The people at Guinness sure do. I was just curious if anybody else thinks that this Irish celebration should be made into an official holiday?

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Hell to the no. I am a self proclaimed St. Patrick's day hater. It's the most pointless holiday there is and just another excuse for people to go out and get drunk. On top of that, why should Irish people get their own holiday and not anyone else? And what makes St. Patrick any better than the other saints that his day should get all the hype? There are tons of other Saint's days that don't even get recognized. It's so dumb on so many levels. If it's made an official holiday I'll probably just shoot myself. Make Cinco de Mayo an official holiday in America too, then, while they're at it.

Hell to the no. I am a self proclaimed St. Patrick's day hater. It's the most pointless holiday there is and just another excuse for people to go out and get drunk. On top of that, why should Irish people get their own holiday and not anyone else? And what makes St. Patrick any better than the other saints that his day should get all the hype? There are tons of other Saint's days that don't even get recognized. It's so dumb on so many levels. If it's made an official holiday I'll probably just shoot myself. Make Cinco de Mayo an official holiday in America too, then, while they're at it.

Totally agree. All these stupid sot's going out to drink themselves to death if they weren't already losing enough brain cells already. They turn every holiday (New Years, etc) into a binge drinking party and nobody can have good clean fun anymore. I'm not talking about people who have a casual beer or other alcohol beverages at a responsible level, but the idiots who binge drink and stuff. On New Years Eve I almost got hit really hard by someone (i am assuming it was a drunk, the way they were weaving), so i cant imagine how St. Patricks day will be on the road. Anyway, i hope they don't proclaim this day as a holiday, for all the lazy people who just want an excuse to not go to work and drink all night.

Someone at Guinesss had too much to drink. :rolleyes:

Lol, i love how those beer/alcohol websites have that date of birth thing to enter. They dont know we can just lie? lol

I am irish and I don't care if its a holiday or not I am not much of a drinker or a party person either.:D

As much as I enjoy the Holiday, I doubt it will ever become a national holiday.

Besides, in this modern secular society, there is no way a Catholic Saint is going to get a holiday.

;)

Hell to the no. I am a self proclaimed St. Patrick's day hater. It's the most pointless holiday there is and just another excuse for people to go out and get drunk. On top of that, why should Irish people get their own holiday and not anyone else? And what makes St. Patrick any better than the other saints that his day should get all the hype? There are tons of other Saint's days that don't even get recognized. It's so dumb on so many levels. If it's made an official holiday I'll probably just shoot myself. Make Cinco de Mayo an official holiday in America too, then, while they're at it.
Cinco de Mayo is much like 4th of July here in America. But I agree, considering this is Guinness, it is obvious what the real reason is behind their wanting St. Patty's an official holiday. :crazy: :cheers:

Cinco de Mayo is much like 4th of July here in America. But I agree, considering this is Guinness, it is obvious what the real reason is behind their wanting St. Patty's an official holiday. :crazy: :cheers:

After seeing how much Guinness my friends consume on a weekly basis, Guinness doesn't need a one day a year holiday to push thier product.

;)

After seeing how much Guinness my friends consume on a weekly basis, Guinness doesn't need a one day a year holiday to push thier product.

;)
:lol: Thank you. It's not like Guiness is slow in sales. Pleeeeeeze. :crazy: As if enough people don't drink enough already on unofficial holidays. ;)

Cinco de Mayo is much like 4th of July here in America. But I agree, considering this is Guinness, it is obvious what the real reason is behind their wanting St. Patty's an official holiday. :crazy: :cheers:
yeah I know, I'm just joking to prove a point...what's with all the Irish hype anyway?

Hell to the no. I am a self proclaimed St. Patrick's day hater. It's the most pointless holiday there is and just another excuse for people to go out and get drunk. On top of that, why should Irish people get their own holiday and not anyone else? And what makes St. Patrick any better than the other saints that his day should get all the hype? There are tons of other Saint's days that don't even get recognized. It's so dumb on so many levels. If it's made an official holiday I'll probably just shoot myself. Make Cinco de Mayo an official holiday in America too, then, while they're at it.
Sounds like a good opinion to me.

as someone with Irish heritage, I am sick of how people convieniently have forgotten what the Irish people went through at the turn of the century in the 1900's. Of all the persecuted groups, they are the one group that people least find sympathy for ("what's with all this Irish hype anyways", let's see if someone makes a comment about Hispanic pride for Cinco de Mayo... oh wait, that's "different" :rolleyes: ) and we're painted as a bunch of beer-drinkers, etc... If MLK and Cinco De Mayo are celebrated for being important days for African Americans and Mexican-Americans respectably, why is it wrong for Irish-Americans to have our day as well? Just because Irish people hail from Europe doesn't mean they had an easy ride when they came over here. Irish people were treated as bottom of the barrel 100 years ago.

Going through school, I had two girls as classmates. Both were Irish -- well, Canadian, but first generation, so the roots were pretty strong. One was green, the other orange. And yes, they both wore their colors on St. Patrick's day. And hated each other. And fought endlessly.

Of course, the tempers aren't as hot today as they were 25-30 years ago. But maybe it's still a little early to start making it a holiday. Unfortunately.

I like it the way it is, and wow with the stereotyping of Irish as drunks going on. Next up, the All Jews are Cheap, thread. In the South End of Boston, better known as "Southie". Think, Good Will Hunting and Mystic River, there's a LOT of Irish pride. They have a huge St. Patrick's Day parade every year. It's nice. I'm just about all Irish myself, and I don't even drink, nor do most of my family.

I didn't say Irish people were drunks I said it's a day for people as a whole to say oh, let's go out and get drunk. Actually I don't think ANYONE in this thread pointed out that Irish people in particular were drunks. Not sure where people got that. As for Irish people going through a lot when they got here, so did the Italians, Poles, Hungarians...you name it. They don't get their own holiday, though. So yeah, what IS with all the Irish hype? Why do they get their day and not the others I mentioned. As for other holidays dedicated to minorities, gonna have to say those are stupid too. Every group of people has had their hardships, yet only some seem to get recognized and that bothers me.

I didn't say Irish people were drunks I said it's a day for people as a whole to say oh, let's go out and get drunk. Actually I don't think ANYONE in this thread pointed out that Irish people in particular were drunks. Not sure where people got that. As for Irish people going through a lot when they got here, so did the Italians, Poles, Hungarians...you name it. They don't get their own holiday, though. So yeah, what IS with all the Irish hype? Why do they get their day and not the others I mentioned. As for other holidays dedicated to minorities, gonna have to say those are stupid too. Every group of people has had their hardships, yet only some seem to get recognized and that bothers me.
Good post. Gotta give the Muslims their holiday, the Puerto Ricans, the American Indians, hell they are the original and true Americans my God they should have ONE OFFICIAL HOLIDAY. Let's see who else? Oh the chinese, the japanese. During WW2 the japanese were put in camps! And those were the JAPANESE AMERICANS!!! Citizens of the U.S. were being put in camps simply because they were japanese. :crazy: Who else? :lol: Every group of people has had their moments in history where they were treated worse than dirt. Irish are not the only ones.

It's not about the treatment of the Irish way back when. It's about celebrating their heritage, and there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's fantastic. While St. Patrick's Day is an official holiday in Ireland, I don't think it should be one here. But yeah, bring on the parades, the green beer and everything else that goes along with it. If other groups want to celebrate their heritage, that would be fantastic as well. Nobody's stopping them. Who cares, or why should anyone care. Freedom of speech and all that good stuff.

So yeah, what IS with all the Irish hype? Why do they get their day and not the others I mentioned. As for other holidays dedicated to minorities, gonna have to say those are stupid too. Every group of people has had their hardships, yet only some seem to get recognized and that bothers me.
Do you think "what is with all the African-American hype" during MLK and Black History Month? (And lets face it, the media celebrates that more than St. Patricks Day... when was the last time MTV had an all-U2 day for St. Patricks Day?) Irish-Americans are just as entitled to their heritage as African-Americans, Native Americans and Hispanic people are... nobody ever questions the "hype" those groups have at staying true to themselves. But how ****ing dare Irish people have "pride", simply because the blanket assumption that all European groups had it easy, right?

Originally Posted by *Pleasant Tomorrow*
So yeah, what IS with all the Irish hype?
I seriously think that is rather insensitive. It's not "hype."

I seriously think that is rather insensitive. It's not "hype."
I agree. It's like "how dare a group that isn't African-American, Hispanic or Native American dare try to stick to their roots". There's nothing wrong when you see African-Americans "keeping it real", and there's nothing wrong when you see Hispanics and Native Americans who refuse to assimilate to "American culture", but.... give Irish people one day a year where they are openly proud of their heritage and it's hype? WTF....

I wasn't too sure about all the specifics, so I did do some research a bit earlier. John is right, it's also a religious holiday, big parades are thrown and there are feasts with Irish food dishes to help celebrate the heritage and the culture. It is not just a day to be all "OMFG LETZ GET WAST3D ON DE GREENE BEERZ!!!1"

It's not about the treatment of the Irish way back when. It's about celebrating their heritage, and there's nothing wrong with that.
You are right. It is not abt the treatment of the Irish or any other group way back when. Which is why the comments were posted abt how ridiculous it would be to make St. Patty's day a holiday here. It is in Ireland of course, but here, it would be another day off from work and possibly another day off from school. Is that what Guiness wants? Or do they want to capitalize on a day that is held in high regard in Ireland and cheapen it to a day to where people can take the day off and drink? I highly doubt Guiness cares abt the heritage of Irish people. The only green they care abt is $$$$.

St. Patty's is celebrated, it is not ignored. When I was in catholic school we learned abt St. Patrick and the meaning behind the day. We wore green and had fun.

You are right. It is not abt the treatment of the Irish or any other group way back when. Which is why the comments were posted abt how ridiculous it would be to make St. Patty's day a holiday here. It is in Ireland of course, but here, it would be another day off from work and possibly another day off from school. Is that what Guiness wants? Or do they want to capitalize on a day that is held in high regard in Ireland and cheapen it to a day to where people can take the day off and drink? I highly doubt Guiness cares abt the heritage of Irish people. The only green they care abt is $$$$.

St. Patty's is celebrated, it is not ignored. When I was in catholic school we learned abt St. Patrick and the meaning behind the day. We wore green and had fun.
I know it's celebrated, and a few people are quite pissed about it, and not just the idea of making it a holiday. I don't think it should be a holiday, and as stated, Guiness doesn't need the day to be made a national holiday for $$$. They clean up that day anyway. I don't think anyone has stated that they want it to be a national holiday anyway.

I know it's celebrated, and a few people are quite pissed about it, and not just the idea of making it a holiday. I don't think it should be a holiday, and as stated, Guiness doesn't need the day to be made a national holiday for $$$. They clean up that day anyway. I don't think anyone has stated that they want it to be a national holiday anyway.
I had never heard of the idea of making it a national holiday, until this thread came up and the question was asked. So, in answering the question, I don't think it needs to be a national holiday. It would only bring up the issue of other days not getting recognition.

Do you think "what is with all the African-American hype" during MLK and Black History Month? (And lets face it, the media celebrates that more than St. Patricks Day... when was the last time MTV had an all-U2 day for St. Patricks Day?) Irish-Americans are just as entitled to their heritage as African-Americans, Native Americans and Hispanic people are... nobody ever questions the "hype" those groups have at staying true to themselves. But how ****ing dare Irish people have "pride", simply because the blanket assumption that all European groups had it easy, right?
Um yeah, actually I do think that during those other holidays. Anything singling certain groups out above others is stupid to me. Irish people can have all the damn pride they want, but why do they get their own holiday for it is all I'm saying.

I seriously think that is rather insensitive. It's not "hype."
How is that insensitive? It kind of is hype...Irish heritage is being made out to be something better than the others.

I'm seriously not trying to offend anyone either...just making that clear. I just think it's unfair that only certain ethnic groups get recognized...whether its Irish, African American...whatever. Don't get me wrong, I think it's absolutely great to be proud of your heritage and to celebrate it...but it's like this country only recognizes some groups as being special. It bothers me and I think I have a right to feel that way.

It's not about the treatment of the Irish way back when. It's about celebrating their heritage, and there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's fantastic. While St. Patrick's Day is an official holiday in Ireland, I don't think it should be one here. But yeah, bring on the parades, the green beer and everything else that goes along with it. If other groups want to celebrate their heritage, that would be fantastic as well. Nobody's stopping them. Who cares, or why should anyone care. Freedom of speech and all that good stuff.


I absolutely agree. I don't get the hate for St. Patrick's Day, I really don't. Here in NYC, we have every kind of day there is possible for almost every race of people. lol

Who has hate for St. Patty's day? :eek:

as someone with Irish heritage, I am sick of how people convieniently have forgotten what the Irish people went through at the turn of the century in the 1900's. Of all the persecuted groups, they are the one group that people least find sympathy for ("what's with all this Irish hype anyways", let's see if someone makes a comment about Hispanic pride for Cinco de Mayo... oh wait, that's "different" :rolleyes: ) and we're painted as a bunch of beer-drinkers, etc... If MLK and Cinco De Mayo are celebrated for being important days for African Americans and Mexican-Americans respectably, why is it wrong for Irish-Americans to have our day as well? Just because Irish people hail from Europe doesn't mean they had an easy ride when they came over here. Irish people were treated as bottom of the barrel 100 years ago.
Having a day for the Irish people is fine, but what Americans have turned it into is a bit sad. It's more about Green Beer and Partying than remembering what anyone went through. MLK day is not like that at ALL.

How is that insensitive? It kind of is hype...Irish heritage is being made out to be something better than the others.
do you think the same thing about Black History Month? How about when the Hispanics celebrate Cinco De Mayo in America? If being African-American or being Hispanic is being made out to be "better", than why not Irish people too?

do you think the same thing about Black History Month? How about when the Hispanics celebrate Cinco De Mayo in America? If being African-American or being Hispanic is being made out to be "better", than why not Irish people too?
I don't think that was said or meant. No one said any other holiday is better or less warranted. Cinco De Mayo is just another day for people to drink. Sorry to say that, but when people are asked what is Cinco De Mayo, they haven't a clue. They just know to celebrate and they celebrate by drinking. I know what it is, but it doesn't bother me that other people haven't a clue as to the historic story behind the holiday.

Guinness wanting a petition to make St. Patrick's day an official holiday sounds very iffy to me. I think that is where your anger should lie John. They don't seem to care abt the meaning behind the holiday, as long as people celebrate the day by drinking their beer. :crazy:

St. Patty's Day is the cat's pajamas. Meow!

Guinness wanting a petition to make St. Patrick's day an official holiday sounds very iffy to me. I think that is where your anger should lie John. They don't seem to care abt the meaning behind the holiday, as long as people celebrate the day by drinking their beer. :crazy:

Thats how i feel. If Guiness could give me a paragraph long story about the reason they feel it should be made a holiday (in celebration for the irish, what the irish has done for America) then i would actually be all for making it a holiday. The fact that they are using this day for the mere consumption of their beer is really what is messed up.

Having a day for the Irish people is fine, but what Americans have turned it into is a bit sad. It's more about Green Beer and Partying than remembering what anyone went through. MLK day is not like that at ALL.

Thats right. Christmas Eve on my dad's side of the family has pretty much turned into a drink fest. Everyone is drunk Christmas Eve night, it sickens me to the point where i don't want to go to the family get together anymore. In order to have fun they have to drink. Same with New Years and Thanksgiving. It's all about alcohol consumption. It sickens me people don't know the true reasons behind these holidays anymore. It's just a new day to binge drink.

I don't think that was said or meant. No one said any other holiday is better or less warranted. Cinco De Mayo is just another day for people to drink. Sorry to say that, but when people are asked what is Cinco De Mayo, they haven't a clue. They just know to celebrate and they celebrate by drinking. I know what it is, but it doesn't bother me that other people haven't a clue as to the historic story behind the holiday.

Thanks...that's not what I meant at all and I thought I made it pretty clear that all of those holidays/dedication months are pretty unfair.

I would say at least with St. Patricks Day, it's a time of celebration. You don;t see endless specials about how horrible Anglo-Americans treated the Irish. Compare this to Black History Month when countless documentaries and movies are shown which are meant to make white people feel bad about what our ancestors (not mine, my mom's parents came from Canada and my dad's grandparents came from Ireland to Ellis Island) did to them in the slavery days and the Civil Rights movement. At least St. Patricks Day is used as a day of fun, instead of a day of remembering how horrible things used to be. Don't get me wrong, I think Black History Month is justified, but I do think they do go overboard with airing old movies and documentaries that make white people feel like ****, and only encourages black youth to abhor and hate white people (and trust me, I see a lot of racism on boards towards white people).