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kadrmas15 09-25-2007, 10:31 PM I was watching the Missing Persons cases profiled on volume 9 and out of the 7 or 8 cases they profiled in that one segment, I recognized the case of the two hunters who disappeared while on a hunting trip in Mio, Michigan in 1985.
That case was just on cold case files today, apperantly the two hunters had got into an alercation with two brothers over a deer. Later they ran into each other at a bar and they ended up getting into a fight with the two brothers and other men outside, the two hunters were beaten to death by the brothers, the brothers then took the hunter's bodies back to their property, ran their bodies through a shredder and then fed the remains to their pigs.
These brothers, the Duvall brothers were known as local bullies and locals had known what happened to those hunters for years but were afraid and remained silent for a long time. The Duvall brothers made little effort to hide they had killed those hunters and apperantly bragged every chance they got about how they had murdered the two hunters and used that story to intimidate those that got in their way.
Finally in 2003 the brothers were arrested, even though the hunters were never found, brothers Donald aka Coco and Raymond Duvall Jr aka JR were both convicted and were sentenced to life in prison without parole.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else had any updates or knew anything about the other missing persons cases that were profiled and if there were any updates?
crystaldawn 09-26-2007, 10:44 AM Yes Kadrmas that whole story behind David Tyll and Brian Ognjan's disappearance is horrifying. There is a book about their murder:
http://www.amazon.com/Darker-than-Night-Homicide-18-Year/dp/0312936761
At one time I did look up those people profiled on that short segment. I"ll do that again and see what I can find out.
crystaldawn 09-26-2007, 11:19 AM Okay here is some more info on the cases profiled:
Julie Weflen - she is still missing. Apparently her case was covered in a book by Ann Rule titled "Kiss Me, Kill Me". Here's an article from just a few days ago:
http://www.krem.com/news/local/stories/krem2_091707_weflen.e99159ac.html
Stefanie Stroh - Apparently she was heir to the Stroh's beer fortune. She is still missing. Convicted murdered Tommy Lynn Sells has apparently confessed to her murder but he's confessed to a ton of them.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stroh_stefanie.html
Kyle Clinkscales - Still missing but apparently there have been a few arrests in his case:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/220251/body_of_lagrange_georgia_resident_still.html
Diana Braungardt - Still missing.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/braungardt_diana.html
David Thies - Still missing.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/thies_david.html
Susan Cappel - Still missing.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cappel_susan.html
I couldn't find anything online about Carlos Alvares, John Simmons or Lily Mae Huff. I did research these cases a year or so ago and back then found an article that stated Lily Mae Huff was never found.
kadrmas15 09-26-2007, 01:43 PM Hey Crystaldawn, thanks for that info, also thanks for the info on that book, I will probably purchase it. Yes, the murder of those hunters is one of the most gruesome I have ever heard of. There were seveal witnesses to that crime but they never came forward because they were scared to death of those Duvall brothers. One of the witnesses said the two hunters were beat to death with baseball bats and that the Duvall brothers made one of the hunters watch as they beat to death the other one including "squashing his head like a pumpkin" in the words of a witness.
Even though this wasnt a part of the missing persons segment on Volume 9, I have an update on another case that was profiled on Volume 9. Mark Adams who was serving 25 years to life for first degree murder when he escaped from San Quentin in 1986, was re-captured after seven years on the run in 1993 in Puerto Rico after being profiled on America's Most Wanted.
Apperantly Adams had been living with his wife who was a civilian who worked at the prison in the computer teaching program that Adams was involved in as an inmate there. Adams had first lived with his wife in the San Francisco suburbs before they moved to Puerto Rico. Adams was returned to San Quentin where he was killed in 1994, apperantly he was in a fight on the yard with another inmate and a guard fired a shot to break up the fight and the shot hit Adams in the back of the head killing him.
Adams wife and mother sued the California Department of Corrections for excessive force causing wrongful death, a civil jury agreed in 1998 awarding the family of Mark Adams nearly 3 million dollar in damages.
Hey Crystaldawn, thanks for that info, also thanks for the info on that book, I will probably purchase it. Yes, the murder of those hunters is one of the most gruesome I have ever heard of. There were seveal witnesses to that crime but they never came forward because they were scared to death of those Duvall brothers. One of the witnesses said the two hunters were beat to death with baseball bats and that the Duvall brothers made one of the hunters watch as they beat to death the other one including "squashing his head like a pumpkin" in the words of a witness.
Even though this wasnt a part of the missing persons segment on Volume 9, I have an update on another case that was profiled on Volume 9. Mark Adams who was serving 25 years to life for first degree murder when he escaped from San Quentin in 1986, was re-captured after seven years on the run in 1993 in Puerto Rico after being profiled on America's Most Wanted.
Apperantly Adams had been living with his wife who was a civilian who worked at the prison in the computer teaching program that Adams was involved in as an inmate there. Adams had first lived with his wife in the San Francisco suburbs before they moved to Puerto Rico. Adams was returned to San Quentin where he was killed in 1994, apperantly he was in a fight on the yard with another inmate and a guard fired a shot to break up the fight and the shot hit Adams in the back of the head killing him.
Adams wife and mother sued the California Department of Corrections for excessive force causing wrongful death, a civil jury agreed in 1998 awarding the family of Mark Adams nearly 3 million dollar in damages.
How horrible--this one doesn't even ring a bell to me!!
crystaldawn 09-26-2007, 01:55 PM How horrible--this one doesn't even ring a bell to me!!
I don't know if it ever aired on Lifetime but it was a Special Alert where RS quickly profiled 10 missing persons cases with hopes of viewers phoning in leads. It sounds like most, if not all of them, are still missing though. :(
kadrmas15 09-26-2007, 02:55 PM In an update to a case shown on volume 10 in the diabolical minds episode. In the murders of the Rogers women in Tampa, Florida in 1989, that case was eventually solved. Oba Chandler was convicted of the Roger's women's murder in 1994 and was sentenced to death.
Chandler was charged with the three murders in 1992 shortly after he was arrested for an un-related Armed Robbery, Chandler pled guilty to that Armed Robbery and received a 15 year prison sentence plus a concurrent 10 year sentence for being a felon in possession of a fire arm but he has never admitted guilt in the deaths of the three women.
Prior to the women's murder the only serious run in he had with the law was a 1976 armed robbery which he pled guilty to and was sentenced to 10 years in prison but was paroled after serving a year and a half due to Florida's parole laws at the time, he returned to prison for 6 months in 1984 because of a parole violation but was re-released quickly. I believe he is thought to have murdered and raped more than just those 3 women.
kadrmas15 09-26-2007, 04:46 PM Another update is Jim Burnside, Burnside is still alive and is now 70 years old. Burnside is serving two concurrent life sentences for murder and attempted murder. He will be eligible for parole when he is 80 years old.
justins5256 09-27-2007, 04:09 PM I found some articles on Newsbank about John Simmons. His body was found in 1993. His disappearance and death were thought to be drug related. It seems like he grew up in one of the meaner areas of Philly and became a victim of a drug gang.
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FOR MOM, LOSS BECAME A CAUSE BODY OF SON, 15, DISCOVERED IN PARK, AFTER 5-YEAR ORDEAL
Philadelphia Daily News (PA)
April 7, 1993
Edition: PM
Edward Moran, Daily News Staff Writer
Staff writer Joe O'Dowd contributed to this report.
Section: LOCAL
Page: 03
Record Number: 9301090141
Jacqui Simmons knew the five-year search for her teen-age son had ended when keys found by police among some bones unlocked her parents' front door.
The keys had been in the pocket of a pair of jeans found near skeletal remains discovered by two boys rolling a tire down a hill in Fairmount Park on Sunday. The remains were identified yesterday as John Benjamin Simmons, who was 15 when he disappeared.
"When the keys fit the door to my parents' home," Jacqui Simmons said yesterday, "I knew."
Police said they identified the body through dental records. Simmons had apparently been shot in the head and left on the hill, just off Georges Hill Drive, police said.
For Jacqui Simmons, the past five years have been a bitter experience - from trying to get the police and the media to treat her son as more than a runaway to starting a support group for the parents of other missing children.
Simmons last saw her son the morning of Sept. 14, 1988, when he left for George Washington Carver School of Engineering and Science, where he had just began the 10th grade.
John Simmons was a thoughtful, bright child, she said. He never went anywhere without leaving a note on the refrigerator or a message on the answering machine.
"When I came home that day I knew something was wrong," Simmons said. ''There was no note, no message and when I went to the school yard, he was not there playing ball. He just wasn't in the area."
Simmons said she knew her son was in trouble and turned first to the police.
She told them there was no reason for John to run away. He was a good student. He was studying Chinese with the hope of taking a school trip there.
He had never been in trouble with the police, didn't skip school and stayed away from the drugs and dealers that plagued her West Philadelphia neighborhood.
They could not investigate, she was told. John Simmons was considered a runaway.
Next she turned to the media.
"I called the Daily News, they were not cooperative at all. John wasn't news then," she said. When she contacted the newspaper she said she was told that because police considered John a runaway, there would be no story.
She asked if the paper would print a picture, with information about her son. "They told me that they couldn't put pictures of all of the missing children in the paper because it was too many.
"I was referred to the classified section and told I could pay $110
dollars to run an ad," she said.
Simmons said she was shocked and hurt by the response.
"I was very disappointed. As a parent of a missing child regardless of how old he is, I just felt the media should have been more sympathetic to me."
Finally after several months and some attention by then-City Councilman Lucien Blackwell, police responded.
Eventually officers started investigating, she said. A year after he disappeared, John was listed as a missing person.
According to police records in 1988, 4,509 juveniles were reported missing. Only 18, including Simmons, had not been located by the end of the year.
Simmons said neither she nor police know who might have shot John.
Around the time John disappeared, neighborhood youths told Simmons he might have been abducted by drug dealers trying to recruit teens to deal for them.
Some friends of John's told her they saw him get into a car at 49th Street near Locust, the corner near his home.
In the years since he vanished, Simmons has distributed thousands of fliers with John's picture, gathered donations for a $2,000 reward, and started the support group, which she runs out of her home with the mother of another missing teen-age boy.
Simmons' support group, Parents and Friends of Missing Children, is funded out of Simmons' pocket and offers support and advice to distraught parents. She said she has dealt with at least 20 families.
She tells parents to fingerprint their children, and to keep a lock of their hair and a current photograph in case they are needed to aid an investigation.
Simmons said she will continue her work now that her son has been found, but said the discovery of his body has brought her no comfort.
"The difference is, I think, is he was out in the park all of that time," she said. "I just never expected to find him like this."
Copyright (c) 1993 Philadelphia Daily News
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Disappearing into netherworld
Number of missing kids grows as illegal drug trade expands
Houston Chronicle
AUGUST 6, 1989
Edition: 2 STAR
ROY H. CAMPBELL
Section: A
Page: 13
Record Number: 08*06*641617
PHILADELPHIA - A white banner with two red hearts hangs on the porch of a house on Locust Street.
It reads: ``We Love You, John. Hang in There.''
The banner has been in place since September, hung shortly after John Simmons, then 15, disappeared from his west Philadelphia home.
Neighborhood youths told his mother, Jacqui Simmons, that they saw a jet-black Cadillac with tinted windows speed off with John the afternoon that he vanished. Others reported seeing the teen-ager riding through the area in a car from which drug dealers hawked cocaine as if they were selling fresh vegetables from a truck.
Since those early tips, there have been no other reported sightings of John. Meanwhile, Simmons, who fears her son was abducted by drug dealers, has called attention to a problem that she says has received little attention from those concerned about a flourishing drug epidemic: young people who disappear, voluntarily or by force, into the drug netherworld.
There are no hard statistics on these lost teen-agers, but police and national authorities on missing children say their numbers appear to be growing along with the drug trade.
``Only in the last year or so have we been informed of what could be a nationwide phenomenon,'' said John Rayban, vice president of the Washington-based National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Rayban said reports have come in from all across the country about youths who were reported missing, only to be found somewhere later dealing drugs.
Some youths are held by force in drug houses or taken to other states to sell crack under armed guard. Some wind up in jail on drug charges. Many work in the drug business temporarily, then return home after a few months. A few end up dead.
``What we are getting is drug-related abductions, what used to be the old gangland mob stuff where someone, usually a teen-ager, is snatched, then found in a river,'' Rayban said.
Some youths have said they were forced into the drug business or were not allowed to leave after entering voluntarily.
For example, two young runaways from Brooklyn, N.Y., were convicted of first-degree murder last year for the September 1987 slaying of a drug dealer who they said held them captive in a south Philadelphia drug house for four days with no food or water and forced them to sell crack.
The youths, who were 15 when the slaying occurred, both had been reported missing by their families.
Then there was the March 1988 case of the Williams brothers, Anthony, 13, and Cornell, 15, of south Philadelphia, whose mother reported them missing two days after they disappeared from their neighborhood.
Both were slain execution-style after peddling crack and coming up short on their drug money to the dealers. Three young men, members of a drug gang, were arrested and are awaiting trial in the case.
Often, police say, teen runaways are lured into the drug trade as a means of supporting themselves.
``There is the criminal element out there looking for new kids to use them as drug dealers,'' said Officer Joseph Williams, who handles missing-persons cases for the Philadelphia Police Department's Juvenile Aid Division.
Williams said young male runaways may be preyed upon by drug dealers just as young girls are lured to prostitution by pimps. ``The kids have to survive some way. They need some income,'' he said.
Often that way is to become drug peddlers, couriers, lookouts or workers in a crack house, many of which are operated by Jamaican gang members who have a reputation for violence.
However they disappear, it is parents who are left behind to agonize and to search for their sons.
Some spend thousands of dollars in advertisements, post fliers and rewards, contact national missing-children agencies. Others search the streets looking for their children.
John Simmons was returning from his first day of classes at George Washington Carver School of Engineering and Science, where he had entered the 10th grade.
When Simmons came home from her job as an apartment manager, she found her son had laid out track suit for the next day of classes, but there was no sign of him.
He did not come home that night, and the next day she contacted police and scoured the neighborhood searching for him. It was then that some friends of John's told her that they saw him the previous afternoon at 49th and Locust streets getting into a black Cadillac.
Officer Williams said police found no motive for the teen-ager to run away and there seemed to be ``no reason for John to leave home.''
Nonetheless, John is classified as a runaway, said Capt. James McHugh of the Juvenile Aid Division.
``At this point we carry him as a runaway and his mother is not happy with it,'' said McHugh.
McHugh said investigators have been unable to establish that John was taken away by force and those who may have given Simmons tips have not shared that information with police.
He said that the John Simmons case has been entered into a national missing-person commuter system, and Jacqui Simmons has seen to it that other agencies know of the case. Simmons says she realizes her son may be dead, but in her heart she believes he is alive, trapped somewhere and unable to get out.
Copyright 1989 Houston Chronicle
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A MISSING TEEN, FEARS OF A DRUG GANG
Philadelphia Inquirer, The (PA)
July 23, 1989
Edition: FINAL
Roy H. Campbell, Inquirer Staff Writer
Section: LOCAL
Page: B01
Record Number: 8902160340
A white banner with two red hearts hangs on the porch of a house in the 4900 block of Locust Street.
It reads: "We Love You, John. Hang in There."
The banner has been in place since last September, hung shortly after John Simmons, then 15, disappeared from his West Philadelphia home.
Neighborhood youths told his mother, Jacqui Simmons, that they saw a jet- black Cadillac with tinted windows speed off with John the afternoon that he vanished. Others reported seeing the teenager riding through the area in a car from which drug dealers hawked cocaine as if they were selling fresh vegetables from a truck.
Since those early tips, there have been no other reported sightings of John. Meanwhile, Simmons, who fears her son was abducted by drug dealers, has called attention to a problem that she says has received little attention from those concerned about a flourishing drug epidemic: young people who disappear, voluntarily or by force, into the drug netherworld.
There are no hard statistics on these lost teenagers, but police and national authorities on missing children say their numbers appear to be growing along with the drug trade.
"Only in the last year or so have we been informed of what could be a nationwide phenomenon," said John Rayban, vice president of the Washington- based National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Rayban said reports have come in from all across the country about youths who were reported missing, only to be found somewhere later dealing drugs.
Some youths are held by force in drug houses or taken to other states to sell crack under armed guard. Some wind up in jail on drug charges. Many work in the drug business temporarily, then return home after a few months. A few end up dead.
"What we are getting is drug-related abductions, what used to be the old gangland mob stuff where someone, usually a teenager, is snatched, then found in a river," Rayban said.
Some youths have said they were forced into the drug business or were not allowed to leave after entering voluntarily.
For example, two young runaways from Brooklyn, N.Y., were convicted of first-degree murder last year for the September 1987 slaying of a drug dealer who they said held them captive in a South Philadelphia drug house for four days with no food or water and forced them to sell crack.
The youths, who were 15 when the slaying occurred, had both been reported missing by their families.
Then there was the March 1988 case of the Williams brothers, Anthony, 13, and Cornell, 15, of South Philadelphia, whose mother reported them missing two days after they disappeared from their neighborhood.
Both were slain execution-style, allegedly by drug dealers, after peddling crack and coming up short on their drug money to the dealers. Three young men, members of a drug gang, were arrested and are awaiting trial in the case.
Often, police say, teen runaways are lured into the drug trade as a means of supporting themselves on the street.
"There is the criminal element out there looking for new kids to use them as drug dealers," said Officer Joseph Williams, who handles missing-persons cases for the Philadelphia Police Department's Juvenile Aid Division.
Williams said young male runaways may be preyed upon by drug dealers just as young girls are lured to prostitution by pimps. "The kids have to survive some way. They need some income," he said.
Often that way is to become drug peddlers, couriers, lookouts or workers in a crack house, many of which are operated by Jamaican posse members who have a reputation for violence.
However they disappear, it is parents, mothers like Simmons, who are left behind to agonize and to search for their sons.
Some spend thousands of dollars in newspaper advertisements, post fliers and rewards, contact national missing-children agencies. Others search the streets looking for their sons.
One Philadelphia mother went from morgue to morgue in nearby states to view the bodies of unidentified young, black murder victims fitting her son's description.
In nine months Simmons has distributed 10,000 fliers with her son's likeness and gathered donations of $2,000 for a reward. She has listed her information on John's disappearance with several state and national agencies that specialize in helping to locate missing children.
"I don't know what happened, but in my heart I feel he was taken away and is being forced into a situation that he does not want to be in," Simmons said.
John was a thoughtful child, according to his mother, the kind that always left her notes telling her of his whereabouts.
He did not have many friends, she said, and he was doing well in school. One wall of Simmons' house is covered with merit certificates and scholastic achievement awards he received.
To his mother's knowledge and according to neighborhood youths she has questioned, John was not involved with drugs before his disappearance.
"John had no history of any involvement in drugs or in the crack houses around here," Simmons said. "I'm not saying that he is the best kid out there, but I know he was not involved in drugs."
Despite this, Simmons says he may have been abducted by drug dealers, who neighborhood youths say used to drive around in a black Cadillac trying to recruit teenagers to sell drugs.
She said she was told that many of the youths feared the men who drove that car. And, she says, the friends of John's who saw him get in the car told her they were afraid to talk to police because others had been threatened by the
drug dealers.
"They are scared," she said. "They know John is in trouble and they are afraid that the same thing could happen to them."
John disappeared Sept. 14 after returning home from his first day of classes at George Washington Carver School of Engineering and Science, where he had just entered the 10th grade.
When Simmons came home from her job as an apartment manager, she found her son had laid out a red and black track suit for the next day of classes, but there was no sign of him.
He did not return home that night, and the next day she contacted police and scoured the neighborhood searching for him. It was then that some friends of John's told her that they saw him the previous afternoon at 49th and Locust Streets getting into a black Cadillac.
"My first thought was that someone snatched him," she said.
Officer Williams said police found no motive for the teenager to run away and there seemed to be "no reason for John to leave home."
Nonetheless, John is classified as a runaway, said Capt. James McHugh of the Juvenile Aid Division.
"At this point we carry him as a runaway and his mother is not happy with it," said McHugh. "But we have no reason to suspect he's been abducted or to
suspect foul play."
McHugh said investigators have been unable to establish that John was taken away by force and those who may have given Simmons tips have not shared that information with police.
There were 4,509 missing juveniles reported in 1988, of which 328 were 10 years old or younger. Only 18, including Simmons, had not been located by the end of the year, McHugh said.
"When the older ones are found a lot of times they won't tell us where they were and even when parents suspect they were involved with drugs they won't volunteer that information," McHugh said.
He said that the John Simmons case has been entered into a national missing-person computer system, and Jacqui Simmons has seen to it that other agencies know of the case.
"The mother has been very aggressive in her work and that's excellent," he said.
Simmons said she has no choice but to be aggressive. She said parents of older missing children face particular hurdles in finding their missing offspring because most of them are classified as runaways. And authorities may have difficulty distinguishing traditional runaways from those who may have been coerced or enticed into drug peddling.
"I knew I had to do it myself, I had to try to find my son," Simmons said.
In the process she has become an advocate for missing children, even starting a support group for families called Parents and Friends of Missing Children.
"I've been through it. I had no one to tell me what to do, no one to turn to. I am ready to listen and to help them get through it," she said.
She says she realizes her son may be dead, but in her heart she believes he is alive, trapped somewhere and unable to get out.
"When I go out in the streets and I see all the drugs, all the people that are strung out, I get really frightened for John."
Copyright (c) 1989 The Philadelphia Inquirer
mikem7715 09-27-2007, 04:33 PM I dont remember how Philly was back when he was killed,but the streets there are TERRIBLE now! Murders galore, at least one a day on average.Gangs,drugs,etc.Just terrible. I live in the Delaware Valley of NJ and every night on the news,the first story is another murder.And I dont really care if its one gang member or drug dealer killing another one,but when innocent people are caught in the crossfire,thats bad-Especially children.
justins5256 09-28-2007, 11:52 AM I don't know if it ever aired on Lifetime but it was a Special Alert where RS quickly profiled 10 missing persons cases with hopes of viewers phoning in leads. It sounds like most, if not all of them, are still missing though. :(
Lifetime's version of 10/25/89 is another Frankenstein creation - borrowing the Ralph Probst segment from the 8/22/90 episode and putting it in place of Bonnie Wilder and this brief segment on missing persons.
I don't think UM ever profiled the disappearances of David Tyll and Brian Ognjan in a separate segment, however. I remember seeing the "special alert" and thinking it sounded like an interesting case just from the very brief description RS gave and I made a point to google their names after seeing it.
kadrmas15 10-01-2007, 03:32 AM Their case is indeed interesting, but very gruesome. Easily one of the sickest cases I have ever heard about, in terms of how people were killed. Not only were they beaten to death, but then the Duvall brothers put their body through a shredder and then fed the remains to their pigs.
Apperantly the two hunters are still officially considered missing because their bodies were never found and the Duvall brothers never admitted wrong doing, even though both were convicted of two counts of first degree murder in 2003 and sentenced to life in prison without parole.
It is actually thought more than just those two participated as a witness said she saw 6 or 7 men standing around in a circle watching and participating in this beating and murder, yet none of the other men have been arrested, although the cops are looking into charging a third man. This however has not happened to date.
justins5256 01-24-2008, 03:44 PM I couldn't find anything online about Carlos Alvares,
I found an article on Newsbank from 1993 indicating that Alvarez was still missing at that time, but I was unable to find anything after that date. I find it strange that he is not listed on the usual missing persons websites. I even went so far as to check the Center for Missing and Exploited Children website to no avail. The article I found mentioned the case only in brief and said that Alvarez was abducted from his parent's front yard by two unidentified males. I assume the two individuals mentioned on UM must have been cleared (one was Alvarez's Uncle, IIRC) since they were not mentioned in the article.
Okay here is some more info on the cases profiled:
Julie Weflen - she is still missing. Apparently her case was covered in a book by Ann Rule titled "Kiss Me, Kill Me". Here's an article from just a few days ago:
http://www.krem.com/news/local/stories/krem2_091707_weflen.e99159ac.html
Stefanie Stroh - Apparently she was heir to the Stroh's beer fortune. She is still missing. Convicted murdered Tommy Lynn Sells has apparently confessed to her murder but he's confessed to a ton of them.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stroh_stefanie.html
Kyle Clinkscales - Still missing but apparently there have been a few arrests in his case:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/220251/body_of_lagrange_georgia_resident_still.html
Diana Braungardt - Still missing.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/braungardt_diana.html
David Thies - Still missing.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/thies_david.html
Susan Cappel - Still missing.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cappel_susan.html
I couldn't find anything online about Carlos Alvares, John Simmons or Lily Mae Huff. I did research these cases a year or so ago and back then found an article that stated Lily Mae Huff was never found.
Thanks for all that CD, I was preparing to do some look ups myself, but you saved me a bit of time :) BTW, who is the freaky comatose man in your profile pic? Is he alive or dead?! :eek:
crystaldawn 12-10-2009, 05:57 PM Thanks for all that CD, I was preparing to do some look ups myself, but you saved me a bit of time :) BTW, who is the freaky comatose man in your profile pic? Is he alive or dead?! :eek:
No problem, I was really curious what happened to them as well and was happy to find some info on most of them online.
Lol, well he's alive in the picture but he died very soon after it was taken. He was that professional hospital patient that went by a few soap opera names like "Tom Hughes". They were trying to find out his identity and did. Interesting on the original broadcast they mentioned the theory that he had an addiction to pain pills (which I think is very likely) but Dennis Farina now says they think he may have Munchhausen Syndrome which is less likely in my opinion.
No problem, I was really curious what happened to them as well and was happy to find some info on most of them online.
Lol, well he's alive in the picture but he died very soon after it was taken. He was that professional hospital patient that went by a few soap opera names like "Tom Hughes". They were trying to find out his identity and did. Interesting on the original broadcast they mentioned the theory that he had an addiction to pain pills (which I think is very likely) but Dennis Farina now says they think he may have Munchhausen Syndrome which is less likely in my opinion.
I do vaguely remember that one now. Thanks!
wiseguy182 11-22-2010, 03:15 AM Lily Mae Huff is still missing
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/huff_lily.html
thinwhiteduke74 09-14-2014, 10:30 AM An article written several years ago explaining who was arrested in the Clinkscales case and the charges:
http://www.wtvm.com/story/3527755/authorities-make-second-arrest-in-clinkscales-case
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