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Thor2000

07-12-2007, 01:03 PM

crystaldawn

07-12-2007, 01:52 PM

Yes I agree about finding resolutions to all those cases. Not sure if you were aware of this or not but trucker Devin Williams remains were eventually found. They couldn't tell what he died from but I wouldn't be suprised if it were exposure.

mozartpc27

07-12-2007, 02:32 PM

Kane

07-12-2007, 02:33 PM

Since the series has ended, there are several cases I recall that I want to to see solved. Among them:

The capture of:
Mahfuz Huck, murderer of Todd Kelly
Marvin and Sandra Maple, who abducted their grandchildren and never caught
murderer of Ali Berrelez
the attempted murderer of an unidentified woman on Berryman Road in Putnam, CT
attempted murder of motorcyclist Jay Durham
murderer of Katherine Korzilius who inspired Jon Bon Jovi song

Resolution of missing person cases of:
Tara Calico - missing from Belem, NM
Angela Hammond - abducted from Clinton, MO phone booth
Sodder Children - wansihed from Christmas Eve home fire
Devon Williams - missing Arizona truck driver
Tami Leppert - missing actress from Cocoa Beach, California
Laura Bible and Ashley Freeman - vanished from Vinita Park, OK housefire
Traci Jo Shine - murdered by boyfriend, body never found
Carrie Culberson - murdered by boyfriend, body never found

Not all the cases you listed were ever featured on UM. They include the Carrie Culberson case. As for the Sodder children, that case doesn't ring a bell.

I really wish Court TV would pick up "Unsolved Mysteries" with a new host or that America's Most Wanted would add the show files to their case files!

You should be getting part of your wish for the former. It was recently announced that HBO's distribution wing will be succeeding Buena Vista Television as the distributor for UM. With Lifetime's UM deal ending next year, Cosgrove & Meurer Productions will be shopping the series to other networks. Although it is too early to know what channel will be buying the show, I'd say there's a 99.9 percent probability that it will be another cable network.

As for the latter, AMW and UM were designed as separate shows, and that's the way it is meant to be. Besides, AMW has profiled plenty of cases that also happened to have been profiled on UM. So that's as far as it needs to go (and should go). Merging the two shows in any way would be like Pepsi becoming business partners with Coca-Cola. Or merging The Radio Factor with The Savage Nation (perhaps renaming it The Radio Nation or The Savage Factor)! :lol:

kamy

07-12-2007, 03:14 PM

There are so may cases that I cannot think of right now, but here are the ones right off the top of my head:

Gordon Page, JR.
Kurt Sova
Tammy Lynn Leppert
Baskin children
Cindy.............man I just drew a blank, but she's the one that they don't know if it was suicide or murder. Not Anderson.
Marlys Thomas' baby, Mary Agnes Gross--is she dead or alive?
Nyleen Kay Marshall
Sharon Marshall (actually was this case even on UM?)
Angela Hammond!
Tracy Kirkpatrick
Tara Calico

*Sodder children, Carrie Culberson in fact weren't on UM, what about Traci Jo Shine? I don't remember her.

Kane

07-12-2007, 08:13 PM

Sharon Marshall (actually was this case even on UM?)

If you are referring to the young woman who died in a suspicious hit-and-run accident, then yes. "Sharon Marshall" was discussed in the 1995 segment about the 1994 abduction of Michael Hughes. "Sharon Marshall" was one of several aliases that she used, so it may not be her actual name. (Hence the quotation marks around the name.)

There is a book about her: A Beautiful Child, by Matt Birkbeck.

Here's a link related to the case.

http://karisable.com/mbirkbeck.htm

kamy

07-12-2007, 08:53 PM

If you are referring to the young woman who died in a suspicious hit-and-run accident, then yes. "Sharon Marshall" was discussed in the 1995 segment about the 1994 abduction of Michael Hughes. "Sharon Marshall" was one of several aliases that she used, so it may not be her actual name. (Hence the quotation marks around the name.)

There is a book about her: A Beautiful Child, by Matt Birkbeck.

Here's a link related to the case.

http://karisable.com/mbirkbeck.htm
Cool, thanks Kane!

wiseguy182

07-13-2007, 01:20 AM

I agree with Kane, while I do appreciate John Walsh for all he has done, and sympathize with him for his tragedy, I'm not sure I would want him taking over UM in any way.

As for what cases I want updated, all of 'em :) But that probably won't happen.

ididn'tdoit

07-14-2007, 05:13 PM

Of course I'd want to see them all get solved but the ones that get to me the most are the missing children cases like Nyleen Marshall, Anthonette Cayedito etc :(

themaninblack

07-14-2007, 10:15 PM

i remember that Jeremy Allen Jones was arrested here in Mobile, AL.
he is suspected in the disappearances of Ashley Freeman and Laura Bible.
i cant remember if he ever confessed to it though

wiseguy182

07-15-2007, 06:41 AM

Also, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Katherine Korzilius' "murderer" to be brought to justice. I'd bet everything I own that she hopped on the back of her mother's SUV, just like police theorized, and fell off. Not enough time for much else to have happened.

I'm torn on that one as well. While that theory does make sense in that it would explain how her body was found in the opposite direction of where she was headed, I'm not sure how she could have lasted as long as she did on the back of the car, given that the handle pops open when you try to hang on to it, it was hot to handle, and the mother was likely to have seen her in the mirrors.

Plus, I've never heard of that happening before. When I was growing up, it wasn't uncommon for us kids to hop in the back (bed) of the pick up truck (which is now illegal), but I've never heard of a kid riding on the outside of a vehicle. Granted we sometimes don't make the best decision when we're kids, but this obviously be extremely chancey under the best of circumcstances.

themaninblack

07-15-2007, 08:37 PM

the article i read mentioned that jones was only 18 miles from the Freeman house...

mozartpc27

07-16-2007, 10:36 AM

I'm torn on that one as well. While that theory does make sense in that it would explain how her body was found in the opposite direction of where she was headed, I'm not sure how she could have lasted as long as she did on the back of the car, given that the handle pops open when you try to hang on to it, it was hot to handle, and the mother was likely to have seen her in the mirrors.

Plus, I've never heard of that happening before. When I was growing up, it wasn't uncommon for us kids to hop in the back (bed) of the pick up truck (which is now illegal), but I've never heard of a kid riding on the outside of a vehicle. Granted we sometimes don't make the best decision when we're kids, but this obviously be extremely chancey under the best of circumcstances.

I think what you have to keep in mind is that to you and I, sure, hopping on the back of a car is chancey, but to a six year old? They don't understand the dangers of things as clearly as you or I do. I remember when I was a kid that neighborhood kids, when it snowed, would find ways to hitch sleds to the backs of passing cars (not necessarily belonging to people they knew) and ride up and down our street as if it were a sleigh ride. Not as dangerous as hopping on the back of a moving vehicle when there's no snow on the ground, but, the point is, if those kids could think to do that, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out a six year old thought she could "surprise" or "fool" Mommy by hitching a ride and appearing to "beat" her home despite walking, only to fall off. I remember trying to surprise my parents with various stunts (none as dangerous) as a kid. Hasn't every little kid, for example, hidden once or twice from their parents, thinking they could fool them into thinking they'd disappeared? I think kids get a little rush from this kind of stuff. I know I did when I was little. Indeed, I knew a kid who died when I was little doing what some thought was a prank, an attempt to scare his parents (it wasn't clear if it was a prank or it was actually suicide - - a few days before Halloween, this kid's parents went out for a 15-30 minute walk, as they always did, and when they came back they found him hanging. The kid was 13 and didn't seem a high risk for suicide, and, givn the proximity to Halloween, there was some thought he was trying to pull a prank and "scare" his parents on their return, but that it went awry. Like I said, it's unclear).

I think Katherine was trying to pull a stunt, and that she picked the wrong one to pull.

mozartpc27

07-16-2007, 10:37 AM

I'm torn on that one as well. While that theory does make sense in that it would explain how her body was found in the opposite direction of where she was headed, I'm not sure how she could have lasted as long as she did on the back of the car, given that the handle pops open when you try to hang on to it, it was hot to handle, and the mother was likely to have seen her in the mirrors.

Plus, I've never heard of that happening before. When I was growing up, it wasn't uncommon for us kids to hop in the back (bed) of the pick up truck (which is now illegal), but I've never heard of a kid riding on the outside of a vehicle. Granted we sometimes don't make the best decision when we're kids, but this obviously be extremely chancey under the best of circumcstances.

I think what you have to keep in mind is that to you and me, sure, hopping on the back of a car is chancey, but to a six year old? They don't understand the dangers of things as clearly as you or I do. I remember when I was a kid that neighborhood kids, when it snowed, would find ways to hitch sleds to the backs of passing cars (not necessarily belonging to people they knew) and ride up and down our street as if it were a sleigh ride. Not as dangerous as hopping on the back of a moving vehicle when there's no snow on the ground, but, the point is, if those kids could think to do that, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out a six year old thought she could "surprise" or "fool" Mommy by hitching a ride and appearing to "beat" her home despite walking, only to fall off. I remember trying to surprise my parents with various stunts (none as dangerous) as a kid. Hasn't every little kid, for example, hidden once or twice from their parents, thinking they could fool them into thinking they'd disappeared? I think kids get a little rush from this kind of stuff. I know I did when I was little. Indeed, I knew a kid who died when I was little doing what some thought was a prank, an attempt to scare his parents (it wasn't clear if it was a prank or it was actually suicide - - a few days before Halloween, this kid's parents went out for a 15-30 minute walk, as they always did, and when they came back they found him hanging. The kid was 13 and didn't seem a high risk for suicide, and, givn the proximity to Halloween, there was some thought he was trying to pull a prank and "scare" his parents on their return, but that it went awry. Like I said, it's unclear).

I think Katherine was trying to pull a stunt, and that she picked the wrong one to pull.

ForeverPluto

07-16-2007, 11:05 AM

I think what you have to keep in mind is that to you and me, sure, hopping on the back of a car is chancey, but to a six year old? They don't understand the dangers of things as clearly as you or I do. I remember when I was a kid that neighborhood kids, when it snowed, would find ways to hitch sleds to the backs of passing cars (not necessarily belonging to people they knew) and ride up and down our street as if it were a sleigh ride. Not as dangerous as hopping on the back of a moving vehicle when there's no snow on the ground, but, the point is, if those kids could think to do that, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out a six year old thought she could "surprise" or "fool" Mommy by hitching a ride and appearing to "beat" her home despite walking, only to fall off. I remember trying to surprise my parents with various stunts (none as dangerous) as a kid. Hasn't every little kid, for example, hidden once or twice from their parents, thinking they could fool them into thinking they'd disappeared? I think kids get a little rush from this kind of stuff. I know I did when I was little. Indeed, I knew a kid who died when I was little doing what some thought was a prank, an attempt to scare his parents (it wasn't clear if it was a prank or it was actually suicide - - a few days before Halloween, this kid's parents went out for a 15-30 minute walk, as they always did, and when they came back they found him hanging. The kid was 13 and didn't seem a high risk for suicide, and, givn the proximity to Halloween, there was some thought he was trying to pull a prank and "scare" his parents on their return, but that it went awry. Like I said, it's unclear).

I think Katherine was trying to pull a stunt, and that she picked the wrong one to pull.
But from the seggie, it said that in the shorter route where Katherine was suppose to be going in, there was a vacant lot and dogs picked up her scent around that lot. If she did indeed try to hop on the back of her mother's van, how did the dogs get her scent from the lot that was in the opposite direction?

wiseguy182

07-16-2007, 06:10 PM

I think what you have to keep in mind is that to you and me, sure, hopping on the back of a car is chancey, but to a six year old? They don't understand the dangers of things as clearly as you or I do. I remember when I was a kid that neighborhood kids, when it snowed, would find ways to hitch sleds to the backs of passing cars (not necessarily belonging to people they knew) and ride up and down our street as if it were a sleigh ride. Not as dangerous as hopping on the back of a moving vehicle when there's no snow on the ground, but, the point is, if those kids could think to do that, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out a six year old thought she could "surprise" or "fool" Mommy by hitching a ride and appearing to "beat" her home despite walking, only to fall off. I remember trying to surprise my parents with various stunts (none as dangerous) as a kid. Hasn't every little kid, for example, hidden once or twice from their parents, thinking they could fool them into thinking they'd disappeared? I think kids get a little rush from this kind of stuff. I know I did when I was little. Indeed, I knew a kid who died when I was little doing what some thought was a prank, an attempt to scare his parents (it wasn't clear if it was a prank or it was actually suicide - - a few days before Halloween, this kid's parents went out for a 15-30 minute walk, as they always did, and when they came back they found him hanging. The kid was 13 and didn't seem a high risk for suicide, and, givn the proximity to Halloween, there was some thought he was trying to pull a prank and "scare" his parents on their return, but that it went awry. Like I said, it's unclear).

I think Katherine was trying to pull a stunt, and that she picked the wrong one to pull.

That's possible. It's tough to say in a sense because this is yet another segment that suffers from vagueness: we don't know much about the route the mother took or the one Katherine was taking. It appears that the road the mother was on was not a major street by any means, which would indicate that it would have a lower speed limit. If that's the case, the scenario with the girl hopping on the back of the SUV is more likely since the mother would have been traveling at a slower speed. But if it was a major street, the scenario becomes less likely.

Then there's the route Katherine was taking. From what I can tell, it appears that she was kind of taking the back-way, for lack of a better term. It's unclear who, if anyone, could have seen her if she was taking a back-way. Again, it's tough to speculate because they didn't tell us much about it.

But again, I'm still torn on this case.

mozartpc27

07-16-2007, 06:57 PM

I believe there was only one road in this case, that made a circle through a suburban neighborhood. In other words, Katherine's normal walking route and the place where her body was discovered were different areas of the same road.

Rapunzel676

07-28-2007, 01:04 AM

This is another one I've done some research on, so here's a little information I found in newspaper accounts of the case:

According to Nancy Korzilius, the mailboxes in their neighborhood, part of the Rob Roy on the Lake subdivision in western Travis county, were less than one-eighth of a mile from their home in the 800 block of Elder Circle (or approximately four houses' away). She stopped there with Katherine and Chris at 4:00 p.m. and found Katherine at 4:15 p.m.

There was no posted speed limit (at the time, anyway) on Elder Circle and the roadway was approximately three cars wide. There were many "blind curves" in the road, but a person could have been seen from one-tenth of a mile away, close enough to stop in time to avoid hitting her.

Katherine was found "a few blocks away," at 1105 Elder Circle. No "skid marks or road debris" were found near her body. Though investigators initially suggested she had been hit by a car, the medical examiner later said the "fatal skull fracture and brain injury" were more consistent with having fallen from a moving vehicle.

"It is consistent with falling off a moving vehicle," Dr. Robert Bayardo said. "She had scrapes on her hands, elbows, knees and back. It makes me think she fell or was thrown off a moving vehicle. She died when she hit the pavement."

The newspaper reported that "Bayardo said if the child had been hit by a car she would have had fractured legs or ribs or some other impact injury from a vehicle."

An earlier article quoted investigators as saying she had "significant cuts to a hip and her back."

In the newspaper Katherine was reported as being found in the fetal position, "with her legs extended."

I didn't see anything about the vacant lot in my reading, but there was a house under construction on the street.

Hope this clarifies things a bit.

greatgarrett2

08-02-2007, 08:20 PM

There are so may cases that I cannot think of right now, but here are the ones right off the top of my head:

Gordon Page, JR.

I'd like to see that one solved too, with all the other ones of course but the above really struck a chord in me.