View Full Version : Has All in the Family ever been aired with a TV-14 rating?
James28 03-28-2008, 02:11 AM Because it contained content that is more suited to a TV-14-rated program that a TV-PG-rated program, Has All in the Family ever aired with the TV-14 rating? All in the Family is usually rated TV-PG-DL, but the show having a TV-14 rating has come up to my mind.
Scoobiedoo30 03-29-2008, 12:02 PM I think it should TV-14
treky 03-29-2008, 09:24 PM TV-14 wasn't around in the 70s; either was TV-PG-DL. It wasn't until the 90s that networks started to put ratings on TV shows, and later stations on the sydnicated reruns.
With "AITF" though, I remember CBS showing a disclaimer before certain episodes, and in the promos for some of the episodes in the later seasons; like that 2-part one (which was first shown as an hour) where Archie joined the KKK.
Ireneparalegal 03-29-2008, 09:42 PM ^^^That's what I was going to say. There were NO TV RATINGS BACK THEN. Those were the good ol' days of tv too.
James28 03-30-2008, 01:07 AM No, I was seeing if any post-1996 syndicated reruns that have aired All in the Family with a TV_14 rating. Cimarron Strip, a western, was rated TV-!4 when it is on the Encore Westerns channel.
Ireneparalegal 03-30-2008, 01:08 AM Ohhh, I see. Good question. I never paid attention to the rating.
treky 03-30-2008, 02:29 AM no, I never paid attention to the rating, either.
No, wait. I think NICK AT NITE used to show it with a PG rating.
MOWERDAN 04-01-2008, 12:56 PM The strongest rating I've ever seen for AITF was PG-DL. Every episode has that rating. I think it may have been down-graded to PG in the later seasons. I've never seen it rated as PG-14, though.
It is an interesting question.
AITF had some very adult themes. Is it a good idea to change the rating of this show in reruns that air now?
BigManMike 05-15-2008, 12:50 PM I don't know. On Nick at Nite and TV Land, it was usually TV-PG and occasionally TV-PG-DL. I never saw it TV-14. I actually saw the opening to Archie Bunker's Place on YouTube about 2 years ago, and it was rated TV-G. I wonder if any AITF episodes were TV-G?
mrbig 06-20-2008, 04:10 PM ^^^That's what I was going to say. There were NO TV RATINGS BACK THEN. Those were the good ol' days of tv too.
I agree with you 100%.
James28 04-05-2017, 08:44 AM Last Tuesday, I noticed that All in the Family is, in fact, airing with a TV-14 rating on Sundance Channel. Some episodes of AitF have the "L" sub-rating. I think Sundance Channel must be airing the uncut, original-broadcast versions of the AitF episodes.
Fear of being given a TV-14 rating is the reason why programs are edited for content.
Svenfan1234 04-05-2017, 10:07 AM Sundance also rates it TV-PG. Antenna does too. Lighten up Francis. :rolleyes:
Svenfan1234 04-05-2017, 11:09 AM Fear of being given a TV-14 rating is the reason why programs are edited for content.
Where's the proof to this statement? In syndication shows are not edited for content. They are edited for commercial time only.
Dude111 04-05-2017, 09:32 PM ^^^That's what I was going to say. There were NO TV RATINGS BACK THEN. Those were the good ol' days of tv too.Indeed.....Beautiful analogue :)
James28 04-23-2017, 11:57 PM Sundance also rates it TV-PG. Antenna does too. Lighten up Francis. :rolleyes:
Nope, all AitF episodes are rated TV-14 on Sundance. Stop intentionally getting facts wrong, please.
Svenfan1234 04-24-2017, 09:12 AM Nope, all AitF episodes are rated TV-14 on Sundance. Stop intentionally getting facts wrong, please.
Nope.
http://www.sundance.tv/schedule#day/2017/05/02
All in the Family is rated both TV-14 and TV-PG on Sundance. Sorry to disappoint you.
Svenfan1234 04-24-2017, 09:20 AM http://www.sundance.tv/films/all-in-the-family
Even further proof of them rating it TV-PG and not TV-14 so Iḿ not sure why they don´t rate it that way on TV. It´s never been aired as TV-14 so I´m not sure why you´re getting worked up over something like this. :lol:
tenter 04-24-2017, 10:34 AM .... so I´m not sure why you´re getting worked up over something like this. :lol:
Like wow, youre only a high school boy, and picking fights with James28?
Svenfan1234 04-24-2017, 11:05 AM Like wow, youre only a high school boy, and picking fights with James28?
:confused: What does my age have to do with anything?
James28 04-24-2017, 05:25 PM http://www.sundance.tv/films/all-in-the-family
Even further proof of them rating it TV-PG and not TV-14 so Iḿ not sure why they don´t rate it that way on TV. It´s never been aired as TV-14 so I´m not sure why you´re getting worked up over something like this. :lol:
Maybe if you actually turned to Sundance Channel to watch the AitF episodes (which are the uncut, original broadcast versions) every Tuesday morning, you will see that the small box on the upper-left corner of the screen does, in fact, say "TV-14" (contrary to what it says on the website). I also checked the programming guide, and it says "TV-14" there.
Plus, I am just trying to have conversations on the subjects I want to discuss on this forum, and I do not need to have you literally being the only user to respond to my posts here while there are hundreds of other users on this forum. I was the one who started this thread several years ago, and once I found out that AitF was airing on Sundance with a TV-14 rating for real, I wanted to inform the members of this forum about it, and see what those members think.
Svenfan1234 04-24-2017, 05:41 PM Maybe if you actually turned to Sundance Channel to watch the AitF episodes (which are the uncut, original broadcast versions) every Tuesday morning, you will see that the small box on the upper-left corner of the screen does, in fact, say "TV-14" (contrary to what it says on the website). I also checked the programming guide, and it says "TV-14" there.
Plus, I am just trying to have conversations on the subjects I want to discuss on this forum, and I do not need to have you literally being the only user to respond to my posts here while there are hundreds of other users on this forum. I was the one who started this thread several years ago, and once I found out that AitF was airing on Sundance with a TV-14 rating for real, I wanted to inform the members of this forum about it, and see what those members think.
Then why attack me?
I was just pointing out that from Sundance's website, not ALL episodes are TV-14 anyway. Doesn't matter. Always been PG on every other channel--cable channels can rate a show, or movie, whatever they deem appropriate. A lot don't go by the original. Some do, but a lot just do a generic. And also, in an echo to an earlier post, syndicated shows are cut for time not content. All in the Family only has about 2 1/2 minutes cut out of each episode, and for time not because the content is "too much." If you have any proof to back up what you are saying about all syndicated shows cut for content, I'd love to see it.
Watch Laff for instance. They air shows that are rated TV-14-D-L sometimes like Roseanne, Spin City or Grace Under Fire, but they aren't edited for content. Like I said, you said that all syndicated shows are "fearful of being edited for content" which is simply not true.
tenter 04-24-2017, 05:53 PM Then why attack me?
I was just pointing out that from Sundance's website, not ALL episodes are TV-14 anyway. Doesn't matter. Always been PG on every other channel--cable channels can rate a show, or movie, whatever they deem appropriate. A lot don't go by the original. Some do, but a lot just do a generic. And also, in an echo to an earlier post, syndicated shows are cut for time not content. All in the Family only has about 2 1/2 minutes cut out of each episode, and for time not because the content is "too much." If you have any proof to back up what you are saying about all syndicated shows cut for content, I'd love to see it.
Watch Laff for instance. They air shows that are rated TV-14-D-L sometimes like Roseanne, Spin City or Grace Under Fire, but they aren't edited for content. Like I said, you said that all syndicated shows are "fearful of being edited for content" which is simply not true.
Do you have Sundance channel? Try and watch and see that some episodes All in the Family is TV-14 rather than generalizing your point, I think James28 may be right..
Svenfan1234 04-24-2017, 06:58 PM Do you have Sundance channel? Try and watch and see that some episodes All in the Family is TV-14 rather than generalizing your point, I think James28 may be right..
You just made my point for me. Thanks.
BigManMike 04-24-2017, 11:36 PM I don't have Sundance but I did see the schedule on Zap2it that showed AITF with a TV-14 rating most of the time. I wonder why Sundance is so strict and gives it a TV-14 rating when most other networks gave it TV-PG? And I have never seen an episode of Archie Bunker's Place yet but I have found some episodes online from a local UPN station years ago that aired it with a TV-G rating. Does Archie Bunker's Place not have as many adult themes as All in the Family so that it can slide with a TV-G rating?
peppypacer 05-01-2017, 09:49 PM I remember before one episode on the original run they had a disclaimer about language before it started. It was the one about the draft dodger who was having Christmas dinner with the Bunkers and a friend of Archie's who lost a son in the Vietnam War was also there. At one point Archie is raging mad and says something like 'I don't care about that god d--n war.' In all the repeats the gd words gets edited out.
Svenfan1234 05-01-2017, 09:53 PM I remember before one episode on the original run they had a disclaimer about language before it started. It was the one about the draft dodger who was having Christmas dinner with the Bunkers and a friend of Archie's who lost a son in the Vietnam War was also there. At one point Archie is raging mad and says something like 'I don't care about that god d--n war.' In all the repeats the gd words gets edited out.
It remains intact on Antenna TV's airings.
treky 05-02-2017, 12:22 AM I remember before one episode on the original run they had a disclaimer about language before it started. It was the one about the draft dodger who was having Christmas dinner with the Bunkers and a friend of Archie's who lost a son in the Vietnam War was also there. At one point Archie is raging mad and says something like 'I don't care about that god d--n war.' In all the repeats the gd words gets edited out.
are you sure? Because I remember it in its original run on CBS and the only times it had a disclaimer was in its first season.
BigManMike 05-02-2017, 07:17 AM That was a Season 7 episode about a draft dodger. And to my knowledge, I've only heard it aired with it being dubbed over as "rotten damn" instead of g d. I don't think it ever aired without being censored and changed. I only recall reading the show had a disclaimer when it first started but I never saw it since it was way before my time.
visaman666 05-03-2017, 02:36 AM Before the first episode of the series. CBS ran a disclaimer that said in effect that this was a program for adults.
treky 05-03-2017, 02:52 AM I think it was before every episode in the first season, not just the first episode
James28 05-05-2017, 10:48 PM Then why attack me?
I was just pointing out that from Sundance's website, not ALL episodes are TV-14 anyway. Doesn't matter. Always been PG on every other channel--cable channels can rate a show, or movie, whatever they deem appropriate. A lot don't go by the original. Some do, but a lot just do a generic. And also, in an echo to an earlier post, syndicated shows are cut for time not content. All in the Family only has about 2 1/2 minutes cut out of each episode, and for time not because the content is "too much." If you have any proof to back up what you are saying about all syndicated shows cut for content, I'd love to see it.
Watch Laff for instance. They air shows that are rated TV-14-D-L sometimes like Roseanne, Spin City or Grace Under Fire, but they aren't edited for content. Like I said, you said that all syndicated shows are "fearful of being edited for content" which is simply not true.
By you being the only user to respond to my posts instead of other users giving their opinions, I often get lured into arguments/disputes I'm not willing to get into, so I get upset by this sometimes.
When I started this thread, I had this idea that scripted TV shows that aired before 1980 had to be rated either TV-G or TV-PG, so it was unusual for such TV shows to receive a higher content rating (which is usually reserved for feature films; for example, an R-rated film gets edited for content and assigned a TV-14 rating to avoid a TV-MA; if that film were to air uncut/unedited, it will be assigned a TV-MA).
Svenfan1234 05-05-2017, 10:57 PM By you being the only user to respond to my posts instead of other users giving their opinions, I often get lured into arguments/disputes I'm not willing to get into, so I get upset by this sometimes.
When I started this thread, I had this idea that scripted TV shows that aired before 1980 had to be rated either TV-G or TV-PG, so it was unusual for such TV shows to receive a higher content rating (which is usually reserved for feature films; for example, an R-rated film gets edited for content and assigned a TV-14 rating to avoid a TV-MA; if that film were to air uncut/unedited, it will be assigned a TV-MA).
Pretty much pre-1980 movies don't for the most part have ratings so they just go generic. I'll agree, that movies do get edited for content but it isn't true that movies are rated TV-MA. I've seen them rated as TV-PG and TV-14 mostly but never TV-MA. I'm just saying that you're totally wrong about TV shows being edited for content, though. That statement is just laughable lol. Sundance wasn't around when AITF first aired, so they are just rating it TV-14 "just in case." On all other stations, including CBS when it first aired, it was rated TV-PG.
tenter 05-05-2017, 10:57 PM By you being the only user to respond to my posts instead of other users giving their opinions, I often get lured into arguments/disputes I'm not willing to get into, so I get upset by this sometimes.
When I started this thread, I had this idea that scripted TV shows that aired before 1980 had to be rated either TV-G or TV-PG, so it was unusual for such TV shows to receive a higher content rating (which is usually reserved for feature films; for example, an R-rated film gets edited for content and assigned a TV-14 rating to avoid a TV-MA; if that film were to air uncut/unedited, it will be assigned a TV-MA).
In case you didn't see this, Svenfan later apologized, I think
Do you have Sundance channel? Try and watch and see that some episodes All in the Family is TV-14 rather than generalizing your point, I think James28 may be right..
You just made my point for me. Thanks.
BigManMike 05-06-2017, 01:22 PM So I wonder why is Sundance so strict and gives AITF a TV-14 rating when it's always been TV-PG other places?
BigManMike 04-30-2018, 11:12 PM I noticed Get TV also gives it a TV-14-L rating. Seems kind of strict. Wouldn’t TV-PG for more?
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