You know it's funny but possibly somewhat sad because I'm way too much into the Honeymooners I think, but sometimes, I feel as if I could take Ralph's place, for a little while, I could really enjoy myself.

i don't think I would mind having a true blue friend like Norton, who followed Ralph around everywhere when he thought he was going to commit suicide and I think he's funny even though it may seem like he's annoying.

I would not even mind having a wife like Alice, who's cute, and tells me when I'm wrong when I am wrong, but deep down, really loves me.

It's halirious, because it's like I sometimes see my own life when I watch the Honeymooners, because Ralph always had big dreams but he always was in a non-rich apartment, similar to my life, even though I am only 19.

Does anyone else have to laugh because it's like you almost feel or wish you could take the life of the Honeymooners every now and then?

I can't believe how addicted I am, it's like real life is boring, after seeing a funny guy like Norton, it's as if now, I want a friend like Norton, instead of the friends I have, who are always so serious and never have any fun.

I heard of living in TV, but it's funny how TV can live in you so much, LoL.

You know it's funny but possibly somewhat sad because I'm way too much into the Honeymooners I think, but sometimes, I feel as if I could take Ralph's place, for a little while, I could really enjoy myself.

i don't think I would mind having a true blue friend like Norton, who followed Ralph around everywhere when he thought he was going to commit suicide and I think he's funny even though it may seem like he's annoying.

I would not even mind having a wife like Alice, who's cute, and tells me when I'm wrong when I am wrong, but deep down, really loves me.

It's halirious, because it's like I sometimes see my own life when I watch the Honeymooners, because Ralph always had big dreams but he always was in a non-rich apartment, similar to my life, even though I am only 19.

Does anyone else have to laugh because it's like you almost feel or wish you could take the life of the Honeymooners every now and then?

I can't believe how addicted I am, it's like real life is boring, after seeing a funny guy like Norton, it's as if now, I want a friend like Norton, instead of the friends I have, who are always so serious and never have any fun.

I heard of living in TV, but it's funny how TV can live in you so much, LoL.

I agree with what Bill S. said. Outside of the living situation, Ralph had it
good and when I was younger I often wished I had the same type of set up that he had with a loving wife and a faithful friend because I like to dream big
and I'm always trying to come up with money making schemes so I don't think your comments are sad to say.

I just find it funny because I sometimes think I treat my friends as if they are Ed Norton, like I joke with them as would Ralph would to do Ed.

Also, I find it so funny, how I will not let "Hollywood" take me over like they seem to do with so many people.

I do not even feel like a 19 year old.

I mean I'm on my computer, not downloading American Idol, but watching the Color Honeymooners, The Classic and Lost episodes, listening to Old Time Radio shows such as Sherlock Holmes, Burns and Allen, The Jack Benny Show, etc, etc, etc.

I bet if someone was to read everything I do in my life, they probably would think I was like in my 50s or something, LoL.

I mean, I don't know many other people my age who are into much of the stuff I am in to. Many of the people I know, I don't even think they know that they ever had "radio shows" where you would literally sit next to your radio, as if it was a TV.

You know it's funny but possibly somewhat sad because I'm way too much into the Honeymooners I think, but sometimes, I feel as if I could take Ralph's place, for a little while, I could really enjoy myself.

i don't think I would mind having a true blue friend like Norton, who followed Ralph around everywhere when he thought he was going to commit suicide and I think he's funny even though it may seem like he's annoying.

I would not even mind having a wife like Alice, who's cute, and tells me when I'm wrong when I am wrong, but deep down, really loves me.

It's halirious, because it's like I sometimes see my own life when I watch the Honeymooners, because Ralph always had big dreams but he always was in a non-rich apartment, similar to my life, even though I am only 19.

Does anyone else have to laugh because it's like you almost feel or wish you could take the life of the Honeymooners every now and then?

I can't believe how addicted I am, it's like real life is boring, after seeing a funny guy like Norton, it's as if now, I want a friend like Norton, instead of the friends I have, who are always so serious and never have any fun.

I heard of living in TV, but it's funny how TV can live in you so much, LoL.

Although I would miss my computer, I would immediately say YES, because they had basically nothing, except what was most important: love and friends. That is really all we need. We don't need material things to make us feel important or loved. And you always knew that Ralph and Alice were genuine when they told each other that they loved the other. If the rest of the people on here are like I am...even though my husband and I don't have a six figure income (I don't even have a job for that matter - YET), we have more than enough 'junk' -- actually too much. Stuff we don't even need or use. We are truly blessed...but don't have the sense to realize it. The idea of living in a much simpler time, people had morals, dressed like they had some sense...wonderful movies, great music and television that made you laugh and not offensive. So, in a heartbeat, I'd say yes...but I'd still miss my computer! :-)

You know it's funny but possibly somewhat sad because I'm way too much into the Honeymooners I think, but sometimes, I feel as if I could take Ralph's place, for a little while, I could really enjoy myself.

i don't think I would mind having a true blue friend like Norton, who followed Ralph around everywhere when he thought he was going to commit suicide and I think he's funny even though it may seem like he's annoying.

I would not even mind having a wife like Alice, who's cute, and tells me when I'm wrong when I am wrong, but deep down, really loves me.

It's halirious, because it's like I sometimes see my own life when I watch the Honeymooners, because Ralph always had big dreams but he always was in a non-rich apartment, similar to my life, even though I am only 19.

Does anyone else have to laugh because it's like you almost feel or wish you could take the life of the Honeymooners every now and then?

I can't believe how addicted I am, it's like real life is boring, after seeing a funny guy like Norton, it's as if now, I want a friend like Norton, instead of the friends I have, who are always so serious and never have any fun.

I heard of living in TV, but it's funny how TV can live in you so much, LoL.


I don't think it's sad at all. It only goes to show you how magical this show was and still is. BUT, it sounds like your a Full Grown NUT! he he

I would love to step in Ralph's shoes for a while. I was gonna say Norton's, but I don't think I'd like it down that sewer! Lol! I think it would be GREAT to live without a TV or phone. I have often wondered how it must of been to simply sit near the radio once a week for your favorite show. Life is too fast paced and complicated these days.

Ralph had the best possible wife in the whole world. She was caring, loyal, pretty, talented, intelligent, and a swell lady all around. She even took all of Ralph's ranting and raving. But, she didn't back down at the same time. I just wouldn't want to argue as much as they did or yell at my wife cause that's not my personality. Just think, if I could take his place at the right moment in time, I could save Jackie Gleason's life by stopping at a red light! Lol!

Great post RedPenguin!

HaHa, you both made me laugh.

I enjoyed reading both of your posts.

I really liked the part about stopping at a Red Light, most people probably would never remember fine little details like that, but you did. Not most people as in anyone on this board, but any random people you could meet on the street.

What I loved about the show is how, they actually picked on their real lives. How they mentioned Jackie Gleason mostly but sometimes Art Carney, as if they were literally not Art Carney and Jackie Gleason. It was cool but funny to hear Ralph talk about Jackie Gleason, because in some ways he wasn't Jackie Gleason but in so many other ways he was. I've never seen any other show literally talk about themselves like that. It just adds something completely special.

I love old time shows, but it's boring and annoying, how when most people I talk to in person, never knew who Red Skeleton, George Burns, Gracie Allen, Jack Benny, and so many more people were. They were such great people, and they were not afraid to pick on themselves. They even permitted people during THEIR shows to pick on THEM but in a nice and funny way.

It's like now of days you can't say someone is fat or overweight because of all the political correctness we have now of days. If you ever watched Blue Collar TV's Political Corrected Up Fairly Tales you will know what I mean.

I bet if today, Alice, said in Oh My Aching Back, when Ralph said, "I'm not the type of man that eats and runs", "Eats and Runs, the way you eat, you're lucky if you can walk" tons of people would probably explode saying, she's making fun of big people and she hates big people, and she should do a public apology in front of a news camera. You can't have any clean fun really any more it seems.

Also, how so many people liked Friends, I never felt like I could compare to that show, and I don't think it was because of New York. I mean, many shows were in New York, and I think I Love Lucy was wasn't it? But it felt like I could literally take one of the characters places, it didn't feel like drama heaven like so many shows are now of days. Even Dirty Jobs and Mythbusters I feel I can step in their shoes somewhat, how can I step into shows like Gene Simmons Family Jewels, LoL. I wouldn't mind stepping in to the daughters life, because I think she's cute, but yet, she's full of drama, that even my Mother says so, and she's basically a drama detector.

I think "Baby Lisa" on Dog the Bounty hunter is cute also, she's way more my type though, because she is cute yet it's like she's shy and not like, HELL I'M GOING TO BE ON CAMERA OR I AM GOING TO BE SOMEBODY WITH THE CAMERA! LoL. What ever happened to the cute girls, who were celebrities but they weren't? Like in the olden days, it seemed we had cute celebrities but they were not completely drama, but now of days we have Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie, Lindsey Lohan, and the Olsen Twins. I don't think any of them are bad looking, but if I had to be with any of them, I think I would be like Ralph, and put them on the moon, where they can do the Mambo together.

As long as my family and loved ones could step back in time with me-I'd go without a moments hesitation. The days when men were men and women were sexy and classy at the same time. Movies, music, nice night clubs, fashion, everything was better -and safer- My dad told me once how in the 50's women would leave their babies outside in their strollers while they went into the store to shop -and when they came out..the babies were still safely where they had left them :eek:- Ha, now a days kids aren't even safe right by your side- it's pathetic.
Also, to have a friend like Norton would be nice there wasn't anything he wouldn't do for Ralph.

Yeah, so many men that I know, I don't think agree with me.

I would so much more find a woman like Alice sexy, because she was pretty, yet things were not flying out, of her dress(es).

She was pretty yet she didn't act like she was the hottest woman in the world. It was like she knew when to talk and when not to, when it came to Ralph.

See I go for women who are pretty but not ones that flash everyone. I like the more shyer but pretty women.

I don't like girls who throw it all around. I would not like any of the wome on that MTV Show My Sweet Sixteen if you ever seen that show.

Those girls, I would go nuts if I had to be with them. Believe me, all of them would be on the moon but I doubt they would be doing the Mambo on the moon.

Yeah, so many men that I know, I don't think agree with me.

I would so much more find a woman like Alice sexy, because she was pretty, yet things were not flying out, of her dress(es).

She was pretty yet she didn't act like she was the hottest woman in the world. It was like she knew when to talk and when not to, when it came to Ralph.

See I go for women who are pretty but not ones that flash everyone. I like the more shyer but pretty women.

I don't like girls who throw it all around. I would not like any of the wome on that MTV Show My Sweet Sixteen if you ever seen that show.

Those girls, I would go nuts if I had to be with them. Believe me, all of them would be on the moon but I doubt they would be doing the Mambo on the moon.

You have brought up many good points in your thread. I agree with everything you said. The 20s thru the 50s in my opinion were the best times
and I have often wished I had lived during that era to have experienced the radio, music, movies, the character of people, and a more calmer way of life.
Definitely, those were the days! :)

That Apartment was just way too small for a married couple

I'm so amazed to see the popularity of The Honeymooners. Maybe many of my teenage friends maybe don't know anythin about it but many still do.

I travel to New York every now and then with family just to visit and look around, because I love subways and just so much more about the city.

I have to make it a cool deal every time I go, since our room, is so close the to Port Authority of NY and NJ bus terminal, to always see the Ralph Kramden Statue at least once during every visit, I just find it so neat, how it was a fictional show, yet they put a statue at the Port Authority as if he really was a real life bus driver.

There is also a Jackie Gleason Depot in Brooklyn, I want to eventually see on my next visit for the heck of it, even though it's not specifically named after The Honeymooners but it's defiantly named after the star.

I like seeing the Statue in front of the port authority, but did Ralph actually drive in Mahattan? See I know he lived in Brooklyn, but the addresses a couple times of the Gotham Bus company sounded like Manhattan addresses not Brooklyn address, but I know Brooklyn has some grid layouts with number streets and I think they also have number avenues.

EDIT: I take it back about the Gotham Bus company, Honeymooners.net says 225 River Street, NYC, NY, which the only borough to have River St or at least River St with that address is Brooklyn, so I guess it's Brooklyn.

Actually Ralph lived in Brooklyn but he drove the Madison Ave bus in Manhattan so yes, his job and everything was in Manhattan. He often spoke about commuting back home on the subway too.

And as for their apartment. You'd be surprised at how many apartments there are like that in NYC. And they cost a fortune!!!! It's sad but true. That's why I don't plan on living in NYC that long.

You're right about rents being so high in NYC. I just finished watching the episode about the Janitor. Even though Mr. Johnson's building was falling apart, it looks like he (or his heirs) would have a lot of money today in that same building if they still owned it.

Ralph had it made, and deep down he knew it. A beautiful and understanding wife. How many women would put up with someone like him?. And Norton was a true-blue friend. How many REAL friends could you throw out of your home and they would speak to you the next day like nothing happened just because they understood you and liked you anyway.

I wasn't born until 1962. But watching a show like this, the times back in the 50's seemed a lot more tranquil. Maybe it really wasn't. But just watching a show MADE back then...it sure seems a lot less complicated. One thing I notice about a sitcom made long ago compared to today: Most of the laughs seem genuine because something happening or said was really funny (at least to me it was). Today...most laughs seem to come from insults or some smartass comment geared toward a parent/friend/whomever. BUT, if it makes people laugh, then I guess that's all that matters. We certainly need more laughter and smiles in todays world.