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[[B]At around midnight Britney was wheeled out in a gurney, following hearsays that "someone" inside the home was in a very hysterical, possibly intoxicated state. Police officer Jason Lee told the Associated Press that no injuries were reported yet Spears was believed to be under a the influence of an "unknown substance". The mother-of-two has since been placed on "medical hold" in an unknown location and is awaiting medical evaluation.

Aerial footage from KTLA-TV showed Spears being lifted in a gurney into an ambulance. It was unclear where she was being taken.

Lee said Spears was under the influence of an unknown substance, and no injuries were reported.

The incident involved a family dispute that police worked to resolve "peacefully by court order," he said.

An Associated Press photographer outside the gated community that includes Spears' house saw six police cars, an ambulance and a fire truck enter around 10:30 p.m. A dispatcher with the fire department referred calls to the police department.
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Let's just hope this is the straw and she gets the help she so desperately needs. Can't see her getting even visits with the kids after this episode.

If she was waiting for a dramatic life event to change her ways, let's pretend that this is it, shall we?

If she was waiting for a dramatic life event to change her ways, let's pretend that this is it, shall we?


Agreed. I normally don't post celebrity news, but I guess I actually just feel sorry for Britney. She got famous so young and has not been able to handle it.

Agreed. I normally don't post celebrity news, but I guess I actually just feel sorry for Britney. She got famous so young and has not been able to handle it.

I know I laughed at some of the stuff earlier in 2007, but it's just sad now. She's going to be one that has to hit rock bottom before she'll get help. It's bad enough to see a young, talented person go through this, but when children are involved it's not a laughing matter.

I hope she gets the help she needs.


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When it rains, it pours.

Los Angeles police were called to Britney Spears' gated Studio City, California, home Thursday night to resolve what authorities have deemed a "custodial dispute" involving her and Kevin Federline's two children, after which the troubled pop star was transported by ambulance to a nearby hospital.

LAPD spokesman Officer Jason Lee said that Spears was detained and "taken in for evaluation" after police arrived at her house and found her to be under the influence of an unknown substance.

Spears arrived at L.A.'s Cedars-Sinai Medical Center just before 12:30 a.m., and is on "medical hold," i.e. being detained, while docs of the physical and psychological variety check her out.

A second ambulance, reportedly containg a child, left Spears' house shortly after the first one and was headed in the same direction.

There's no immediate word on whether charges will be filed.

The cops were called at 8 p.m. and were still there at 10:30 p.m. when several other police cars, two ambulances, a firetruck, a police chopper and, of course, the press rolled up behind them.

A handful of paramedics were inside the house as of 11 p.m. and were said to be treating the 26-year-old singer, but no specific injuries have been reported.

Medics were seen rolling a gurney and other equipment into the house.

Lee couldn't say who originally called the police but did say the call was in reference to a "family custodial dispute that we are trying to peacefully resolve." He later said that the children were turned over to Federline's camp at about 10:50 p.m., just as the medical cavalry was arriving, after police reviewed a court order stipulating that it was time for the toddlers' father to be in charge.

K-Fed's attorney, Mark Vincent Kaplan, was spotted arriving at the Spears home shortly before 8 p.m. this evening, but was seen leaving before the big to-do. It's unclear whether the court documents on hand were courtesy of Kaplan.

Us Weekly reported that the clash in question occurred when Federline's bodyguards arrived at Spears' house this evening to retrieve two-year-old Sean Preston and year-old Jayden James, and Spears refused to hand over the boys.

"In a normal case, when someone shows up with a certified court order saying the kids need to be somewhere else, the police see to it that the order is obeyed. But that is in a normal case," Spears' soon-to-be former family attorney told Us. The Beverly Hills lawyer filed a motion Wednesday to have himself relieved as Spears' counsel, citing a "breakdown in communication."

The beleaguered songstress gets supervised visits with her sons three times a week under the terms of her current arrangement with Federline. She lost custody to her ex in October after defying a judge's order not to drive the boys around without a valid license and insurance.

Also per court order, Spears is supposed to log several hours a week with a parenting coach and undergo twice-weekly random drug testing, a provision her lawyers have fought, but to no avail.

Earlier Thursday, Spears was about 90 minutes late for her appointment to be deposed by Federline's legal camp. Thanks to her tardiness, Kaplan was only able to question the "Toxic" singer for 14 minutes.

What a shame.

What a shame.
Let's hope she had her panties on!!!

She pulled this stunt to take the attention off of her sister who has been stealing her limelight lately.:D

She pulled this stunt to take the attention off of her sister who has been stealing her limelight lately.:D

When the Jamie Lynn news broke wide, Britney probably took a swig from her bottle, took a hit off her cigarette and went, "Bitch! I'll show her who's the boss in this family!":crazy:

Let's hope she had her panties on!!!
We can only hope. :lol:

This must have been so scary for those little boys! I noticed the restraint in the last picture.

Britney Spears has been taken to a Los Angeles hospital for "an evaluation" after police were called to her Studio City home for a "custodial dispute" Thursday.

At around 8 p.m. police responded to a call "about a custodial dispute regarding Britney Spears's children," said LAPD officer Jason Lee.

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Britney Spears was hospitalized late Thursday night after the pop star locked herself in a room with one of her children at her L.A. home and refused to hand him over to ex-husband Kevin Federline.

Spears, who according to police appeared to be "under the influence of an unknown substance," was strapped to a gurney and rushed to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. Federline later showed up and custody of the children, Preston, 2, and Jayden, 1, was transferred to him.

A source close to Spears tells PEOPLE the pop star's court-appointed child monitor called police. "She had already put Preston in the car when Britney locked herself in a room with Jayden," says the source.

Spears, who has visitation rights with the kids, was scheduled to give the boys over to Federline at 7 p.m. Thursday. A bodyguard for Federline arrived to pick up the boys at the designated time, but Spears refused to relinquish her sons, according to a source.

According to police, officers responded around 8 p.m. to a call "about a custodial dispute regarding Britney Spears's children," says Los Angeles police Officer Jason Lee.

Nearly three hours later, police determined that a court order stated that the singer's children, who were with Spears at the time, were supposed to be with Kevin Federline, and a transfer was arranged, according to Lee.

"While officers were on the scene, they observed Ms. Spears under the influence of an unknown substance," Lee added. "She is now being taken in for an evaluation, more than likely to a hospital. There were no reported injuries to anyone involved including the children."
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In addition to multiple officers, fire trucks, two ambulance and a police helicopter were all on the scene. At one point, Spears was seen being taken to an ambulance on a gurney.

After Spears arrived at the hospital, her father, Jamie, and her ex, Federline – as well as both of her sons – were spotted there. A source confirms that the boys were not being treated for any injuries.

Spears, who has visitation rights with her two sons Preston, 2, and Jayden, 1, was scheduled to give the boys over to Federline at 7 p.m. Thursday. A bodyguard for Federline arrived to pick up the boys at the designated time, but Spears refused to relinquish her sons, according to a source.

Police – as well as Federline's lawyer Mark Vincent Kaplan – arrived at the house close to 8 p.m., though Kaplan was later seen leaving.

Earlier in the day, Spears showed up 90 minutes late to a scheduled deposition in her custody case – and stayed for only a fraction of an hour.

Back at her Studio City home directly after the hearing, when a photographer asked if Kaplan was nice to her, Spears, 26, responded with an emphatic, "No!"

When reached by PEOPLE, Spears's lawyer Sorrell Trope, who on Wednesday filed a request to withdraw from the singer's custody case, said only: "No comment."

So, what about the kids? From UsWeekly...

Sources tell Usmagazine.com that Britney Spears' sons, Sean Preston and Jayden James, were released from L.A's Cedars-Sinai Medical Center shortly after 4 a.m. PST Friday.

The boys were with Kevin Federline's bodyguard. Their car was being followed by the paparazzi at 4:15 a.m.

Sources tell Us that Federline had returned to his Tarzana home before his son earlier this morning.

Jayden and Sean Preston were taken to the hospital after mom was rushed via ambulance around 11 p.m. Thursday. Federline showed up at 12:40 a.m.

As of 3:45 a.m PST Friday, Spears remained in the hospital under observation. See her being wheeled on a stretcher here.

A hospital source tells Usmagazine.com that Spears has been designated a "special needs" patient, meaning "they have either overdosed or tried to commit suicide. So we go stay with these patients and monitor them constantly. We watch them so they don't hurt themselves and watch the people who come visit them to make sure they don't pass anything to them."

An insider at L.A.’s Cedars-Sinai Medical Center tells Usmagazine.com that nobody wanted to be Britney Spears’ monitor last night. (ouch)

MORE DETAILS from UsWeekly...

Britney Spears went “completely psycho” as she was rushed to L.A.’s Cedars-Sinai Thursday, a source tells Usmagazine.com.

“They had to strap her down like a mental patient and she was going between laughing and hysterics,” the source adds, calling it “a total psychotic breakdown. She just went crazy."
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Another Spears pal tells Us: "I guess she has good days and bad days - it's mental instability. All she has is to think of something sad and she goes crazy.”

Agreed. I normally don't post celebrity news, but I guess I actually just feel sorry for Britney. She got famous so young and has not been able to handle it.

its wierd I looked up to her when I was younger and now its just like omg what have you gotten yourself into and I do feel sorry for her as well.

I heard about this on www.insideronline.com and then on MSNBC

Living so close to Los Angeles/Studio City, this breaking news was on every single news channel last night. That's the kind of breaking news we see around here, celebrity trouble.

I seriously thought at first that maybe Britney had a car accident near her home. While watching this whole thing play out LIVE and seeing her being wheeled out on that gurney, it was just sad.

God be with her and I hope this will be the bottom for her and she finally gets help.

K-Fed and his attorneys had an Ex-Parte hearing this morning (emergency hearing)...they haven't either come out of court yet or they haven't revealed what was said at the hearing...stay tuned.

Its about time for Britney to wake up and smell the coffee and figure out how to get her life back on track, if not for herself for her kids

Ok, the court hearing will resume at 1 p.m. and K-fed is seeking FULL CUSTODY.

What was the first station to Break into Programming on The Britney Spears News

Ok, the court hearing will resume at 1 p.m. and K-fed is seeking FULL CUSTODY.

he's probably got a chance to get it

he's probably got a chance to get it
Without a doubt. Lately Britney's antics and her not going to depositions, arriving late to depositions, not following certain court orders, etc. weighs heavily in favor of the other parent to get what they seek, whatever is reasonable and as far as what I have seen happen in hundreds of family court cases, this will be the thing to cause Britney to lose her kids. She may be granted some visitation but she will have supervised visitation by someone the court will deem proper.

do they have to be back in Court at 1:00 pm Pacifit Time

Yes, 1 p.m. P.S.T.

so that will 3:00 pm Central Time

This really makes me sad. I've never really been a fan but what has to happen before someone gets her some help? Her antics have been laughable before but now it's getting serious. Someone needs to help her before she commits suicide. :(

Without a doubt. Lately Britney's antics and her not going to depositions, arriving late to depositions, not following certain court orders, etc. weighs heavily in favor of the other parent to get what they seek, whatever is reasonable and as far as what I have seen happen in hundreds of family court cases, this will be the thing to cause Britney to lose her kids. She may be granted some visitation but she will have supervised visitation by someone the court will deem proper.


excpected, but I still kinda feel bad for her

I know that the Entertainment Show's are going to have a Feild day with this

I'm going to Wal Mart sunday for groceries I'm sure all of the US Weekly and all the other crap will have Britney on the cover

I know all thepapers will be talking about this news

excpected, but I still kinda feel bad for her
Most definitely. This is just horrible. Where are her family and friends? And I don't mean that middle eastern body guard guy either.

I don't believe that supposed source at Cedars-Sinai hospital that is mentioned on the previous page. Cedars deals with many celebrity patients and they are very good at keeping things private. I highly doubt no one at Cedars didn't want to monitor Britney.

Her mom is probably still mad at her for what she did last year and is preoccupied with Jamie Lynn but if she's mad about last year she needs to grow up get over it and help her daughter

Her mom is probably still mad at her for what she did last year and is preoccupied with Jamie Lynn but if she's mad about last year she needs to grow up get over it and help her daughter
I am sure with the mother it was abt Britney wanting to be left alone, not wanting to listen to reason (from her mother) and probably telling her mom, "I am an adult." Which is true, Britney is an adult and her mom can only do so much. I just hope now that her mother will do what she must do to help her daughter. If Britney is indeed using illegal drugs, I am sure it must have been like talking to a wall. There is no reason, no common sense and no idea what it is she is doing. I can imagine her mother just felt so hopeless.

and here I was hoping we'd hear less about Britney in 08...well thats not happening. 4 days into 08

I feel bad for her but I feel worse for the kids that probably have no idea what is going on.

I feel bad for her but I feel worse for the kids that probably have no idea what is going on.


Yeah, those poor boys

Not to sound mean, but she deserves to lose custody of those kids. She's had chance after chance and blown it every time. Is it THAT hard to show up on time to your custody hearings or drug tests?? She's an unfit parent and those kids need a safe and stable environment to grow up in. Britney had better start taking care of herself first before she becomes another Anna Nicole.

Not to sound mean, but she deserves to lose custody of those kids. She's had chance after chance and blown it every time. Is it THAT hard to show up on time to your custody hearings or drug tests?? She's an unfit parent and those kids need a safe and stable environment to grow up in. Britney had better start taking care of herself first before she becomes another Anna Nicole.


Totally agree

Not to sound mean, but she deserves to lose custody of those kids. She's had chance after chance and blown it every time. Is it THAT hard to show up on time to your custody hearings or drug tests?? She's an unfit parent and those kids need a safe and stable environment to grow up in. Britney had better start taking care of herself first before she becomes another Anna Nicole.

I agree. And getting custody of her children should not be her priority. Getting healthy, mentally & emotionally should be her priority. Once she figures out that, then they can talk custody.

I don't necessarily buy the "she got famous so young" argument. Beyonce and Justin Timberlake are exactly the same age as Britney, and both became famous as teenagers as well, and you don't see either of them making TMZ every single day because of something insane they've done. Britney may be doing everything wrong, but Justin is her male equal (they started out on MMC together as kids and dated for a long time) and yet he seems to be able to do no wrong.

I think Britney just didn't have what it took to grow out of the teen idol phase, whereas Justin and Beyonce had the talent and hindsight to get out of the pigeonhold they were in and become respected music artists, especially Justin since he had his start in a boyband.

Not to sound mean, but she deserves to lose custody of those kids. She's had chance after chance and blown it every time. Is it THAT hard to show up on time to your custody hearings or drug tests?? She's an unfit parent and those kids need a safe and stable environment to grow up in. Britney had better start taking care of herself first before she becomes another Anna Nicole.
I agree. It's sad that a lot of Britney fans still want her getting her kids. It's obvious they are looking at her with rose-colored glasses and still think Federline is as hated now as he was before people realized he's the more sane one of the two and the better parent.

I agree. It's sad that a lot of Britney fans still want her getting her kids. It's obvious they are looking at her with rose-colored glasses and still think Federline is as hated now as he was before people realized he's the more sane one of the two and the better parent.

Back when this whole thing started I wanted Britney to get custody but now with everything she's been through and is going through it would be in the boys best intrest if K-Fed gets custody, at least until Britney gets things staightened out. Then maybe her having visitation rights or something.

I don't necessarily buy the "she got famous so young" argument. Beyonce and Justin Timberlake are exactly the same age as Britney, and both became famous as teenagers as well, and you don't see either of them making TMZ every single day because of something insane they've done. Britney may be doing everything wrong, but Justin is her male equal (they started out on MMC together as kids and dated for a long time) and yet he seems to be able to do no wrong.

I think Britney just didn't have what it took to grow out of the teen idol phase, whereas Justin and Beyonce had the talent and hindsight to get out of the pigeonhold they were in and become respected music artists, especially Justin since he had his start in a boyband.

She needs to take responsibility for her own life, her own mistakes. Not let others make excuses for her like "She was too young" because you're right.

She needs to take responsibility for her own life, her own mistakes. Not let others make excuses for her like "She was too young" because you're right.
My point exactly!!

She needs to take responsibility for her own life, her own mistakes. Not let others make excuses for her like "She was too young" because you're right.

:yeahthat

I don't necessarily buy the "she got famous so young" argument. Beyonce and Justin Timberlake are exactly the same age as Britney, and both became famous as teenagers as well, and you don't see either of them making TMZ every single day because of something insane they've done. Britney may be doing everything wrong, but Justin is her male equal (they started out on MMC together as kids and dated for a long time) and yet he seems to be able to do no wrong.

I think Britney just didn't have what it took to grow out of the teen idol phase, whereas Justin and Beyonce had the talent and hindsight to get out of the pigeonhold they were in and become respected music artists, especially Justin since he had his start in a boyband.
I don't know who is using that excuse, it sounds like someone's attempts at defending her. Also, this has nothing to do with her talent, her ability to get out of the teen phase, teen idol pop star thingy, etc. The girl touched drugs and it has become her downfall. She may have tried to feel it was the pressure of everything going on around her and she felt the need to "escape" or just to relax.

I stated to my boyfriend earlier today, "Drugs don't care if you are famous or not." Once you touch drugs and use them when there is no medical reason to do so, you are going to become addicted. Look at Anna Nicole. Same thing. There has never been one person who has abused drugs and come out "OKAY." You are affected in many ways. Some worse than others, but still, you are never going to be the same.

I don't know who is using that excuse, it sounds like someone's attempts at defending her. Also, this has nothing to do with her talent, her ability to get out of the teen phase, teen idol pop star thingy, etc. The girl touched drugs and it has become her downfall. She may have tried to feel it was the pressure of everything going on around her and she felt the need to "escape" or just to relax.

I stated to my boyfriend earlier today, "Drugs don't care if you are famous or not." Once you touch drugs and use them when there is no medical reason to do so, you are going to become addicted. Look at Anna Nicole. Same thing. There has never been one person who has abused drugs and come out "OKAY." You are affected in many ways. Some worse than others, but still, you are never going to be the same.
You're right - look at people like Andy Gibb. He got hooked on drugs and alcohol very young, and despite several stints at rehab, it wasn't enough to save his life. Britney's playing with fire here.

You're right - look at people like Andy Gibb. He got hooked on drugs and alcohol very young, and despite several stints at rehab, it wasn't enough to save his life. Britney's playing with fire here.
Another great example. A celeb could have everything going right for them and still touch drugs and the downfall begins.

UNTIL A PERSON ON DRUGS ADMITS THE PROBLEM, THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE. You cannot change what you don't acknowledge.

There have been tons of stars die from overdose and if she doesnt watch it Britney may be next

There have been tons of stars die from overdose and if she doesnt watch it Britney may be next
I wonder if the media wants this to happen tho. Sad but true, it seems like ever since Anna Nicole's death, the media has been trying to make Britney the new Anna Nicole

I wonder if the media wants this to happen tho. Sad but true, it seems like ever since Anna Nicole's death, the media has been trying to make Britney the new Anna Nicole
The media doesn't give a rat's ass abt Britney other than reporting abt her behavior, good, bad or indifferent. As long as they get their pics and other stories, whether they are true or not. :rolleyes:

all the media cares about is getting the shot and getting the money

yea, but as we've seen from Diana and Anna Nicole, the media/paparazzi are willing to push someone to the point of death if it means selling newspapers and getting good money for the pictures. It's really disgusting. I figured when the Paparazzi killed Diana, that they were going to loosen up a bit and let celebrities breathe a little better, but instead they're more vicious and ruthless today than they ever were in the 90's.

I wonder when they die, their punishment is being stalked by photographers for the rest of eternity :rofl:

This is so very sad. I pray that she overcomes her problems, for her sake and the sake of her children. Those pictures are heartbreaking and difficult to look at, for me. The fear in her eyes. It's not a joke anymore. Her life is at stake here. It's said that most people have to hit rock bottom before they change. Perhaps this is a blessing in disquise.

poor Britney :( i really hope she can recover soon. every incident she has seems like rock bottom then something else happens that's even worse.

she needs MAJOR help. fast. she's too close to becoming the next Anna Nicole Smith.

i blame the media and papparatzi for her state, honestly. i think they've driven her to mental insantity.

the only people involved I truly feel bad for are the two kids. They're 1 and 2 years old, an age where having your mother around is very crucial. I hope despite the media glare and having their mother go through all the mental unstableness, that they will grow up just fine. The two sons are both at a very crucial age where they are very vulnerable and events that happen to them at this point in time will shape them as they get older.

^ Well said. My nephew is 1 1/2, and he's at the stage now where he can't bear to be away from his mommy. That is a very rough stage (both for the kid and the parents)!!

My boyfriend has a niece who lost her 3 year old son because of drug use. She is currently due to give birth at any time. :rolleyes: She has a drug problem and yet, hitting rock bottom didn't deter or open her eyes to what is going on. She was homeless for abt 6 months. She has missed 9 drug testing appointments and just last week the judge told her if she missed one more that was it, she would lose custody of the baby she is now carrying. I am disgusted that after missing 9 drug testing appointments the judge still gave her ONE MORE CHANCE. For what???? To prove she is an unfit parent? Her brother has custody of her son and is wanting to adopt him.

Kids really are the victims here and they see and hear what is going on around them. Don't think they are ever too young to know what is happening. They absorb all the things that go on around them.

i blame the media and papparatzi for her state, honestly. i think they've driven her to mental insantity.
The blame really belongs to the drugs which always seem to follow when a person who's much too young to handle it, is thrown into the spotlight and handed immoral amounts of money, while getting virtually no life training from their parents.

Drugs can't do anything until someone ingests them willingly. Now, if someone got Britney hooked by forcing her to take them that is a different story.

Not to sound mean, but she deserves to lose custody of those kids. She's had chance after chance and blown it every time. Is it THAT hard to show up on time to your custody hearings or drug tests?? She's an unfit parent and those kids need a safe and stable environment to grow up in. Britney had better start taking care of herself first before she becomes another Anna Nicole.

I agree. She is an unfit parent.

I have taken my shots at every train wreck celebrity in 2007, but I've given that up for 2008, so this will be may last shot at Brit.

She's going to end up dead if someone doesn't step in and get her into rehab.

She is obviously messed up, either emotionally or chemically.

Either way, her family needs to throw a net over her and get her life back on track, or she will be dead, and every pundit on TV will be wondering "why oh why did this happen?"

The blame really belongs to the drugs which always seem to follow when a person who's much too young to handle it, is thrown into the spotlight and handed immoral amounts of money, while getting virtually no life training from their parents.
yeah that too, she was put into the spotlight too young. but maybe if the media wasn't so overly-obsessed with her she wouldn't have done the drugs or half of the stunts she's done.

and i really feel sorry for her kids, too. i wouldn't want them to end up to be on the same path as her, but they've had virtually no parenting and have been thrown around from parent to parent and are spotlighted in the media already.

Drug or alcohol addiction is a disease, and is recognized as such by the American Medical Association. It's not a character flaw, a weakness and has nothing to do with a person's moral system. Money or fame has nothing to do with it. A person afflicted with this disease has no more control over it, than a person with diabetes. As with all diseases, Britney needs help. Some make it, many don't. I was happy when Robert Downey Jr. and Charlie Sheen overcame their afflictions. She has a rough road ahead of her. I'm really pulling for her. It's very sad.

Drug or alcohol addiction is a disease, and is recognized as such by the American Medical Association. It's not a character flaw, a weakness and has nothing to do with a person's moral system. Money or fame has nothing to do with it. A person afflicted with this disease has no more control over it, than a person with diabetes. As with all diseases, Britney needs help. Some make it, many don't. I was happy when Robert Downey Jr. and Charlie Sheen overcame their afflictions. She has a rough road ahead of her. I'm really pulling for her. It's very sad.
It is a shame that many want to find a reason for Britney's downfall. Her lackluster career, her bad marriage, etc. Those are merely the symptoms of what is really going on. Like I said, drugs/alcohold don't care if you are a superstar or a homeless man on the street, once you have the disease you need help. It takes intervention in most instances for people to understand they are sick. But most importantly the person has to WANT TO GET BETTER.

I just heard Kevin was awarded full custody. I can see Britney's loons coming out of the woodwork all mad because a lot of her fans (not so much here, but I see them on other boards) believe all is fine with their favorite girl and still hate Federline with a passion

ohno: Drugs are not something you ever want to get involved with. It's a terrible thing to have to deal with drug addiction, it will ruin your life. I can't tell you how many people I went to school with who are now in rehab. Some of them lost their homes and families over it and their lives will never be the same. If the addiction doesn't kill you physically, it WILL kill you emotionally.

I just got done watchin Entertainment Tongiht and they one of the guys was saying that its not Britneys fault that it is her friends and familys fault for not getting her help and I personally believe that thats basically a load of bull

Drug or alcohol addiction is a disease, and is recognized as such by the American Medical Association. It's not a character flaw, a weakness and has nothing to do with a person's moral system. Money or fame has nothing to do with it. A person afflicted with this disease has no more control over it, than a person with diabetes. As with all diseases, Britney needs help. Some make it, many don't. I was happy when Robert Downey Jr. and Charlie Sheen overcame their afflictions. She has a rough road ahead of her. I'm really pulling for her. It's very sad.
I agree with you that it's a disease. However, it's a disease that the person afflicted with has to WANT to get better from. I know how these boys are going to go thru if she doesn't want to get better.

My mother has been an alcoholic ever since I can remember. My life growing up was hell. Thank goodness my parents divorced when I was 8. I lived a happy life with my dad.

However, I visited my mom every summer. I hated every minute of it. Then when I was 15 I decided to live with my mom. Terrible mistake. My mom lost her job, because of her drinking. Was in rehab on Christmas day. Promised me and my sister that she was going to stick to the AA program and as soon as she was out of the rehab center she went and bought a bottle of vodka. I found it and poured it down the drain. Which earned me a push thru a sliding glass door. Being woken up for imagined discressions that my mom felt I needed to be punished for. Being made to wash clothes or dishes at 2 a.m. when I had to get up on a school night. How I managed to keep straight A's in school, I have no idea. At one point the only time I was allowed out of my room during the summer was to go to the bathroom, or to eat. I wasn't allowed to watch tv or listen to the radio. If the rest of the family went out for dinner, I was left at home with a bologna sandwich and 1 glass of water. I loved going to church and she even denied me that. Anything that I enjoyed was taken away from me. Thankfully she let me keep my books. That was the one saving grace I had. I knew that she hated me. She had ever since I chose to live with my dad. Finally on my 16th birthday I tried to commit suicide. I hated myself and felt that I was worthless. So, I took a bottle of sleeping pills and my mom found me. I hated her for a long time after that.

Shortly after that, I couldn't take it anymore. Just when I thought I was at my breaking point again, God sent an angel to me. I was allowed to go to church and the sermon seemed to speak to me. I cried for two hours. The poor people at my church had no idea what was wrong with me. I knew at that point that God was watching over me and had a special plan for my life.

My dad called and I told him what was going on. I had been afraid to tell him anything before this. When I did, he told me he was coming to get me. Shortly before Christmas, he came and took me home.

It has been almost 21 years since that day. I thank God that he brought me thru that dark time in my life. I have a wonderful husband and a smart, funny and at times silly son.

I haven't talked to my mom in nearly 10 years. I've forgiven her, but I hate her more that anyone in my life. My dad passed away almost 11 years ago. As far as I'm concerned I'm an orphan.

Brittany better tread carefully or her sons will feel the same way. Get help Brittany. Be a mom to your kids.

Sorry for the long reply. I just started writing and couldn't stop...

Wow...I'm speechless

I just heard Kevin was awarded full custody. I can see Britney's loons coming out of the woodwork all mad because a lot of her fans (not so much here, but I see them on other boards) believe all is fine with their favorite girl and still hate Federline with a passion
And to think, those kids were with their mother in a car while she was driving around probably high on something. :eek: Thank God nothing ever happened.

Those kids will be safe and sound and this will give Brit time to "chill" and hopefully make a rational decision to admit her problem and begin those changes. Her last rehab stint was a joke. She needs to get real this time.

TMZ is running a poll right now regarding the whole Britney custody story.

Q: Are the kids better off without her?

80% of the people polled said "Yes" and 20% said no.

So there are people out there who still think the boys are just fine with Mom!

Oy vey.

;)

TMZ is running a poll right now regarding the whole Britney custody story.

Q: Are the kids better off without her?

80% of the people polled said "Yes" and 20% said no.

So there are people out there who still think the boys are just fine with Mom!

Oy vey.

;)


....I dont even think i wanna get started on that

TMZ is running a poll right now regarding the whole Britney custody story.

Q: Are the kids better off without her?

80% of the people polled said "Yes" and 20% said no.

So there are people out there who still think the boys are just fine with Mom!

Oy vey.

;)
Britney has fans who still see her the way she was in 2000 and think she can do no wrong. I seriously saw a poster on another message board comparing her "Gimme More" VMA performance to Michael Jackson moonwalking on Motown 25 and The Beatles on Ed Sullivan. Britney could hold a family of albinos at gunpoint at the loons will still think it's amazing

I seriously saw a poster on another message board comparing her "Gimme More" VMA performance to Michael Jackson moonwalking on Motown 25 and The Beatles on Ed Sullivan.

:eek:

And I thought I was dillusional!

;)

I think the media should do to Britney what they did to Paris awhile back when it was pretty collectively agreed that everyone was sick of reporting about her every single day, and all the gossip sites (TMZ, Perez, Trent, etc...) all agreed to do a week where they didn't report on Paris no matter what she did. I think it's time the same treatment is given to Britney, do we need to read about her every single day. I think all but the biggest Britney loons would be fine with going the rest of the decade with nothing said about her period. Even if she publically is spotted making love to midgets, ignore it and don't give her the acknoledgement.

The media hype over this girl will only intensify with this meltdown of hers.

The next court hearing on the custody of the kids is scheduled for January 14.

Watching TMZ earlier just to see what those guys would say was just sick. Harvey Levin was so damn happy abt "being the first" to get the Britney story as it broke. :rolleyes: I remember Levin from his early days as a lawyer/legal analyst on our local news KCBS channel 2 to being this gossip whore. Boggles my mind. I guess he went where the money is.

It's easy to avoid TMZ, etc. I find that the people who find the tabloid stuff so stupid are those who have their noses in it constantly. It's easy to avoid it all. Don't watch the tabloid shows, and don't click on the links.

I agree with you that it's a disease. However, it's a disease that the person afflicted with has to WANT to get better from. I know how these boys are going to go thru if she doesn't want to get better.
Your story is very sad. :( It's awful, and I'm sorry that you had to go through all that, at such a young age. Living with your father was a wise move. I'm so glad that you had a happy ending. You're right, a person has to want to change. Otherwise, they never will. Alcoholism affects more than the person afflicted, as you know. I've seen the destruction myself, the human toll of broken lives. It destroyed my family, as well. It destroys families, children, marriages, finances, jobs, everything. I never lose sight of the person who has the disease though, as they are in their own private hell.

So sad. I really really really really hope Britney gets help. She needs it more than ever. :crying:

Britney has fans who still see her the way she was in 2000 and think she can do no wrong. I seriously saw a poster on another message board comparing her "Gimme More" VMA performance to Michael Jackson moonwalking on Motown 25 and The Beatles on Ed Sullivan. Britney could hold a family of albinos at gunpoint at the loons will still think it's amazing
Say WHAT??!!

Janice I was just thinking The Same thing.

this Just In Britney Spears has checked out of The Hospital According To TMZ

It's easy to avoid TMZ, etc. I find that the people who find the tabloid stuff so stupid are those who have their noses in it constantly. It's easy to avoid it all. Don't watch the tabloid shows, and don't click on the links.
I don't watch TMZ, I just merely pointed out for this matter I tuned in to see what they would say on this issue because they are usually the first ones to be around when something huge happens. Or even when something insignificant happens. I maintain that those shows and rags that make their living off of invading the privacy of people for $$$ are just doing it because there are people who live their lives digging into the lives of celebs.

Like the Don Henley song goes, "Don't you know that crap is King? Give us dirty laundry."

I just have a question is the 72 hours up

72 hours is 3 days - so no! I just read about this on People.com - she left via an underground tunnel...accompanied by Dr. Phil!!!!

I just went to www.insideronline.com and she Left with Dr. Phil.

Dr. Phil is on the job! There might be hope yet. :D
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Actually, I'm glad she left with him. (This sounds almost so Hollywood setup it isn't funny) But seriously, I think if anyone can get her the help right now, it's him. Maybe she even asked for him. Hopefully they got her to the point where she was ready to go willingly (she HAS to) and he's personally escorting her to the facility. I forget which one he uses, but you can be sure its one of the best. Go Dr. Phil!!

Actually, I'm glad she left with him. (This sounds almost so Hollywood setup it isn't funny) But seriously, I think if anyone can get her the help right now, it's him. Maybe she even asked for him. Hopefully they got her to the point where she was ready to go willingly (she HAS to) and he's personally escorting her to the facility. I forget which one he uses, but you can be sure its one of the best. Go Dr. Phil!!
I agree. If anyone can help her, it's Dr. Phil. :thumbsup:

She can't leave willingly if she was under a 72 hour hold, so I think if one is able to be signed out by a professional doctor/psychiatrist, then that is the exception.

I agree. If anyone can help her, it's Dr. Phil. :thumbsup:

She can't leave willingly if she was under a 72 hour hold, so I think if one is able to be signed out by a professional doctor/psychiatrist, then that is the exception.


Oh I know - sorry - I meant where Phil probably spoke with her one on one for quite a while and she calmed down and said she was ready to get help. For sure she would only be released under a Dr.'s supervision - and I'm sure she'll be under the same supervision for the remainder of the 72 hours once she gets to rehab. Wouldn't be surprised at all if she's under a suicide watch along with. (I'm sure TMZ and the other tabloids will have the dirty details for us shortly....)

I bet she doesn't want to work with Dr. Phil. They simply gave her an ultimatum... work with Dr. Phil or stay the full 72 hours.

I have always brushed Dr. Phil off as a joke. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong with Britney. She definitely needs help.

Dr. Phil had a show abt Britney (a 30 min. segment actually) and he talked abt what she needed to do, admit her problems, etc. How people get into trouble by trying drugs, etc.

I am sure with Dr. Phil reaching out, Britney probably accepted his help. You can't be forced to get psychiatric help. This is not a joke. Cedars-Sinai would not give ultimatums like that.

The man knows what he is doing. To be scoffed as a joke means you don't know the man or his professionalism as far as being a doctor. He didn't get where he is at by any shortcuts. He means business. I have always noticed the people who put down Dr. Phil or call him a joke are the very ones who have issues and/or don't like being told what is wrong with them. I have a half-brother and the last time I was in his presence (3 years ago) as I was watching Dr. Phil he made some crass remarks abt Dr. Phil and I just rolled my eyes :rolleyes: since my half-brother is not one to talk abt who is a joke.

I have always brushed Dr. Phil off as a joke. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong with Britney. She definitely needs help.


Why do you feel that way about Dr. Phil? I know he's "larger than life" with the Texan jargon, and all, but I've known shrinks, but personally and professionally and this guy does know his stuff. I find him very sincere.

I know there's times where it seems strange with the "perfect marriage, kids, home, money" etc., but that's only been built up in the last decade or so because he was so good and successful at what he does. He's worked a whole range of psyciatry (sp? I'm tired) and knows how to read people well.

Besides, no doubt in the longrun, she'll have a different therapist or group of them - he's just acting as crisis liason.

Britney Spears is a multimillionaire. Why would she settle for a TV psychologist? He's obviously going to exploit her for publicity.

As Americans, we're so fixated on TV personalities. We assume because a doctor has TV show that he might be the best in the field. We don't realize that having a TV show (as a so-called professional) is actually an act of desperation.

Britney Spears is a multimillionaire. Why would she settle for a TV psychologist? He's obviously going to exploit her for publicity.

As Americans, we're so fixated on TV personalities. We assume because a doctor has TV show that he might be the best in the field. We don't realize that having a TV show (as a so-called professional) is actually an act of desperation.


He might not - actually, I'd be willing to lay a bet that he's not going to exploit this at all. I really think she asked for him - and it would follow your theory. Let's face it, with all due respect, I don't think Britney's all that brilliant - maybe average intelligence at best, but she's only got a junior high education. They may have been trying to get her to see a shrink and she's the one who thought of Dr. Phil. Also, with his television exposure, you feel like you already sort of know the guy and have a rapport with them. That's very important that the patient WANT to work with the therapist.

And I hardly think Dr. Phil needed the show "in desperation"!!! You obviously don't know his creditials well before ever appearing on Oprah. That's why she had him on the show in the first place - he was an expert and extremely successful. He also was a mediator for court cases. This guy's no dummy or fake. So he wanted to try something different and grow in his career - what's wrong with that. He did that all along in his career - changed specialities, etc.. That's actually a sign of a pretty brilliant person imo.

I am curious if Phil is doing this to be a good person or because he knows an episode about Britney will get good ratings

the only people involved I truly feel bad for are the two kids. They're 1 and 2 years old, an age where having your mother around is very crucial. I hope despite the media glare and having their mother go through all the mental unstableness, that they will grow up just fine. The two sons are both at a very crucial age where they are very vulnerable and events that happen to them at this point in time will shape them as they get older.
No kidding. Those poor kids are at the age of vulnerability to a number of behavior disorders, like RAD (Reactive Attachment Disorder) or the like. They may become a handful when they grow up, at no fault of their own.

I don't watch TMZ, I just merely pointed out for this matter I tuned in to see what they would say on this issue because they are usually the first ones to be around when something huge happens. Or even when something insignificant happens. I maintain that those shows and rags that make their living off of invading the privacy of people for $$$ are just doing it because there are people who live their lives digging into the lives of celebs.
My comment was directed at people who constantly bitch that they're sick of hearing about celebrities, yet spend their time on the gossip sites, and reading the gossip rags. Then here, if you click on "Replies", they're the ones posting the most on the celebrity threads. Nobody has a gun to anyone's head. My husband doesn't give a rat's ass about this stuff, and only knows what I tell him. He changes the channel and doesn't click on the links. It's not hard to do. There's no shame in being a gossip monger, but it cracks me up how people act like they're so above it all, yet seek it out.

My comment was directed at people who constantly bitch that they're sick of hearing about celebrities, yet spend their time on the gossip sites, and reading the gossip rags. Then here, if you click on "Replies", they're the ones posting the most on the celebrity threads. Nobody has a gun to anyone's head. My husband doesn't give a rat's ass about this stuff, and only knows what I tell him. He changes the channel and doesn't click on the links. It's not hard to do. There's no shame in being a gossip monger, but it cracks me up how people act like they're so above it all, yet seek it out.

well, you can be interested in celebrity gossip and be sick to death about hearing about Britney Britney Britney every single day. I go to the sites when I'm bored because there are a lot of celebrities I am interested in reading about... Britney happens to not be one of them. Britney has been overkilled in the media in the past year or so and I think most of us could go a decade without even hearing the name again, but yet we might still enjoy seeing about what x-celebrity or y-celebrity is doing on Perez Hilton or TMZ. Some celebrities, like Britney especially, are sometimes over-reported on. If Britney has a window open and you can see her walking by it, it's front page news on TMZ.

well, you can be interested in celebrity gossip and be sick to death about hearing about Britney Britney Britney every single day. I go to the sites when I'm bored because there are a lot of celebrities I am interested in reading about... Britney happens to not be one of them. Britney has been overkilled in the media in the past year or so and I think most of us could go a decade without even hearing the name again, but yet we might still enjoy seeing about what x-celebrity or y-celebrity is doing on Perez Hilton or TMZ. Some celebrities, like Britney especially, are sometimes over-reported on. If Britney has a window open and you can see her walking by it, it's front page news on TMZ.
When I go to TMZ or wherever, I just ignore the stories I'm not interested in. You're not interested in Britney? Why are you posting left and right in this Britney thread then, and all Britney threads, for that matter? I don't post in threads that I don't have any interest in.

My comment was directed at people who constantly bitch that they're sick of hearing about celebrities, yet spend their time on the gossip sites, and reading the gossip rags. Then here, if you click on "Replies", they're the ones posting the most on the celebrity threads. Nobody has a gun to anyone's head. My husband doesn't give a rat's ass about this stuff, and only knows what I tell him. He changes the channel and doesn't click on the links. It's not hard to do. There's no shame in being a gossip monger, but it cracks me up how people act like they're so above it all, yet seek it out.
Oh God, I wish Raymond were like Lou in that respect. When he has his day off from work, he will idle on those damn channels that talk abt celebs and the gossip shows. :puke: I always tell him, "I don't want to see that. Can we change the t.v. channel please?" :crazy: He also will watch those stupid VH1 Hottest Celebrity _________(countdowns) or whatever stupid one they have airing on that particular day. God, those shows are so friggin' annoying. I don't want to see who laid out $25,000 for a watch or who went to the Bahamas for the weekend. :rolleyes:

I love to read "normal" things abt celebrities, like the People magazine or Redbook, the ones that usually have interesting interviews of celebs. Not gossip or rumors.

As for Britney, whoever she turns to for help, if it works, then more power to her. I only wish someone like Dr. Phil reached out to Anna Nicole. He may have, I don't know. I just wish she was still alive.

Britney needs the best help she can get. She paid what? $50 grand for that supposed rehab she went to and it did nothing for her. If she is working with Dr. Phil, I know she will come out of this downward spiral.

Report: Spears Released From Hospital


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LOS ANGELES (AP) - Television's "Dr. Phil" McGraw said Britney Spears was released from a hospital Saturday but still needs psychological help, the syndicated programs "Entertainment Tonight" and "The Insider" reported in a press release.

The troubled pop star was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center by paramedics Thursday night after police were called to her home because of a dispute involving the two sons she had with ex-husband Kevin Federline.

"My meeting with Britney and some family members this morning in her room at Cedars leaves me convinced more than ever that she is in dire need of both medical and psychological intervention," McGraw told the programs.

"She was released moments before my arrival and was packing when I entered the room. We visited for about an hour before I walked with her to her car. I am very concerned for her," he said.

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Responding to an e-mail request for further comment from McGraw, a "Dr. Phil" publicist referred The Associated Press to his statement posted on the etonline.com Web site.

Medical center officials have had no comment on Spears, and authorities have given no full explanation of why she was hospitalized.

The incident at Spears' home lasted several hours. A Los Angeles police spokeswoman said Friday that officers at the scene determined that paramedics "needed to be called" but it was unclear why.

A message seeking comment from Spears' attorneys at the law firm Trope and Trope was not immediately returned Saturday.

At an emergency hearing Friday, a court commissioner suspended Spears' right to visit sons Sean Preston, 2, and Jayden James, 1. The commissioner also gave sole physical and legal custody to Federline. Previously, Federline had temporary custody and Spears had court-monitored visitation.

The court set another hearing for Jan. 14. Spears and Federline married in October 2004. Her life has spiraled downward since their divorce in July. She has been photographed without underwear and appeared to be drunk and out-of-control in public. She shaved her head, beat a car with an umbrella and spent a month in rehab.

Oh God, I wish Raymond were like Lou in that respect.
Irene, Lou doesn't know Bart Simpson from Jessica Simpson, lol. He just doesn't get involved. We did watch Paris Hilton on Larry King, and when I told him about the flood of hate against her, he just shook his head, and said simply that jealous and judgemental people act that way. He's got two daughters, a mother, four sisters, and I'm wife #3. That's a lot of ladies in his life. He's old school. He thinks gentlemen don't rag on women for sport, especially the ones in trouble. How many of us could pass muster with the press on our cases 24/7.

I'm pulling for Britney in a big way too. She has such a sad, haunted look in her eyes. I think some people forget that these are human beings we're talking about. They may have egos that match their bank accounts, and nobody's saying they're perfect, but they're not sub-human either.

My comment was directed at people who constantly bitch that they're sick of hearing about celebrities, yet spend their time on the gossip sites, and reading the gossip rags. Then here, if you click on "Replies", they're the ones posting the most on the celebrity threads. Nobody has a gun to anyone's head. My husband doesn't give a rat's ass about this stuff, and only knows what I tell him. He changes the channel and doesn't click on the links. It's not hard to do. There's no shame in being a gossip monger, but it cracks me up how people act like they're so above it all, yet seek it out.
That's very true. lol I know I wouldn't even know about half of the celebrity problems if it wasn't for SO. I don't watch tabloid news. It doesn't interest me. I guess SO is becoming a tabloid site. lol

Irene, Lou doesn't know Bart Simpson from Jessica Simpson, lol. He just doesn't get involved. We did watch Paris Hilton on Larry King, and when I told him about the flood of hate, he just shook his head, and said simply that jealous and judgemental people act that way. He's got two daughters, a mother, four sisters, and I'm wife #3. That's a lot of ladies in his life. He's old school. He thinks gentlemen don't rag on woman for sport, especially the ones in trouble. How many of us could pass muster with the press on our cases 24/7.

I'm pulling for Britney in a big way too. She has such a sad, haunted look in her eyes. I think some people forget that these are human beings we're talking about. They may have egos that match their bank accounts, and nobody's saying they're perfect, but they're not sub-human either.
:rofl: That Simpson remark...:rofl: Oh my goodness. *wiping the tears from my eyes from laughing so hard*

Yeah, I read things here on the board and of course the regular news will also dish on the celebs too so while I am trying to hear abt "real news" I am being inundated with gossip, rumors and trash talk abt celebs. It is rather hard at times to try and read regular things on celebs without having to see the other stuff. The good and the bad.

I am supporting Britney too. I made my jokes abt her just like Paris and many others, but this is serious. She has two kids and she is falling apart. I cannot see the humor when anyone of us can probably relate in some way or know of someone in our lives who has had serious issues such as alcohol or drug abuse. It's called compassion.

Why isn't she on some kind of psychological drug? She needs some depression meds, or some anxiety meds, and a stay in a treatment facility for a month or so. I guess I kind of look at this standoff as if somehow in her mind, she felt threatened and the standoff was her way of trying to protect her kids, or her mind, or something she feels is being taken away from her by bad people. She may very well be at some kind of psychological break here.

That's very true. lol I know I wouldn't even know about half of the celebrity problems if it wasn't for SO. I don't watch tabloid news. It doesn't interest me. I guess SO is becoming a tabloid site. lol
Bingo! S.O. seems to be the place where I get a lot of my news, gossip and other stuff. My boyfriend will tell me, "Oh did you hear abt so and so?" and I will say, "Yeah, I read it on THE BOARD." :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why isn't she on some kind of psychological drug? She needs some depression meds, or some anxiety meds, and a stay in a treatment facility for a month or so. I guess I kind of look at this standoff as if somehow in her mind, she felt threatened and the standoff was her way of trying to protect her kids, or her mind, or something she feels is being taken away from her by bad people. She may very well be at some kind of psychological break here.
You may very well be right, about the psychological break. Something bad is going on inside her mind now. I hope she gets the help she needs, as I would hate to see something bad happen to her. I think, with all that money, get the best doctors that money can buy. I can't help but wonder, who's advising, or watching her these days?

Like most of you, I used to joke about Britney, altho I liked her and still do. But now, she's no laughing matter. I'm praying real hard for her to get better and back to her old self. Blame her behavior on whatever you want, but I don't think anybody can disagree she needs support, love and prayer.

Bingo! S.O. seems to be the place where I get a lot of my news, gossip and other stuff. My boyfriend will tell me, "Oh did you hear abt so and so?" and I will say, "Yeah, I read it on THE BOARD." :lol: :lol: :lol:
Who needs TMZ when you have SO to give you gossip. :lol:

I guess SO is becoming a tabloid site. lol
Tabloid central, for sure. I think it's great that this site keeps up on the latest scoops; however, I would really hate for it to degenerate into a trash and bash forum. That's the direction I see it taking these days. I like joking as much as the next person, but I also enjoy discussing issues that affect celebrities. When the Jamie Spear's story broke, Brieannas and I had an interesting and civil discussion about it. We agreed on practically nothing, but it was a refreshing change from, SHE'S A WHORE, HER SISTER'S A SLUT AND THEIR MOTHER IS A LOSER.

If I want that, I'll stick to the AOL boards. Nothing but a bunch of nasty ass haters there. It seems that a select few here swarm into a thread and pour on the hate. Those few are so vocal that they overpower a thread. It wasn't this way before, and I'm hoping it's just a phase. Someone posts that Jessica Simpson is going country, and it turns into a slamfest, instead of a simple chat or a discussion. Whenever I see a thread with a celebrity in the title, I think, here we go again, with the puking smilies, the hate, the nasty remarks. Paris gets ripped from limb to limb because she went to a New Years Eve party. People taking absolute delight in other's misfortunes. Just piling on. Jokes made about a woman with one leg. And God help the person who has an opposing view.

This thread has worked out well, for the most part. It took a meltdown on Britney's part to make that happen though. Someone joked that Chit Chat is like TMZ 2. That's not too far off the mark. I'm not talking as a moderator now, but as a member, tossing in my two cents.

Tabloid central, for sure. I think it's great that this site keeps up on the latest scoops; however, I would really hate for it to degenerate into a trash and bash forum. That's the direction I see it taking these days. I like joking as much as the next person, but I also enjoy discussing issues that affect celebrities. When the Jamie Spear's story broke, Brieannas and I had an interesting and civil discussion about it. We agreed on practically nothing, but it was a refreshing change from, SHE'S A WHORE, HER SISTER'S A SLUT AND THEIR MOTHER IS A LOSER.

If I want that, I'll stick to the AOL boards. Nothing but a bunch of nasty ass haters there. It seems that a select few here swarm into a thread and pour on the hate. Those few are so vocal that they overpower a thread. It wasn't this way before, and I'm hoping it's just a phase. Someone posts that Jessica Simpson is going country, and it turns into a slamfest, instead of a simple chat or a discussion. Whenever I see a thread with a celebrity in the title, I think, here we go again, with the puking smilies, the hate, the nasty remarks. Paris gets ripped from limb to limb because she went to a New Years Eve party. People taking absolute delight in other's misfortunes. Just piling on. Jokes made about a woman with one leg. And God help the person who has an opposing view.

This thread has worked out well, for the most part. It took a meltdown on Britney's part to make that happen though. Someone joked that Chit Chat is like TMZ 2. That's not too far off the mark. I'm not talking as a moderator now, but as a member, tossing in my two cents.
Yea in all seriousness I have noticed it too. I don't post much in those kind of threads because it does get old after awhile. Everybody's hating on somebody. Their's plenty of celebs I don't care for but I don't want to spend my time bashing them. I don't have anything against Paris or Britney or any of them. I think a lot of them are young and they got famous too fast..Sure they've made mistakes but I don't like to bash them for it. I think a lot of people get a lot of joy out of other people's misery.

Brittney needs to be stripped of all meds. I know this from personal experience that a lot of people on depression meds DONT NEED THEM. A family member of mine had a meltdown like brittney and almost died from it. Once she went off the meds, she is better and she is perfectly healthy right now. The meds almost killed her and i'm glad to have her back to normal.

Brittney needs to be stripped of all meds. I know this from personal experience that a lot of people on depression meds DONT NEED THEM. A family member of mine had a meltdown like brittney and almost died from it. Once she went off the meds, she is better and she is perfectly healthy right now. The meds almost killed her and i'm glad to have her back to normal.
Yeah, she needs a psych eval to determine what would suit her best.

And not by some pretend yes-man doctor who runs a "rehab" facility in some posh LA burb.

Tabloid central, for sure. I think it's great that this site keeps up on the latest scoops; however, I would really hate for it to degenerate into a trash and bash forum. That's the direction I see it taking these days. I like joking as much as the next person, but I also enjoy discussing issues that affect celebrities. When the Jamie Spear's story broke, Brieannas and I had an interesting and civil discussion about it. We agreed on practically nothing, but it was a refreshing change from, SHE'S A WHORE, HER SISTER'S A SLUT AND THEIR MOTHER IS A LOSER.

If I want that, I'll stick to the AOL boards. Nothing but a bunch of nasty ass haters there. It seems that a select few here swarm into a thread and pour on the hate. Those few are so vocal that they overpower a thread. It wasn't this way before, and I'm hoping it's just a phase. Someone posts that Jessica Simpson is going country, and it turns into a slamfest, instead of a simple chat or a discussion. Whenever I see a thread with a celebrity in the title, I think, here we go again, with the puking smilies, the hate, the nasty remarks. Paris gets ripped from limb to limb because she went to a New Years Eve party. People taking absolute delight in other's misfortunes. Just piling on. Jokes made about a woman with one leg. And God help the person who has an opposing view.

This thread has worked out well, for the most part. It took a meltdown on Britney's part to make that happen though. Someone joked that Chit Chat is like TMZ 2. That's not too far off the mark. I'm not talking as a moderator now, but as a member, tossing in my two cents.

I really don't get the hate either, but then again it is just me. I said it once, I think some people are jealous of these celebrities. Rehab is a very serious situation. What if someone you knew or loved were in rehab? Would you laugh at them? Ha Ha Ha she is a manic depressive, that is hysterical! At first, I admit, I found it funny what Britney was doing, I didn't realize the severity of her problems. This has become so tragic.

I don't watch TMZ, I just merely pointed out for this matter I tuned in to see what they would say on this issue because they are usually the first ones to be around when something huge happens. Or even when something insignificant happens. I maintain that those shows and rags that make their living off of invading the privacy of people for $$$ are just doing it because there are people who live their lives digging into the lives of celebs.

Like the Don Henley song goes, "Don't you know that crap is King? Give us dirty laundry."

"Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down...."

Great song! And still a very telling commentary on the times. When Henley released that song back in 1982, we didn't have the amount of celebrity media we do now. Entertainment Tonight was still kind of new, there was no internet(!):eek: and we weren't quite as obsessed with celebrities as we are now.

Now, celebrity gossip shows are common, but back then, not so much. Henley keenly observed what was going on then and is still going on to an even greater degree today.:rolleyes:

^ Agreed! "Dirty Laundry" is one of my favorite Henley songs...that was one song way ahead of its time!

If I were Britney, I'd take that money and leave CA RIGHT NOW. She can afford to live anywhere. It's clear she won't get any better living in the fishbowl of Hollywood.

Tabloid central, for sure. It seems that a select few here swarm into a thread and pour on the hate. Those few are so vocal that they overpower a thread. It wasn't this way before, and I'm hoping it's just a phase. Someone posts that Jessica Simpson is going country, and it turns into a slamfest, instead of a simple chat or a discussion. Whenever I see a thread with a celebrity in the title, I think, here we go again, with the puking smilies, the hate, the nasty remarks. Paris gets ripped from limb to limb because she went to a New Years Eve party. People taking absolute delight in other's misfortunes. Just piling on. Jokes made about a woman with one leg. And God help the person who has an opposing view.
I apologize in advance for being so lengthy. I belong to three forums and this one is the most "tabloidal" of the three. I'm here because I like sitcoms. I do, on occasion, read one or two of the tabloid stories on this site, and that's mostly to see what everyone's thoughts are on the subject, and to get a feel for members' personalities. I recently went poking around some other forums on the internet and was shocked...shocked at the hate that is posted on some of them. Things have gotten out of control when people start bluntly saying that someone should get murdered or that someone doesn't deserve to live. And it's like a cancer that spreads and begins to affect everyone else until you have many posts like that, and until the lesser posts of the nastiest degree begin to seem civil and even nice. This site isn't that bad, and I hope this site doesn't ever get to that place.

My point in posting this is that it's the members-- all the contributing members-- who make this site what it is. There are some great forums out there in which intelligent discussion on just about any topic (including celebrities) can be found. They are usually moderated forums, meaning every post is moderated (approved) to keep the forum that way, and because of that things usually move a lot slower and they are usually much smaller forums. But they are there. I hope I don't step on too many toes, and I apologize in advance if I do, but my guess is that many of us are here and not there because this is the level of tabloid-ness that we prefer. That is why I am here, even though I don't participate much in the tabloid threads, I do skim and sometimes read a few. But the other forums I belong to don't have any posts like that because it's all intelligent discussion in which you can say whatever you want to say as long as it is said purposefully and civilly. The three forums make a balance for me.

I understand that many of you have been here a long time and are very much vested in this forum, but I think that either we do things differently here on our favorite forum or we stop complaining about it and adding to it. Like I said, sorry if I step on toes, but either this is the way it is or this isn't the way it is. Because this isn't a moderated forum and likely never will be in the sense that every post is checked to be sure it fits the site's rules for posting, then it's the members who will decide the climate of this site. Either way it's the members' choice, so if most of the members choose to have it this way, then this is the way it will be just the same way the members have kept this site from becoming "TMZ 2" in the past. And Janice, this post isn't directed personally at you or any of the site administrators, it's just my two cents about the site, in response to your two cents. Keep in mind I'm still here. That's because there are enough other threads to keep me here, and I accept the others for what they are, without feeding the fire. I imagine that's why a lot of us are still here.

Now I'm sure someone or a few someones are going to perceive what I say as something it's not meant to be, (if anyone actually reads it!) and I'll even brace myself for some possible name-calling too, but this is really just my two cents, and I hope you all won't boot me out of here for it. Thanks for reading. :)

"Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down...."

Great song! And still a very telling commentary on the times. When Henley released that song back in 1982, we didn't have the amount of celebrity media we do now. Entertainment Tonight was still kind of new, there was no internet(!):eek: and we weren't quite as obsessed with celebrities as we are now.

Now, celebrity gossip shows are common, but back then, not so much. Henley keenly observed what was going on then and is still going on to an even greater degree today.:rolleyes:
Oh yeah, the internet, blogs, etc. have made for an interesting turn of events as far as celebrity news and gossip are concerned. Henley's song seems so befitting now than it ever did. The 70's seems so innocent now looking back simply because there were no celebrity news shows or gossip shows. Hell, all we had was Rona Barrett. :lol:

I feel for Britney having this meltdown simply because the media was (and will continue to do so) waiting for her to make mistakes, say stupid things and eventually have a major fall. You think the media followed her around just to take a pic? They couldn't wait to see what damage this girl could cause to herself or others. They had to be the "first one" to get the scoop or the pic of her doing just that.

This time she will get the help she needs. The last time cost her major bucks to enter a so-called rehab when all it was, was a place for her to hang her purse and play some tennis. That is not rehab.

I apologize in advance for being so lengthy.
No need to apologize. I'm just as long-winded, lol. Don't worry about any name calling. That's never allowed here. I've seen those disgusting sites myself. The reader comment sections under the stories on AOL, TMZ, etc., can make ones hair stand on end. I'm entering my 7th year here, and things have certainly changed.

Members do make a site, but it's only a handful of members here who are over-the-top. Nobody's looking for a goody-two-shoes forum; however, there's a difference between gossiping and joking about celebs and being crude. It's sort of the difference between Jay Leno's celebrity jokes and South Park's humor.

I'm glad you mentioned moderating though, because it just woke me up. Individually approved moderation isn't the answer. Better moderatation by the moderator is the answer, and that would be me.

I love tabloid news and celebrity gossip as much as the next person. Most of us love gossip. That's not the issue, and it's not against the rules. Offensive posts are against the rules though. When I see a member call Paris Hilton the c word, or call a celeb an STD-infested whore, or when I read pages of jokes about a one-legged disabled person, I have a duty to politely (and preferably privately) warn the members, and to delete the offensive posts. People often are offended when I do that, which often deters me, but I need to put my friendship aside and do my job. TJ has told me this before, and he's right. When I don't stop it, I'm being ineffective in my role as moderator.

This is a wonderful forum. Members are friendly and have a sense of camaraderie. I posted recently how the years are just passing by, and the old-timers are like old friends. Let one of us get sick or lose a loved one (including their pets), and you can really feel the love. :heart: This place is special.

However, I think a few members here hang at TMZ and such places, and carry over that nasty mentality here. I think they forget where they are, lol. I moderate this forum, so it's up to me stop that cancer that you mentioned, and to make sure that Chit Chat doesn't become TMZ 2. TJ, the owner sets the climate of his site, not a handful of members. The moderators carry out his rules. TJ has worked very hard on his site, and he's been successful at creating a classy site, and one forum (Chit Chat) isn't going to bring it down. All that HATEspeak cheapens the site.

Thanks for the wake-up call! I really mean that. :)

I agree with everything that has been said. I think it is horrible when people resort to name calling and wish harm against other people. This forum isn't that bad but i do agree with everything else because it is sick that people wish harm against Britney and people have more negative things to say instead of positive and they should be trying to be more helpful than hurtful in her situation. I also wanna say Janice your doing a good job at least i think so i know your job here can be very difficult at times and I know a few days a go I started those threads that were kind of nonsence about my name and the PM's and stuff. I guess i was just looking for attention because I felt like i was getting much here Ok i know this is off topic so i'll stop. I do think this place is good because it brings people together and we should stay positive most of the time.

No need to apologize. I'm just as long-winded, lol. Don't worry about any name calling. That's never allowed here. I've seen those disgusting sites myself. The reader comment sections under the stories on AOL, TMZ, etc., can make ones hair stand on end. I'm entering my 7th year here, and things have certainly changed. by the moderator is the answer, and that would be me.

I hear that Janice. God, I loathe the comments underneath any AOL news story, whether it is politics, celebs or just the normal average joe story. It sickens me to even glance at the comments, hoping that maybe, just maybe people will actually give an opinion rather than some sick, pathetic, cuss-filled comment. It is disgusting. I have seen that even be carried to my local newspaper. When I read a story online, there are a few stupid jerks who think they can bring that kind of trash talk to the comments section. Thank Goodness people quickly report that stuff and it gets deleted.

I I also wanna say Janice your doing a good job at least i think so i know your job here can be very difficult at times and I know a few days a go I started those threads that were kind of nonsence about my name and the PM's and stuff. I guess i was just looking for attention because I felt like i was getting much here Ok i know this is off topic so i'll stop. I do think this place is good because it brings people together and we should stay positive most of the time.
Thanks Michael. It was no problem, but I did have to tell you. At least is was via PM. :)

It is quite sad that society today is all about seeing what the celebrities are doing wrong. Let me tell you, I screw up everyday, sometimes several times a day and I wouldn't want the whole world to see every little mistake I make and make fun of me and bash me over them. Celebs are PEOPLE plain and simple and I can't even begin to imagine how horrible it must be to have every little thing you do brought into the public eye for scrutiny. ohno:

I'm glad you mentioned moderating though, because it just woke me up. Individually approved moderation isn't the answer. Better moderatation by the moderator is the answer, and that would be me.

I love tabloid news and celebrity gossip as much as the next person. Most of us love gossip. That's not the issue, and it's not against the rules. Offensive posts are against the rules though. When I see a member call Paris Hilton the c word, or call a celeb an STD-infested whore, or when I read pages of jokes about a one-legged disabled person, I have a duty to politely (and preferably privately) warn the members, and to delete the offensive posts. People often are offended when I do that, which often deters me, but I need to put my friendship aside and do my job. TJ has told me this before, and he's right. When I don't stop it, I'm being ineffective in my role as moderator.

However, I think a few members here hang at TMZ and such places, and carry over that nasty mentality here. I think they forget where they are, lol. I moderate this forum, so it's up to me stop that cancer that you mentioned, and to make sure that Chit Chat doesn't become TMZ 2. TJ, the owner sets the climate of his site, not a handful of members. The moderators carry out his rules. TJ has worked very hard on his site, and he's been successful at creating a classy site, and one forum (Chit Chat) isn't going to bring it down. All that HATEspeak cheapens the site.

Thanks for the wake-up call! I really mean that. :)
Cool. :D You're welcome. I am mostly unaware of the moderating process for this site but I'm glad you could take something from my post and apply it in a useful way. I think you are spot-on when you said people visit other sites then come here and forget where they are. I do happen to be a moderator on one of those other forums I was talking about and we see it there too. It really is difficult to warn or have to say something to a member or even delete posts, and a rebellious or authority-challenging reply is even worse to deal with. But I can see that people around here like you, and that makes it easier. It also provides a good base of support when someone does challenge you, and people will generally thank you for keeping a standard and an enjoyable place to visit, too. I think you are a good mod, Janice, and this site and this board is waaaay bigger and waaaay more challenging than the one I work on so I can completely appreciate what you do here. I don't think I could do it as gracefully or as effectively as you do. I know I would fully support you in any effort you make to keep a cleaner board, and you can quote me on that if you ever have to whack me back in line. :lol: Kudos to you! :)

Cool. :D You're welcome. I am mostly unaware of the moderating process for this site but I'm glad you could take something from my post and apply it in a useful way. I think you are spot-on when you said people visit other sites then come here and forget where they are. I do happen to be a moderator on one of those other forums I was talking about and we see it there too. It really is difficult to warn or have to say something to a member or even delete posts, and a rebellious or authority-challenging reply is even worse to deal with. But I can see that people around here like you, and that makes it easier. It also provides a good base of support when someone does challenge you, and people will generally thank you for keeping a standard and an enjoyable place to visit, too. I think you are a good mod, Janice, and this site and this board is waaaay bigger and waaaay more challenging than the one I work on so I can completely appreciate what you do here. I don't think I could do it as gracefully or as effectively as you do. I know I would fully support you in any effort you make to keep a cleaner board, and you can quote me on that if you ever have to whack me back in line. :lol: Kudos to you! :)
^ You just may regret this PM, as I just may drop you a PM or 10 (20) for moderating advice, lol. As you know, it's a balancing act, this moderating gig, and you can't please everyone. Whenever a decision has to be made, chances are that someone's not going to be happy with it. People often take things personally, when there's nothing personal to it, whatsoever.

If a forum isn't moderated, it can turn into a free-for-all, with fights, gangups, horrid stories posted, extreme profanity and pictures, that sort of thing. Nobody really wants that, or they wouldn't be here. I've had a couple of members jokingly, but seriously, tell me that they're glad I keep them in check, because they know they'd go overboard if I didn't. :lol: It also helps me a great deal that TJ trusts my judgement, and that we have a very good rapport.

It's a fantastic group here, and I'm fond of most. There's some very witty and funny people, bright minds, critical thinkers, talented writers and extremely knowledable people. I see so much compassion here. That's why I fear that Chit Chat will catch that 'disease' that you referenced earlier, where it's just bashing 24/7. Some of my best times on this board have been spent debating people who probably don't even care for me, but that's okay. It's good discussion. That's what I love. Interesting, thought-provoking discussion, with humor thrown in. I love the silly threads too. The pie threads. :lol:

As for moderating, I rarely have to tell people what to do, which is great because I don't enjoy that part of it, at all. My husband says offhandedly, if I can get him to look up from his Sox or Patriot's game, "Just tell them to stop whatever they're doing wrong, and what time are the buffalo wings ready, and did you order pepperoni on the pizza?" As if it's that easy, to tell adults what to do, NOT. When I do, I'd say 95% of people take warnings, deleted posts or whatever, in stride. It's that other 5%.... but as Oprah says, "That's another show."
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^ You just may regret this PM, as I just may drop you a PM or 10 (20) for moderating advice, lol. As you know, it's a balancing act, this moderating gig, and you can't please everyone. Whenever a decision has to be made, chances are that someone's not going to be happy with it. People often take things personally, when there's nothing personal to it, whatsoever.
Yup, yup. When I first became a mod people definitely treated me differently, and everything I did or said took on a whole 'nother meaning whether I intended it to have that meaning or not. I have a member who took something personally that actually wasn't even about them and is still not speaking to me over it even though I tried to explain the situation. Another got upset when I had to interrupt the direction a conversation was going and responded with a full-out authority-challenging series of posts. That's where the rest of the members came to my rescue and support behind the scenes and gave me the confidence to answer on the boards the way I needed to. Kinda hurts, doesn't it? Especially when we're only helping out-- it's not like this is a paying job-- and it's tough when these people are your friends too...at least in a job your primary purpose there isn't to chit chat and make friends. :crazy: I say have mercy on the mods...or go away :happyface Anyway...Back to Britney... :lol:

watching old shows with her on it and some of her old music videos just makes me sad. Like the other day I saw an SNL rerun where she hosted it with Justin... she seemed to have it all together, and now she's just a mess. Makes me sad.

Nothing to say except; I wish her the best and pray she will seek help before it's truly to late.

watching old shows with her on it and some of her old music videos just makes me sad. Like the other day I saw an SNL rerun where she hosted it with Justin... she seemed to have it all together, and now she's just a mess. Makes me sad.
It is sad. Over the weekend, I saw a clip of Britney, performing in concert, when she was at the peak of her career. She was so talented, looked positively beautiful, and the audience was going wild. I still hold out out hope for Britney. I read today that she had no drugs in her system, with this recent incident. I'm taking that as good news.

You have to love the chutzpah of Dr. Phil. When he first emerged, I liked his no-nonsense, no BS approach, but since he's gotten his own show, he's gotten obnoxious. He's written a weight loss book(yeah, he looks fit), appeared in the movie Scary Movie IV and The Simpsons. He is a media whore who saw a celebrity angle and pursued it.

A couple of years ago, he did an interview with Pat O' Brien, fresh out of rehab after an embarassing taped phone call showed him soliciting sex from a woman.

At first, Dr. Phil was hard-hitting and not letting O' Brien get away with anything, but by the end of the long interview, he was lobbing softballs and kissing Pat's ass.

So sad.:rolleyes:

on AOL it was saying that she has bipolar disorder i don't know if it's true or not and it sent me to TMZ and said that the responsible people in her life are trying to convince her to voluntarily enter a mental hospital.

Britney Tests Drug-Free in Hospital

Singer Reportedly Gives Dr. Phil the Cold Shoulder
AP/AOL
LOS ANGELES (Jan. 7) - Those who believed that Britney Spears was under the influence of substances as she was wheeled off to a hospital last week are mistaken, a source tells PEOPLE. (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20169688,00.html?xid=britney-substance-free-aol-entertainment-news)

The "reliable source" says that Spears tested free of illegal drugs and alcohol during her time at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. "She tested clean," says the source. "This lady is as clean as clean can be, and has been for some time." Another source tells PEOPLE they believe the singer has an undiagnosed bipolar disorder. She's "suffered from a psychological disease for years" says the source.

Meanwhile, television's "Dr. Phil" McGraw said Britney Spears still needs psychological help after her breakdown last week which was caught on film. The troubled pop star was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center by paramedics Thursday night after police were called to her home because of a dispute involving the two sons she had with ex-husband Kevin Federline.

"My meeting with Britney and some family members this morning in her room at Cedars leaves me convinced more than ever that she is in dire need of both medical and psychological intervention," McGraw told Entertainment Tonight and The Insider.

"She was released moments before my arrival and was packing when I entered the room. We visited for about an hour before I walked with her to her car. I am very concerned for her," he said.

McGraw explains to ET and The Insider how he came to be involved with Britney. "I want to set the record straight. I went to see Britney at the request of her family. I talked to Lynne, Jamie, and Brian, because they were frustrated that she wasn't going to be held for a longer time."

"Thursday night, the phone rang, it was Lynne, clearly she was very upset," says McGraw. "Any parent would be. I was first contacted by her family a year ago, and had maintained a running dialogue for the last year or so."

PEOPLE's deputy managing editor Peter Castro said during a 'Today' interview that McGraw is revered by Britney's father and was asked to intervene. According to Castro, Britney doesn't agree with her father's views and made McGraw's face-to-face with her a very brief meeting.

Responding to an e-mail request for further comment from McGraw, a "Dr. Phil" publicist referred The Associated Press to his statement posted on the etonline.com Web site.

McGraw had planned to talk more about Spears on his daytime talk show this week, but has sinced decided to cancel the episode.

In a statement posted Monday on his Web site, McGraw said the 26-year-old pop star's situation was "too intense" for him to go forward with the show. He didn't say whether he planned to reschedule.

Medical center officials have had no comment on Spears, and authorities have given no full explanation of why she was hospitalized.

The incident at Spears' home lasted several hours. A Los Angeles police spokeswoman said Friday that officers at the scene determined that paramedics "needed to be called" but it was unclear why.

A message seeking comment from Spears' attorneys at the law firm Trope and Trope was not immediately returned Saturday.

At an emergency hearing Friday, a court commissioner suspended Spears' right to visit sons Sean Preston, 2, and Jayden James, 1. The commissioner also gave sole physical and legal custody to Federline.

Previously, Federline had temporary custody and Spears had court-monitored visitation.

The court set another hearing for Jan. 14.

Spears and Federline married in October 2004. Her life has spiraled downward since their divorce in July. She has been photographed without underwear and appeared to be drunk and out-of-control in public. She shaved her head, beat a car with an umbrella and spent a month in rehab.

He's written a weight loss book(yeah, he looks fit)
Maybe he was using the, don't-pig-out-or-you'll-look-like-me approach. :lol:

She is suffering from Papparrazi-itis. THEY NEED TO GO TO HELL! :mad:

Bipolar is something I had heard before that she may be suffering from. Just because she didn't have any drugs in her system, doesn't mean she hadn't been doing any sort of drugs before. It could be she had done drugs and it only intensified her possible Bipolar disorder, if that is in fact what she has.

Whatever the problem is, I just hope she gets help.

the paparatzi needs to lay off of her for a while. she needs to stay out of the spotlight, move out of Hollywood and get some serious help. she should put her album on hold and just focus on getting herself back on track right now.

she can't get better if she's in the spotlight, imo. she needs to go under the radar, definitely.

Could well be she's just so depressed that it was a plain, old-fashioned nervous breakdown. I've seen people have them (and I had one myself at 15). It's not pretty but sometimes what's needed to bring things to a head. Just so sad that the papz are still on her like flies and everyone had to see it. Most people don't have it slammed all over the press.

We'll never know exactly what she's going through. Over the years I've adapted the theory about "walking a mile in another's shoes". At first we weren't sure if she was just getting publicity, but it's so obvious now that she's in a crisis.

I thought I read on Yahoo that Dr. Phil cancelled his Britney-centered show. Who knows what the real story is there. ohno:

I thought I read on Yahoo that Dr. Phil cancelled his Britney-centered show. Who knows what the real story is there. ohno:


I was actually a little surprised that he was even going to try to do a show - although I'm sure it wouldn't have had Britney in it as much as "this is a lesson to those...." (I would hope)

But then I heard she would only speak to him for 15 minutes and it was her family, not her that summoned him. Again, you can only lead a horse to water.

But then again, is this all tabloid crap. I tend to wait a bit now when stories come out before assuming they're the God's truth. Especially when it comes to Britney now.

Dr. Phil's wife and Lynn Spears apparently are friends. So, there must have been a time when Lynn must have consulted with Dr. Phil abt Britney. But as Cathy intelligiently pointed out, you can't force someone to get help. THEY HAVE TO WANT TO GET HELP. YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PROBLEM TO TRY AND CHANGE IT.

Dr. Phil did talk abt the whole Britney saga on one of his shows a few months ago. He talked abt it while talking abt other things such as rehab, etc.

the responsible people in her life are trying to convince her to voluntarily enter a mental hospital.

There are responsible people in her life?

Anyone see the footage they showed on Inside Edition tonight? Brit was sitting on a balcony with some paparazzo wearing only a shirt (aka, no pants whatsoever...including undies), smoking a cigarette and sharing a lollipop with this guy. ohno:

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....yeah -- I thought I'd pipe in and say that people are getting sick of the same old rock/hip-hop/r&b bullsh*t..... and there is just this big upsurge from a new style coming out of Europe -- it's pretty easy to find, just put 'euro club hits' into itunes or check this link: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearchResults?albumTerm=Euro+Club+Hits+Vol+
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