In the ep-"One on One" Mel was helping Jolene with playing basketball and then when it was over they starting KISSING??. I did not see that coming at all. Mel was a OLD DIRTY DOG!!!!!


Then they start KISSIN AGAIN in the DINER and get caught by ALICE and VERA!!!!!!!!!!!!-lol

Who the hell is Vera and Alice to catch their boss kissing another employee? Mel obviously had a thing for all his southern-talking waitressess.

Who the hell is Vera and Alice to catch their boss kissing another employee? Mel obviously had a thing for all his southern-talking waitressess.


I guess that explained why Joelene went out her way to pick with Mel all the time-lol

puke: I never knew Mel and Jolene did THAT...what happened to his "puppy toes" aka Marie??

I could not belive that Mel was Kissing Jolene.

Who the hell is Vera and Alice to catch their boss kissing another employee? Mel obviously had a thing for all his southern-talking waitressess.
How were Vera and Alice out of line by walking into their place of work? :confused:

puke: I never knew Mel and Jolene did THAT...what happened to his "puppy toes" aka Marie??


Marie broke up with Mel in '84 (that's the date of actress Victoria Carrol's last appearance)

BTW, this was one WEIRD episode

Marie broke up with Mel in '84 (that's the date of actress Victoria Carrol's last appearance)

BTW, this was one WEIRD episode


Yes jude, very weird-lol


2 Days Left and no more Alice

I was wondering how can Vera and Alice be out of line.

Marie broke up with Mel in '84 (that's the date of actress Victoria Carrol's last appearance)

BTW, this was one WEIRD episode
Thanks for the info, Jude...I was wondering what had happened to Marie.

I was wondering how can Vera and Alice be out of line.
They were not out of line for walking into the diner. But their reaction sure was out of line. It is Mel's and Jolene's business if they kiss and find each other attractive. I mean, what was wrong with Mel? He had his own business, he had his apartment, he was a rugged man, etc. Alice made this face like it was just gross for Jolene to be kissing Mel.

They were not out of line for walking into the diner. But their reaction sure was out of line. It is Mel's and Jolene's business if they kiss and find each other attractive. I mean, what was wrong with Mel? He had his own business, he had his apartment, he was a rugged man, etc. Alice made this face like it was just gross for Jolene to be kissing Mel.


I think it was the AGE factor

I think it was the AGE factor
:lol: Jolene was no teenager.

:lol: Jolene was no teenager.


But wasn't Mel still 20 years older?

They were not out of line for walking into the diner. But their reaction sure was out of line. It is Mel's and Jolene's business if they kiss and find each other attractive. I mean, what was wrong with Mel? He had his own business, he had his apartment, he was a rugged man, etc. Alice made this face like it was just gross for Jolene to be kissing Mel.
ah, ok. I didn't understand what GARFIELDKOOL meant in the beginning. I totally agree with this.

But wasn't Mel still 20 years older?
Jolene appeared (to me) that she was around 29-30 years old. What is up with the age difference Sol? :lol: If she LOOKED Mel's age, I bet you wouldn't have a problem with it.

Jolene appeared (to me) that she was around 29-30 years old. What is up with the age difference Sol? :lol: If she LOOKED Mel's age, I bet you wouldn't have a problem with it.


But I think that's why Alice was grossed out, because of Mel being like a father to them-lol

But I think that's why Alice was grossed out, because of Mel being like a father to them-lol
He was like a father to Vera, not Alice and most definitely not Jolene. :lol:

Jolene appeared (to me) that she was around 29-30 years old. What is up with the age difference Sol? :lol: If she LOOKED Mel's age, I bet you wouldn't have a problem with it.
I don't have problems with a 20-year age difference if it's say, 30 and 50, or 40 and 60, etc. If Jolene was a teenager, it would be a different story.

I don't have problems with a 20-year age difference if it's say, 30 and 50, or 40 and 60, etc. If Jolene was a teenager, it would be a different story.
That's what I say. Besides, Marie LOOKED younger than Jolene and there was no issue there. :lol:

That's what I say. Besides, Marie LOOKED younger than Jolene and there was no issue there. :lol:
Marie did look pretty young, didn't she? :lol:

They were not out of line for walking into the diner. But their reaction sure was out of line. It is Mel's and Jolene's business if they kiss and find each other attractive. I mean, what was wrong with Mel? He had his own business, he had his apartment, he was a rugged man, etc. Alice made this face like it was just gross for Jolene to be kissing Mel.


Alice had this sickening miss I'm so better than you attitude--made me wanna smack her good!:mad:

Marie did look pretty young, didn't she? :lol:

Ya'll recall the tornado while in the cabin episode? Marie was with them and they all crouched together in the bathub? When they used that scene in the opening credits, they somehow erased Marie and inserted Tommy in the scene!!

Ya'll recall the tornado while in the cabin episode? Marie was with them and they all crouched together in the bathub? When they used that scene in the opening credits, they somehow erased Marie and inserted Tommy in the scene!!
I remember that episode. :lol:

that was Funny Jolene Falling For Mel

Alice had this sickening miss I'm so better than you attitude--made me wanna smack her good!:mad:
Same here. :mad:

And that hairstyle of Alice's...puke:
She looked like she was trying for that Gumby look that was so popular in the 80's :rofl:

Same here. :mad:

And that hairstyle of Alice's...puke:
She looked like she was trying for that Gumby look that was so popular in the 80's :rofl:


Yea, just what was up with that hairdon't? :D

Maybe it's just me, but I liked Linda Lavin's other famous character, Det. Janice Wentworth (Barney Miller) much more than Alice. Wentworth didn't take any crap but she wasn't smug and self-righteous, either.

Same here. :mad:

And that hairstyle of Alice's...puke:
She looked like she was trying for that Gumby look that was so popular in the 80's :rofl:
I think her hair looked so much better in the early seasons. I thought in the final season it was kind of an improvement, but I still hated it short.

Maybe it's just me, but I liked Linda Lavin's other famous character, Det. Janice Wentworth (Barney Miller) much more than Alice. Wentworth didn't take any crap but she wasn't smug and self-righteous, either.
I haven't seen any of her other roles but I'm interested. I'd also like to see her guest appearance on Rhoda.

Her hair looked great when it was long. I can't stand short hair on women unless they can pull it off. Linda could not pull it off.

Her hair looked great when it was long. I can't stand short hair on women unless they can pull it off. Linda could not pull it off.
Remember the time on Barney Miller when Wojo ragged on Wentworth because of her hair? :rofl: That's what this discussion made me think of!

Remember the time on Barney Miller when Wojo ragged on Wentworth because of her hair? :rofl: That's what this discussion made me think of!
Wojo was hillarious. :lol: I sure wish BM would come on some channel, imagine the chats we'd be having? :lol:

Wojo was hillarious. :lol: I sure wish BM would come on some channel, imagine the chats we'd be having? :lol:
I know, I know...:( But at least all the Gregory Sierra episodes are on DVD now!! :lol: I wonder how things would've turned out had Wentworth stayed on, even if they had to recast the role when LL left for Alice.

I haven't seen any of her other roles but I'm interested. I'd also like to see her guest appearance on Rhoda.

I would love to see Room for Two again (with Patricia Heaton--wait, is this going to send a signal to Brian Damage for me talking about his hot Patty? :lol:). Linda wore her early Alice long flip do in this show.

I would love to see Room for Two again (with Patricia Heaton--wait, is this going to send a signal to Brian Damage for me talking about his hot Patty? :lol:). Linda wore her early Alice long flip do in this show.
I remember Room for Two...it got a lot of press here in the Cleveland area because that's where Patricia Heaton is from. It was a cute little show, what little of it I remember.

Linda Lavin also was a guest star on Law & Order: Criminal Intent a few years ago - I believe it was the first or second season. LL's Barney Miller co-star Hal Linden appeared on another CI ep around the same time!!

I know, I know...:( But at least all the Gregory Sierra episodes are on DVD now!! :lol: I wonder how things would've turned out had Wentworth stayed on, even if they had to recast the role when LL left for Alice.
I was so disappointed, I had finally started seeing BM regularly on TVLand and they were in the final season, but they had removed the show by season two. Not to mention they skipped the finale.

I was so disappointed, I had finally started seeing BM regularly on TVLand and they were in the final season, but they had removed the show by season two. Not to mention they skipped the finale.
Seasons 1 & 2 of BM are both on DVD, and all 5 of LL's appearances are there! Hope you get to check them out.

I saw a few of the Barney Miller episodes a year or two ago when it was airing on WWME-23 in Chicago, but I don't think they've shown it for awhile now.

I have season one of BM, which reminds me, I got to put Chano's spanish words into english for Monika. ;)

I have season one of BM, which reminds me, I got to put Chano's spanish words into english for Monika. ;)
You better - and there are more Spanish rants for you to translate in Season 2!! :lol: Thanks, Irene.

Seasons 1 & 2 of BM are both on DVD, and all 5 of LL's appearances are there! Hope you get to check them out.
Yeah I was originally disappointed to see that TVLand had also skipped over episode 1. But then I found out season one and now two are on DVD so I felt better about it.

Yeah I was originally disappointed to see that TVLand had also skipped over episode 1. But then I found out season one and now two are on DVD so I felt better about it.
So have you seen the Wentworth episodes yet??