Apparently the honeymoon is over (was there ever a honeymoon?). They are appearing tomorrow on Dr. Phil to discuss the problems they are having. Well, if anyone watched them on Surreal Life and their follow-up show My Fair Brady, it was obvious this relationship was doomed from the start. Chris has his issues, alcohol being one of them. Adrian decided to look past that problem and felt like love would prevail. When we saw them in the process of planning their wedding and days before they got married, they were fighting and yelling at each other. It seemed very obvious these two needed counseling BEFORE THEY GOT MARRIED. :crazy:

I'd much rather see a follow-up show with fellow Brady Maureen McCormick. When did her episode air - May? We never found out what happened with her dad and brother - or at least I didn't.

As for the Knights, I can't be the only one who saw this coming!

To me, Adrian had the bigger problem. She pretty much forced herself on him from the start. She seems very needy.

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To me, Adrian had the bigger problem. She pretty much forced herself on him from the start. She seems very needy.
I agree. Yes, she was in love and that is usually how one can be easily blinded to the other person's faults and/or issues. She really believes that how Chris is, is somehow her fault. She is seen telling Dr. Phil in the promos, words to the effect of "Did I cause this?" C'mon Adrian, Chris was already that way, you didn't change him, you are just now seeing how he really is when the rest of us seen how it was from afar.

I agree. Yes, she was in love and that is usually how one can be easily blinded to the other person's faults and/or issues. She really believes that how Chris is, is somehow her fault. She is seen telling Dr. Phil in the promos, words to the effect of "Did I cause this?" C'mon Adrian, Chris was already that way, you didn't change him, you are just now seeing how he really is when the rest of us seen how it was from afar.

I agree 100%! I think that Adrienne was in love with being in love. Why she felt she needed to be with Chris is beyond me. I felt like their relationship was doomed from Day 1 (when they started dating). Not to mention the fact that Adrienne is too young for Chris and Chris is practically old enough to be her father anyway.

Just my thoughts.

Whatever problems the Knights have, they are nowhere NEAR as creepy as the "couple" who followed them. That was the 38-year-old woman (who looked 48!) woman living with an 18-year-old boy, one of her sons' friends. puke: The son was so disgusted, he moved out (and I don't blame him one bit!!).

Anyway, I hope that Chris & Adrienne will beat the odds and work things out. He's already been through two divorces and is almost 25 years older than his current wife. But, as long as there's a will there's a way (as my grandma used to say). I wish them both the best.

I agree that as the relationship appeared on TV and interviews there would be no way that it would last. Adrianne insisted on having her way all the time; I was surprised Chris gave in to that. On the other hand, since they have been going to counseling 2x a week for quite awhile, there is hope--that is if the counseling is good and they are heeding the advice. I didn't see the Dr. Phil show.

I've wondered too how Maureen is doing with her family. Somewhere I heard Barry say that things were looking up for her, but he didn't specify. Oh, I think it may have been on the Q&A part of his web site that he said that.

I just went to Dr. Phil's site and read some of the synopsis of the show. (I will eventually read it all when my ancient computer can get through.) I must say I was pretty disappointed in them. Maybe I expect too much too fast, but I would have thought they had made more progress than that. Does Adrianne ever admit to doing wrong? I suppose she may not say degrading things to Chris now, but in the past she has said that he doesn't have ADHD; he's just a butthead. When he had doubts about their relationship she said "Well, f-- your brain." Not exactly constructive fighting in my opinion. I am concerned for them.

my CBS Station had a Weather Alert at 3:00 pm so I did not get to see it Yesterday being Friday, September 21, 2007

I just went to Dr. Phil's site and read some of the synopsis of the show. (I will eventually read it all when my ancient computer can get through.) I must say I was pretty disappointed in them. Maybe I expect too much too fast, but I would have thought they had made more progress than that. Does Adrianne ever admit to doing wrong? I suppose she may not say degrading things to Chris now, but in the past she has said that he doesn't have ADHD; he's just a butthead. When he had doubts about their relationship she said "Well, f-- your brain." Not exactly constructive fighting in my opinion. I am concerned for them.
You mentioned constructive fighting. Well, that was the whole point of their problems. Dr. Phil said once they start name-calling, put-downs, character assassinations of each other, that is when their arguments turn into something that is pointless and will lead them to divorce. It was great advice to tell these two that when they have an issue or disagreement, to not put each other down. The point of the arguments they have is to have a resolution, but they never do because they end up hurting each other.

Yeah, that's the impression I got from reading (I've now read the entire synopsis)--that it was about fighting the right way and not purposely hurting each other. I liked Dr. Phil's comment that it's not enough to have wisdom, but one has to know how to apply it properly. It can't be pounded into the other person.

I've heard that we should listen to what one says when angry is a true reflections of his feelings. I think that is partially true. It may be a true reflection of his feelings at the moment, but not necessarily at other times.

Yeah, that's the impression I got from reading (I've now read the entire synopsis)--that it was about fighting the right way and not purposely hurting each other. I liked Dr. Phil's comment that it's not enough to have wisdom, but one has to know how to apply it properly. It can't be pounded into the other person.

I've heard that we should listen to what one says when angry is a true reflections of his feelings. I think that is partially true. It may be a true reflection of his feelings at the moment, but not necessarily at other times.
Yes, Dr. Phil drilled it into Chris' head that just because Chris is almost 35 years older than Adrienne, it doesn't mean he is necessarily wiser. All it means is that Chris has lived longer and has had more issues to deal and face in his life than his wife.

Also, Dr. Phil had to tell Chris that he had to let go of this "power" struggle that he was trying to have over Adrienne. Chris felt they could be "equals" meaning they could each be in "power" at different times, but according to Dr. Phil, Chris wanted TO CONTROL WHEN AND WHO WOULD HAVE THAT POWER. :lol: Good one Dr. Phil. That was so true!!!

I was surprised Chris' drinking wasn't brought up. I guess they are working on that issue in private counseling.

When Chris was b*tching abt the cat litter, it was so obvious to the rest of us what he should do. Rather than keep after Adrienne to clean it everyday, why not SHARE in the work and help keep it clean himself? :crazy: :lol:

That's interesting because I've always viewed Adrianne as being more controlling and Chris just trying to get SOME control. :crazy: She pushed and seduced him into a relationship that he was hesitant about getting into. She wouldn't move out on her own, but stayed in his house, and told him they needed to get engaged instead. She gave him an ultimatum: get engaged or break up. ("I get my way or I walk.") She said she would be happy to be engaged several years, but then put the pressure on him to get married in less than a year. Did Dr. Phil know all this? I have never heard someone call her down for being controlling. I just don't get it. :confused: I think Chris is wrong too, but I guess I'm missing something somewhere. Is it ok for a woman to be controlling but not for a man to be?

That's interesting because I've always viewed Adrianne as being more controlling and Chris just trying to get SOME control. :crazy: She pushed and seduced him into a relationship that he was hesitant about getting into. She wouldn't move out on her own, but stayed in his house, and told him they needed to get engaged instead. She gave him an ultimatum: get engaged or break up. ("I get my way or I walk.") She said she would be happy to be engaged several years, but then put the pressure on him to get married in less than a year. Did Dr. Phil know all this? I have never heard someone call her down for being controlling. I just don't get it. :confused: I think Chris is wrong too, but I guess I'm missing something somewhere. Is it ok for a woman to be controlling but not for a man to be?
You are right. In the shows where we have seen this relationship flourish, it was definitely Adrienne pulling the strings to get what she wanted. I always felt they were headed for trouble simply because she wanted to have it her way. I guess because she "got what she wanted" - marriage - Chris is now in control of things. :lol: Because they are in private counseling, it could be that she has learned to tame that controlling part of herself and is now trying to work on these other issues that plague their relationship.

A lot of times, the issues that plagued a dating relationship can turn into other problems when two people marry. In this case it seems that Chris probably didn't like when Adrienne was controlling in the whole dating relationship, the engagement, and ultimately, getting Chris to the altar. He probably felt he lost control and is now "overcompensating" for that time in his life when he was not in control.

I agree with Chris during the whole dating relationship. He was being pushed, prodded, given ultimatums, etc. That was an example of when Chris' "wisdom" was needed and he surely had the brains to know that he wasn't wanting another failed marriage. I give him kudos for recognizing early on the issues that now plague them.

my CBS Station had a Weather Alert at 3:00 pm so I did not get to see it Yesterday being Friday, September 21, 2007 i have 2 abc station's and 2 cbs station's (use to have 3 abc's) - and 1 abc and 1 cbs air doctor phil at the same time.

I forgot to ask about the alcoholism. You said it wasn't brought up on the show. Where did you hear about it?

I forgot to ask about the alcoholism. You said it wasn't brought up on the show. Where did you hear about it?
On their show MY FAIR BRADY. Chris' father has some drinking issues and when Chris, Adrienne and his father were at dinner, it was shown how Chris' father said some serious things which was attributed to his drinking. I believe Adrienne then mentioned how Chris was just like his father when it came to drinking.

Chris became upset and was fuming after that dinner. I can't recall the actual words stated, but Chris and his drinking "problem" was mentioned. It was the first time I had ever heard of such a thing regarding Chris.

Ok. I remember that. I thought maybe something more "official" had been said somewhere. When Chris and his dad leave to get their manicures he half jokingly tells Adrianne not to get drunk with her friends. She mutters, "I'm not the one with the drinking probem."

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I went back and reread Adrianne's MySpace blog. She says the things they talked about were from the past, and they've made progress on them. She also said that the issues their therapist is currently helping them with they did not discuss on the show. I don't know about the show itself, but on the web site they sure made it look like the discussed issues are current.

I am guessing ADD did not come into the discussion?

I went back and reread Adrianne's MySpace blog. She says the things they talked about were in the past, and they've made progress on. She also said that the issues their therapist is currently helping them with they did not disucss. I don't know about the show itself, but on the web site they sure made it look like the issues are current.

I am guessing ADD did not come into the discussion?
Regarding Chris on Dr. Phil?

Regarding Chris on Dr. Phil?

Sorry. I was in a hurry before. I'll try to fix my mistakes.

Chris has ADD, and Adrianne might too. I wondered if it came into the discussion.

Sorry. I was in a hurry before. I'll try to fix my mistakes.

Chris has ADD, and Adrianne might too. I wondered if it came into the discussion.
You know, I think it did. I can't recall.

Adrianne's past drug use came into play only to bring up the fact that she has her issues in life just like Chris. When Dr. Phil mentioned the "older doesn't necessarily mean wiser" issue, he stated that even though Adrianne is young, she has had to deal with many things (drug use included) in her young life.

So Chris and Adrianne are back in the "spotlight" again...

A little over a year ago, some of us received a whole lot of crap from other posters here at S.O. because we predicted this marriage wouldn't last, and stated right off the bat that it was a joke to begin with...

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=177837

Looking back, it seems strange that anyone could have possibly thought otherwise.

So, does that mean, those who didn't think the marriage would last was right? :D

I did see an episode of I think it was My Fair Brady where Chris wanted to have surgery done to him, that only men can get but can't remember what it was... And it was like they both were saying they were right....

I read somewhere this is Chris' third marriage... Is that right?

They are still married, but some very serious problems were brought up on the Dr. Phil show. Adrianne says those problems were actuallly things they had improved on before going on to the show and that she wanted to show the progress that they had made. So technically at this point those who said it wouldn't last aren't correct, but we shall see.

Yes, this is his third marriage.

As I had stated, they definitely had issues while dating/living together but I did also say I hoped they worked things out and that their marriage would last. I said this before they got married. I am glad to see they are at least getting private therapy for their problems. That is the first step to trying to figure out how to deal with issues.