Is there any new info on this case? For those who don't know the details, here: http://www.unsolved.com/0150-Megan.html

I just searched around the internet, and as far as I could find out, no, there has not been any new breaks in the case. It's a shame...that was such a cruel way for someone to be murdered.

the main suspect that the cops had in the case died after a fall from a water tower. he was an ex boyfriend/husband of megans.

The composite of the killer chills me to the bone. That was pretty brazen of him to kill her after being seen by someone else and to light the place on fire after killing her. I wonder if there were similar crimes like this committed in and around east Texas - Louisiana.

Perhaps we should cast a net around that timeline and see if there were any other crimes comitted like that around that timeline

I wonder if the story Megan's friend told is true.
- She was the only one who saw the car and the stranger.
- She was with Megan in her own apartment that night.
- She went up and stood outside Megans apartment looking in.
-Why was she so worried about Megan that night ?
-Why did'nt anybody else see the stranger and his car ?
-Why was Megan's door locked after the fire ?
-Did the police find any other fingerprints outside Megan's door and inside the apartment ?
-Did they find any hair or other DNA material in Megans apartment ?
-Why was'nt Megan naked if someone intented to rape her ?
-And why was she not raped ? I am pretty sure she was not...

One of my theory's:
Megan and her friend had an lesbian relationship.
Megan's friend suggested bondage cause then the killing would be easier. The bondage thing suggest to me that it was planned and a woman killed Megan not a man. A man would probably not need to tie up his victim to be able to kill. When the friend had killed Megan by slitting her throat twice she could not watch her crime and placed a garbage bag over her head. She could not look at what she had done and wanted to spare herself the image of death. The killer had probably not killed before. The reason for killing Megan was maybe an act of jealosy because Megan had told about her night out meeting other people.
Megan's friend let the bed on fire to hide evidence and maybe it was an act of panic.
(What was used to start the fire some kind of fuel ? If so was it something Megan had in her apartment. If not was it something from her friends apartment ?)
She then locked the door with her own key ? Like she used to do after a late night visit with Megan. Maybe the key Megan used still was in the apartment ? If so it strongly suggest this theory.
I think she made up the story about the stranger and told the police she was outside Megan's apartment cause she knew the fingerprints and footprints was fresh. And maybe somebody else had seen her going up or down the stairs ? Megan's friend would probably fail a lie detector test.

Very interesting. If the friend didn't lie about the guy, why did he kill her and not rape her, unless he just liked to kill? That is if she didn't get raped. If she did get raped, then the theory about the friend being the killer is wrong. So does anyone know if Megan was raped or not?

Very interesting. If the friend didn't lie about the guy, why did he kill her and not rape her, unless he just liked to kill? That is if she didn't get raped. If she did get raped, then the theory about the friend being the killer is wrong. So does anyone know if Megan was raped or not?
If I remember correctly she was not naked she had some kind of kinky underwear on. Probably not raped.

This is one very disturbing case. Whoever killed her must have known her well. Megan's mother said that Megan would not get in a stranger's car unless she knew them well. I get the impression that she was having some sort of fling with one of her ex-boyfriends and something went wrong.

I live in Conroe, Tx, just outside of Houston. This crime took place in Lufkin, Tx which is 2 hours east of here. I have always wondered if the police in Lufkin werent skilled enough in crimes like this due to the fact that this rarely happens there, and thus, missed alot of crucial evidence or overlooked it, causing the killer to get away. Lufkin is a small town right on highway 59. My theory is that some random stranger stopped for the night, met her at the bar and went back to her place afterwards. I think if it had been her ex husband or ex boyfriend, she would have told her neighbor that way she would be less concerned.

I believe the intent was to kill her the whole time. The Electric Cowboy, which is the dance hall Megan was at, has been torn down and a new store has been built in its place. I really hope the killer gets caught, but I highly doubt he ever does considering it happened so long ago and there wasn't much evidence to go on then, much less now.

Why was'nt Megan naked if someone intented to rape her ?

1. Not to be disgusting or graphic, but if you think about it there are plenty ways to rape someone with their clothes on.

2. Megan may have been given the chance to put her clothes back on.

Megan and her friend had an lesbian relationship.
Everything about Megan's background suggests quite the opposite. She had no problem getting men to sleep with her.

Why was Megan's door locked after the fire

To prevent her from escaping. The killer may have left via a window.

A man would probably not need to tie up his victim to be able to kill.
Not necessarily.

1. This may have been role play. A lot of women like to play rape. This may have been role play that went to far.
2. Torturing via cigarette butts is a common technique with tied up women. So is candle wax. Maybe this precipitated the fire.

When the friend had killed Megan by slitting her throat twice she could not watch her crime and placed a garbage bag over her head. She could not look at what she had done and wanted to spare herself the image of death

Blindfolds and masks are common devices in S&M and role play sex. As well as sexual asphyxiation.

I have two theories on this case:
1. Megan engaged in rough sex with some guys she knew. The sex got out of hand and she died as a result. The killer then resorted to covering up the scene. Maybe even set the fire.

2. Some jealous guy may have been tired of Megan's promiscuity and dedcided to teach her a lesson. This may have only started by him scaring and assualting her.

Great ideas, Mastermind! I had never thought of the idea that everything was consensual and then something happened that caused her death and then they panicked to hide the evidence. That actually seems like a real possibility.

In terms of the lesbian angle:

1: I feel that Megan's neighbor was probably extensively quesitoned and initially viewed as a supsect, since she was the last one to see Megan alive; if the neighbor had given any inconsistent statements, or aroused suspicion, I'm sure that the police would have mentioned that she was a suspect. In other words, we can conclude that the police feel that she was not involved.
2: Just to add one thing: The fact that Megan could "get many men to sleep with her" doesn't mean that having a lesbian relationship is out of the question. She could have been bisexual; it certainly seemed that she liked sex, so perhaps she was willing to try anything :)

Seriously though, the idea that things got out of hand is just as likely as the ideas that this was a psychotic, sadistic killing.

A lot of women like to play rape.

Some do, perhaps, but I wouldn't say a lot. :(

I have two theories on this case:
1. Megan engaged in rough sex with some guys she knew. The sex got out of hand and she died as a result. The killer then resorted to covering up the scene. Maybe even set the fire.

I agree to an extent. I believe that she met a guy at the club and invited him back home. I don't believe he intended to murder her or else he would have ran into the bathroom or tried to hide his identity when her neighbor came to the door. But yes, I do believe that the sex got out of hand and he put a bag over her head to choke her, then maybe that didn't work so he cut her throat and set everything on fire to try and conceal the murder. The one question I have is that her neighbor/friend, on camera, said she was very concerned etc.., well if I was that concerned about a friend of mine, I would have written down that person's license plate number that came over to see her if I really did have a bad feeling about it all, as the neighbor claims she had.

I still don't understand why if the neighbor was so concerned about Megan, why didn't she at the very least, write down the license plate number of the car of the person that was in Megan's apartment. I'm not saying he definitely killed her, but it would make for good questioning of that guy as he would have been the last person that saw her alive. I just wonder how much this neighbor actually worried that night. I'm thinking that maybe she was a little concerned but figured it was no big deal and then after Megan was murdered, she felt a ton of remorse and is acting as though she was overly concerned. I mean, if you think about it (and not trying to be mean toward the victim), there were reports that Megan was promiscuous, so if that was the case, what was so outrageous about her meeting a guy at a bar and having him come up to her place, that would make the neighbor so uneasy? It just doesn't add up to me.

Any other theories out there on this case?

The neighbour seemed to be someone that wanted to look out for her. Megan probably had a lot of people like that in her life. I don't find it unusual since Megan was described as the type that would need someone to keep an eye on her.

The neighbour seemed to be someone that wanted to look out for her. Megan probably had a lot of people like that in her life. I don't find it unusual since Megan was described as the type that would need someone to keep an eye on her.

I dont find it unusual either. I just think its weird that if she was really that suspicious over the guy in the car, then why did she write down the license plate number?

Hambone: I think this is one of those situations were, if the friend had it to do over again, she may have acted differently, but on the actual night, she did what she thought was best.

Actually, I felt that the friend did MORE than enough to check on her friend. She did go to Megan's door to check on her at 1am, which seems like a nice thing to do. I can't imagine thinking of writing down someone's license plate number, especially since Megan said she was fine. Plus, remember it was dark outside... I doubt the neighbor could even see the car's license plate from the second floor balcony.

My theory is that, given Megan's mild-retardation, she probably was very friendly and open with strangers (less guarded and jaded than most of us), and met some guy at one of the bars. The segment said she was dancing provocatively, which perhaps made her an easy target for a psycho. I think Megan probably gave the guy her address, or wrote it down for him, and then he came to the apartment with the intention of murdering her.

Perhaps she wasn't fully undressed b/c she started to scream, or something happened that made him feel that he had to kill her before he was able to rape her.

I think if she had known the guy (either an ex or friend), she would not have told her friend that it was "a guy from the club."

Really sad, and I'd love to know some of the details that were not included on the segment. I also am surprised this case has not been solved.

Hambone: I think this is one of those situations were, if the friend had it to do over again, she may have acted differently, but on the actual night, she did what she thought was best.

Actually, I felt that the friend did MORE than enough to check on her friend. She did go to Megan's door to check on her at 1am, which seems like a nice thing to do. I can't imagine thinking of writing down someone's license plate number, especially since Megan said she was fine. Plus, remember it was dark outside... I doubt the neighbor could even see the car's license plate from the second floor balcony.

My theory is that, given Megan's mild-retardation, she probably was very friendly and open with strangers (less guarded and jaded than most of us), and met some guy at one of the bars. The segment said she was dancing provocatively, which perhaps made her an easy target for a psycho. I think Megan probably gave the guy her address, or wrote it down for him, and then he came to the apartment with the intention of murdering her.

Perhaps she wasn't fully undressed b/c she started to scream, or something happened that made him feel that he had to kill her before he was able to rape her.

I think if she had known the guy (either an ex or friend), she would not have told her friend that it was "a guy from the club."

Really sad, and I'd love to know some of the details that were not included on the segment. I also am surprised this case has not been solved.

Refresh my memory, was she raped? I know she was in lingerie and tied to the bed but did they actually find evidence of a rape?

Also, your probably right about the whole license plate thing but the reason I bring it up is because the neighbor kept saying over and over again in the segment how uneasy she felt about this particular person from the get go. She said she had an uneasy feeling when he drove up and wouldn't get out of the car. I don't know. Maybe its just me, but if I were that paranoid or scared of someone, I would at least write down his plate number in case something happened.

Refresh my memory, was she raped? I know she was in lingerie and tied to the bed but did they actually find evidence of a rape?

Was the body too burned to determine?

My theory is that, given Megan's mild-retardation, she probably was very friendly and open with strangers (less guarded and jaded than most of us), and met some guy at one of the bars. The segment said she was dancing provocatively, which perhaps made her an easy target for a psycho. I think Megan probably gave the guy her address, or wrote it down for him, and then he came to the apartment with the intention of murdering her.

I tend to lean a little more to the death being unintentional. That it was rough sex that went too far and escalated into murder.

Was the body too burned to determine?



I tend to lean a little more to the death being unintentional. That it was rough sex that went too far and escalated into murder.

Yeah, I remember you mentioning the idea that it might have been rough sex gone bad... I think that's a plausible theory, along with her being targeted and it being premeditated murder. Two things that stick out:

1) If I recall, no one heard any noise or cries for help, commotion coming from Megan's apartment. Of course, that could be due to it being very late at night, and people were asleep, or it could support the idea that it was intentional, and then something bad happened. Plus, something tells me that the neighbors might have been used to the sounds of sex coming from Megan's apartment ;)

2) I always found it weird that the friend (who, as hambone pointed out) made a point of being so concerned and creeped out by the guy, and yet she went up to Megan's apartment to check on her. I don't know, I would have been a bit scared to go check things out if I was that creeped out by the guy, especially by myself and that late. I wonder if she called first?

Possibly, but still odd.

I tend to lean a little more to the death being unintentional. That it was rough sex that went too far and escalated into murder.


I'm not sure I buy into it being rough sex gone bad. After all, she had a bag around her head and her throat was cut. On top of that, they burned the body. That's overkill. I think she met a dangerous person and was too trusting. I think that they probably did engage in consensual sex and he tied her to the bed. After that, he cut her throat, then put a bag over her head to finish her off. If it was accidental, then whats the point of having the bag over the head and if it was made to look accidental, he should have untied her and taken the bag off before he set it on fire.

Y'know... I kinda like Mastermind's theory of the rough sex gone bad...
could be possible...

However,

The only thing that doesn't fit with that, is her throat had been slit.... twice

Now my only guess would be they were involved in some I dunno, freaky knife play and perhaps someone slipped and accidently cut her?? But twice? And so why then put a plastic bag over her head??

Or let's look at it another way- they're engaged in some kinky, bag-over-the-head asphyxiation and Megan accidently suffocated... but then why slit her throat?

Here's a quote from the UM site:

“She had been suffocated with a plastic bag and her throat had been cut very deeply, two different cuts, one on each side. And then the bed had been set afire. This crime was absolutely the meanest thing I've ever seen one person do to another.”

I wonder if there have been similar style homicides like this in the surrounding area or anywhere else for that matter?

Y'know... I kinda like Mastermind's theory of the rough sex gone bad...
could be possible...

However,

The only thing that doesn't fit with that, is her throat had been slit.... twice

Now my only guess would be they were involved in some I dunno, freaky knife play and perhaps someone slipped and accidently cut her?? But twice? And so why then put a plastic bag over her head??

Or let's look at it another way- they're engaged in some kinky, bag-over-the-head asphyxiation and Megan accidently suffocated... but then why slit her throat?

Here's a quote from the UM site:

“She had been suffocated with a plastic bag and her throat had been cut very deeply, two different cuts, one on each side. And then the bed had been set afire. This crime was absolutely the meanest thing I've ever seen one person do to another.”

I wonder if there have been similar style homicides like this in the surrounding area or anywhere else for that matter?

It just seems too far fetched to me. I think we are oversimplifying this case. I think its murder, plain and simple. Could they have been doing the whole rough sex thing? Absolutely. Could it have gone bad by accident and the killer tried to cover it up with a fire? Possibly. But then why keep her tied to the bed with a bag over her head if you are trying to conceal and accidental murder? It doesn't make sense. I think she was killed and burned to hide any possible DNA that may have been on her.

But then why keep her tied to the bed with a bag over her head if you are trying to conceal and accidental murder? It doesn't make sense. I think she was killed and burned to hide any possible DNA that may have been on her.

My thoughts exactly!

Well, I hadn't thought of the "getting rid of any possible DNA" part - good point btw Hambone!

Now, that being said... I'm not trying to be crude here but, if the DNA's not on her... what about in her? It doesn't say what kind of degree burns her body had - and if there was foreign DNA in her, would it/ could it survive in this type of situation? (Anyone here have medical/ forensic knowledge about this kinda stuff?)

There is a mention about DNA and the case in this link (just found this)

http://www.ktre.com/Global/story.asp?S=11568961


Hmmm... so I wonder if authorities are able to develop a profile after all?

My thoughts exactly!

Well, I hadn't thought of the "getting rid of any possible DNA" part - good point btw Hambone!

Now, that being said... I'm not trying to be crude here but, if the DNA's not on her... what about in her? It doesn't say what kind of degree burns her body had - and if there was foreign DNA in her, would it/ could it survive in this type of situation? (Anyone here have medical/ forensic knowledge about this kinda stuff?)

There is a mention about DNA and the case in this link (just found this)

http://www.ktre.com/Global/story.asp?S=11568961


Hmmm... so I wonder if authorities are able to develop a profile after all?

Yea, they did find DNA "at the scene". Now whether that means in her or on her, I don't know. I personally believe the killer had hoped her entire body would burn down to the bones, which would eliminate all DNA presence in or on her body.

I live a few hours southwest of Lufkin and I've said this before; this kind of thing doesn't happen up there very often, so I wonder if maybe the detectives aren't trained well enough in this type of crime to solve it and may have missed some clues at the beginning that could have been useful. For instance, possible surveillance tapes at the apartment or clubs Megan visited that night that could have possibly caught the license plate of the killer or maybe even a glimpse of the killer that could have been posted around town or on the news to see if anyone recognizes him. The first club she was at, The Electric Cowboy, has since been torn down, so there wont be anything new coming from there.

this kind of thing doesn't happen up there very often, so I wonder if maybe the detectives aren't trained well enough in this type of crime to solve it and may have missed some clues at the beginning that could have been useful. For instance, possible surveillance tapes at the apartment or clubs Megan visited that night that could have possibly caught the license plate of the killer or maybe even a glimpse of the killer that could have been posted around town or on the news to see if anyone recognizes him.

Oh maaaan... :(

Well, they got some DNA and that's pretty much the best evidence to have but still, it makes for a better case to have other types of evidence as well

Well, maybe there's a good chance the dude's gonna get his day in court
and get convicted... and if it's in TX then he's gonna have a date with a needle


Now I'm really curious what kinda profile authorities have gotten from the DNA

Thanks Hambone!

Now I'm really curious what kinda profile authorities have gotten from the DNA

I'm curious as well.

The problem here is that it becomes difficult if Megan's death was the only criminal offense.

Actually, I would not be so sure about a person automatically getting the needle in Texas. In fact even in Texas death sentences have gone down dramatically since all capital murders were made punishable either by LWOP or by death in 2005. Until that time if the defendant did not get death than they got life but were parole eligible at some point. Since LWOP was introduced, as I said, the number of death sentences has decreased dramatically.

However if a suspect that is alive could be found in this case, he would be tried under the old laws. I am not even sure if he would be charged with capital murder. Not just anyone charged with murder can be charged with capital murder under Texas law. There is capital murder and then just the statute of 'murder' which appears to be open ended but would be the same as 2nd degree murder in most other states.

The Capital Murder statute though in Texas reads as follows:

(a) A person commits an offense
if the person commits murder as defined under Section 19.02(b)(1)
and:

(1) the person murders a peace officer or fireman who
is acting in the lawful discharge of an official duty and who the
person knows is a peace officer or fireman;

(2) the person intentionally commits the murder in the
course of committing or attempting to commit kidnapping, burglary,
robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, obstruction or
retaliation, or terroristic threat under Section 22.07(a)(1), (3),
(4), (5), or (6);

(3) the person commits the murder for remuneration or
the promise of remuneration or employs another to commit the murder
for remuneration or the promise of remuneration;

(4) the person commits the murder while escaping or
attempting to escape from a penal institution;

(5) the person, while incarcerated in a penal
institution, murders another:
(A) who is employed in the operation of the penal
institution; or

(B) with the intent to establish, maintain, or
participate in a combination or in the profits of a combination;

(6) the person:

(A) while incarcerated for an offense under this
section or Section 19.02, murders another; or

(B) while serving a sentence of life imprisonment
or a term of 99 years for an offense under Section 20.04, 22.021, or
29.03, murders another;

(7) the person murders more than one person:

(A) during the same criminal transaction; or

(B) during different criminal transactions but
the murders are committed pursuant to the same scheme or course of
conduct;

(8) the person murders an individual under six years
of age; or

(9) the person murders another person in retaliation
for or on account of the service or status of the other person as a
judge or justice of the supreme court, the court of criminal
appeals, a court of appeals, a district court, a criminal district
court, a constitutional county court, a statutory county court, a
justice court, or a municipal court.

(b) An offense under this section is a capital felony.

(c) If the jury or, when authorized by law, the judge does
not find beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of
an offense under this section, he may be convicted of murder or of
any other lesser included offense.

Now under the Capital Murder statute, the guy could potentially be charged with Capital Murder if it could be proven he had committed or was trying to commit a sexual assault. However that is easier said than done. Yes he committed arson but if he committed arson after he had killed her than I am not sure if that would fall under that statute?

The Texas Statute for 'murder' goes as follows. This is punishable by anywhere from probation to up to 99 years in prison:

(1) "Adequate cause" means cause that would commonly
produce a degree of anger, rage, resentment, or terror in a person
of ordinary temper, sufficient to render the mind incapable of cool
reflection.

(2) "Sudden passion" means passion directly caused by
and arising out of provocation by the individual killed or another
acting with the person killed which passion arises at the time of
the offense and is not solely the result of former provocation.

(b) A person commits an offense if he:

(1) intentionally or knowingly causes the death of an
individual;

(2) intends to cause serious bodily injury and commits
an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes the death of an
individual; or

(3) commits or attempts to commit a felony, other than
manslaughter, and in the course of and in furtherance of the
commission or attempt, or in immediate flight from the commission
or attempt, he commits or attempts to commit an act clearly
dangerous to human life that causes the death of an individual.

(c) Except as provided by Subsection

(d), an offense under
this section is a felony of the first degree.

(d) At the punishment stage of a trial, the defendant may
raise the issue as to whether he caused the death under the
immediate influence of sudden passion arising from an adequate
cause. If the defendant proves the issue in the affirmative by a
preponderance of the evidence, the offense is a felony of the second
degree.

So, the 'murder' statute would be more likely to fit in here. In fact, if a defendant were to take it to trial I would expect the defendant to argue 'sudden passion'. Normally 'murder' would be a first degree felony under Texas law which is punishable by up to 99 years in prison. However if you can prove sudden passion and a jury specifically finds it was murder in the course of sudden passion than it is a second degree felony under Texas law which is punishable by a maximum of 20 years in prison.

Now under Texas a first degree felony consists of: Murder; Aggravated Sexual Assault; Aggravated Kidnapping; Aggravated Robbery; Arson (causes bodily injury or death); Burglary of a Habitation (intent to commit felony other than felony theft); Theft of $200,000 or more.

Second Degree felonies are: Manslaughter; Indecency with a Child (by contact); Sexual Assault; Robbery; Aggravated Assault; Arson; Burglary of a Habitation; Theft/Criminal Mischief of $100,000 or more.

Third Degree felonies are: Intoxication Assault; Kidnapping; Stalking (second conviction); DWI (third conviction); Theft/Criminal Mischief of $20,000 or more.

Fourth Degree felonies are: Criminally Negligent Homicide; Burglary of a Building; Violating Protective Order (third conviction); Criminal Nonsupport; Theft/Criminal Mischief of $1,500 or more; Forgery (check). Fourth Degree felonies are punishable by anywhere from probation to up to 2 years in what they call 'state jail' which are not prisons but are like state versions of county jail.

Anyway, sorry for being nit picky on the Texas law, but it is a very complicated system in Texas and in my opinion if someone was charged in this case they would probably be charged with 'Murder' and not 'Capital Murder'.

Nah I don't think you're being nit-picky at all Kadrmas

I like the fact that you were able to provide some exact info!

I'm curious as well.

The problem here is that it becomes difficult if Megan's death was the only criminal offense.

Yes your right and it looks like that may be the case. The killer's DNA may not be in the database yet.

You'd think the victim having her throat profoundly slit would preclude any talk about rough sex going on.

That being said, slitting a live victim's throat would leave massive amount of blood splatters on the walls and the furniture around the bed, especially if the carotid artery was sectioned. However, the segment doesn't mention anything about blood at all in the room, which leads me to believe that the slashing could have been made post-mortem, after the heart stopped beating. Thus the blood would leak from the neck down on the bed from gravity, and thus being burned up, not being projected upward in splatters due to the lack of blood pressure.

Always makes my blood CURL this case.

Always makes my blood CURL this case.

Sick burn!

Woops. :o

I think this segment was shown yesterday 10/4/10, but I had so much going on here that I didn't get to see much of it. Just bits here and there to know that Megan's segment was aired. I'd been thinking that it was pretty much a cold, planned, premeditated murder.

Now after reading some of these posts again, I am kinda wondering if there could be a "sex play gone too far" aspect to this after all. There have been other cases where the kink wasn't supposed to end in death but did.

Seems like quite a few "choking game" victims have died this way (about 70 in the last decade or so) and even David Carradine is said to have died in this manner when the kink got out of his control.

The NYC Preppy Murder (Robert Chambers, killer, and Jennifer Levin, victim) sort of echo Megan's case. Like Megan Curl and her killer, Jennifer and Robert met in a club the night of the killing. They engaged in rough sex. He took it too far by strangling her with her own clothing and then alleging that this was mutually agreed upon in order to achieve a more intense experience.

I've forgotten if any of these adventurous couples were acquaintances before their unusual deaths or if they were picked up as one night stands.

In Jennifer Levin's case, Chambers tried to distance himself from the situation, did nothing to aid the dead woman, or to even have the decency to return her body and clothing into a more dignified position.

Is it possible that Megan's killer acted in a similar manner? She's dead (or dying, or he thinks she's dead) because of his actions so he puts a bag over her face, stabs her, makes sure the job is done, and burns the place in order to destroy evidence.

In Pennsylvania a couple years ago, a man hooked up household wires, conducting electrical current, to his wife during what could be considered as rough sex. Their names are Toby and Kirsten Taylor. 29 year old Kirsten Taylor died from what was thought to be a heart attack brought on by the dangerous shocks.

I'm sure there are more cases like this, I can't think of them right now.... sorry. But it just made me think that maybe there's a possibility that something similar happened to Megan.

I think this segment was shown yesterday 10/4/10, but I had so much going on here that I didn't get to see much of it. Just bits here and there to know that Megan's segment was aired. I'd been thinking that it was pretty much a cold, planned, premeditated murder.

Now after reading some of these posts again, I am kinda wondering if there could be a "sex play gone too far" aspect to this after all. There have been other cases where the kink wasn't supposed to end in death but did.

Seems like quite a few "choking game" victims have died this way (about 70 in the last decade or so) and even David Carradine is said to have died in this manner when the kink got out of his control.

The NYC Preppy Murder (Robert Chambers, killer, and Jennifer Levin, victim) sort of echo Megan's case. Like Megan Curl and her killer, Jennifer and Robert met in a club the night of the killing. They engaged in rough sex. He took it too far by strangling her with her own clothing and then alleging that this was mutually agreed upon in order to achieve a more intense experience.

I've forgotten if any of these adventurous couples were acquaintances before their unusual deaths or if they were picked up as one night stands.

In Jennifer Levin's case, Chambers tried to distance himself from the situation, did nothing to aid the dead woman, or to even have the decency to return her body and clothing into a more dignified position.

Is it possible that Megan's killer acted in a similar manner? She's dead (or dying, or he thinks she's dead) because of his actions so he puts a bag over her face, stabs her, makes sure the job is done, and burns the place in order to destroy evidence.

In Pennsylvania a couple years ago, a man hooked up household wires, conducting electrical current, to his wife during what could be considered as rough sex. Their names are Toby and Kirsten Taylor. 29 year old Kirsten Taylor died from what was thought to be a heart attack brought on by the dangerous shocks.

I'm sure there are more cases like this, I can't think of them right now.... sorry. But it just made me think that maybe there's a possibility that something similar happened to Megan.

Normally I would agree with this theory, but as I have pointed out, I think its way too much overkill for just rough sex gone bad. If he thinks he's killed her by accident, why put a bag over her head, stab her and set her on fire. I mean sheesh, its not like he is trying to conceal the identity of her. That would easily be solved since the murder took place in her apartment. But to stab, suffocate and set on fire seems a bit too much, maybe one of those things or two at the most but not all three. Anyway, that's just my opinion.

I don't rule out either theories. To be honest, I think there's holes in both of them. I think somebody already mentioned this but I'll repeat it: If Megan was killed by a serial killer, why did the killer give eye contact with Megan's friend? That's a bad mistake if he wanted to make sure that no one could identify him.

Also, it's worth pondering if Megan really was promiscuous. Just because she danced provocatively doesn't necessarily mean she would sleep with loads of men.

Surely this "friend" from the club should have been easily identified. Mustn't have been a regular if no one knew who he was.

I don't rule out either theories. To be honest, I think there's holes in both of them. I think somebody already mentioned this but I'll repeat it: If Megan was killed by a serial killer, why did the killer give eye contact with Megan's friend? That's a bad mistake if he wanted to make sure that no one could identify him.

In my opinion, this was a pre-meditated murder. If its rough sex with suffocation gone bad, then the killer could have slit her throat or set her on fire, but not both. Doing both is overkill which would lead me to think that the killer may be someone she knows. Possibly an ex boyfriend.

Also, it's worth pondering if Megan really was promiscuous. Just because she danced provocatively doesn't necessarily mean she would sleep with loads of men.[/QUOTE]

I agree. However, in my opinion, her mom all but said she was promiscuous in the segment when she said guys would take advantage of her because they knew she wanted to be loved by someone and wanted to have someone. That made me think that she would sleep around hoping to latch on with someone.

I agree. However, in my opinion, her mom all but said she was promiscuous in the segment when she said guys would take advantage of her because they knew she wanted to be loved by someone and wanted to have someone. That made me think that she would sleep around hoping to latch on with someone.Yes, it's true that Megan might have done something like that because her handicap. It's sad that she ended up the way she did because of her naivety.

I was thinking about this case the other day (as I drove through Lufkin, Tx, where this happened) and I started thinking about the DNA evidence in the case. Smokescreen had provided this link previously:

http://www.ktre.com/story/11568961/unsolved-murder-of-lufkin-girl-one-of-most-gruesome-in-local-history?redirected=true

In it, it talks about DNA helping them to solve the case eventually. Since this DNA is apparently not in the database hitting on other crimes, its safe to assume that either this was a one time isolated incident for this killer or the killer is dead. If it was a one time incident, then its possible that we may have a case of rough sex gone bad or gone too far by the perpetrator. Megan was found tied to the bed, throat slit twice with a bag over it and set on fire. Definite overkill. I'm guessing that the killer may have done something during sex that angered Megan and she may have called him on it. He snapped and then killed her. Then in an effort to get rid of any fingerprints, DNA, etc., he lit her body and apartment on fire. However, they were unable to determine if Megan was raped due to the nature of the crime scene. I doubt a rape occurred since Megan was found still wearing lingerie.

I doubt a rape occurred since Megan was found still wearing lingerie.
Ahh....that does not mean a rape didn't occur. 1) You can still be raped with clothing on 2) she could have been allowed re-dress

Unless a rape kit is done and an examination is done, someone being dressed or not is not an indicator that a rape didn't happen.

I think it went something like this:
The guy came over, they agreed to have sex. They were messing around and he says, "Let me tie your hands up." She wants to please him (because she wanted to have someone that loved her) and so she says okay. Right from the start he had plans to kill her. Once she is tied up and helpless he puts the bag over her head, suffocating her...maybe he even masturbates while watching her (this is where the dna evidence comes into it)

Then to complete his fantasy he slashes her throat...once he'd gotten all he wanted from her, he set the bed and her on fire to destroy evidence.

After that he went on his merry way...he might live out of state and that is why this crime hasn't been linked to others because I would bet you anything this wasn't his first crime (too smooth...not bungled at all...plus look how smooth he was when friend saw him...did not deter him in the LEAST))

This guy is absolute scum and anything Megan may or may not have done sexually in the past in no way excuses what he did.

I think it went something like this:
The guy came over, they agreed to have sex. They were messing around and he says, "Let me tie your hands up." She wants to please him (because she wanted to have someone that loved her) and so she says okay. Right from the start he had plans to kill her. Once she is tied up and helpless he puts the bag over her head, suffocating her...maybe he even masturbates while watching her (this is where the dna evidence comes into it)

Then to complete his fantasy he slashes her throat...once he'd gotten all he wanted from her, he set the bed and her on fire to destroy evidence.

After that he went on his merry way...he might live out of state and that is why this crime hasn't been linked to others because I would bet you anything this wasn't his first crime (too smooth...not bungled at all...plus look how smooth he was when friend saw him...did not deter him in the LEAST))

This guy is absolute scum and anything Megan may or may not have done sexually in the past in no way excuses what he did.

Excellent theory. One question I have about the murder is no matter how it happened, he had to have had gasoline or liter fluid or something to douse the place with before setting it on fire. This would mean it was probably kept in his car and thus was pre-meditated since he brought it with him. I believe that would add to your theory that it was not his first crime or first time doing this. With the exposure this case had on UM, I wonder if any other LE agencies had similar crimes and contacted Lufkin PD about it?

Do we know for a fact is was gasoline that was used as the accelerant? What if they stopped off for a big ol' bottle of booze (which wouldn't have made Megan suspicious...him carrying it into the house) and he poured the alcohol all over her and set it on fire.

But then again, would the alcohol just burn off? (Im thinking of those food shows were they put alcohol in the food and it burns off)