I won this magazine and kind of forgot to pay for it because so many things happen in the past 2 weeks. So a unpaid item claim was open on me and I said-"OH **** i forgot to pay and did that today and after paying for the item and asking the seller when it would be mailed, this is the response I got

"WE ARE OUT OF TOWN AND WILL MAIL YOUR ITEM wHEN WE RETURN.



So i said F*ck the item and I demanded a refund and will dispute through paypal tomorrow. I don't even want the item anymore. I can't believe that someone would send such a rertarded a$$ email after I made a payment

Well, they are going out of town, is it their fault you forgot? :lol:

what are they supposed to do? it was up to you to pay on time....not their fault you didn't remember until they were temporarily unable to ship the item.

Well, they are going out of town, is it their fault you forgot? :lol:


I received no return date after paying my money. they can be out of town until nov 8th. So i just didn't like the email

what are they supposed to do? it was up to you to pay on time....not their fault you didn't remember until they were temporarily unable to ship the item.


THEY DIDN"T GIVE ME A RETURN DATE!!

I received no return date after paying my money. they can be out of town until nov 8th. So i just didn't like the email
Exactly. They can be out of town til January for all they care. They obviously put the item up for auction and when you bid on an item that is auctioned, you have the responsibility to pay up ASAP and abide by the seller and how they go abt getting you your item.

And just because you didn't like the tone of the email gives you no contractual right to bow out of the deal. It is no one's fault you have a bad memory. If that is the case, and you have too much on your mind, don't bo bidding on items on ebay. ;) :lol:

Exactly. They can be out of town til January for all they care. They obviously put the item up for auction and when you bid on an item that is auctioned, you have the responsibility to pay up ASAP and abide by the seller and how they go abt getting you your item.

And just because you didn't like the tone of the email gives you no contractual right to bow out of the deal. It is no one's fault you have a bad memory. If that is the case, and you have too much on your mind, don't bo bidding on items on ebay. ;) :lol:


So it's ok for a seller to say-"I DON"TKNOW" to a buyer after asking when the item would be mailed?

So it's ok for a seller to say-"I DON"TKNOW" to a buyer after asking when the item would be mailed?
Read between the lines Solomon. I believe they are ALREADY ON VACATION...they may have access to a computer or have a laptop, therefore, they don't know offhand when they can mail that out to you.

It says above "WE ARE OUT OF TOWN..."

Read between the lines Solomon. I believe they are ALREADY ON VACATION...they may have access to a computer or have a laptop, therefore, they don't know offhand when they can mail that out to you.

It says above "WE ARE OUT OF TOWN..."


Well the CMM was sh*TTY and I demanded a refund through paypal. I don't do business with people like that

Well the CMM was sh*TTY and I demanded a refund through paypal. I don't do business with people like that
CMM?

"WE ARE OUT OF TOWN AND WILL MAIL YOUR ITEM wHEN WE RETURN.

This sounds like one of those automated responses people use when they go on vacation.



"So i said F*ck the item and I demanded a refund and will dispute through paypal tomorrow. I don't even want the item anymore. I can't believe that someone would send such a rertarded a$$ email after I made a payment

Unless they've changed their rules, Paypal won't do anything until 30 days have passed and even then they won't take any kind of action based on what you've mentioned here. Paypal will only intervene if you don't receive the magazine and it's up to the seller to prove you got it by providing a tracking #.

If you have a confirmed address and the seller can prove it was shipped there then you might as well forget it. If the seller hasn't left you a negative comment then I suggest that you just be patient and let him ship the magazine when he returns. He waited on you to make payment so extend him the same courtesy.

He waited on you to make payment so extend him the same courtesy.Exactly

Well the CMM was sh*TTY and I demanded a refund through paypal. I don't do business with people like that
Well, it seems they are wanting to continue doing business with you even though you didn't extend them the courtesy of remembering to pay for your item on time. Sorry Solomon, you are completely in the wrong here.

Well, it seems they are wanting to continue doing business with you even though you didn't extend them the courtesy of remembering to pay for your item on time. Sorry Solomon, you are completely in the wrong here.
:yeahthat

Well the CMM was sh*TTY and I demanded a refund through paypal. I don't do business with people like that

And with nothing directly personal to you, I don't really do business with buyers who act as you did. When you buy something, you're expected to render payment as soon as possible. If paying via Paypal/Credit Card, that pretty much means as soon as you're online after winning the auction, if by Check (which I wholeheartedly recommend to everyone you NEVER pay by) or Money Order (Better than Check, but still not great) as soon as the thing gets there.

I wouldn't have even waited as long as the seller in your instance did - and considering you made *him* wait because you "kind of forgot to pay for it", I think waiting because he's out of town is perfectly justifiable.

This sounds like one of those automated responses people use when they go on vacation.





Unless they've changed their rules, Paypal won't do anything until 30 days have passed and even then they won't take any kind of action based on what you've mentioned here. Paypal will only intervene if you don't receive the magazine and it's up to the seller to prove you got it by providing a tracking #.

If you have a confirmed address and the seller can prove it was shipped there then you might as well forget it. If the seller hasn't left you a negative comment then I suggest that you just be patient and let him ship the magazine when he returns. He waited on you to make payment so extend him the same courtesy.


The point I'm trying to make is I DON"T KNOW WHEN THEY ARE RETURNING. So i feel like i was robbed because I have no info on when my item will be mailed

And that is YOUR FAULT. Had you rendered payment ASAP, they would have mailed you the item quickly. But, you decided to forget abt paying them and now you are upset because they went on vacation.
Considering they are on vacation, you are damn lucky you even got a response. So, you deserve to feel the way you do because frankly, anyone else might not even bothered giving you notice they are on vacation.

You better hope they are not traveling Europe. That can take a LONG TIME. :lol:

The point I'm trying to make is I DON"T KNOW WHEN THEY ARE RETURNING. So i feel like i was robbed because I have no info on when my item will be mailed

I understand what you're saying but the seller doesn't owe you a timeline on his return. You should allow him sufficent time to return and ship your magazine. After all as most of us have stated, You are at fault here.

You should also consider the fact that there's probably other buyers who are also waiting for him to return & I just wonder how many of them are as impatient as you. All things considered, I wouldn't blame the guy if he added you to his blocked bidder list.

And that is YOUR FAULT. Had you rendered payment ASAP, they would have mailed you the item quickly. But, you decided to forget abt paying them and now you are upset because they went on vacation.
Considering they are on vacation, you are damn lucky you even got a response. So, you deserve to feel the way you do because frankly, anyone else might not even bothered giving you notice they are on vacation.

You better hope they are not traveling Europe. That can take a LONG TIME. :lol:


It don't matter because i will have my money back by this time next week

I understand what you're saying but the seller doesn't owe you a timeline on his return. You should allow him sufficent time to return and ship your magazine. After all as most of us have stated, You are at fault here.

You should also consider the fact that there's probably other buyers who are also waiting for him to return & I just wonder how many of them are as impatient as you. All things considered, I wouldn't blame the guy if he added you to his blocked bidder list.


well that's why i decided to end of all and just asked for a refund so I can move on

well that's why i decided to end of all and just asked for a refund so I can move on

Are you asking the seller for a refund or are you filing a complaint with Paypal?

Are you asking the seller for a refund or are you filing a complaint with Paypal?


I'm asking for a refund through paypal since I was told-"I DON't KNOW" when asking when my item would be mailed. I don;t accept I don't know when you have recieved my money, i need a time frame

I'm asking for a refund through paypal since I was told-"I DON't KNOW" when asking when my item would be mailed. I don;t accept I don't know when you have recieved my money, i need a time frame

Wait a minute, You can't accept his answer after you took 2 weeks to send payment and only did so after a non-paying bidder alert was filed? It's not his fault that you didn't pay on time and he has stated that he will ship it upon his return. You're extremely lucky that he didn't give you negative feedback and relist the magazine. So far I think the seller has been very patient with you.

Wait a minute, You can't accept his answer after you took 2 weeks to send payment and only did so after a non-paying bidder alert was filed? It's not his fault that you didn't pay on time and he has stated that he will ship it upon his return. You're extremely lucky that he didn't give you negative feedback and relist the magazine. So far I think the seller has been very patient with you.


I just felt the email was very nasty. I didn't like the tone at all and I lost interest in the item

I just felt the email was very nasty. I didn't like the tone at all and I lost interest in the item

Is this the entire E-mail?

"WE ARE OUT OF TOWN AND WILL MAIL YOUR ITEM wHEN WE RETURN.

If it is, Did the seller use all caps or did you do that? Surely you don't consider this nasty.

Is this the entire E-mail?

"WE ARE OUT OF TOWN AND WILL MAIL YOUR ITEM wHEN WE RETURN.

If it is, Did the seller use all caps or did you do that? Surely you don't consider this nasty.


Yes that was the email in all caps and no return date was mentioned which basically saying-"I REALLY DON"T KNOW WHEN I"M GOING TO MAIL YOUR ITEM"

One other thing, Since this is a magazine, I'll bet that the seller will ship media rate unless you paid for priority. If that's the case then you're looking at anywhere from 7-10 dayd before you get it and possibly longer.

One other thing, Since this is a magazine, I'll bet that the seller will ship media rate unless you paid for priority. If that's the case then you're looking at anywhere from 7-10 dayd before you get it and possibly longer.


he won;t have to ship anything because i already requested a refund and don;t want the magazine

You may with that nasty attitude cause the seller to post a negative feedback abt you. Refund or not. I am sure ebay will look into this matter since you asked for a refund. They will want to know the details and as far as they will be concerned, the seller will have ebay in their corner since they did nothing wrong.

You are asking for a refund. Good. But that doesn't mean the seller didn't hold up their end of the bargain. You goofed on this one. You want $$$$ back IMMEDIATELY, but you didn't have the courtesy to pay for the item IMMEDIATELY when it was required. The seller took your flimsy excuse (I forgot) why can't you just be nice abt it and wait? I don't think you want a negative feedback attached to your name do you?

You may with that nasty attitude cause the seller to post a negative feedback abt you. Refund or not. I am sure ebay will look into this matter since you asked for a refund. They will want to know the details and as far as they will be concerned, the seller will have ebay in their corner since they did nothing wrong.

You are asking for a refund. Good. But that doesn't mean the seller didn't hold up their end of the bargain. You goofed on this one. You want $$$$ back IMMEDIATELY, but you didn't have the courtesy to pay for the item IMMEDIATELY when it was required. The seller took your flimsy excuse (I forgot) why can't you just be nice abt it and wait? I don't think you want a negative feedback attached to your name do you?


It doesn't have to be immediately, I just have no interest in doing business with him and want my money back before November.

So s a seller would you have told me when you were returning or just say I will mail it when I return?

If I was on vacation, you would be DAMN LUCKY to have even received a response from me. I wouldn't have bothered. If you didn't pay me on time, then I would not even bother with you.

The point is, you are pissed because these people went on vacation. Had you paid up immediately, you'd have that magazine in your hands right now rather than griping abt seller(s) who owe you nothing for your flimsy excuse. You got a response that in my opinion, is more than you deserve. You know how many fools don't pay for the items they bid on ebay? You think those people are going to wait around for you to pay them when they have lives and a vacation to tend to?

I sell on eBay and if it were me & I were on vacation you probably wouldn't get a reply unless it was an automatic one and it would be something similar to the one you received. Like Irene said, If you had paid on time, you'd have your magazine. I hate to say it but I have never dealt with anyone with the attitude you have especially over something as petty as this.

I sell on eBay and if it were me & I were on vacation you probably wouldn't get a reply unless it was an automatic one and it would be something similar to the one you received. Like Irene said, If you had paid on time, you'd have your magazine. I hate to say it but I have never dealt with anyone with the attitude you have especially over something as petty as this.


Well I guess I will tell someone that who send me a money order for a DVD and when they ask me when can they expect to receive the DVD, I will say I'm not sure yet

Well I guess I will tell someone that who send me a money order for a DVD and when they ask me when can they expect to receive the DVD, I will say I'm not sure yet
Yeah, but I am sure they'd PAY YOU ON TIME AND NOT FORGET LIKE YOU DID. Two wrongs don't make a right. And what fault does some innocent person have for YOUR FORGETFULNESS?

You only have yourself to blame and you won't find anyone who agrees that what you did was right. Not to mention how petty your argument is. Look at this thread, too many posts telling you the same thing. You just don't get it.

Well I guess I will tell someone that who send me a money order for a DVD and when they ask me when can they expect to receive the DVD, I will say I'm not sure yet

Are you wanting to know when the seller plans to ship or when you can expect to receive it? Once the seller ships the item, They have no control over how long it takes to reach you. I've seen more than one seller get an undeserved negative comment because of the postal taking too long to deliver a package.

Are you wanting to know when the seller plans to ship or when you can expect to receive it? Once the seller ships the item, They have no control over how long it takes to reach you. I've seen more than one seller get an undeserved negative comment because of the postal taking too long to deliver a package.
Yeah, then the next thread will be THE DAMN POSTMAN DELIVERED MY PACKAGE TOOOOOO LATE.

Are you wanting to know when the seller plans to ship or when you can expect to receive it? Once the seller ships the item, They have no control over how long it takes to reach you. I've seen more than one seller get an undeserved negative comment because of the postal taking too long to deliver a package.


I wanted to know when it would be shipped so I CAN time the item in the mail.

I wanted to know when it would be shipped so I CAN time the item in the mail.
It will be shipped WHEN THEY RETURN FROM VACATION...whenever that is. They are on vacation for God's sake. They don't owe you an answer when you didn't pay on time. You are lucky they are still waiting to send it to you.

It will be shipped WHEN THEY RETURN FROM VACATION...whenever that is. They are on vacation for God's sake. They don't owe you an answer when you didn't pay on time. You are lucky they are still waiting to send it to you.



I thought a friend would support me in this

I wanted to know when it would be shipped so I CAN time the item in the mail.

Would you mind my asking how much shipping you were charged?

Would you mind my asking how much shipping you were charged?


I think Media Mail

A friend tells you LIKE IT IS. A friend doesn't sugar coat something. A friend will telll you when you are right AND WRONG. You are wrong. And your attitude is your fault for not doing what you should have done. Have you even thought abt those people for once? Did it dawn on you that maybe they left town for a funeral? For a sick family member? Maybe their response (vacation) was just a nice way to let people know they are out of town for personal reasons.

I think Media Mail

Like I said earlier, Media can take several days and you're lucky the holiday season hasn't kicked in yet because you would really be in for a wait.

A friend tells you LIKE IT IS. A friend doesn't sugar coat something. A friend will telll you when you are right AND WRONG. You are wrong. And your attitude is your fault for not doing what you should have done. Have you even thought abt those people for once? Did it dawn on you that maybe they left town for a funeral? For a sick family member? Maybe their response (vacation) was just a nice way to let people know they are out of town for personal reasons.



What about telling it like it is and being supportive at the same time?

What about telling it like it is and being supportive at the same time?
I am supporting you by telling you to just wait til they get back and let them mail the magazine to you. I don't think you should get a refund, because YOU MIGHT GET A NEGATIVE RATING. That is how I am supporting you. Why do you want a negative rating? You made a mistake, don't make it worse by being petty. Resolve this issue. There are worst things in this world to get upset abt. My support is by letting you know how to work this out and be in control without getting upset.

I am supporting you by telling you to just wait til they get back and let them mail the magazine to you. I don't think you should get a refund, because YOU MIGHT GET A NEGATIVE RATING. That is how I am supporting you. Why do you want a negative rating? You made a mistake, don't make it worse by being petty. Resolve this issue. There are worst things in this world to get upset abt. My support is by letting you know how to work this out and be in control without getting upset.



I guess I'm not use to putting out money and not knowing anything about what I paid for. I just dont like this feeling at all and that email didn't make me feel comfortable as a buyer

I guess I'm not use to putting out money and not knowing anything about what I paid for. I just dont like this feeling at all and that email didn't make me feel comfortable as a buyer
That is understandable. The first time I dealt with ebay, I wasn't comfortable with the whole paypal thingy either. I mean, giving my credit card info...:eek: The worst thing that can happen is that you have to wait awhile for the magazine. But ebay is good abt these things. If you want a refund, that is your choice, I just feel you should give these people a chance since they let you "slide" because you forgot. I am sure if you allow these people to mail you the product, you can email them after, thank them for their patience and that you are deeply sorry for making the payment late. You can tell them you had personal problems and it slipped your mind. Things happen Solomon, they will understand.

That is understandable. The first time I dealt with ebay, I wasn't comfortable with the whole paypal thingy either. I mean, giving my credit card info...:eek: The worst thing that can happen is that you have to wait awhile for the magazine. But ebay is good abt these things. If you want a refund, that is your choice, I just feel you should give these people a chance since they let you "slide" because you forgot. I am sure if you allow these people to mail you the product, you can email them after, thank them for their patience and that you are deeply sorry for making the payment late. You can tell them you had personal problems and it slipped your mind. Things happen Solomon, they will understand.

I already sent him a hostile email cursing and saying I don't want the item and I want a refund. I guess it was a uncontrollable reaction to not hearing a return date

I already sent him a hostile email cursing and saying I don't want the item and I want a refund. I guess it was a uncontrollable reaction to not hearing a return date
Oh no...:faint: See, that is what happens when our anger is in control. You let your emotions get in the way of what common sense should tell you do. The sad thing is, you can't delete that email, it is gone, into their hands.

Solomon, How long have you been buying on eBay? If you're new at this then you have alot to learn. I know from experience that attitude plays an important role when dealing with people. I learned years ago that patience and politeness will do more good than having an attitude about things. You need to look at this from the sellers point of view.

Solomon, How long have you been buying on eBay? If you're new at this then you have alot to learn. I know from experience that attitude plays an important role when dealing with people. I learned years ago that patience and politeness will do more good than having an attitude about things. You need to look at this from the sellers point of view.



Been buying off ebay since 2003. And I thought this was the defintion of polite


"Just paid for the item and was wondering when it will be shipped out, thank you very much. My address is below

I think Charles already explained that the response you got may be computer generated.

I think Charles already explained that the response you got may be computer generated.


It was not computer generated which is why I snapped. I know what a computer generated reply looks like

Well, maybe they were upset that you didn't pay them so they responded like you: ANGRY.

I give negative feedback after 7 days if I don't have payment or at least contact from the buyer. Sorry, but I don't feel sorry for you here.

I give negative feedback after 7 days if I don't have payment or at least contact from the buyer. Sorry, but I don't feel sorry for you here.


Try sending the customer a reminder so it won't be 7 days

I already sent him a hostile email cursing and saying I don't want the item and I want a refund. I guess it was a uncontrollable reaction to not hearing a return date
i haven't laughed so hard all week..

i haven't laughed so hard all week..


Go find a boyfriend and maybe your family wouldn't be laughing so hard at your life.

Try sending the customer a reminder so it won't be 7 days
I do, after 3 days, I'll send another reminder, then if I don't hear anything, on the fifth day, I'll send a warning, then I still don't hear anything, I leave negative feedback after the seventh day

I do, after 3 days, I'll send another reminder, then if I don't hear anything, on the fifth day, I'll send a warning, then I still don't hear anything, I leave negative feedback after the seventh day


Well that IDIOTlet two weeks go past and never reminded me which means I shouldn't have sent him sh*T

Go find a boyfriend and maybe your family wouldn't be laughing so hard at your life.
you make a fool of yourself with the inaccurate assumptions in that sentence.
don't take your own mistakes out on other people, especially when they're half your age.

Go find a boyfriend and maybe your family wouldn't be laughing so hard at your life.

Harsh there Solomon.

I, too, have dealt with eBay for a while and I think you were wrong here, too.

Go find a boyfriend and maybe your family wouldn't be laughing so hard at your life.

That's just low. Making that statement was unnecessary.

That's just low. Making that statement was unnecessary.


and her laughing about something I'm pissed off about was unnecessary too.

Well that IDIOTlet two weeks go past and never reminded me which means I shouldn't have sent him sh*T
It is NOT the sellers job to remind you to pay for an item that you decided to purchase. If you are able enough to sign onto ebay and buy something than you should be able enough to remember to pay for it! If you need to be reminded like a five year old child to pay for something you bought.. than you really have no business using ebay.

It is NOT the sellers job to remind you to pay for an item that you decided to purchase. If you are able enough to sign onto ebay and buy something than you should be able enough to remember to pay for it! If you need to be reminded like a five year old child to pay for something you bought.. than you really have no business using ebay.


so it's not a such thing in life as things HAPPENING to make you forget????? Is that what you are telling me?

so it's not a such thing in life as things HAPPENING to make you forget????? Is that what you are telling me?
Sure there is but it's still your fault.. or are you blaming the seller for that? You're trying to make the seller look like the "idiot" or the one to blame and I just don't think that's fair, mature or correct in this situation.

Well that IDIOTlet two weeks go past and never reminded me which means I shouldn't have sent him sh*T
I think that is the same feeling the seller felt when you FORGOT TO PAY HIM/HER. You never sent money, you didn't send sh*t. :lol:


Are you still harping on this? :lol:

I think that is the same feeling the seller felt when you FORGOT TO PAY HIM/HER. You never sent money, you didn't send sh*t. :lol:


Are you still harping on this? :lol:


Yes I want my money-lol

And they wanted THEIR MONEY TOO for that magazine. :lol: See Solomon, it is called KARMA. You forgot to pay them and now you must WAIT.

And they wanted THEIR MONEY TOO for that magazine. :lol: See Solomon, it is called KARMA. You forgot to pay them and now you must WAIT.


Well it's resolved, i thought that they would just refund me but they shipped the magazine today anyway-lol

Well it's resolved, i thought that they would just refund me but they shipped the magazine today anyway-lol
Well, I am glad it worked out for you.

Man, you remind me of my boyfriend. He gets all mad over things he isn't even sure yet if it will work in his favor or not. MEN!:mad: :lol: :lol: j/k