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waichingliu81
12-24-2007, 09:32 AM
By WENN world entertainment news - Sunday, December 23 11:30 am

Will Smith has stunned the world by declaring that even Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler was essentially a "good" person.

The Men In Black star, 39, is determined to see the best in people, and is convinced the former German leader did not fully understand the extent of the pain and suffering his actions would cause during his time in power in the 1930s and '40s.

He says, "Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'Let me do the most evil thing I can do today'.

"I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good'. Stuff like that just needs reprogramming."

Hitler's totalitarian leadership as Fuhrer during 1934 until his eventual suicide in 1945 resulted in the persecution of an estimated six million Jews in the Holocaust, and his invasion of Poland in 1939 led to the start of the Second World War.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20071223/ten-smith-hitler-was-a-good-person-c60bd6d_1.html

tell that to the millions of jews, of whom were gassed to death by that egomaniac. when there's a will there is a way, and yet for will smith, this might be his biggest gaffe yet

TJL
12-24-2007, 10:32 AM
Will, Will, Will...

Mel Gibson and Kramer called. They want to know if you want to join their "Why the Hell Did I Say That" Club.

;)

catlover79
12-24-2007, 10:40 AM
Say WHAT!?? :rolleyes: :mad:

JT
12-24-2007, 11:22 AM
I think what he said was totally misunderstood. It's all in psychology. No one is born with sinister intentions. Criminals aren't born, they're made. No, it definitely does not change the fact that millions of innocent people were unjustly tortured and brutally murdered. That's a fact in history that should never be forgotten.

BUT, a case like Hitler's should have been used to prevent anything like it from happening again. Something happened in this man's life, something affected him in such a way to turn him against people. It's much too easy to just say that he was "born that way," and that'll be the way racism and hate will continue to live on. The only way to stop this kind of evil is to figure out how it forms and what triggers it.

Zebra 3
12-24-2007, 04:42 PM
Gamers know Microsoft was responsible for Hitler's ultimate downfall.
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYvZnTFpip0) (warning: coarse language)

Lee
12-24-2007, 06:09 PM
I think what he said was totally misunderstood. It's all in psychology. No one is born with sinister intentions. Criminals aren't born, they're made. No, it definitely does not change the fact that millions of innocent people were unjustly tortured and brutally murdered. That's a fact in history that should never be forgotten.

BUT, a case like Hitler's should have been used to prevent anything like it from happening again. Something happened in this man's life, something affected him in such a way to turn him against people. It's much too easy to just say that he was "born that way," and that'll be the way racism and hate will continue to live on. The only way to stop this kind of evil is to figure out how it forms and what triggers it.

Hitler was pure evil. He needed to be removed from this world. Racism and
hatred will continue to exist as long as people like him exist in this world.

Dean Winchester
12-24-2007, 06:15 PM
I bet Will will be blacklisted from the industry much like Mel Gibson was

TJL
12-24-2007, 06:43 PM
I bet Will will be blacklisted from the industry much like Mel Gibson was

Since this story broke over this weekend when just about everyone is off on vacation, (espacially the media) this might be forgotten about by the time the week is over.

Dean Winchester
12-24-2007, 06:50 PM
Since this story broke over this weekend when just about everyone is off on vacation, (espacially the media) this might be forgotten about by the time the week is over.
memo to all racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic celebrities.... say what you really think on Christmas week, nobody will care to report it :lol:

Ireneparalegal
12-24-2007, 08:31 PM
Since this story broke over this weekend when just about everyone is off on vacation, (espacially the media) this might be forgotten about by the time the week is over.
I agree. Even big news is forgotten abt over time. Remember, Anna Nicole died in January and that was big news. Now, no one even talks abt her now.

As for Will's comment, all I can say is, no matter how Hitler came to be the way he was, he slaughtered millions of human beings and I could give a rat's ass abt that bastard. All I care abt is making sure that no one in any capacity ever does that again. I don't want to analyze Hitler's childhood, nor his teen years or anything else.

Sure Hitler didn't wake up one day and state, "Let me kill 6 million jews." But he developed his hate early on, racism is taught, however, I truly believe he was born and bred to want to maim and murder just like any other serial killer. Jeffrey Dahmer had those feelings as a child, so why not anyone else?

Janice
12-24-2007, 09:42 PM
I'm sure he didn't mean to sound stupid, but it sure sounded like a stupid thing to say, to me. They just need reprogramming. Okaaay, Will. I think some people are born evil, and that not all evil is created. We see it all the time in the news, after a guy goes on a murderous spree. "He was such a nice guy. Came from such a nice family...." Some people shoot up their workplace because they lose their jobs. Makes me wonder, had they not lost their jobs, and had no other problems, would they go through life without killing a lot of people.

Ireneparalegal
12-24-2007, 09:56 PM
^^^ I see we agree Janice. Some people are born "evil" plain and simple. Even Dahmer was described as being a "nice guy." Ted Bundy as well.

JT
12-24-2007, 11:53 PM
Anybody can be described as a "nice guy." A guy can have a wonderful life. He can be a swinging bachelor with his whole life in front of him, an excellent job, a loving family, and loyal friends. But if none of the people around him can tell the warning signs of something wrong or if no one takes him seriously when he says he's depressed or that he doesn't know how he'll go on, a person can only take so much before they train themselves (or learn from others) that the only way to get attention is to murder. It's a horrible truth that many people are afraid to look at, and that's why serial killers and the such continue to thrive. No one wants to sit down and research the life of a serial killer. Who would want to do that? But that's why there are analysts and psychologists. You can't chalk every serial killer up to just evil. Evil comes from somewhere, even if it's as early as infancy. The more the professionals look into the lives of killers, the more people would be able to see a tragedy before it happens.

All of this is just IMO, by the way. In no way at all am I defending the likes of Hitler at all. I'm just saying...you take a kid who walks into his school and kills his entire class. And then as the story sweeps across the nation, it becomes known that that kid had been ridiculed and teased since kindergarten by those classmates. You have to wonder why no one expected him to do what he did. In no way does that make it right, but had one person put aside everything in order to help out this kid, would there have been such a tragedy? And would the world learn something from this? Or would people continue to alienate each other and treat each other like crap, only to be surprised when someone is pushed too far.

And I'm not saying that that is the case for all killers. I know it's not. I know that there are people out there who kill because they're bored. But I think it's unfair to put all killers into the same category.

Chelsea
12-25-2007, 12:13 AM
Will Smith angry, says comment about Adolf Hitler misinterpreted
The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES—Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish newspaper about Adolf Hitler.

In a story published Saturday in the Daily Record, Smith was quoted saying: "Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'"

The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: "Remarkably, Will believes everyone is basically good."

Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a "good" person.

"It is an awful and disgusting lie," Smith said in a statement Monday provided by his publicist. "It speaks to the dangerous power of an ignorant person with a pen. I am incensed and infuriated to have to respond to such ludicrous misinterpretation."

"Adolf Hitler was a vile, heinous vicious killer responsible for one of the greatest acts of evil committed on this planet," read the statement.

JT
12-25-2007, 12:20 AM
Will Smith angry, says comment about Adolf Hitler misinterpreted
The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES—Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish newspaper about Adolf Hitler.

In a story published Saturday in the Daily Record, Smith was quoted saying: "Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.'"

The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: "Remarkably, Will believes everyone is basically good."

Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a "good" person.

"It is an awful and disgusting lie," Smith said in a statement Monday provided by his publicist. "It speaks to the dangerous power of an ignorant person with a pen. I am incensed and infuriated to have to respond to such ludicrous misinterpretation."

"Adolf Hitler was a vile, heinous vicious killer responsible for one of the greatest acts of evil committed on this planet," read the statement.
I knew deep down that that had to have been the case. Will Smith...a Hitler fan? Who in the hell would think that?

Adamantium
12-25-2007, 02:12 AM
I knew deep down that that had to have been the case. Will Smith...a Hitler fan? Who in the hell would think that?

I agree. I knew what he was saying. A "Will Smith sees the good in everybody" story turns into a "Hitler really WAS evil" story.

Nowhere in the quotes did Will say "Hitler was a good person." That was made up by the person who wrote the article.

Janice
12-25-2007, 02:37 AM
I never misunderstood Smith's comments. I know he didn't say Hitler was a good person. I just don't think that it was wise to use Hitler as an example of there being good in everyone. I also disagree with Smith. I believe Hitler wanted world domination, and he knew killing was wrong. He hid the concentration camps.

I also don't believe that there is good in everyone, and as I stated earlier, some people are born evil. Perfect parents, perfect upbringing, lots of love, mega hugs, no bullying, on and on. Just evil. They're born without a conscience. They can snuff out a life, and eat a burger two minutes later. They can eat the burger of the person they just killed. It's along the lines of sociopathic behavior. No guilt or remorse. The wiring in the brain is off. They couldn't feel guilty if they tried.

Ireneparalegal
12-25-2007, 02:41 AM
I never misunderstood Smith's comments. I know he didn't say Hitler was a good person. I just don't think that it was wise to use Hitler as an example of there being good in everyone. I also disagree with Smith. I believe Hitler wanted world domination, and he knew killing was wrong. He hid the concentration camps.

I also don't believe that there is good in everyone, and as I stated earlier, some people are born evil. Perfect parents, perfect upbringing, lots of love, mega hugs, no bullying, on and on. Just evil. They're born without a conscience. They can snuff out a life, and eat a burger two minutes later. They can eat the burger of the person they just killed. It's along the lines of sociopathic behavior. No guilt or remorse. The wiring in the brain is off. They couldn't feel guilty if they tried.
:yeahthat: That is how I feel. Sorry world, but there are people who know right from wrong and still commit evil. If they were incompetent or insane, why would they hide their wrongdoings?

Adamantium
12-25-2007, 02:43 AM
I just don't think that it was wise to use Hitler as an example of there being good in everyone.

I'll agree with that, lol. I guess Will thought of who he considered the worst person in history and tried saying that even HE had some good in him. Which probably wasn't so, but I understand what he meant by it.

Janice
12-25-2007, 02:48 AM
I'll agree with that, lol. I guess Will thought of who he considered the worst person in history and tried saying that even HE had some good in him. Which probably wasn't so, but I understand what he meant by it.
I love Will Smith. I see all his movies. I'm a big fan. I'll bet if he could take it back, he would. Maybe not. He didn't mean anything wrong. I'm sure Smith knows that next in line to Hitler's hate of Jews, came gay and black people. This doesn't change a thing with me, although Nick@Nite overplays Fresh Prince. Wait, am I on the General Board? :lol:

Okay, wrong topic. As Oprah would say, that's another show, lol.

Janice
12-25-2007, 02:51 AM
:yeahthat: That is how I feel. Sorry world, but there are people who know right from wrong and still commit evil. If they were incompetent or insane, why would they hide their wrongdoings?
Irene, when are you going to open the Christmas e:card I sent you, May, June? :lol: How's the turkey going? In the oven yet, or are you waiting for 4am? Is that what you said?

Ireneparalegal
12-25-2007, 02:54 AM
Irene, when are you going to open the Christmas e:card I sent you, May, June? :lol: How's the turkey going? In the oven yet, or are you waiting for 4am? Is that what you said?
What? I got to look. I am on my boyfriend's account. He wanted me to check out something earlier in the day and I just left it on his account. :crazy: I was going to put the turkey in at 4 a.m. but I realized the size of the turkey means it only needs 3 hours to cook, so I will wait til morning. Let me check my email....

waichingliu81
12-25-2007, 07:18 AM
memo to all racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic celebrities.... say what you really think on Christmas week, nobody will care to report it :lol:

:clap :thanks:

waichingliu81
12-25-2007, 07:27 AM
I never misunderstood Smith's comments. I know he didn't say Hitler was a good person. I just don't think that it was wise to use Hitler as an example of there being good in everyone. I also disagree with Smith. I believe Hitler wanted world domination, and he knew killing was wrong. He hid the concentration camps.

I also don't believe that there is good in everyone, and as I stated earlier, some people are born evil. Perfect parents, perfect upbringing, lots of love, mega hugs, no bullying, on and on. Just evil. They're born without a conscience. They can snuff out a life, and eat a burger two minutes later. They can eat the burger of the person they just killed. It's along the lines of sociopathic behavior. No guilt or remorse. The wiring in the brain is off. They couldn't feel guilty if they tried.

he could've mentioned anyone else but hitler. though at least he didn't mention saddam, or osama bin laden along the same lines. with hitler, i assume he was a good kid but as he grew up he became a madman, a dictator, a murderer

Zebra 3
12-25-2007, 06:20 PM
I never misunderstood Smith's comments. I know he didn't say Hitler was a good person. For what it's worth, the title does quote him saying this.

Smith: 'Hitler was a good person'

tv star collector
12-25-2007, 06:36 PM
he could've mentioned anyone else but hitler. though at least he didn't mention saddam, or osama bin laden along the same lines. with hitler, i assume he was a good kid but as he grew up he became a madman, a dictator, a murderer

Betty Boop creator Grim Natwick, who passed the entrance exam to the same
art academy that rejected Adolf Hitler, often wondered if world history would
have been different if Hitler had been accepted instead of him.

Myles
12-25-2007, 07:37 PM
Man oh man, what garbage journalism. Whoever wrote this story should be ashamed. No doubt this was only published to draw as much attention as possible. What kind of organization is World Entertainment News anyway? Seems to be some outlandish National Enquirer Watanabe.
I agree with Janice, he made a bad decision by using Hitler as an example. And yes, perhaps Will didn't explain himself clearly enough, but that headline is absolutely ridiculous! NONE of the quotes provided have Will saying "Hitler was a good person". What he said was that Hitler probably viewed himself as a good person. I too don't think evil people laugh maniacally and shout, "MWAHAHAHA! Let's create some chaos today, for I am an evil person bent on worldwide mayhem!" Seriously, get real.

JT
12-25-2007, 08:31 PM
I never misunderstood Smith's comments. I know he didn't say Hitler was a good person. I just don't think that it was wise to use Hitler as an example of there being good in everyone. I also disagree with Smith. I believe Hitler wanted world domination, and he knew killing was wrong. He hid the concentration camps.

I also don't believe that there is good in everyone, and as I stated earlier, some people are born evil. Perfect parents, perfect upbringing, lots of love, mega hugs, no bullying, on and on. Just evil. They're born without a conscience. They can snuff out a life, and eat a burger two minutes later. They can eat the burger of the person they just killed. It's along the lines of sociopathic behavior. No guilt or remorse. The wiring in the brain is off. They couldn't feel guilty if they tried.
But don't you believe that something has to be psychologically wrong with a person who is able to do that?

And don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to take away blame from the people who do these types of things. I believe that they are cowards who are completely uneducated about themselves. They need to step out of themselves for a bit and ask the question..."What's wrong with me?" They're the ones who need to suck it up and go to someone who can help them before tragedy strikes.

Janice
12-25-2007, 09:31 PM
But don't you believe that something has to be psychologically wrong with a person who is able to do that?

And don't get me wrong, I'm trying to take away blame from the people who do these types of things. I believe that they are cowards who are completely uneducated about themselves. They need to step out of themselves for a bit and ask the question..."What's wrong with me?" They're the ones who need to suck it up and go to someone who can help them before tragedy strikes.
Yes, I believe something's wrong with these people. That's what I meant when I said that a person's wiring is often off in their brain. There's all types of mental illness. Son of Son was schizophrenic. Many of those people lose touch with reality, and are delusional. He said a neighbor's dog told him to murder.

Most serial murdererers are sociopaths, incapable of guilt, but are still aware that what they're doing is viewed as wrong by society. There's Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer. Some just suddenly snap, and shoot up a McDonald's or their workplace. The unfortunate thing is that they often act normal until it's too late. Others may just appear offbeat, but not exhibit any cause for alarm. I can think of a few in-laws I wouldn't mind having evaluated. :lol: j/k

Janice
12-25-2007, 09:34 PM
For what it's worth, the title does quote him saying this.
I know, that's what I posted, that I know he didn't say that. The title is misleading.

waichingliu81
12-26-2007, 05:43 AM
if the title and the article is indeed misleading, and will smith DIDN'T quote those exact words, then the journalist of this website who wrote this ought to be ashamed of himself. if he did make this up, or altered a few words to make it sound as if will was sympathising with hitler, then the guy responsible is a jerk and should be sacked

coffield3
12-26-2007, 06:17 AM
I just think Will Smith is dumb and that he dosn't know what he is saying half the time! Iam legend looks good though! :lol:

Janice
12-26-2007, 03:04 PM
if the title and the article is indeed misleading, and will smith DIDN'T quote those exact words, then the journalist of this website who wrote this ought to be ashamed of himself. if he did make this up, or altered a few words to make it sound as if will was sympathising with hitler, then the guy responsible is a jerk and should be sacked
I believe it's the title that's misleading. Smith isn't denying what's quoted in the article, but is taking issue with the way some are interpreting his words.

waichingliu81
12-26-2007, 03:58 PM
I just think Will Smith is dumb and that he dosn't know what he is saying half the time! Iam legend looks good though! :lol:

hang on claire, i thought you said you weren't a fan of the bloke in previous posts