I usually just ignore shows, that I've stopped liking, and I seldom don't go to message boards about them, but I suddenly got an urge to tell you about my feelings about this show. I watched it, just like I watch many other family sitcoms, but this one just became too much for me.

The grown-ups on TV shows are almost always strict with children, but this show takes the cake. I wouldn't have been surprised if the Tanner sisters would have been punished for breathing. I have some examples...

When DJ skipped school and got an autograph from a singer at the mall. Okay, she had lied, and yes, she had skipped school. But if they had just let her miss one class in the beginning, she wouldn't have lied, and she would have been able to attend all other classes that schoolday. And she appearantly wanted this singer's autograph badly enough to lie and skip school, so she must have really liked her. And still, Joey had the NERVE to destroy the autograph and throw it in the dustbin! I became a big Michael Jackson fan at the same age, that DJ was at that point. If I had met Michael and one of my father's friends had done that to my MJ autograph... Well, let's just he would still be sorry he ever did it. I feel sorry for DJ in this episode, and I don't care if she lied and skipped school. She didn't deserve that treatment for so little.
When Kimmy Gdropped a TV set down to the floor below, so it was broken, and DJ wasn't allowed to see her for, I believe, three weeks. Okay, I understand, that Danny was upset, that the TV set was broken. But even after Kimmy had made sure they got out of jail, they still had the nerve to forbid DJ to see her. I think her saving their sorry butts out of jail would be worth a TV set.
When Michelle got out of hand and she received her first punishment, a "time out" in her room. Okay, maybe she did more and more stupid things, but she was three years old! When I was three years old, I didn't know what was right or wrong yet. I wouldn't have understood why I was on "time out". But Michelle not only had to understand why it happened, she even had to tell Danny she would be "a good girl". YUCK!
And yeah, when Stephanie and Michelle were grounded for going to New Zeeland. It was hardly their plan. It was an accident. And still, they were grounded!!! They were punished for a pure accident!


And the women on this show were such bitches. I hated Becky and Vicky. What did Jesse and Danny see in these awful hags? They were oh so perfect, they always had to be right, Vicky had to be stronger than Danny, Becky had to make Jesse let the boys play with Michelle's dolls, ete etc etc.

I usually just ignore shows, that I've stopped liking, and I seldom don't go to message boards about them, but I suddenly got an urge to tell you about my feelings about this show. I watched it, just like I watch many other family sitcoms, but this one just became too much for me.

The grown-ups on TV shows are almost always strict with children, but this show takes the cake. I wouldn't have been surprised if the Tanner sisters would have been punished for breathing. I have some examples...

When DJ skipped school and got an autograph from a singer at the mall. Okay, she had lied, and yes, she had skipped school. But if they had just let her miss one class in the beginning, she wouldn't have lied, and she would have been able to attend all other classes that schoolday. And she appearantly wanted this singer's autograph badly enough to lie and skip school, so she must have really liked her. And still, Joey had the NERVE to destroy the autograph and throw it in the dustbin! I became a big Michael Jackson fan at the same age, that DJ was at that point. If I had met Michael and one of my father's friends had done that to my MJ autograph... Well, let's just he would still be sorry he ever did it. I feel sorry for DJ in this episode, and I don't care if she lied and skipped school. She didn't deserve that treatment for so little.
When Kimmy Gdropped a TV set down to the floor below, so it was broken, and DJ wasn't allowed to see her for, I believe, three weeks. Okay, I understand, that Danny was upset, that the TV set was broken. But even after Kimmy had made sure they got out of jail, they still had the nerve to forbid DJ to see her. I think her saving their sorry butts out of jail would be worth a TV set.
When Michelle got out of hand and she received her first punishment, a "time out" in her room. Okay, maybe she did more and more stupid things, but she was three years old! When I was three years old, I didn't know what was right or wrong yet. I wouldn't have understood why I was on "time out". But Michelle not only had to understand why it happened, she even had to tell Danny she would be "a good girl". YUCK!
And yeah, when Stephanie and Michelle were grounded for going to New Zeeland. It was hardly their plan. It was an accident. And still, they were grounded!!! They were punished for a pure accident!


And the women on this show were such bitches. I hated Becky and Vicky. What did Jesse and Danny see in these awful hags? They were oh so perfect, they always had to be right, Vicky had to be stronger than Danny, Becky had to make Jesse let the boys play with Michelle's dolls, ete etc etc.
Yeah I think in many ways you're wrong but I hate to disagree with you but that's how I feel. You're saying he shouldn'tve punished Michelle I mean look at what she did! She had the pool in the house and it was just....she was just so bad it was just so--she was so bratty that it was like he had to punish her eventually...and the New Zealand thing--okay well the accident part came in the fact that ended up there I mean they thought it would only be a few minute thing but it wasn't. It was hours not minutes. So maybe you're right on that and Becky and Vicky were bossy and in-control of the boys but they weren't like mean....or were they? Well needless to say I did like Becky better than Vicky....Vicky was annoying....while Becky not really and I thought that her and Jesse made a better couple than Vicky and Danny.

the grown-ups on this show are way less mature then the kids lol

Okay, I understand, that Danny had to give Michelle that time-out. What was over the top was the way she was supposed to understand she had been bad. She was three years old! Okay, let her stay in her room for a while, but don't expect her to tell right from wrong yet. And having her say "I'll be a good girl..." That just made me nauseous. A three-year-old doesn't know what a "good girl" is. Mary-Kate or Ashley, whichever it was in that scene, probably didn't know that either. She probably just said what someone told her to say, without her understanding what it meant.

I come from Sweden, and I've noticed, that children are treated more strictly over in America than over in Europe. But from all TV shows I've watched, "Full House" takes the cake. Time after time, the Tanner girls were punished for accidents. And when they had done something, their punishment was too much for the "crime". I've never seen the kids on any other show be punished for accidents like the Tanner girls were. And I also blame the grown-ups for many things, that the kids later get punished for. Who left the keys in the car, so Stephanie could drive it through the wall? And how could Stephanie and Michelle even get on a plane without an airplane ticket? And why didn't Danny understand, that if he hadn't been bashing the almost adult DJ for drinking caffe con lache, he would have looked after his two youngest daughters, so they wouldn't have gotten into that mess? And why couldn't DJ just have been able to miss one class in school during her lifetime to get that autograph?

I'm actually surprised, that this show had an episode about a boy in Stephanie's class being beaten by his father, especially since they had Jesse cry and say "Who could hurt their own kids?" This is the first show, where I would have imagined the kids being spanked. But then, Jesse was the most liberal man in the house.

Okay, I understand, that Danny had to give Michelle that time-out. What was over the top was the way she was supposed to understand she had been bad. She was three years old! Okay, let her stay in her room for a while, but don't expect her to tell right from wrong yet. And having her say "I'll be a good girl..." That just made me nauseous. A three-year-old doesn't know what a "good girl" is. Mary-Kate or Ashley, whichever it was in that scene, probably didn't know that either. She probably just said what someone told her to say, without her understanding what it meant.

I come from Sweden, and I've noticed, that children are treated more strictly over in America than over in Europe. But from all TV shows I've watched, "Full House" takes the cake. Time after time, the Tanner girls were punished for accidents. And when they had done something, their punishment was too much for the "crime". I've never seen the kids on any other show be punished for accidents like the Tanner girls were. And I also blame the grown-ups for many things, that the kids later get punished for. Who left the keys in the car, so Stephanie could drive it through the wall? And how could Stephanie and Michelle even get on a plane without an airplane ticket? And why didn't Danny understand, that if he hadn't been bashing the almost adult DJ for drinking caffe con lache, he would have looked after his two youngest daughters, so they wouldn't have gotten into that mess? And why couldn't DJ just have been able to miss one class in school during her lifetime to get that autograph?

I'm actually surprised, that this show had an episode about a boy in Stephanie's class being beaten by his father, especially since they had Jesse cry and say "Who could hurt their own kids?" This is the first show, where I would have imagined the kids being spanked. But then, Jesse was the most liberal man in the house.
Yes and a good father at that too. Look I know they're not the best/worst parents in the world or in all of television comedy either but they're alright. They'res always happy (or somewhat happy) endings and everyone learns a valuable lesson for that episode because that's what Full House was in the end--a feel-good family show where nobody was perfect but in the end everything was a-okay and that way actually the show was a lot like The Brady Bunch. Well okay Full House didn't do the squares (with the exception of a Season Six episode) but overall it was a feel-good happy ending. And look it's a sitcom too--it's not a drama or a reality show--it's a sitcom. It can have moments where it feels like that too and not like something that could happen in real life. So in the end it's fiction and not real life.

I didn't like how Danny also punished Michelle when they got in trouble for sneaking into the movie theater. DJ wanted to go out with Steve badly and dragged her sisters along. What was Michelle going to do, refuse and stay home alone?

I don't remember that episode, but that sounds just like the kind of thing, that would happen on "Full House".

Is there seriously a debate here over the discipline practices of the Tanners? I'm all for a good discussion over a sitcom but is it really necessary to pick apart a show to the point where we're questionsing who deserved a grounding and who didn't deserve a time-out?

Furienna I sooooo agree with you on some points. I watched the show during its FIRST RUN. I cannot stand watching it in syndication. It must have been a slow night for television for me to have even watched this show. Maybe because it was "cute". Hell, I just know now that the show was so damn sweet that it could put a diabetic in a sugar coma.

Is there seriously a debate here over the discipline practices of the Tanners? I'm all for a good discussion over a sitcom but is it really necessary to pick apart a show to the point where we're questionsing who deserved a grounding and who didn't deserve a time-out?
When it comes to this show, yes, this debate is needed, or I wouldn't have started it. I'm Swedish, so I may come from a European point of view on how children should be treated, which is different from the American one. But while most American sitcom parents are too strict to me at times, this show takes the cake, and to a point, that it almost made me nauseous. For I believe a child should be treated with respect and not just disciplined. That was clearly not the view of the writers of this show.

Furienna I sooooo agree with you on some points. I watched the show during its FIRST RUN. I cannot stand watching it in syndication. It must have been a slow night for television for me to have even watched this show. Maybe because it was "cute". Hell, I just know now that the show was so damn sweet that it could put a diabetic in a sugar coma.
A lot of people have described the show this way, that it's just too "sweet". Another popular word to describe this show with is "sackarine". I wouldn't use these words, but maybe it's the thing, that you call "sweetness", that irks me so much.

Okay, I understand, that Danny had to give Michelle that time-out. What was over the top was the way she was supposed to understand she had been bad. She was three years old! Okay, let her stay in her room for a while, but don't expect her to tell right from wrong yet. And having her say "I'll be a good girl..." That just made me nauseous. A three-year-old doesn't know what a "good girl" is. Mary-Kate or Ashley, whichever it was in that scene, probably didn't know that either. She probably just said what someone told her to say, without her understanding what it meant.

I agree with you on that. Three year olds can't understand everything.

Yeah. When you're three years old, you can probably notice, that mum or dad gets angry with you. Maybe you even understand what you did, that makes them angry. But you don't understand why they get angry, why what you did was a big deal. I think Danny expected too much from Michelle in that episode.

Yeah. When you're three years old, you can probably notice, that mum or dad gets angry with you. Maybe you even understand what you did, that makes them angry. But you don't understand why they get angry. I sure think Danny expected too much from Michelle in that episode.
I think the mistake they made there was that Danny was talking to Michelle like she was "older". Remember, these babies and toddlers are there to entertain us and at times to have the adults "talk" to them as if they really understand. I know having had 3 kids, at the age of 3 they wouldn't care if I spoke in English, Spanish or any other language, they were not going to understand any form of discipline. :lol:

I don't have children of my own, but I have a very good memory from my own childhood. And I sure remember, that when I was three, I understood when Mum was angry with me, but not why. If I would have been given a time out, I might have understood, that it was a kind of punishment, or that it happened because someone was angry with me, but I wouldn't have understood how I had been bad or regretted what I had done.

I think the mistake they made there was that Danny was talking to Michelle like she was "older". Remember, these babies and toddlers are there to entertain us and at times to have the adults "talk" to them as if they really understand. I know having had 3 kids, at the age of 3 they wouldn't care if I spoke in English, Spanish or any other language, they were not going to understand any form of discipline. :lol:
I suppose thats true, some of my earliest memories are of me a ) "Painting" Mom's brand new wallpaper with a red crayon.....I drew pretty pictures for her, and i was SO proud! ( I remember Dad getting upset, but, i wasnt punished, since, after all, I was just trying to help with the decoration! )
b ) The time I polished ALL of Dads shoes with black polish ( It was a surprise while he napped, one day when Mom was gone ), of course, I did a VERY good job, polishing the shoes INSIDE AND OUT, not to mention the floor....ooops I had put down newspaper, but, i went "out of the lines" a little. Again, I was trying to be helpful and wasnt punished, although, the shoe polish became off limits for at least 3-4 years after that! I was somewhere around 31/2 when i did these things, btw. :blush:

I was maybe three years old, when I picked some very pretty flowers from our garden. I wanted to do something nice for my mum. But she didn't like it at all, even though she did put the flowers in wase on the kitchen table. I understood right away, that she didn't appreciate it, that she had gotten angry. But many years went by before I finally started understanding, that Mum had wanted those flowers to be left alone in the garden. That's what I'm saying. You can't expect such small children to understand too much.

I have pics of me when I was 3 years old and I had my mother's favorite face cream ALL OVER MY HAIR. Of course my mother was such a beautiful lady, rather than get mad, she took pics of me. :lol: She knew it was pointless to try and tell a 3 year old that you never put cold cream on your hair. :rofl:

I had a nice red toy car. I'd drive it all over the yard.. One day while I was alone in the back yard their was a green paint spray can nearby and being the curious little brat that I was I painted my car all Green. :eek: :lol:

I have pics of me when I was 3 years old and I had my mother's favorite face cream ALL OVER MY HAIR. Of course my mother was such a beautiful lady, rather than get mad, she took pics of me. :lol: She knew it was pointless to try and tell a 3 year old that you never put cold cream on your hair. :rofl:
Excactly! If that happens, you just wash the child's hair and hide the cream. There's nothing else to do. I wish Danny would have calmed down about his daughters. Because not only did he treat Michelle like she was older than what she was, he could also treat DJ as if she was younger. Once when DJ was like sixteen years old, almost a grown-up, Danny started yelling at her for drinking caffe con leche. He went on about it as if she had drunk wodka or whiskey or something, when it only was coffee with milk. And while he kept yelling at DJ about something so stupid, Stephanie and Michelle managed to get on a plane to New Zeeland. And instead of blaming himself for not looking after them, Danny punished them.

Excactly! If that happens, you just wash the child's hair and hide the cream. There's nothing else to do. I wish Danny would have calmed down about his daughters. Because not only did he treat Michelle like she was older than what she was, he could also treat DJ as if she was younger. Once when DJ was like sixteen years old, almost a grown-up, Danny started yelling at her for drinking caffe con leche. He went on about it as if she had drunk wodka or whiskey or something, when it only was coffee with milk. And while he kept yelling at DJ about something so stupid, Stephanie and Michelle managed to get on a plane to New Zeeland. And instead of blaming himself for not looking after them, Danny punished them.
I think Danny sniffed to many cleaning fluids when he was cleaning his house. :lol:

I think Danny sniffed to many cleaning fluids when he was cleaning his house. :lol:
:brent :rofl:

I think I must agree with that. :lol: He was so stupidly strict with his daughters, that it wasn't even funny. I mean, come on, when my parents were children, they drank coffee from a very early age. Everybody, who's in their 60s or 70s by now, drank coffee at a much younger age than what DJ was then. Danny probably drank coffee himself, when he was sixteen. It was just silly.

I guess if i ever have kids ( Which seems very unlikely at this point in my life ), i'll have to remember that 3 year olds need to be treated as their age! :lol:

And the same thing goes for teenagers.

And the same thing goes for teenagers.
Well, teenagers should be sent to their rooms at 14 and let out in time to leave for college :rolleyes:

Danny would have approved of that! :lol:

Danny would have approved of that! :lol:
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I think I'll give this thread a bump.