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Madame X 10-04-2007, 02:45 PM In response to Rick's request for photos depicting some early set information:
From Bart Andrews: "Space was a premium and it became clear very quickly that there wasn't enough room on the stage to fit side by side all of the permanent sets that the first several scripts required..."
"We decided to improvise and create the Ricardo bedroom in front of the Mertz living room set. The guys in the paint department of the studio came up with a brilliant solution: they cut out panels of plywood and wallpapered them, and then hung them in front of the other set wall. Then all we had to do was pull out one set of furniture and replace it with another after putting up the panels. You'll notice that the Mertzes' living room has two windows in the same location as Lucy's bedroom. Sometimes we didn't even take down the curtains."
Mertz doors and Mertz side windows.
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Ricardo doors and Ricardo side windows-same curtains. (Look how narrow that hallway was!)
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Panelling.
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They used it again! Littlefield doors and Littlefield side windows.
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Ireneparalegal 10-05-2007, 05:32 PM Glad you posted those pics. Great job.
Let me add, why is it their first bed were twin beds pushed together, yet later on, they are separated? I realize the whole tv industry at that time couldn't cross the line of having two people "lay in bed" as if they were doing it, for heaven's sake...:rofl: But it seems Lucy and Desi had established a way of making it look like one bed, when it really was two. Why did they separate them later?
Also, in the episode, Lucy thinks Ricky wants to murder her, the loveseat and the chair in the living room are never seen again. I guess those were chosen for the pilot and later when the series was established, they found the other couch and chair we would be accustomed to seeing.
NOVARick 10-05-2007, 06:19 PM Glad you posted those pics. Great job.
Let me add, why is it their first bed were twin beds pushed together, yet later on, they are separated? I realize the whole tv industry at that time couldn't cross the line of having two people "lay in bed" as if they were doing it, for heaven's sake...:rofl: But it seems Lucy and Desi had established a way of making it look like one bed, when it really was two. Why did they separate them later?
Also, in the episode, Lucy thinks Ricky wants to murder her, the loveseat and the chair in the living room are never seen again. I guess those were chosen for the pilot and later when the series was established, they found the other couch and chair we would be accustomed to seeing.
According to TVLand last night, when they had the beds pushed together, they were only able to get away with that because they were married in real life. Other TV couples (played by unmarried actors), I guess, had to keep their beds separated. I think when they started separating the beds was around the time Lucy got pregnant.
NOVARick 10-05-2007, 06:22 PM In response to Rick's request for photos depicting some early set information:
From Bart Andrews: "Space was a premium and it became clear very quickly that there wasn't enough room on the stage to fit side by side all of the permanent sets that the first several scripts required..."
"We decided to improvise and create the Ricardo bedroom in front of the Mertz living room set. The guys in the paint department of the studio came up with a brilliant solution: they cut out panels of plywood and wallpapered them, and then hung them in front of the other set wall. Then all we had to do was pull out one set of furniture and replace it with another after putting up the panels. You'll notice that the Mertzes' living room has two windows in the same location as Lucy's bedroom. Sometimes we didn't even take down the curtains."
Mertz doors and Mertz side windows.
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Ricardo doors and Ricardo side windows-same curtains. (Look how narrow that hallway was!)
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Panelling.
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They used it again! Littlefield doors and Littlefield side windows.
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Thanks so much for posting this! It looks like, in addition to putting up those panels, they also must have unhinged and replaced the doors. That door to the right does look identical in both the Mertzes' living room and the Ricardos' bedroom, except it's a different color. I can't imagine they would have painted and repainted the door everytime they changed the use of that set? My guess is those are actually two separate doors as well that they switched back and forth.
NOVARick 10-05-2007, 06:25 PM Thanks so much for posting this! It looks like, in addition to putting up those panels, they also must have unhinged and replaced the doors. That door to the right does look identical in both the Mertzes' living room and the Ricardos' bedroom, except it's a different color. I can't imagine they would have painted and repainted the door everytime they changed the use of that set? My guess is those are actually two separate doors as well that they switched back and forth.
On second thought, even the door frame is a different color. So maybe they did repaint that door and the frame? I suppose it wouldn't have been a huge deal because they didn't seem to use that Mertz living room set all that often in the early episodes.
That's an interesting observation you had about the Littlefield's living room. That didn't even occur to me. And I guess Lucy did her Vitameatavegamin commercial in front of her own kitchen!
Ireneparalegal 10-05-2007, 07:18 PM According to TVLand last night, when they had the beds pushed together, they were only able to get away with that because they were married in real life. Other TV couples (played by unmarried actors), I guess, had to keep their beds separated. I think when they started separating the beds was around the time Lucy got pregnant.
That is what I find so damn funny. I think when after Lucy gives birth do the beds finally part. :lol: Now that the "deed is done" do they say, "Let's separate them." ;)
Note, in that first pic where Lucy is wearing that coat in the kleptomaniac episode, we never see her wear that coat again. One Time Wonder.
Mikado 10-05-2007, 07:28 PM That is what I find so damn funny. I think when after Lucy gives birth do the beds finally part. :lol: Now that the "deed is done" do they say, "Let's separate them." ;)
well, of course Irene, in the 50s , people didnt have sex, once they had decided that they didnt want any more children! :lol:
Ireneparalegal 10-05-2007, 07:30 PM well, of course Irene, in the 50s , people didnt have sex, once they had decided that they didnt want any more children! :lol:
Well, considering how cramped they were going to be in that itty bitty apartment, I don't blame them for not wanting anymore kids. :lol:
Madame X 10-05-2007, 08:10 PM Also, in the episode, Lucy thinks Ricky wants to murder her, the loveseat and the chair in the living room are never seen again. I guess those were chosen for the pilot and later when the series was established, they found the other couch and chair we would be accustomed to seeing.
Looks like the table and chair were the same in the next episode, but the love seat was definitely gone.
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A fun note... When they dance in the "mickey from Ricky" scene, the camera swings too wide and we see the bedroom! :lol:
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NOVARick 10-05-2007, 09:11 PM That is what I find so damn funny. I think when after Lucy gives birth do the beds finally part. :lol: Now that the "deed is done" do they say, "Let's separate them." ;)
Maybe we can think of it as the Ricardos' idea of birth control. :lol:
Ireneparalegal 10-05-2007, 09:12 PM The chair is changed definitely too, but I am not sure which episode. I caught that yesterday when watching ILL on my local station. I seen the murder episode and then they showed three more episodes, and the chair was different. It almost matches the loveseat that you show there in the second pic where Fred is sitting on it.
Let me also ask, remember in the gossip episode, we see the girls talking through that grate next to the fireplace? Is that the only time we see the grate? Seeing your pic there with camera swinging too much to the left, it reminded me of that.
NOVARick 10-05-2007, 09:15 PM Looks like the table and chair were the same in the next episode, but the love seat was definitely gone.
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A fun note... When they dance in the "mickey from Ricky" scene, the camera swings too wide and we see the bedroom! :lol:
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Have you ever watched closely when they switch the drinks back and forth, Ricky actually winds up with the glass with the mickey in it? Not that it matters because Lucy knocked it to the floor before he could drink it, and Lucy, even if she had the right glass, never took more than a small sip. But it still appears to be a slip-up.
Ireneparalegal 10-05-2007, 09:28 PM Also, in this episode, we see Lucy in with her hair DOWN rather than up as we are accustomed to seeing her later on.
She also wears her hair down at the end of the episode where the girls go into business having bought Hansen's store. As she and Ethel wait for the boys to come home so they could show them the $500 they made.
It is also down in the NO CHILDREN ALLOWED episode. I always preferred her hair up rather than down, only because her hair was so short. The one time she had it down and it looked beautiful was the time she was behaving like Tallulah Bankhead. Her hair was smoothed down obviously to give it that longer look.
Madame X 10-06-2007, 12:04 AM Let me also ask, remember in the gossip episode, we see the girls talking through that grate next to the fireplace? Is that the only time we see the grate? Seeing your pic there with camera swinging too much to the left, it reminded me of that.
Yeah, I caught that too. Yet another one-time-wonder! In "The Freezer," Ethel did mention that they could hear the boys through the furnace, but no grate was ever shown upstairs.
Ireneparalegal 10-06-2007, 12:19 AM Have you ever watched closely when they switch the drinks back and forth, Ricky actually winds up with the glass with the mickey in it? Not that it matters because Lucy knocked it to the floor before he could drink it, and Lucy, even if she had the right glass, never took more than a small sip. But it still appears to be a slip-up.
How did I miss that? I got to see that episode again.
NOVARick 10-06-2007, 12:48 AM A fun note... When they dance in the "mickey from Ricky" scene, the camera swings too wide and we see the bedroom! :lol:
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This is not too surprising given the way they filmed the first few episodes. At that point, they were trying to figure out how to film a sitcom in front of a studio audience. In the beginning, they felt they had to do it just like a play, which meant no retakes, no stopping for costume changes. So if they messed up at all (which they obviously did with this camera going back too far), so be it. Fortunately, after a few episodes, they discovered the studio audience would be patient enough to allow time to do major costume changes or set changes, or fix a really big goof (which was rare on this show, which was so well rehearsed). If they did continue doing the shows as they did at the outset, the wonderful episodes later on that did require major costume changes or set changes would not have been possible.
Madame X 10-06-2007, 01:04 AM Have you ever watched closely when they switch the drinks back and forth, Ricky actually winds up with the glass with the mickey in it? Not that it matters because Lucy knocked it to the floor before he could drink it, and Lucy, even if she had the right glass, never took more than a small sip. But it still appears to be a slip-up.
Yes, I noticed that. The tainted glass was on the kitchen side, Lucy switched it to the fireplace side, then Ricky switched it back to the kitchen side. Lucy drank out of the one on the fireplace side and knocked the other one out of Ricky's hand. No one drank the one with the mickey. :crazy:
NOVARick 10-06-2007, 01:13 AM Yes, I noticed that. The tainted glass was on the kitchen side, Lucy switched it to the fireplace side, then Ricky switched it back to the kitchen side. Lucy drank out of the one on the fireplace side and knocked the other one out of Ricky's hand. No one drank the one with the mickey. :crazy:
Exactly!
Ireneparalegal 10-06-2007, 03:49 PM Yes, I noticed that. The tainted glass was on the kitchen side, Lucy switched it to the fireplace side, then Ricky switched it back to the kitchen side. Lucy drank out of the one on the fireplace side and knocked the other one out of Ricky's hand. No one drank the one with the mickey. :crazy:
Thank you for that visual. I can see it in my head without having to pop in the DVD. :wave:
Lodee 10-06-2007, 07:59 PM Also, in this episode, we see Lucy in with her hair DOWN rather than up as we are accustomed to seeing her later on.
She also wears her hair down at the end of the episode where the girls go into business having bought Hansen's store. As she and Ethel wait for the boys to come home so they could show them the $500 they made.
It is also down in the NO CHILDREN ALLOWED episode. I always preferred her hair up rather than down, only because her hair was so short. The one time she had it down and it looked beautiful was the time she was behaving like Tallulah Bankhead. Her hair was smoothed down obviously to give it that longer look.
I like her hair down in No Children Allowed, but I don't like it down at the end of the one where they buy the store. For some reason it reminds me of Princess Leia from Star Wars.
NOVARick 10-06-2007, 10:09 PM I like her hair down in No Children Allowed, but I don't like it down at the end of the one where they buy the store. For some reason it reminds me of Princess Leia from Star Wars.
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Ireneparalegal 10-07-2007, 10:00 PM I like her hair down in No Children Allowed, but I don't like it down at the end of the one where they buy the store. For some reason it reminds me of Princess Leia from Star Wars.
OMG...:rofl: Now that you stated that, that is what I will remember when I see her in that scene. :lol:
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