spinoffs that forget their roots.

I also love the theme song version by Phoebe Snow.

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:30 PM
Phoebe also did the closing theme song for the finale of ROSEANNE.

ThomasE
05-05-2008, 11:33 PM
I like the theme too. Some of that transitional music was depressing or just ewww!

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 11:33 PM
I still have the K-tel Music Express LP with Phoebe's "Poetry Man" :lol:

TVFactFan
05-05-2008, 11:33 PM
They were boring. The only one that wasn't boring was when Claire visited the College after Denise left had left.


So you didn't like the Cosby crossovers when Vanessa and Theo visited??


Now I will agree the appearance by Rudy shouldhave never happened, or by Grandpa Huxtable

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:33 PM
Ok, sue me but what do you mean transitional music?

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:35 PM
I still have the K-tel Music Express LP with Phoebe's "Poetry Man" :lol:
OMG!!!! SO DO I !!!! :rofl: I was a big buyer of those K-tel albums.

Brieannas21
05-05-2008, 11:38 PM
So you didn't like the Cosby crossovers when Vanessa and Theo visited??


Now I will agree the appearance by Rudy shouldhave never happened, or by Grandpa Huxtable


Nope I didn't like them at all. They were just boring to me. I really don't like the first season at all.

ThomasE
05-05-2008, 11:38 PM
Ok, sue me but what do you mean transitional music?


You know the music that you hear when one scene crosses to another hence the "transition" hence transitional music. Some of the music sounded like tacky hawaiian music. Irene, when I critque, I critique everthing. Don't worry, I won't sue this time. I may need you on my side in the future for something else. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:41 PM
You know the music that you hear when one scene crosses to another hence the "transition" hence transitional music. Some of the music sounded like tacky hawaiian music. Irene, when I critque, I critique everthing. Don't worry, I won't sue this time. I may need you on my side in the future for something else. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ah yes, ok. I thought that is what you meant but I wasn't totally sure. I did not want to agree with you and then find out that wasn't what you meant. :rofl:

It sounded drippy that's for sure. :crazy:

And what was up with Kim Wayans being on the show? A few episodes back her brother Keenan was a teacher on there too. Did Bill have them in his pockets or what? :lol:

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 11:43 PM
OMG!!!! SO DO I !!!! :rofl: I was a big buyer of those K-tel albums.

No wonder I'm your pepper brother! :lol:

ThomasE
05-05-2008, 11:44 PM
Ah yes, ok. I thought that is what you meant but I wasn't totally sure. I did not want to agree with you and then find out that wasn't what you meant. :rofl:

It sounded drippy that's for sure. :crazy:

And what was up with Kim Wayans being on the show? A few episodes back her brother Keenan was a teacher on there too. Did Bill have them in his pockets or what? :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: I'll bet they had something on him. They promised not to parody him on ILC. But they broke their promise. :lol:

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:55 PM
No wonder I'm your pepper brother! :lol:
FOR SURE!!!!!!!!! We need a pepper smiley. :lol: :D :cool:

Mr. Television
05-05-2008, 11:55 PM
I didn't even watch the first season in its original run. I was angry that Family Ties was moved off Thursdays so I watched Sledge Hammer and The Charmings ( probably the only one in America who did that). :lol: I saw them in syndication though and they are very subpar. I did start to watch ADW beginning with season 2 and it quickly became one of my favorites. It was better than the later seasons of The Cosby Show IMO.

Ireneparalegal
05-05-2008, 11:56 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: I'll bet they had something on him. They promised not to parody him on ILC. But they broke their promise. :lol:
:rofl:

I couldn't stand seeing Kim on ADW either. Damn, there were too many people during season 1 I could not stand. :lol:

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 11:57 PM
I didn't even watch the first season in its original run. I was angry that Family Ties was moved off Thursdays so I watched Sledge Hammer and The Charmings ( probably the only one in America who did that). :lol: I saw them in syndication though and they are very subpar. I did start to watch ADW beginning with season 2 and it quickly became one of my favorites. It was better than the later seasons of The Cosby Show IMO.


I loved the Charmings--even when they did the Darrin switcheroo on the lead actress! :lol:

Jude The Obscure
05-05-2008, 11:58 PM
FOR SURE!!!!!!!!! We need a pepper smiley. :lol: :D :cool:


Maybe the Cayenne pepper logo from Chili's? :lol:

Ireneparalegal
05-06-2008, 12:00 AM
Maybe the Cayenne pepper logo from Chili's? :lol:
:lol: this will be my next avatar:

Jude The Obscure
05-06-2008, 12:03 AM
SAVED!!!!!!

halleujah :lol:

TVFactFan
05-06-2008, 12:05 AM
:rofl:

I couldn't stand seeing Kim on ADW either. Damn, there were too many people during season 1 I could not stand. :lol:


Kim was added in season 2

Jude The Obscure
05-06-2008, 12:06 AM
See how the 10:30 pm episode ended--it was clearly leading to a Denise/Dwayne Wayne romance. That's one reason I kinda don't like season 1--because the storylines got messed up due to Lisa's being "rebellious" :lol: I agree that the changes made were for the better, but now thinking about it, it would have been nice to see how that relationship would have progressed.

Ireneparalegal
05-06-2008, 12:08 AM
Kim was added in season 2
She played Allison and began in 1987, the year the show began.

TVFactFan
05-06-2008, 12:12 AM
She played Allison and began in 1987, the year the show began.


Are we talking about the same Kim? I'm talking about chunky dark skin Kim who was whitley's roomate in season 2

Ireneparalegal
05-06-2008, 12:13 AM
No, Kim Wayans. She played Allison on the show. She is the sister of Keenan Ivory Wayans.

Jude The Obscure
05-06-2008, 12:15 AM
Are we talking about the same Kim? I'm talking about chunky dark skin Kim who was whitley's roomate in season 2


That's actress Charnele Brown

TVFactFan
05-06-2008, 12:16 AM
No, Kim Wayans. She played Allison on the show. She is the sister of Keenan Ivory Wayans.


Oh ok

Ireneparalegal
05-06-2008, 12:17 AM
That's actress Charnele Brown
I liked her character.

ThomasE
05-06-2008, 07:18 AM
No, Kim Wayans. She played Allison on the show. She is the sister of Keenan Ivory Wayans.

:brent

That struck me as funny for some reason. I was thinking of Kime Reese at first and then I realized that you were talking about Kim W. All of the sudden, I got a mental picture of Benita Buttrail on In Living Color with a scarf over her head in the projects. :lol:

ThomasE
05-08-2008, 09:17 AM
BET is screwing the airing of the shows. I'm sorry that I didn't take the Diff'rent Strokes situation seriously. Why would BET start airing different episodes at 3am in the morning? That is crazy! Just reair the 11pm airings.

djhmetfan2
05-08-2008, 11:50 AM
BET is screwing the airing of the shows. I'm sorry that I didn't take the Diff'rent Strokes situation seriously. Why would BET start airing different episodes at 3am in the morning? That is crazy! Just reair the 11pm airings.


I think the 3am showing ends up reairing at 11pm the following night

ThomasE
05-08-2008, 04:10 PM
Really? Then how is BET zooming through the episodes so quickly? Last week, the show debuted and Monday night is the airing of "Claire's Last Stand" and then the season finale of the show. Tuesday was the airing of the two leftover episodes from earlier in that season. BET has gotta chill.

ThomasE
05-08-2008, 04:23 PM
the Lisa Bonet episodes are undoubtly the worst season. Lisa getting pregnant and leaving was prolly the best thing for this series.

Claire's Last Stand was actually filmed early on, but was held back for some reason. Look at how the cast is sorta different just for that episode--no Loretta Devine or Mary Alice.

Actually, this episode never held back as far as airing goes. It was filmed in 1988 and Mary Alice was acutally in the episode.

The left over episodes were:

Come back little eggby and My dinner with Theo.

The first season eps that I did not like were:

The ep when Denise runs track. :rolleyes: (bo-ori-ng)

Denise's crush on her professor (I couldn't have cared less) It is hard to take David Alan Grier in a serious role. All the female geology students had a crush on him.

Ireneparalegal
05-08-2008, 10:28 PM
Really? Then how is BET zooming through the episodes so quickly? Last week, the show debuted and Monday night is the airing of "Claire's Last Stand" and then the season finale of the show. Tuesday was the airing of the two leftover episodes from earlier in that season. BET has gotta chill.
I am tired right now to check so what is the actual schedule of ADW? I sometimes see one episode airing at night and other times I see two episodes. I think there are two episodes that air in the middle of the night/morning at 3 a.m.

Brieannas21
05-08-2008, 10:48 PM
I am tired right now to check so what is the actual schedule of ADW? I sometimes see one episode airing at night and other times I see two episodes. I think there are two episodes that air in the middle of the night/morning at 3 a.m.


Yeah they are showing 4 different episodes "a day" at 10pm ct and at 2amct, that's how they are going through the seasons so fast.

Jude The Obscure
05-08-2008, 10:51 PM
Actually, this episode never held back as far as airing goes. It was filmed in 1988 and Mary Alice was acutally in the episode.

The left over episodes were:

Come back little eggby and My dinner with Theo.

The first season eps that I did not like were:

The ep when Denise runs track. :rolleyes: (bo-ori-ng)

Denise's crush on her professor (I couldn't have cared less) It is hard to take David Alan Grier in a serious role. All the female geology students had a crush on him.


I think My DinnerWith Theo was the one I was thinking of. It was like an alternate pilot episode--that is the one with the different cast lineup!

Jude The Obscure
05-08-2008, 10:53 PM
I can understand longer running shows getting this kind of multi-episode a day treatment, but is BET doing that to "Malcolm and Eddie" a 4 season show?

Ireneparalegal
05-08-2008, 11:00 PM
Yeah they are showing 4 different episodes "a day" at 10pm ct and at 2amct, that's how they are going through the seasons so fast.
WTF??? OMG that is so stupid. :mad: Like I am going to watch a show at 2 a.m.!!!

Brieannas21
05-08-2008, 11:09 PM
WTF??? OMG that is so stupid. :mad: Like I am going to watch a show at 2 a.m.!!!


I was up last night until 5am that's how I caught it. I was flipping through the channels and I was like "what the hell." I didn't think that BET would air a sitcom that late at night.

Ireneparalegal
05-08-2008, 11:12 PM
I was up last night until 5am that's how I caught it. I was flipping through the channels and I was like "what the hell." I didn't think that BET would air a sitcom that late at night.
I can understand if it is a REPEAT of the earlier showing, but don't air two episodes that I am going to miss. :crazy: