View Full Version : Jefferson vs. Steve


EJL
06-02-2001, 10:24 PM
Which character did you like better palying Marcy's husband Jefferson D'Aracy or Steve Rhodes.

Madness
06-03-2001, 12:57 AM
Steve had his good moments but I'd have to say Jefferson. They both were good though.

theshark8777
06-03-2001, 01:04 AM
Definitely Steve, the earlier episodes with Steve were much better.

APPLEI
06-03-2001, 01:21 AM
STEVE!
AFTER STEVE LEFT MARRIED WITH CHILDREN WAS'NT THE SAME FOR ME.
MARRIED WITH CHILDREN JUMPED THE SHARK WHEN STEVE QUIT THE SHOW!

[This message has been edited by APPLEI (edited 08-27-2001).]

Bloodsucking Bernie
09-27-2001, 12:54 PM
Jefferson was cool but Steve was funnier practically funny were the episode he returned.

TMC
10-17-2001, 02:28 AM
I might as well as Steve since we all know that if you're looking for your show to get canceled anytime soon then hire Ted McGinley to put forth a mysterious jinx.

BUNDYBOY
11-05-2001, 06:14 PM
Jefferson was much more funnier than Steve but I think Steve was more Classical and a mamas boy than Jefferson But Jefferson made the show seem more 90s than 80s.

Daydreamer18
01-20-2002, 02:50 PM
I have to agree with BundyBoy! Jefferson was WAY more funnier than Steve and he made the show more modern.

DJM77
01-20-2002, 04:51 PM
I also liked Jefferson better.

Pitooey
01-20-2002, 08:25 PM
I hate to say this but, Steve was better. Even though I like Ted McGinley who played Jefferson. :cool:

SoFl123
05-04-2002, 05:43 PM
i like Jefferson better, cuz the first episodes i ever saw of Married with children were with Jefferson. i became a fan years after it debuted in 1987. after Steve left.

Will and Grace Fanatic
05-07-2002, 03:27 PM
I think Steve was better because it was like you could tell he was in love with Marcy but Jefferson was a man slut. I still watched after Steve left but the Steve episodes were so much funnier and better.

80sTrivia
05-24-2002, 08:44 PM
I liked Jefferson better. He had more of a personality than Steve, who I thought was a bit boring. I also liked the chemistry between Marcy and Jefferson better as well!

john1007
05-27-2002, 11:59 AM
I been watching the show ever since it debuted in 1987. I seen every episode except the one that was never aired in the United States called, "I'll see you in court" (EP. 308). It is finally going to air on television in the U.S. June 18th on FX. Check your local listings for start times. You can also go to fx.com for more information. I really never had a favorite character on the show. I loved all the characters. They made me laugh like heck. LMAO Although I like the whole cast, I do favor episodes over others. One of my favorites shows was when that driver cut Steve off with Peg in the car with him. Peg gave him the middle finger and he followed Steve home....LOL The whole time it was just a midget.....LMAO :)

SBTB Geek
05-27-2002, 12:20 PM
Jefferson.

Fonz327
07-12-2002, 02:00 AM
Steve

Crimson and Clover
08-08-2002, 02:41 PM
id have to say jefferson

FoxTailMusic
01-21-2003, 05:58 AM
Jefferson, although Steve had a lot of funny moments. I liked the episode where he came back as the park rangers and was hiding from the FBI. The exchange between he, Marcy, and Jefferson was classic. :lol:

Scoobiedoo30
01-21-2003, 04:35 PM
I like Jefferson The second husband on Married With Children


Aaron

Brian Damage
01-29-2003, 02:36 PM
I liked them both, but Steve was probably a better fit for Al.

Tuesday Weld
02-05-2003, 11:36 PM
Without a doubt,Jefferson;) Steve was so nerdy and Jefferson was hot:D

Classic FOL Fanatic
02-09-2003, 04:10 PM
Jefferson

HDfanLiz
03-19-2003, 09:15 PM
Jefferson was funnier, IMO.

M82A1
06-06-2003, 08:21 PM
Steve wasn't really funny :sleep2::barf:. The later episodes with Jefferson were WAY more funny! :stooges:

patriot:

Christopher
07-05-2003, 02:44 PM
Jefferson

Lizzie McGuire
07-11-2003, 08:26 PM
i said Jefferson

rlm1626
09-17-2003, 08:54 PM
They were both WAY funny! Steve was funny because he was likely to be the butt of pranks, and Jefferson was funny in a lot of ways. I especially love the way he would make fun of Marcy behind her back.

JimmyB
10-07-2003, 06:33 PM
I like Jefferson,but it's a lot easier to relate to Steve for me.Steve Rhoades rules!

Chain Gang Member
10-29-2003, 11:58 AM
Steve,Marcy became an evil gremlin after.:talk:

ATF
11-08-2003, 02:12 AM
Jefferson was funnier

xxspedxx
12-05-2003, 12:01 AM
Jefferson was a lot funnier in the show. Steve seemed too one dementional to me, Jefferson was a lot more like Al, and made the show a lot more funny.

randsta
04-18-2004, 11:59 AM
Jefferson all the way, the way he was scared of Marcy was quality alot funnier than Steve:lol:

katefandream04
04-30-2004, 10:17 PM
STEVE

Lady T
04-30-2004, 10:23 PM
JEFFERSON...He was so handsome...;)

allen
05-06-2004, 08:53 PM
Jefferson. When he showed up, Marcy became tougher and would respond to Al's insults more. She rarely did that with Steve there.

Bea
07-20-2004, 09:30 AM
Jefferson all the way, he was really hot.

Race's Girl
02-04-2005, 09:30 AM
Jefferson all the way, he was really hot.

I think that Jefferson was a hottie too

RLohrer
02-08-2005, 12:16 PM
I think they were with better with Steve; they were more consistently funny with him tham Jefferson. At least they brought him back for 4 episodes after he left; wish they could have had a last show with him. His last appearance on Radio Free Trumaine wasn't one of the best.

Skywalker
02-09-2005, 01:27 AM
Steve.

x3 Taylor x3
02-11-2005, 09:20 PM
Jefferson because, yes, he was VERY handsome, and also I like the more recent episodes I guess.

KJH278
02-12-2005, 05:04 PM
Jefferson by a mile

916suzanne
05-07-2005, 04:58 PM
i liked steve because, him and marcy together made an odd couple. it was funny when al and the whole family made fun of them. they seamed almost brother and sister which portrayed them even weirder! :banana: ......but then when jefferson came (what kind of name is that anyway) the couple were sex addicts. it as if marcy came out of her shell and became just as weird as the bundys. omg: :grineyes:
over-all, i liked steve/marcy better because they were more funny and made the bundy family seam more strange. :mooner:

hpluba
05-16-2005, 11:39 PM
I honestly don't care. The show was still funny with both! Besides, I like them both for different reasons.

needles1987
03-04-2008, 02:00 PM
I always preferred Jefferson.

Mikado
03-04-2008, 03:06 PM
I prefered Steve, by a long shot

Augustus McCrae
03-05-2008, 05:11 PM
I always thought they both brought something good to the show. I lean towards Jefferson because he was more of a running buddy for Al in the later shows. Some of the stuff they got into was great! One seen I loved with Jefferson was when they were at the nudey bar and a stripper comes sliding down a pole legs spread wide open(hope I can say that on here) and the next thing is here comes Jefferson sliding down the pole face first right after her!

TVFactFan
03-05-2008, 05:36 PM
I always thought they both brought something good to the show. I lean towards Jefferson because he was more of a running buddy for Al in the later shows. Some of the stuff they got into was great! One seen I loved with Jefferson was when they were at the nudey bar and a stripper comes sliding down a pole legs spread wide open(hope I can say that on here) and the next thing is here comes Jefferson sliding down the pole face first right after her!



I preferred STEVE because it was the perfect mix of characters. They both looked at each other like-"YOU ARE A MESS" and that's what I liked about the interaction. With Jefferson, it seems like they never really found fault with one another

needles1987
03-05-2008, 06:29 PM
Jefferson was selfish and only married Marcy for her money.

camdog
03-07-2008, 02:15 AM
I like steve he was pretty funny and how he and al would get into a lot of mischiefs in the past 4 seasons especially the poker game in season 1. No doubt about it steve.

Elizabeth Eden
04-13-2008, 04:02 AM
I think they were funny in their own way, but Jefferson was my favorite. He was just hilarious in a smart-ass way, Steve was more of the straight man with sarcastic kind of humor.

BarneyFife
04-13-2008, 12:31 PM
I liked Jefferson better, I thought he was funnier.

floyd2006
04-14-2008, 04:04 PM
Steve by far. I have always felt that steve had a some type of connection with steve.

BarneyFife
04-14-2008, 04:33 PM
Steve by far. I have always felt that steve had a some type of connection with steve.:confused:

floyd2006
04-16-2008, 01:44 PM
Sorry I meant to say "I have always felt that AL had a some type of connection with steve."

KurtfromPitts
04-16-2008, 02:14 PM
I voted for Jefferson. Steve was okay, but I just plain prefer Jefferson.

GARFIELDKOOL
05-11-2008, 06:43 PM
I liked Steve better. He had more chemistry with Marcy. Jefferson at times could be a little corny and over the top. Didn't Steve make a guest appearance later in the years with a beard?

floyd2006
05-12-2008, 09:09 PM
I liked Steve better. He had more chemistry with Marcy. Jefferson at times could be a little corny and over the top. Didn't Steve make a guest appearance later in the years with a beard?

I know that steve had an beard in "The Razor's Edge" when he was still in the cast but im not sure about when he was guest.

Race's Girl
06-24-2008, 07:50 AM
I liked Jefferson better, I thought he was funnier.

Yeah, Jefferson was better

Benny JR
07-28-2008, 08:14 AM
Jefferson - sooo much hotter!!!

LuLu Rogers
10-14-2008, 02:24 AM
Jefferson, no contest!

Tinalilly1975
10-17-2008, 06:27 PM
I voted for Jefferson :)

Just because I think that the comedy was better between Marcy & Jefferson than Marcy & Steve. The way Jefferson would laugh when Al put Marcy down...lol


PLUS Jefferson was way hottier :D

I Remember
10-18-2008, 11:59 AM
I vote Jefferson. He brought a little more energy than Steve, and was funnier.

BTO
10-18-2008, 12:31 PM
Jefferson

TMC
05-26-2014, 09:13 PM
http://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/500003/sitcoms-dramatic-changes-after-liked?page=1

Post by Mozenrath on May 24, 2014 at 7:35pm
I like Steve Rhodes on Married with Children. I think that Jefferson was probably the more interesting character in some regards, and he fit the tone the show later took quite well, but I like how grounded the show was at the time.

It's almost like two different shows sometimes, with how cartoony things got when Marcy was an outright antagonist to Al, rather than just a naive neighbor that got pulled into their mess, along with Kelly getting much dumber, Bud's depravity increasing, and Peggy's incompetence and apathy as a homemaker coming to a head. Even the universe seemed to shift, with Al's life falling apart in increasingly unlikely ways, showing that the very world he inhabits is conspiring against him. I don't really know if I prefer one iteration over the other, but I think that Rhodes-era Married with Children can be a bit underrated.

TMC
08-16-2021, 03:00 AM
One thing that we need to take for account is that Steve actually had more of a character arc and was better developed than Jefferson. We witnessed Steve's gradual corruption by Al, pathetic decline, and impatience with Marcy grow in the lead-up to his departure.

Jefferson meanwhile, was just a male version of Peggy. He was also just a tool of comedy, a foil for Marcy, and a sidekick for Al.

One observation that I read is that Ted McGinley for better or worse, acted like he was in on the joke whereas David Garrison played it straight for most of the time.

hatwink
09-10-2021, 12:32 PM
Liked both, but Jefferson was the type of guys to get Al in situations that Steve would never get Al into. Plus, there was an hidden side to Jefferson that was never fully explored.

Virtual
01-22-2022, 05:11 PM
I liked both, but Jefferson probably fit better with Marcy. Steve just seemed like the kind of guy who was finally done with all the nonsense in their neighborhood.

jimpickens
02-25-2022, 03:30 AM
Steve was good but Jefferson and Al had better chemistry and seemed to compliment each other.

Reinhold_Weege
02-25-2022, 07:35 PM
Jefferson was selfish and only married Marcy for her money.

Marcy deserved it. :D

Virtual
03-27-2022, 08:02 PM
Steve was good but Jefferson and Al had better chemistry and seemed to compliment each other.

That's probably the biggest reason I liked Jefferson better; he would play the role as Al's "partner in crime" in ways that Steve never would have and I think it made the show funnier.

TVSCREEN2015
08-21-2022, 04:34 PM
Jefferson, around the time he came on the show is when the it really took off and found it's footing.

Steve was boring.

principehomura
08-23-2022, 02:48 PM
I like them equally

TMC
11-12-2022, 11:59 PM
Based on many of the comments here (http://washedupcelebrities.blogspot.com/2013/05/david-garrison.html), the show never fully recovered from Steve/David Garrison's departure. Steve was maybe, the only one who brought a sense of normalcy to Married...with Children. With every other character being so over-the-top, Steve being the only rational person on the show, actually made things funnier.

At the end of the day, Steve/David Garrison was arguably, the true "heart and soul" of MWC. He was the sensible, yet sometimes quirky one who was always critical of his pal Al Bundy's motives. And going back to an earlier point, this made for great comedy.

When Ted McGinley's Jefferson showed up, he only served as a clone of Al, and the show arguably became a one-dimensional sleazefest.

TMC
03-10-2024, 11:06 PM
I think they were funny in their own way, but Jefferson was my favorite. He was just hilarious in a smart-ass way, Steve was more of the straight man with sarcastic kind of humor.

An argument that recently read (https://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/633012/additions-tv-show?page=3) is that Jefferson fit in the show much better than Steve did. Or at the very least, Jefferson fit in better with what the show would evolve into. When Married with...Children started, the original concept of the show was pretty much about an older, more cynical long-time married couple (Al and Peggy) contrasting against a younger, newlywed married couple (Steve and Marcy).

But as the show continued to become basically, a live-action cartoon about white trash, it wouldn't have made much sense for Steve still be there. With Jefferson as the show itself got more over the top, his character likewise, was over-the-top. And he added to the irony that Al and Marcy are effectively in the same position but still hate each other, while Al's best friend has all the same traits he hates in his wife.

king of comedy
03-11-2024, 08:51 AM
I voted for Jefferson. My friend met Amanda Bearse at Chiller fest in New Jersey last year and she said she liked Steve better than Jefferson.

TMC
04-28-2024, 02:16 AM
Others have recently pointed out (https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedwithchildren/comments/1c79b5x/comment/l0872ik/) that during the "Steve era", the show was more focused on the Bundys' poverty and the funny struggles out of it. But later on during the "Jefferson era", the show became more focused on sex appeal and gimmicks. Basically, the show got more surreal as it went on to put it in another way.

TMC
04-28-2024, 05:22 AM
I voted for Jefferson. My friend met Amanda Bearse at Chiller fest in New Jersey last year and she said she liked Steve better than Jefferson.

I was just reading comments (https://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/633932/shows-preferred-after-jumping-shark) from people who said that they preferred the episodes with Jefferson over Steve because the show just embraced the wackiness and trashiness (and therefore, became funnier as a result) over the more subdued earlier episodes with Steve.

When the show started, Steve and Marcy were newlyweds, so it pretty much explains why they're in the neighborhood with the Bundys. Steve and Marcy dreamed of more and were snobbish. Marcy remains there however, because Jefferson is dragging her down. And he depending on who you ask, is a much better compliment to Al as a character than Steve ever was or could've been.

Dude111
04-30-2024, 06:05 PM
George Jefferson by miles!!

DJM77
04-30-2024, 08:50 PM
George Jefferson by miles!!

Wrong show.

TMC
06-08-2024, 05:52 AM
I was just reading comments (https://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/633932/shows-preferred-after-jumping-shark) from people who said that they preferred the episodes with Jefferson over Steve because the show just embraced the wackiness and trashiness (and therefore, became funnier as a result) over the more subdued earlier episodes with Steve.

When the show started, Steve and Marcy were newlyweds, so it pretty much explains why they're in the neighborhood with the Bundys. Steve and Marcy dreamed of more and were snobbish. Marcy remains there however, because Jefferson is dragging her down. And he depending on who you ask, is a much better compliment to Al as a character than Steve ever was or could've been.

The show when Steve was there, arguably (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/1da8g38/comment/l7jagms/) had much more dry of a wit and had more intelligent, original writing. All in all, Married...with Children was much more grounded during those earlier seasons with Steve. When Jefferson was there later on, the show became more cartoonish and a parody of itself, especially at the very end.

Dude111
06-09-2024, 02:20 AM
Wrong show.OOPS sorry,Ill say Steve then!!

Ohio8
07-07-2024, 11:02 PM
An argument that recently read (https://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/633012/additions-tv-show?page=3) is that Jefferson fit in the show much better than Steve did. Or at the very least, Jefferson fit in better with what the show would evolve into. When Married with...Children started, the original concept of the show was pretty much about an older, more cynical long-time married couple (Al and Peggy) contrasting against a younger, newlywed married couple (Steve and Marcy).

But as the show continued to become basically, a live-action cartoon about white trash, it wouldn't have made much sense for Steve still be there. With Jefferson as the show itself got more over the top, his character likewise, was over-the-top. And he added to the irony that Al and Marcy are effectively in the same position but still hate each other, while Al's best friend has all the same traits he hates in his wife.


Jefferson, Steve and Marcy weren't just white trash, they were yuppie scum. Jefferson was a convicted white collar criminal.

TMC
08-05-2025, 07:10 PM
Others have recently pointed out (https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedwithchildren/comments/1c79b5x/comment/l0872ik/) that during the "Steve era", the show was more focused on the Bundys' poverty and the funny struggles out of it. But later on during the "Jefferson era", the show became more focused on sex appeal and gimmicks. Basically, the show got more surreal as it went on to put it in another way.

During its first seasons, MWC was pretty biting, smart, and acerbic below all the "lowbrow" stuff. That's why instead of Jefferson being a sidekick that went along with anything Al did, they allowed Steve to be the exact opposite of all (with maybe more similarities than he might care to admit), which led to a more sophisticated humor.

Around the time of Jefferson's arrival, the show became much more overtly trashy, with a hooting audience and constant cheap sex jokes. The show by this point, was essentially a cartoon for adults.