DTF955
12-07-2007, 04:15 PM
A few random TVU thoughts as the Chronology is completed:
1. Was the Book Universe born out of a writer split? D.J. was more than happy to keep her room clean, she wasn't into the teen magazines near like Steph (two time I recall they were mentioned, and one was in a negative light - the models in "Shape Up" - while the other had Steph looking a tthem and getting ideas, in "The Dating Game"). Clearly more conservative values in music, though D.J. gets a bit more liberal in High School, Steph does at an earlier age. Mentions of God in the first few seasons, like Steph praying for Mr. Bear's return and Danny praying the blessing.
I suspect writers who work on the show were told, "We want you to put together some books; we've got two audiences here, and the network would like to please the more liberal, but we've got conservative viewers who should like the books." Hence "Uncle" Joey in a few, more evidences that D.J. is a quasi-mother figure, a few mentions of prayer by the girls, skipping Sunday morning in a series of events on the weekend in a few books to denote they could be in church. While on TV Steph's a bit more of a rebel, though still not too bad. And, Michelle, according to some, has a bit of an attitude yet, like Jesse, whereas not in the books.
it makes the theory about D.J. dedicating herself ring even more true, because somehow, the more conservative values are kept a bit more. And, as in quite a few families, makes it seem that the mom was the churchgoing one, perhaps.
Speaking of creators...
I am surprised nobody has ever spread an Internet rumor that I am connected with Jeff Franklin. I'm *not*, but I'm surprised it's never been rumored and I have never been asked. It would make sense for a writer, whose creation was perhaps mishandled toward the end, to want to 'set the record straight" somehow. Maybe Internet rumors aren't as popular as we think. Or, maybe we respect one another's anonymity more than we think.
Or, maybe we figure the creators would be more open about who they were. Except with all the imitators out there, who would believe them if they said who they were?
Jesse and Becky moving:
It strikes me that many people don't know the cost of living in San Francisco. I would guess, though I couldn't be sure, that those who complain Jesse and Becky should have moved out right away have never had to pay rent.
Rent for a fair sized place like Becky's (We see it in "Honey, I Broke the House" - I think she rents a house, though it could be one of several in a row that all front on the outside) in SF would cost over $1000 a month. In a suburb, which I thik it could be, it'd be close if not more. Not only that, but Jesse and Joey are running a business that is apparently struggling because we don't see them doing many jobs for it - so Jesse's not pulling in any money or very little, not till his record deal.
So, the people who complain about that date have likely not thought about the problem of money in real life. The writers actually got that right, but there is a time when they could have moved very logically. And been very close to the Tanners.
Michelle couldn't have gone far to "run away" to Teddy's; we can tell it's very close. the time to move would have been when the record deal came, or at least when Jesse got his radio show job.
Think about it instead of $1000 a month rent, they get to save that money every month for 18 months. $18000 is a good down payment even in that area, combined with what they would normally have. (No down payment loans didn't exist then and are too risky, anyway. And, Danny's the one who wanted them there just as much, anyway.)
I know there aren't many on here who wonder, but to those who do, I'm sorry, you've got the right idea on them moving out more often than not, but your timing is all wrong.
Which makes me wonder - how did Teddy move back? It's possible his dad's job sent him to Amarillo for 18 months to work on stuff, maybe with a promtion and moving back there if things went well and he wanted to? it's quite possible. Then, perhaps they got the same house, and it never went on the market, because he knew he'd be back. And, please don't complain that we never heard that - what first grader would understand that? All they'd care about is moving now and being gone.
So, maybe Teddy's house never was for sale. The company could have paid the upkeep or even owned the house in the first place.
1. Was the Book Universe born out of a writer split? D.J. was more than happy to keep her room clean, she wasn't into the teen magazines near like Steph (two time I recall they were mentioned, and one was in a negative light - the models in "Shape Up" - while the other had Steph looking a tthem and getting ideas, in "The Dating Game"). Clearly more conservative values in music, though D.J. gets a bit more liberal in High School, Steph does at an earlier age. Mentions of God in the first few seasons, like Steph praying for Mr. Bear's return and Danny praying the blessing.
I suspect writers who work on the show were told, "We want you to put together some books; we've got two audiences here, and the network would like to please the more liberal, but we've got conservative viewers who should like the books." Hence "Uncle" Joey in a few, more evidences that D.J. is a quasi-mother figure, a few mentions of prayer by the girls, skipping Sunday morning in a series of events on the weekend in a few books to denote they could be in church. While on TV Steph's a bit more of a rebel, though still not too bad. And, Michelle, according to some, has a bit of an attitude yet, like Jesse, whereas not in the books.
it makes the theory about D.J. dedicating herself ring even more true, because somehow, the more conservative values are kept a bit more. And, as in quite a few families, makes it seem that the mom was the churchgoing one, perhaps.
Speaking of creators...
I am surprised nobody has ever spread an Internet rumor that I am connected with Jeff Franklin. I'm *not*, but I'm surprised it's never been rumored and I have never been asked. It would make sense for a writer, whose creation was perhaps mishandled toward the end, to want to 'set the record straight" somehow. Maybe Internet rumors aren't as popular as we think. Or, maybe we respect one another's anonymity more than we think.
Or, maybe we figure the creators would be more open about who they were. Except with all the imitators out there, who would believe them if they said who they were?
Jesse and Becky moving:
It strikes me that many people don't know the cost of living in San Francisco. I would guess, though I couldn't be sure, that those who complain Jesse and Becky should have moved out right away have never had to pay rent.
Rent for a fair sized place like Becky's (We see it in "Honey, I Broke the House" - I think she rents a house, though it could be one of several in a row that all front on the outside) in SF would cost over $1000 a month. In a suburb, which I thik it could be, it'd be close if not more. Not only that, but Jesse and Joey are running a business that is apparently struggling because we don't see them doing many jobs for it - so Jesse's not pulling in any money or very little, not till his record deal.
So, the people who complain about that date have likely not thought about the problem of money in real life. The writers actually got that right, but there is a time when they could have moved very logically. And been very close to the Tanners.
Michelle couldn't have gone far to "run away" to Teddy's; we can tell it's very close. the time to move would have been when the record deal came, or at least when Jesse got his radio show job.
Think about it instead of $1000 a month rent, they get to save that money every month for 18 months. $18000 is a good down payment even in that area, combined with what they would normally have. (No down payment loans didn't exist then and are too risky, anyway. And, Danny's the one who wanted them there just as much, anyway.)
I know there aren't many on here who wonder, but to those who do, I'm sorry, you've got the right idea on them moving out more often than not, but your timing is all wrong.
Which makes me wonder - how did Teddy move back? It's possible his dad's job sent him to Amarillo for 18 months to work on stuff, maybe with a promtion and moving back there if things went well and he wanted to? it's quite possible. Then, perhaps they got the same house, and it never went on the market, because he knew he'd be back. And, please don't complain that we never heard that - what first grader would understand that? All they'd care about is moving now and being gone.
So, maybe Teddy's house never was for sale. The company could have paid the upkeep or even owned the house in the first place.