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Mystery Lover 04-09-2008, 02:31 PM Found this article today about Bobbi Parker.
I've always wondered if she ran away on her own. Or if she was kidnapped. Looks like she went on her own free will....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24019523/
Todd Mueller 04-09-2008, 02:52 PM You HAVE to feel bad for poor Randy Parker in this.
His wife disappears and you assume she was kidnapped by a psycho. Now Randy is left to be single dad to his daughters. Then he had to put up with the questions about "Did your wife go willingly?" Then she shows up again and you get her back.
And now it sounds like she probably was in on it all along.
Like many people, I had my doubts about her since the UM story. I wanted to believe she wasn't in on it, but there were a lot of unanswered questions. I guess it sounds like she not only went along with it but helped!
Poor Randy Parker. :(
crystaldawn 04-09-2008, 03:29 PM I don' believe for a second that Bobbi was in on it. She stayed with him because he had threatened her children and family if she left. He knew exactly where they lived and he had already killed at least one person so she knew he was capable of it. I can't imagine they can get a conviction. Also I'd like to know what type of proof they think they have they were romantically involved before he kidnapped her. This is the first I've heard of that.
wiseguy182 04-09-2008, 04:08 PM I don' believe for a second that Bobbi was in on it. She stayed with him because he had threatened her children and family if she left. He knew exactly where they lived and he had already killed at least one person so she knew he was capable of it. I can't imagine they can get a conviction. Also I'd like to know what type of proof they think they have they were romantically involved before he kidnapped her. This is the first I've heard of that.
I'm with you crystaldawn, it seems pretty apparent to me that Bobbi did not go willingly, particularly since Dial himself admitted that he kidnapped her.
mozartpc27 04-09-2008, 04:29 PM Disagree, wiseguy and crystaldawn. Bobbi's husband didn't exactly strike me as the "what every woman wants" type. He has always seemed like a bit of a creep to me - the kind who has very definite, not-open-for-compromise ideas about what a woman's proper role ought to be. Dial was an artist, probably took an interest in HER as a person rather than as the mother of children, and probably offered the right mix of danger and freedom from preconceived notions of appropriate behavior to tempt a person in Bobbi's situation.
Maybe it's just me, but the way her husband talks in the segment about how he "wants his wife back" because "these children need their mother" --- not because she was the love of his life, or for any other reason, seemingly, than she was his property, not Dial's, and he couldn't stand being made a fool of by one of his own inmates --- left me feeling very cold. He's the classic husband-type that so many novels and films over the years have lambasted: The End of the Affair, The Awakening, The Piano, Wuthering Heights, etc., etc., etc. Oh, I would have no problem believing she left him and all he represented behind, and gleefully at that.
crystaldawn 04-09-2008, 04:40 PM Disagree, wiseguy and crystaldawn. Bobbi's husband didn't exactly strike me as the "what every woman wants" type. He has always seemed like a bit of a creep to me - the kind who has very definite, not-open-for-compromise ideas about what a woman's proper role ought to be. Dial was an artist, probably took an interest in HER as a person rather than as the mother of children, and probably offered the right mix of danger and freedom from preconceived notions of appropriate behavior to tempt a person in Bobbi's situation.
Maybe it's just me, but the way her husband talks in the segment about how he "wants his wife back" because "these children need their mother" --- not because she was the love of his life, or for any other reason, seemingly, than she was his property, not Dial's, and he couldn't stand being made a fool of by one of his own inmates --- left me feeling very cold. He's the classic husband-type that so many novels and films over the years have lambasted: The End of the Affair, The Awakening, The Piano, Wuthering Heights, etc., etc., etc. Oh, I would have no problem believing she left him and all he represented behind, and gleefully at that.
I didn't get that impression from Randy Parker at all. I think his comments were said from a husband who was very angered at the thought his wife was kidnapped by an inmate. I'm sure there was some of guilt on his part, considering part of his job as deputy warden was to make sure the prisoners are accounted for and don't escape. I'm sure if you were taping an interview under similar circumstances you would express some anger as well at the situation. I think Randy Parker's actions in the years his wife was gone testify to the love and devotion he had for his wife and his belief she didn't go willingly in that he never remarried and always seemed to be waiting for her. He was very glad to see her when she was recovered and they went back to living as man and wife immediately.
You mentioned that he was no prize either. He was certainly ten times better than an aging murderer with a heart condition. :lol:
kadrmas15 04-09-2008, 05:41 PM Hmm, well I actually agree with the majority on this one. I dont feel that Bobbi Parker went willingly with Randolph Dial. I just think if she truly wanted to get away from her husband than why stay with Dial for over 10 years? Maybe she did have the stockholm syndrome, but I just tend to believe that Dial kidnapped Parker. I do however agree with Mozart that Randy Parker did seem to have what some people would deem to be an "old-fashioned" attitude about a woman's place in the home and stuff. However Randy Parker seemed to genuinely miss his wife and want her back too.
Melanie85 04-10-2008, 10:10 AM Are the Parkers still together?
I would imagine that if they are still together, that somewhere in the three years that Bobbi has been back Randy would have had a clue as to whether she left on her own or not.
DarkDante 04-10-2008, 11:12 AM Disagree, wiseguy and crystaldawn. Bobbi's husband didn't exactly strike me as the "what every woman wants" type. He has always seemed like a bit of a creep to me - the kind who has very definite, not-open-for-compromise ideas about what a woman's proper role ought to be. Dial was an artist, probably took an interest in HER as a person rather than as the mother of children, and probably offered the right mix of danger and freedom from preconceived notions of appropriate behavior to tempt a person in Bobbi's situation.
Maybe it's just me, but the way her husband talks in the segment about how he "wants his wife back" because "these children need their mother" --- not because she was the love of his life, or for any other reason, seemingly, than she was his property, not Dial's, and he couldn't stand being made a fool of by one of his own inmates --- left me feeling very cold. He's the classic husband-type that so many novels and films over the years have lambasted: The End of the Affair, The Awakening, The Piano, Wuthering Heights, etc., etc., etc. Oh, I would have no problem believing she left him and all he represented behind, and gleefully at that.
I basically agree - I don't doubt that Randy Parker loved his wife but he could've been exactly as Mozart describes him. I think about "A Doll's House" by Ibsen and the relationship between Torvald and Nora. In the play, I believe that Torvald did love his wife but it was on his own terms and his own twisted way of showing his love that eventually drove Nora to leave him. I can easily see a similar thing happen here. I think first reactions are strong ones. The first time I saw this segment, I thought to myself "suppose she just left her husband?" I'll grant you that watching a short UM segment is not enough to gauge a person's demeanor but Randy Parker rubbed me the wrong way. Obviously if his wife was kidnapped by Dial I feel badly for what he and his children had to go through but he didn't help his cause by coming off like such a jerk in the segment. He didn't strike me as the kind of person I could relate to or feel sorry for which is unusual for me when listening to some of the victims on UM. That being said I think Bobbi Parker ran off with Randolph Dial but I don't think she will be charged with it in the end.
Todd Mueller 04-10-2008, 11:18 AM All along I thought she was kidnapped. But. . .
This isn't the first case UM alone has had about "normal" housewives who have fallen for or run off with prisoners. He may have been a great husband but one day she woke up and wondered why her life was so routine.
People of both sexes have done it. I'm sure living in a prison maybe got to her after a while... who knows. Maybe she and Dial were friends but he took it for a romance that wasn't there.
My point is that if they charged her, there must be some kind of evidence. But we will see.
lilmissd 04-12-2008, 08:38 PM I don't know I'm kinda torn on this one. Maybe at first, she didn't go willingly, but after awhile maybe she just figured "this is my life now" and just accepted it. We don't know what we would do unless we were faced with that situation. If if at first though, she didn't want to go with him, why did she STAY with him? 10 years is a lot of time, wouldn't you think if someone was really serious about killing you, that you would have been dead sooner? Weird case. I feel bad for her husband and children having to go on with their lives with out her.
crystaldawn 04-12-2008, 09:53 PM A few articles you guys might find interesting:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/18/national/main688790.shtml
Here's a webpage with excerpts of letters Randolph Dial wrote to a reporter after his recapture:
http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=4838343
claret 04-13-2008, 09:12 AM Those are really interesting articles, crystaldawn. I've never felt that she helped Dial willingly. She had been living with a husband that put her in a somewhat subservient role so it made a great candidate to be manipulated by a guy like Dial. I think he threatened her to get her to help him escape and threatened her more afterwards to keep her with him. Then it just became her new life.
mozartpc27 04-13-2008, 09:21 PM A few articles you guys might find interesting:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/18/national/main688790.shtml
Here's a webpage with excerpts of letters Randolph Dial wrote to a reporter after his recapture:
http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=4838343
By the time Randolph Dial was returned to prison, he was a dying man. If he and Bobbi Parker had in fact been in love, and if he had felt any tenderness at all towards her, I would not find it in the least surprising that he would "cover" for her in this fashion (by saying she was 100% a victim). What does he have to lose by saying so? Indeed, it probably made him feel good to do something decent at the end.
Sorry, I just don't think he's a convincing witness in this. That said, I don't KNOW that Bobbi Parker ran off with him willingly, so it's possible that it's all true, that he was the lone baddy. I'm just saying that if I had to bet, I'd bet on her as a willing participant...
Allierain 04-17-2008, 12:16 AM Let's discuss this, by all means.
But as for the charges, Dial is dead. The Parkers are apparently trying to put their lives back together, for they are still together (as far as I know). I wish they would just close the case and let them be. Just my two cents.
justins5256 04-17-2008, 07:14 AM I just find it odd that in all those years she never once attempted to contact her family and/or get help.
Allierain 07-28-2008, 09:56 AM I just find it odd that in all those years she never once attempted to contact her family and/or get help.
It does seem odd. If Dial let her go to town on her own, she had a small window of opportunity to either call someone she knew or flee. It's easy to assume, however, what she should have done since we're not in her position. If she didn't go willingly it must have been terrifying. But after 10 years, even she knew Dial enough to have a good idea of what he was capable of, as well as what she herself could get away with.
I know I suggested that people just leave Bobbi alone, but curiosity got the best of me and I found this article (with video) online:
http://newsok.com/article/3233006/1208811744
user296686@aol.c 07-30-2008, 07:37 PM I just find it odd that in all those years she never once attempted to contact her family and/or get help.
I'm with you. If Dial is captured, how can he kill her children??? She left willingly and stayed willingly.
And as for the ice-brained warden... WHY on Gods green earth would he let an inmate, of ANY capacity, frequent the home that his wife and children lived in???????
Pam
user296686@aol.c 07-30-2008, 08:01 PM It does seem odd. If Dial let her go to town on her own, she had a small window of opportunity to either call someone she knew or flee. It's easy to assume, however, what she should have done since we're not in her position. If she didn't go willingly it must have been terrifying. But after 10 years, even she knew Dial enough to have a good idea of what he was capable of, as well as what she herself could get away with.
I know I suggested that people just leave Bobbi alone, but curiosity got the best of me and I found this article (with video) online:
http://newsok.com/article/3233006/1208811744
What a flipping bubble head... total and complete idiots.
Pam :rolleyes:
justins5256 07-30-2008, 09:13 PM I'm with you. If Dial is captured, how can he kill her children??? She left willingly and stayed willingly.
And as for the ice-brained warden... WHY on Gods green earth would he let an inmate, of ANY capacity, frequent the home that his wife and children lived in???????
Pam
Thanks, Pam. I couldn't agree more. I hope she is charged, although I'm not sure what is going on with that now.
Anyone know for sure?
crystaldawn 07-30-2008, 10:01 PM I certainly hope she is NOT charged. There's no doubt in my mind that she did not go with him willingly. He admitted to drugging her when he abducted her. That would go along with the eyewitnesses who reported seeing them together and various fairs selling Dial's work when they described how Bobbi appeared. Yes of course there were times when she could have physically gotten away. What would you guys do if you knew if you escaped you would have a convicted murderer returning to the same house you were and very possibly making good on his promise to murder her family. It wasn't a matter of her being able to leave, it was fear that made her stay.
user296686@aol.c 07-31-2008, 01:01 AM I certainly hope she is NOT charged. There's no doubt in my mind that she did not go with him willingly. He admitted to drugging her when he abducted her. That would go along with the eyewitnesses who reported seeing them together and various fairs selling Dial's work when they described how Bobbi appeared. Yes of course there were times when she could have physically gotten away. What would you guys do if you knew if you escaped you would have a convicted murderer returning to the same house you were and very possibly making good on his promise to murder her family. It wasn't a matter of her being able to leave, it was fear that made her stay.
I'm sorry, CD. No disrespect intended, but there is no way on this earth that ANYONE could EVER make me believe that she was with that man for 10 years and NEVER made an attempt to contact police or home.
As far as having fear of him coming back to harm her or her family... please.
Over 10 years time there had to come many chances that she could have had someone contact police for her so that he could be apprehended while they were together. He's not the mafia, he's one man.
Sorry. But no way, no how do I believe that she was with him all that time and "unable" and/or "afraid" to make contact with the police or home.
Pam :wave:
crystaldawn 07-31-2008, 07:12 AM I'm sorry, CD. No disrespect intended, but there is no way on this earth that ANYONE could EVER make me believe that she was with that man for 10 years and NEVER made an attempt to contact police or home.
As far as having fear of him coming back to harm her or her family... please.
Over 10 years time there had to come many chances that she could have had someone contact police for her so that he could be apprehended while they were together. He's not the mafia, he's one man.
Sorry. But no way, no how do I believe that she was with him all that time and "unable" and/or "afraid" to make contact with the police or home.
Pam :wave:
No problem Pam, we'll just agree to disagree because you'll never convince me she willingly left with him. I think the whole thing with her not contacting her family...well we know she never successfully contacted her family but Bobbi hasn't spoken about her kidnapping so there may have been times when she attempted to but Dial stopped her. I think there's some issue as to her mental clarity as well. Dial said he regularly drugged her and anytime he felt like she was ready to leave he would start drugging her to get her to stay. I don't know whether Bobbi knew she was being drugged and he threatened her into taking it or whether he slipped it into her food or drink unknowingly but that would certainly make her not think clearly and coherently which could also be a reason why she stayed.
user296686@aol.c 08-01-2008, 05:59 PM No problem Pam, we'll just agree to disagree because you'll never convince me she willingly left with him. I think the whole thing with her not contacting her family...well we know she never successfully contacted her family but Bobbi hasn't spoken about her kidnapping so there may have been times when she attempted to but Dial stopped her. I think there's some issue as to her mental clarity as well. Dial said he regularly drugged her and anytime he felt like she was ready to leave he would start drugging her to get her to stay. I don't know whether Bobbi knew she was being drugged and he threatened her into taking it or whether he slipped it into her food or drink unknowingly but that would certainly make her not think clearly and coherently which could also be a reason why she stayed.
Hi CD,
FOR 10 YEARS???? :rolleyes: What do you mean she hasn't spoken about her abduction? She hasn't said a public word about it? Hmmm... that seems odd to me. Sounds like an attorney telling her to keep her mouth shut and lets get this taken care of.
Also, I'm not trying to change your mind, CD. I was just giving my opinion. When I said no one could convince me of that, I wasn't referring to you directly. Just in general. ;)
And Dial saying everything to back her up... what would you expect him to say? IMO they were in love, that's why she left with him, and thats why they co-habitated for 10 years and thats why she never made an attempt in 10 years to get help. And if she she were indeed "kidnapped", when they brought Dial in and charged him with escape, why did they not also charge him with kidnapping? If he admits himself that the kidnapping story is true, why not charge him with it? Prosecutors say that they have evidence that proves that she she helped him escape or they would not have picked up the charges. We'll just have to see what happens.
Pam :wave:
crystaldawn 08-01-2008, 06:20 PM Also, I'm not trying to change your mind, CD. I was just giving my opinion. When I said no one could convince me of that, I wasn't referring to you directly. Just in general. ;)
And Dial saying everything to back her up... what would you expect him to say? IMO they were in love, that's why she left with him, and thats why they co-habitated for 10 years and thats why she never made an attempt in 10 years to get help. And if she she were indeed "kidnapped", when they brought Dial in and charged him with escape, why did they not also charge him with kidnapping? If he admits himself that the kidnapping story is true, why not charge him with it? Prosecutors say that they have evidence that proves that she she helped him escape or they would not have picked up the charges. We'll just have to see what happens.
Pam :wave:
Yes I feel as strongly about this case as you do...just in the opposite direction. :lol:
Au contraire about Dial going along with the story to help her out. I have read the book about Dial and he is an egomaniac - why do you think he actually called the author of it when it came out? He loves all the attention and I think if he had gotten the young wife of the deputy warden to go with him willingly he would have shouted it from the rooftops when they were discovered to let everyone know. Even though the guy was a psycho, I think he felt some guilt about what he did to Bobbi after the fact and thats why he seemed to go out of his way to tell everyone she didn't go willingly.
Why haven't they charged him with kidnapping...I think the fact that he is dead may have something to do with it? ;)
user296686@aol.c 08-02-2008, 07:20 PM Yes I feel as strongly about this case as you do...just in the opposite direction. :lol:
Au contraire about Dial going along with the story to help her out. I have read the book about Dial and he is an egomaniac - why do you think he actually called the author of it when it came out? He loves all the attention and I think if he had gotten the young wife of the deputy warden to go with him willingly he would have shouted it from the rooftops when they were discovered to let everyone know. Even though the guy was a psycho, I think he felt some guilt about what he did to Bobbi after the fact and thats why he seemed to go out of his way to tell everyone she didn't go willingly.
Why haven't they charged him with kidnapping...I think the fact that he is dead may have something to do with it? ;)
That doesn't make sense to me. He's an admitted murderer, a psycho, and a kidnapper, but he felt "guilt" about what he did to her? I don't know about that, CD.
And I know that Dial is dead. But why didn't they charge him with kidnapping THEN, when they originally arrested him and charged him with escape? Why would they not also charge him with kidnapping?
Pam :wave:
mphs95 08-02-2008, 08:14 PM I'm with CD. I think Dial took off with her. From what witnesses say, Bobbi was probably doped up when Dial felt she might take off. If she is drugged, plus with constant manipulation by him, she was probably brainwashed into staying with him. Fear can be a scary thing. RD from what I've read is a convincing manipulator with an ego to boot. I agree with CD that he would have in some way advertised he was with her willingly in some way to stick it to her husband.
The dude is dead, let Bobbi move on with her life and save the taxpayers some money.
user296686@aol.c 08-02-2008, 09:25 PM I'm with CD. I think Dial took off with her. From what witnesses say, Bobbi was probably doped up when Dial felt she might take off. If she is drugged, plus with constant manipulation by him, she was probably brainwashed into staying with him. Fear can be a scary thing. RD from what I've read is a convincing manipulator with an ego to boot. I agree with CD that he would have in some way advertised he was with her willingly in some way to stick it to her husband.
The dude is dead, let Bobbi move on with her life and save the taxpayers some money.
I'm sure that's what she's hoping for but I don't think it's going to be that easy. Prosecutors state they have evidence that points to her helping him to escape. They say they have evidence or they would not have picked it up.
I admittedly do not have extensive knowledge of this case. I am going to read more about it. I just read an article from a reporter that Dial was corresponding with http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=4838343 and Dial speaks of how he would use drugs and mind control over her when he felt like she was ready to "bolt"... I just don't buy it. I've also read an article today that said that she did contact home more than once and said she'd "be home soon." Who knows... But I believe that she was in love with Dial and he with her and they lived together until they were caught. As I said, I don't know every detail. I could very well be wrong. But I'm sure going to look into it and keep up with it.
Pam :wave:
justins5256 08-02-2008, 09:37 PM I like the photo of Bobbi working on Dial's farm with a huge smile on her face.
user296686@aol.c 08-03-2008, 12:53 PM Thanks, Pam. I couldn't agree more. I hope she is charged, although I'm not sure what is going on with that now.
Anyone know for sure?
Hi justin :wave:
From what I've read, she has been charged and released on 10,000.00 bail.
Pam :wave:
mike890 08-03-2008, 02:15 PM "Dial said he regularly drugged her and anytime he felt like she was ready to leave he would start drugging her to get her to stay."
We are talking about 10 years not a few weeks. The idea of him drugging her when he felt like she was ready to leave is just ridiculous.
user296686@aol.c 08-04-2008, 01:53 PM "Dial said he regularly drugged her and anytime he felt like she was ready to leave he would start drugging her to get her to stay."
We are talking about 10 years not a few weeks. The idea of him drugging her when he felt like she was ready to leave is just ridiculous.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
mike890 08-05-2008, 10:10 AM No problem Pam. I keep hearing the same arguments about drugging her when he felt like she was ready to leave. That makes sense in a kidnapping that last a few days or weeks but to think someone could do this for 10 years is beyond the realm of reason. That argument holds absolutely no water and was an obvious ploy for this guy to help his woman stay out of trouble. I am surprised anyone would buy in that. There is simply no reason she could have been under supervision 24 hours a day and drugged "when they thought she was going to leave". How could they have possible known when this is going to happen? There would have been 100 of times over the course of 10 years to escape if she wanted to leave. She didnt because she was there willingly. All this crap that we are hearing is an obvious ploy to paint this woman as a victim when she was an obvious willing party. I am surprised how many people actually buy into these lame defense arguments. Like I said before, if this happened over a few weeks then its possbile. 10 years? If you think that is even close to being in the realm of possibility I dont know what to tell you. She was a willing participant and the court and jury will realize this. Time to pay the piper.
Allierain 08-05-2008, 04:22 PM It's hard to believe that Bobbi willingly stayed with Dial for 10 years, but one thing we have to remember is that we're not in Bobbi's place. We have no idea how she should have acted or what she should have done. I don't believe that she was drugged the entire time she was with Dial. But maybe Bobbi was just naive enough to believe that Dial would harm her family if she ever tried to escape.
It's very easy to say that Bobbi made the choice to stay with Dial since we're not in her shoes.
user296686@aol.c 08-05-2008, 06:44 PM No problem Pam. I keep hearing the same arguments about drugging her when he felt like she was ready to leave. That makes sense in a kidnapping that last a few days or weeks but to think someone could do this for 10 years is beyond the realm of reason. That argument holds absolutely no water and was an obvious ploy for this guy to help his woman stay out of trouble. I am surprised anyone would buy in that. There is simply no reason she could have been under supervision 24 hours a day and drugged "when they thought she was going to leave". How could they have possible known when this is going to happen? There would have been 100 of times over the course of 10 years to escape if she wanted to leave. She didnt because she was there willingly. All this crap that we are hearing is an obvious ploy to paint this woman as a victim when she was an obvious willing party. I am surprised how many people actually buy into these lame defense arguments. Like I said before, if this happened over a few weeks then its possbile. 10 years? If you think that is even close to being in the realm of possibility I dont know what to tell you. She was a willing participant and the court and jury will realize this. Time to pay the piper.
I could not agree with you more. :clap
Pam :wave:
crystaldawn 08-05-2008, 07:20 PM It's very easy to say that Bobbi made the choice to stay with Dial since we're not in her shoes.
Excellent point! Its so easy to sit here and judge when who knows how we would have handled something when faced with a similar situation. Also if this evidence against Bobbi is so overwhelming than why in the world did it take them years to charge her? :rolleyes:
user296686@aol.c 08-06-2008, 03:36 AM Excellent point! Its so easy to sit here and judge when who knows how we would have handled something when faced with a similar situation. Also if this evidence against Bobbi is so overwhelming than why in the world did it take them years to charge her? :rolleyes:
Hi CD :wave:
I don't think anyone is actually 'judging' Bobbi. We are all just doing what we are supposed to do here and that is to just give our opinions on these cases. Bobbi Parker could be one of the nicest ladies in the world... I'm not judging her personally. I just don't believe her story. It simply does not make sense to me.
I don't know why they waited so long to charge her. But then again, I don't know why they didn't charge Dial with kidnapping when they arrested him. It's just one of those things. We'll just have to wait and see what the evidence is and see what happens.
Pam :wave:
user296686@aol.c 08-06-2008, 03:53 AM The person I am amazed by is the husband/warden. What in the world is going through his brain that he would let a convicted murderer into his home where his wife and children live? I'll never understand that. I don't care if Dial was on trustee status or not. That is ridiculous.
Pam :wave:
user296686@aol.c 08-11-2008, 05:57 AM The person I am amazed by is the husband/warden. What in the world is going through his brain that he would let a convicted murderer into his home where his wife and children live? I'll never understand that. I don't care if Dial was on trustee status or not. That is ridiculous.
Pam :wave:
No answer to that one, huh? That's the second time I've mentioned it and I haven't heard one word from a Bobbi supporter yet.
crystaldawn 08-11-2008, 08:47 AM no answer to that one, huh? That's the second time I've mentioned it and I haven't her one word from a Bobbi supporter yet.
Well Pam I totally agree with you on that one! What in the world was Randy Parker thinking letting a murderer work in the garage of his home with his wife and kids!! I'm sure he asked himself that question a million times after she went missing.
Dislimb 08-11-2008, 01:34 PM No problem Pam. I keep hearing the same arguments about drugging her when he felt like she was ready to leave. That makes sense in a kidnapping that last a few days or weeks but to think someone could do this for 10 years is beyond the realm of reason. That argument holds absolutely no water and was an obvious ploy for this guy to help his woman stay out of trouble. I am surprised anyone would buy in that. There is simply no reason she could have been under supervision 24 hours a day and drugged "when they thought she was going to leave". How could they have possible known when this is going to happen? There would have been 100 of times over the course of 10 years to escape if she wanted to leave. She didnt because she was there willingly. All this crap that we are hearing is an obvious ploy to paint this woman as a victim when she was an obvious willing party. I am surprised how many people actually buy into these lame defense arguments. Like I said before, if this happened over a few weeks then its possbile. 10 years? If you think that is even close to being in the realm of possibility I dont know what to tell you. She was a willing participant and the court and jury will realize this. Time to pay the piper.
This is the best post in this thread. It is very clear to me that this swamp donkey is guilty and she'll have ten years in the pen to think about it. Good riddance.
Big3sCompanyFan 08-13-2008, 07:47 AM Found this article today about Bobbi Parker.
I've always wondered if she ran away on her own. Or if she was kidnapped. Looks like she went on her own free will....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24019523/
It's INCREDIBLY obvious she was WILLINGLY with him since she had HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of chances to leave him but NEVER DID. She was ALONE for hours on end so WHY didn't she leave??
Don't give me the psycho death threat crap since the entire LE community can defeat this nut and his cohorts if he had any. Just because a psycho psychologist opens their mouth doesn't mean eveything they say is the iron clad truth.
Allierain 08-13-2008, 12:42 PM The person I am amazed by is the husband/warden. What in the world is going through his brain that he would let a convicted murderer into his home where his wife and children live? I'll never understand that. I don't care if Dial was on trustee status or not. That is ridiculous.
Pam :wave:
I also agree on that point. I know he was the warden and an art program can be a very positive experience for inmates, but I would be very uncomfortable letting an inmate near my spouse and children.
Dislimb 08-13-2008, 06:56 PM It's INCREDIBLY obvious she was WILLINGLY with him since she had HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of chances to leave him but NEVER DID. She was ALONE for hours on end so WHY didn't she leave??
Don't give me the psycho death threat crap since the entire LE community can defeat this nut and his cohorts if he had any. Just because a psycho psychologist opens their mouth doesn't mean eveything they say is the iron clad truth.
QFT
user296686@aol.c 08-18-2008, 07:19 AM It's INCREDIBLY obvious she was WILLINGLY with him since she had HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of chances to leave him but NEVER DID. She was ALONE for hours on end so WHY didn't she leave??
Don't give me the psycho death threat crap since the entire LE community can defeat this nut and his cohorts if he had any. Just because a psycho psychologist opens their mouth doesn't mean eveything they say is the iron clad truth.
Another well made point. I totally agree. :clap
Pam :wave:
user296686@aol.c 08-27-2008, 08:30 PM Disagree, wiseguy and crystaldawn. Bobbi's husband didn't exactly strike me as the "what every woman wants" type. He has always seemed like a bit of a creep to me - the kind who has very definite, not-open-for-compromise ideas about what a woman's proper role ought to be. Dial was an artist, probably took an interest in HER as a person rather than as the mother of children, and probably offered the right mix of danger and freedom from preconceived notions of appropriate behavior to tempt a person in Bobbi's situation.
Maybe it's just me, but the way her husband talks in the segment about how he "wants his wife back" because "these children need their mother" --- not because she was the love of his life, or for any other reason, seemingly, than she was his property, not Dial's, and he couldn't stand being made a fool of by one of his own inmates --- left me feeling very cold. He's the classic husband-type that so many novels and films over the years have lambasted: The End of the Affair, The Awakening, The Piano, Wuthering Heights, etc., etc., etc. Oh, I would have no problem believing she left him and all he represented behind, and gleefully at that.
:clap Couldn't agree with you more.
Pam :wave:
asquinas 10-29-2008, 05:30 PM She's going on trial
http://newsok.com/bobbi-parker-to-stand-trial-on-charge-of-aiding-inmate-randolph-dials-escape/article/3316745
yuppielawyer 10-29-2008, 11:56 PM I always leaned towards the theory that she went with him willingly. When they were found together, that just confirmed my suspicions. She had many opportunities to escape, and I don't buy the story that she was worried he or his mafia associates would harm her family. At one point, he had a heart attack, and was in the hospital, and she not only didn't take this opportunity to escape, she wrote him love letters about how lonely she was at home without him.
I think Dial did love her, and, had no reason to out her as his willing accomplice, so I don't put any stock in his insistence that he kidnapped her.
Dislimb 10-30-2008, 03:17 AM Dial and Parker were found by authorities on April 4, 2005, living together on an east Texas chicken farm. Dial died in prison June 13, 2007.
"I asked him (Dial), ‘How about Bobbi? Is she still alive?’” Sasser testified. "He sounded somewhat offended by my question. ‘Of course she’s still alive. Do you want to talk to her?’ ... I heard the TV in the background, and him say, ‘Bobbi, come here. There’s someone here who wants to talk to you.’ I heard the two of them mumbling — they sounded like an old, married couple.”
Sasser quizzed the woman with a few questions "that only Bobbi Parker would have known.”
"I was convinced it was Bobbi Parker,” Sasser said. "Finally, I said, ‘Are you all right?’ She said, ‘I’m all right and I’m happy.’”
The proof is in the pudding! Lock that swamp donkey up and throw away the key! Bye bye, Bobbi. :wave:
user296686@aol.c 10-31-2008, 10:02 AM She's going on trial
http://newsok.com/bobbi-parker-to-stand-trial-on-charge-of-aiding-inmate-randolph-dials-escape/article/3316745
Thanks for the post.
Pam :wave:
crystaldawn 10-31-2008, 01:37 PM I found it interesting that the new UM didn't even mention that Bobbi had been charged. I'm not sure when they filmed the "update" but they did indict her quite a while ago I think.
Big3sCompanyFan 11-02-2008, 12:39 PM What has Bobbi been charged with?
crystaldawn 11-02-2008, 07:12 PM What has Bobbi been charged with?
She's been charged with assisting Dial in his escape. She wasn't charged until fairly recently.
yuppielawyer 11-04-2008, 02:17 AM She was charged back in April, seemingly plenty of time for them to include that in the update.
mozartpc27 03-14-2009, 07:11 PM Any update on her forthcoming trial? I'm 100% certain she went away willingly, but less certain, after all these years, if it's even worth prosecuting her.
On the other hand, now that I've read this entire thread, I've learned two things:
1) Dislimb was banned. Had no idea. Why?
2) "swamp donkey" is one of the 5 funniest terms I've heard in the last decade.
TracyLynnS 03-14-2009, 08:51 PM I was wondering why dislimb was banned, too. I apparently joined here after his banishment from the forums so I've never talked with him. Everything I've read from his posts all seemed normal, though. Did he ever come back under a new screen name?
kadrmas15 03-14-2009, 11:12 PM Hmm, yes, I am wondering why Dislimb was banned too. I am assuming he was banned because it was something he said that was not politically correct.
TracyLynnS 03-15-2009, 10:26 AM Okie dokie, that makes sense. Looks like I'm only running across the good posts. Maybe his offensive posts were deleted, so those of us who are new never saw them, and that also led us to the confusion. Thanks for the info, wiseguy. :)
MissFit29 03-15-2009, 12:57 PM You know, I was trying to recall this case, and I kept mixing it up with details from a Simpson's episode. Remember the one where Marge taught the painting class at the prison and because friends with the talented painter-convict Jake?
So, it wasn't really a case of Stockholm Syndrome or anything....she just went with him. Hmmm.
kadrmas15 03-15-2009, 06:18 PM Hmm Wiseguy, after going back and reviewing some of his posts I guess I agree that he had pushed the limits a lot over a long period of time. The term 'swamp donkey' is a term I have never heard before. I dont know I have mixed feeling about Bobbi Parker being charged. To be honest, she probably will be convicted but I think it would be overturned. There is really not any actual evidence that she aided in Dial's escape. He always denied that she helped him. Since Dial is dead he cannot be cross examined and since he never even accused Bobbi of helping him escape it seems weird how she would be charged. I guess because Dial is dead and even if he were alive he would be serving a life sentence so I guess the prosecutors figured they had to punish someone? It is just a strange set of circumstances. To be honest, I tend to believe that Bobbi and Dial did not have a sexual relationship. It was reported that Dial had a heart condition and that he took medication for it and that this medication basically made him impotent.
MissFit29 03-26-2009, 06:31 PM Audrey Moate
Big3sCompanyFan 03-27-2009, 04:34 AM Hmm Wiseguy, after going back and reviewing some of his posts I guess I agree that he had pushed the limits a lot over a long period of time. The term 'swamp donkey' is a term I have never heard before. I dont know I have mixed feeling about Bobbi Parker being charged. To be honest, she probably will be convicted but I think it would be overturned. There is really not any actual evidence that she aided in Dial's escape. He always denied that she helped him. Since Dial is dead he cannot be cross examined and since he never even accused Bobbi of helping him escape it seems weird how she would be charged. I guess because Dial is dead and even if he were alive he would be serving a life sentence so I guess the prosecutors figured they had to punish someone? It is just a strange set of circumstances. To be honest, I tend to believe that Bobbi and Dial did not have a sexual relationship. It was reported that Dial had a heart condition and that he took medication for it and that this medication basically made him impotent.
That's impossible. Even if heart patients cannot have sexual intercourse they can stilll fool around. I'm sure Dial saw Bobbi naked and vice versa and there was foreplay and making out between even if no actual sex.
The only way there would've been no sexual contact at all is if Dial was a homosexual which he wasn't.
kadrmas15 03-27-2009, 04:18 PM I did not say there was not any 'sexual contact' I said that it sounded like there was not any sexual intercourse because supposedly Dial's heart medication basically made him impotent. Are you honestly trying to put seeing someone naked and kissing and stuff like that on the same level as actual intercourse? Seriously. Also, if nothing physical happened between the two that also does not necessarily mean that Dial was a homosexual. Would you call anyone else a homosexual just because they were not getting all over a person of the opposite sex all the time?
TracyLynnS 03-27-2009, 04:50 PM Ugh, guys, this is sooooo gross. My poor little mind is never going to be the same. Old felonious Randolph Dial, nekkid on his chicken ranch. Box of Rocks Bobbi performing her "wifely" duties in the bedroom... I gotta go scrub my brain with antibacterial soap now.
I would much rather discuss methods of murder, torture, or exection and their effects of the human body. Or talk about entrails, decomposition, the life cycle of insect larva is it pertains to dertimining time of death, or the goings on at Dr. Bass' body farm... But THIS? This is just sick!
kadrmas15 03-27-2009, 06:27 PM Ha, well 3's company brought it up. I just felt the need to clarify what I was saying earlier because for some reason 3's company felt it necessary to speculate about what Randolph Dial and Bobbi Parker did or didnt do together.
Big3sCompanyFan 03-27-2009, 06:39 PM Ha, well 3's company brought it up. I just felt the need to clarify what I was saying earlier because for some reason 3's company felt it necessary to speculate about what Randolph Dial and Bobbi Parker did or didnt do together.
Read your own quote. You said "I tend to believe that Bobbi and Dial did not have a sexual relationship."
So you did NOT say sexual intercourse. You can have a sexual relationship without sexual intercourse.
yuppielawyer 03-27-2009, 07:30 PM Very little doubt in my mind that they were getting it on and that she helped him escape. That's what I thought from the first time I saw the episode. When they were found living together as husband and wife, it just confirmed it for me. She wrote him love letters when he was in the hospital, for goodness sakes! She didn't run away, call the cops, try to call her family. No. She wrote letters to him about how she loved him and missed him. It's meaningless to me that Dial said he kidnapped her. He was going to die in jail anyway. He loved her, so he lied for her. At that point, he had nothing to gain by saying that she was in on it.
I still can't believe her husband just took her back. Does anyone know if they are still together? Someone needs to stage an intervention with him.
kadrmas15 03-27-2009, 07:46 PM Okay big 3's company so I did not exactly say sexual intercourse. Yes I said they did not have a 'sexual relationship' which in my mind means 'sexual intercourse'. You have a much more open ended definition of what 'sexual relationship' means than I do but you misinterpreted what I was saying. So sorry that you did that but you could have been a bit nicer about it. Just an opinion.
VikingsGal 03-27-2009, 10:04 PM Very little doubt in my mind that they were getting it on and that she helped him escape. That's what I thought from the first time I saw the episode. When they were found living together as husband and wife, it just confirmed it for me. She wrote him love letters when he was in the hospital, for goodness sakes! She didn't run away, call the cops, try to call her family. No. She wrote letters to him about how she loved him and missed him. It's meaningless to me that Dial said he kidnapped her. He was going to die in jail anyway. He loved her, so he lied for her. At that point, he had nothing to gain by saying that she was in on it.
I still can't believe her husband just took her back. Does anyone know if they are still together? Someone needs to stage an intervention with him.
I agree yuppielawyer and I do not know why Bobbi's husband took her back. I was shocked, too. I always thought she helped him escape.
I have not heard any new updates. If I do, Ill be back!
Blackout 06-20-2009, 05:20 PM You HAVE to feel bad for poor Randy Parker in this.
His wife disappears and you assume she was kidnapped by a psycho. Now Randy is left to be single dad to his daughters. Then he had to put up with the questions about "Did your wife go willingly?" Then she shows up again and you get her back.
And now it sounds like she probably was in on it all along.
Like many people, I had my doubts about her since the UM story. I wanted to believe she wasn't in on it, but there were a lot of unanswered questions. I guess it sounds like she not only went along with it but helped!
Poor Randy Parker. :(
http://www30.brinkster.com/rsandhu01/nonfiction_nm/Randolph%20Franklin%20Dial.html
she was in on it for sure:
...The author of the true-crime book "At Large," which was based on Dial's case, does not believe the story that Parker had been forced to stay with Dial since 1994. Charles W. Sasser, a writer and a former Tulsa homicide detective, spoke to Dial and Parker by telephone in 2001, three years after "At Large" was published. Dial called him, Sasser said, to say he had read the book 12 times and to note that "you weren't always complimentary to me, but you were always fair and objective."
Sasser asked about Parker, and Dial said she was fine and put her on the phone. Sasser said he asked three questions to which only Parker would have known the answers and was satisfied that he was talking to the right woman. He said he asked how she was and urged her to call her family and let them know she was alive. "She said, 'I'm fine and I'm happy,' and . . . she said she wondered if it was better to let them [her family] keep thinking she was dead or to call them," Sasser said. He said he spoke to Dial for about an hour and called the FBI afterward. FBI attempts to trace Dial's call were unsuccessful, Sasser said.
Authorities were led to Dial and Parker this week by a tip generated by the TV show "America's Most Wanted," which featured the case. The two had been running a chicken farm in Campti, near the Louisiana border, for the past 5 1/2 years. They lived in a two-bedroom trailer in the woods. Dial told authorities he rarely ventured off the property. Instead, he sent Parker on errands to nearby Center, including to the town's grocery store, across the street from the Shelby County Sheriff's Office.
"We're looking across the highway at the store," Chief Deputy Kent Shaffer said. "She could have driven in here instead. We sure would have helped her out, I guarantee you."
she's either ******** or didn't want to be caught
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