Very Surprised a Team like New England would have to stoop so low, especially after winning the title so many years.

P.A.T.S = Patriots Are Taping Signals. :lol:

P.A.T.S = Patriots Are Taping Signals. :lol:


CREATIVE-LOL

hmmm maybe thats how they won so many titles?
This is not a new allegation. Green Bay said the same thing last year.

hmmm maybe thats how they won so many titles?
This is not a new allegation. Green Bay said the same thing last year.


These are the teams that should be stealing signals


Browns
Lions
Cardinals
Texans


LOL

Im sure they are not the only ones doing it, but they were stupid enough to get caught not once but twice. This brings up the doubt about just how good they are. I think even the cowboys or giants defense could stop people if they knew what was coming.

To quote Rosco P. Coltrane from The Dukes of Hazzard, "Shame, shame! Everybody knows your name!" Whatever happens to the Patriots after the NFL has busted them for taping signals, they deserve. I think an appropriate penalty for this violation is the team losing draft picks in the 2008 NFL Draft. There will be no game forefeiture for that violation, but expect the Jets to use that as motivation for their next meeting with the Patriots. If the Packers were complaining about it, too, well, now, albeit indirectly, they've been heard. The Patriots forefeiting draft picks in next years draft would have to be the only logical discipline for the team for taping oponent's signals, but in the end, it's going to be Roger Goddell's call-he's not going to stand for cheating in his league.

Im sure they are not the only ones doing it, but they were stupid enough to get caught not once but twice. This brings up the doubt about just how good they are. I think even the cowboys or giants defense could stop people if they knew what was coming.

I'm more upset that a losing franchise like cleveland hasn't made an attempt to do something like this-lol This proves that the pats hate to lose

I'm more upset that a losing franchise like cleveland hasn't made an attempt to do something like this-lol This proves that the pats hate to loseI think Belichick is the only one who hates losing. Is he really a defensive genious ?? I remember when he coached Cleveland they wanted to throw him to the Dawg pound.

I think Belichick is the only one who hates losing. Is he really a defensive genious ?? I remember when he coached Cleveland they wanted to throw him to the Dawg pound.
That's right - and the Dawg Pound was all ready for him, too!! :smash:

Bill Belechick today at his press conference

Reporter: Are you embarassed by this?

Belechick's Reply: Anyone want to talk about the Chargers?


LOL

talk about changing the subject.:lol:

I hate Bill Belicheck. The CHEATERS! I hate the pats even more

I hate Bill Belicheck. The CHEATERS! I hate the pats even more
Do you hate the Pats more than the Raiders, Leonard?? ;) :lol:

I hate Bill Belicheck. The CHEATERS! I hate the pats even more

I wonder if he cheated on his Match Game appearance. :rolleyes:

I wonder if he cheated on his Match Game appearance. :rolleyes:
He was on Match Game!? :lol:

First the Patriots show no class and poor sportsmanship by mocking Shawne Merriman's "lights out" dance through the halls of Qualcomm Stadium and Ellis Hobbs dancing on the grass after the Pats fluke victory. Then they get caught cheating by taping signals.

The Pats deserved to lose in the playoffs.

He was on Match Game!? :lol:


Actually it was Brian Billick who appeared on Match Game. He appeared on an episode of Match Game PM and did horrible.

Do you hate the Pats more than the Raiders, Leonard?? ;) :lol:
Monika I hate the pats the 2nd most lol

First the Patriots show no class and poor sportsmanship by mocking Shawne Merriman's "lights out" dance through the halls of Qualcomm Stadium and Ellis Hobbs dancing on the grass after the Pats fluke victory. Then they get caught cheating by taping signals.

The Pats deserved to lose in the playoffs.
WELL SAID AGREED!! The Pats just got by on that one. If Mcree doesn't fumble it a Chargers win. I was very shocked to see that by the pats I thought they had more class than that!

Actually it was Brian Billick who appeared on Match Game. He appeared on an episode of Match Game PM and did horrible.

Oops, Thanks, Brian. I would've swore it was Billichek or however you spell his name.

I wonder if he cheated on his Match Game appearance. :rolleyes:

Brian Billick was a contestant on Match Game, not Bill Belichick.

Brian Billick was a contestant on Match Game, not Bill Belichick.

Brian already corrected me on that but thanks just the same for putting another bullet in me for good measure.

These are the teams that should be stealing signals


Browns
Lions
Cardinals
Texans


LOL
:lol: that's funny

First the Patriots show no class and poor sportsmanship by mocking Shawne Merriman's "lights out" dance through the halls of Qualcomm Stadium and Ellis Hobbs dancing on the grass after the Pats fluke victory. Then they get caught cheating by taping signals.

The Pats deserved to lose in the playoffs.



I don't want to hear that silly sh*T. The Chargers LOST because they were not good enough and the Pats earned the right to celebrate on their home field. No other way to put it

I don't want to hear that silly sh*T. The Chargers LOST because they were not good enough and the Pats earned the right to celebrate on their home field. No other way to put itThe Pats earned NOTHING. When you cheat you have a definate advantage, so as far as Super Bowl winners and a so called dynasty means nothing now.

The Pats earned NOTHING. When you cheat you have a definate advantage, so as far as Super Bowl winners and a so called dynasty means nothing now.


It means nothing to you, regardless in the record boks it will always be

2002-PATS WIN SB
2003-PATS WIN SB
2005-PATS WIN SB

The Pats earned NOTHING. When you cheat you have a definate advantage, so as far as Super Bowl winners and a so called dynasty means nothing now.


This assumes that somehow before the 1st quarter has even ended, the guy with the camera has not only figured out which of the two or three guys sending signals to the defense is legit (most teams employ at least one and usually two guys to “send” fake signals) but also managed to crack the code and figure out what defensive action the signals translate to so that he can then signal the offense. Of course, he has to get all that deciphering and counter signaling done in the handful of seconds between when the defense makes its call and Brady calls the snap. If Bill Belichick is hiring people that good at code-cracking and multi-tasking, we need to put him in charge of the CIA.

All the people complaining might want to look at the actual rule they broke. It was using the camera that was illegal, not the stealing of signals. Every team does that. Even Shanahan admitted to hiring a lip reader to find out what the other team was saying. Point being, yes it was wrong, but honestly, teams change signals every game, and by the time they were able to look at the video and attach the signals to the plays that were run, the game would of been over. None the less, those who hate the Pats will continue to do so, and there is no changing that. A lot of it is jealousy. The Patriots made a mistake and paid for it, but to claim that it had anything to do with winning their Superbowls is preposterous, and I'm from New York.

I don't want to hear that silly sh*T. The Chargers LOST because they were not good enough and the Pats earned the right to celebrate on their home field. No other way to put it


If you're going to celebrate on your opponent's field, do it with class. The Pats didn't celebrate with class.

If you're going to celebrate on your opponent's field, do it with class. The Pats didn't celebrate with class.


LT is just mad he lost and it's going to happen again on sunday because I knew the pats heard that dumb statement he made

First the Patriots show no class and poor sportsmanship by mocking Shawne Merriman's "lights out" dance through the halls of Qualcomm Stadium and Ellis Hobbs dancing on the grass after the Pats fluke victory. Then they get caught cheating by taping signals.

The Pats deserved to lose in the playoffs.
No they don't deserve to lose. As for Merriman's light's out dance, he's the one who was out of line every time he did it. Talk about poor sportsmanship. Then everyone cries when the Pats give it back to him.

No they don't deserve to lose. As for Merriman's light's out dance, he's the one who was out of line every time he did it. Talk about poor sportsmanship. Then everyone cries when the Pats give it back to him.


I will be very upset if the Pats lose on sunday to the chargers. Please, I need the pats to win, kick the chargers a$$ so LT can cry again

This assumes that somehow before the 1st quarter has even ended, the guy with the camera has not only figured out which of the two or three guys sending signals to the defense is legit (most teams employ at least one and usually two guys to “send” fake signals) but also managed to crack the code and figure out what defensive action the signals translate to so that he can then signal the offense. Of course, he has to get all that deciphering and counter signaling done in the handful of seconds between when the defense makes its call and Brady calls the snap. If Bill Belichick is hiring people that good at code-cracking and multi-tasking, we need to put him in charge of the CIA.

All the people complaining might want to look at the actual rule they broke. It was using the camera that was illegal, not the stealing of signals. Every team does that. Even Shanahan admitted to hiring a lip reader to find out what the other team was saying. Point being, yes it was wrong, but honestly, teams change signals every game, and by the time they were able to look at the video and attach the signals to the plays that were run, the game would of been over. None the less, those who hate the Pats will continue to do so, and there is no changing that. A lot of it is jealousy. The Patriots made a mistake and paid for it, but to claim that it had anything to do with winning their Superbowls is preposterous, and I'm from New York.
Thanks Brian. It's nice to read a voice of reasoned perspective for a change, and not the usual hysterical hyperbole from the knee-jerk, 'Hang 'Em High' crowd. The Patriots will move on from this. Belichick is a bold man, even arrogant. That's his problem here, but to try to claim that this affects their prior wins is nonsense. No excuses, what they did was wrong, but the Patriot haters are licking their chops.

I don't want to hear that silly sh*T. The Chargers LOST because they were not good enough and the Pats earned the right to celebrate on their home field. No other way to put it
and I heard from the Eagles and Steelers yesterday that they should have won if the Pats hadn't cheated. That's a bunch of bull. The Pats beat them because they were a better team. Even in that SB with the Eagles I had absolutely no fear that the Patriots were going to lose.

I don't know why Belichick did what he did....he didn't have to because his team was the best and for anyone to actually believe that the Patriots SB's are tainted is just stupid. I heard Coach Parcells on TV a little while ago and he blamed the teams that this was going on against because they had to be very lapsed in protecting their plays. He said he was always on guard against spying because it goes on all the time. I even remember reading about how it went on back when Tom Landry and George Allen were coaching against each other. Trying to gain the upper hand over the opponent is part of the game. They asked the coach of the Jets today since he was on Belichick's staff if he knew about all of this beforehand and he said no comment. lol It was a setup.

No they don't deserve to lose. As for Merriman's light's out dance, he's the one who was out of line every time he did it. Talk about poor sportsmanship. Then everyone cries when the Pats give it back to him.

If it makes you feel better, Merriman won't do that dance this season. Don't think that I condone that dance, I don't. It is bad sportsmanship but that doesn't give the other team a license to do it. Two wrongs don't make a right.

If it makes you feel better, Merriman won't do that dance this season. Don't think that I condone that dance, I don't. It is bad sportsmanship but that doesn't give the other team a license to do it. Two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't care if he does the Macarana. My point is that to bring others to task for doing something that he started is illogical.

If it makes you feel better, Merriman won't do that dance this season. Don't think that I condone that dance, I don't. It is bad sportsmanship but that doesn't give the other team a license to do it. Two wrongs don't make a right.


LT is a immature sore loser and I want to see his ugly face after the chargers lose the Game on sunday night