Watching "Florence of Arabia" Alice was just a minor character in the background while Flo had the starring role. I could see how an episode like this one would upset the "star."

Watching "Florence of Arabia" Alice was just a minor character in the background while Flo had the starring role. I could see how an episode like this one would upset the "star."
It is understandable. I just can't fathom Linda Lavin being the type to feel this way. Afterall, being on Barney Miller, she should know that it is nice to see each member of the cast "shine" once in a while.

Flo, stood out even when the episode didn't revolve around her. It's like at a party when the blonde walks in, all the brunettes seem to just fade. :lol: I sure do miss being a blonde sometimes. :lol: :lol:

It is understandable. I just can't fathom Linda Lavin being the type to feel this way. Afterall, being on Barney Miller, she should know that it is nice to see each member of the cast "shine" once in a while.

Flo, stood out even when the episode didn't revolve around her. It's like at a party when the blonde walks in, all the brunettes seem to just fade. :lol: I sure do miss being a blonde sometimes. :lol: :lol:


You are right, but I think Linda felt threatened and well she should've been. Flo was getting the funnier lines and bigger laughs.

You are right, but I think Linda felt threatened and well she should've been. Flo was getting the funnier lines and bigger laughs.
I think the way Flo (Polly) delivered the lines helped in that department as well. Each character was unique. Alice we already know was the good two-shoes, so her lines wouldn't be so funny when it came to anything that Flo would be doing or saying. Alice was good at wise cracks here and there. Flo had funny lines all the time and her face and body language just seemed to tie it all in. Her accent helped too. :lol:

I think the way Flo (Polly) delivered the lines helped in that department as well. Each character was unique. Alice we already know was the good two-shoes, so her lines wouldn't be so funny when it came to anything that Flo would be doing or saying. Alice was good at wise cracks here and there. Flo had funny lines all the time and her face and body language just seemed to tie it all in. Her accent helped too. :lol:


Very true, that is why I am sure Linda wanted Polly off the show. She saw her as a legitimate threat. If Polly had stayed any longer, it would turn into the Flo show. Not much different to what Jimmie Walker did on Good Times.

Very true, that is why I am sure Linda wanted Polly off the show. She saw her as a legitimate threat. If Polly had stayed any longer, it would turn into the Flo show. Not much different to what Jimmie Walker did on Good Times.
Exactly. But I really loved Flo. I liked the character and it only worked well on Alice. I seen her spin-off and those characters just ruined the show for me. I couldn't see Flo anywhere else but Alice. That was great chemistry.

Watching "Florence of Arabia" Alice was just a minor character in the background while Flo had the starring role. I could see how an episode like this one would upset the "star."


Well, Alice was boring, there was nothing colorful or spunky about her character. You needed a Flo or a Mel to make your show look good. Flo brought that spice and great interactions to the show.

Exactly. But I really loved Flo. I liked the character and it only worked well on Alice. I seen her spin-off and those characters just ruined the show for me. I couldn't see Flo anywhere else but Alice. That was great chemistry.


I agree with you. They even brought in Mel to try and bring back the old chemistry, but it just wasn't the same. The MAIN problem was they matured Flo into Alice!!! LOL

Kool and Brian, you both have very good points. When you have a bland character like Alice, you need the neurotic Vera, the cranky Mel and the spicy Flo. I loved Alice, but all by herself, I couldn't deal with her...as a character or a real person.

Kool and Brian, you both have very good points. When you have a bland character like Alice, you need the neurotic Vera, the cranky Mel and the spicy Flo. I loved Alice, but all by herself, I couldn't deal with her...as a character or a real person.

Mel was my boy. He came across as a bossy yeller, but he was really a nice guy who had a soft heart.

Well, Alice was boring, there was nothing colorful or spunky about her character. You needed a Flo or a Mel to make your show look good. Flo brought that spice and great interactions to the show.


I agree. I am just surprised that Alice lasted as long as it did once Flo left the series.

Kool and Brian, you both have very good points. When you have a bland character like Alice, you need the neurotic Vera, the cranky Mel and the spicy Flo. I loved Alice, but all by herself, I couldn't deal with her...as a character or a real person.


This show couldn't have survived if it weren't for the supporting cast.

This show couldn't have survived if it weren't for the supporting cast.


You can say that about any show really. Flo was a star on Alice, but a failure on her own spinoff show.

This show couldn't have survived if it weren't for the supporting cast.


Unless this show start getting better in the upcoming seasons, I'm going to think Alice stayed on the air because of this below

season 1 aired after All in the Family
season 2 aired after All in the Family
season 3 aired after All in the Family
season 4 aired after One Day at a Time
season 5 aired after One Day at a Time
season 6 aired after One Day at a Time
season 8 aired after 60 Minutes
season 9 aired after the Jeffersons

This show couldn't have survived if it weren't for the supporting cast.
Totally agree with you there. I loved the show but I think Alice was my least favorite character...maybe next to Tommy. lol

Unless this show start getting better in the upcoming seasons, I'm going to think Alice stayed on the air because of this below

season 1 aired after All in the Family
season 2 aired after All in the Family
season 3 aired after All in the Family
season 4 aired after One Day at a Time
season 5 aired after One Day at a Time
season 6 aired after One Day at a Time
season 8 aired after 60 Minutes
season 9 aired after the Jeffersons


You don't like the show?

You can say that about any show really. Flo was a star on Alice, but a failure on her own spinoff show.
It really takes a great cast/ensemble to make a show flow really well. Flo's show was terrible. Alice really took a nosedive when Belle was brought in. I liked the episodes, but Belle was really playing Flo, just a different name and her own little characteristics (wearing bell earrings, her saying that phrase "my little voice..."). It was obvious. Like I said, I liked the episodes, but it made me yearn for Flo. Jolene was crazy and funny.

Unless this show start getting better in the upcoming seasons, I'm going to think Alice stayed on the air because of this below

season 1 aired after All in the Family
season 2 aired after All in the Family
season 3 aired after All in the Family
season 4 aired after One Day at a Time
season 5 aired after One Day at a Time
season 6 aired after One Day at a Time
season 8 aired after 60 Minutes
season 9 aired after the Jeffersons
I think all the shows benefited from being on a strong comedy lineup. The only one that proved it could stand on its own was AITF.

It really takes a great cast/ensemble to make a show flow really well. Flo's show was terrible. Alice really took a nosedive when Belle was brought in. I liked the episodes, but Belle was really playing Flo, just a different name and her own little characteristics (wearing bell earrings, her saying that phrase "my little voice..."). It was obvious. Like I said, I liked the episodes, but it made me yearn for Flo. Jolene was crazy and funny.


Jolene was Diane Ladd?

You don't like the show?


Not yet, but I'm not ready to give up because they haven't reached season 4 yet. I think IN is showing season 3 right now

It really takes a great cast/ensemble to make a show flow really well. Flo's show was terrible. Alice really took a nosedive when Belle was brought in. I liked the episodes, but Belle was really playing Flo, just a different name and her own little characteristics (wearing bell earrings, her saying that phrase "my little voice..."). It was obvious. Like I said, I liked the episodes, but it made me yearn for Flo. Jolene was crazy and funny.
I didn't like Belle at all. I did like Jolene though. I thought she was down to Earth and I don't think LL felt as threatened by her.

Not yet, but I'm not ready to give up because they haven't reached season 4 yet. I think IN is showing season 3 right now


Is that why you rarely chat with us here? lol

Unless this show start getting better in the upcoming seasons, I'm going to think Alice stayed on the air because of this below

season 1 aired after All in the Family
season 2 aired after All in the Family
season 3 aired after All in the Family
season 4 aired after One Day at a Time
season 5 aired after One Day at a Time
season 6 aired after One Day at a Time
season 8 aired after 60 Minutes
season 9 aired after the Jeffersons

That helped too, but Alice was well written and funny anyway. There are a lot of shows I think lasted longer because of the lead-in, like A Different World for example. It was only successful because of the Cosby lead-in. After Cosby lefth the air waves, ADW suffered.

Totally agree with you there. I loved the show but I think Alice was my least favorite character...maybe next to Tommy. lol

Tommy was likable. He was that bright innocent kid who was going through what any teen would go through. You couldn't do much with his character, but you couldn't help but like him either.

Is that why you rarely chat with us here? lol


I think I will watch it more now that Rosie is of the View and the NBA season is coming to an end. One of the main thing I dislike about the show so far is ******** Vera. Nobody should be that STUPID

Tommy was likable. He was that bright innocent kid who was going through what any teen would go through. You couldn't do much with his character, but you couldn't help but like him either.


But Tommy was a goody two shoes too. lol

Jolene was Diane Ladd?
No. Diane Ladd played Belle. I forgot the name of the actress who played Jolene. Jolene was cool. She was soooo different. The only thing she had that was the same was that ACCENT. :lol:

Kool, I agree. I liked Tommy. He was cute. I couldn't see him in an entire episode, but sprinkled here and there, he was good. I hated that he was following in his mother's footsteps: goody two-shoes. Remember, he told Alice abt looking at Playboy!!!!!:lol:

I didn't like Belle at all. I did like Jolene though. I thought she was down to Earth and I don't think LL felt as threatened by her.

Belle is the Cindy Snow of Alice. Sandwiched in between to replace the original who is looking for her own identity. I liked Belled and Cindy Snow just for the record. Middle people gets no respect.

Belle is the Cindy Snow of Alice. Sandwiched in between to replace the original who is looking for her own identity. I liked Belled and Cindy Snow just for the record. Middle people gets no respect.
Belle and Cindy are known as the "transistional" characters. Good...for now, until something better comes along. Just like a boyfriend/girlfriend right after a break-up. :rofl:

But Tommy was a goody two shoes too. lol

Sometimes he had more sense than his mother. She was stiff and he wasn't.

Belle and Cindy are known as the "transistional" characters. Good...for now, until something better comes along. Just like a boyfriend/girlfriend right after a break-up. :rofl:


Getting back to Flo, check out "Florence of Arabia" and see what I mean about how it might **** Lavin off. lol

Getting back to Flo, check out "Florence of Arabia" and see what I mean about how it might **** Lavin off. lol
I went out last night. I missed so many episodes this week. The only one I watched was when Flo's brother came to town.

Sometimes he had more sense than his mother. She was stiff and he wasn't.


What did Tommy do that made him NOT be stiff? lol

What did Tommy do that made him NOT be stiff? lol
NOT looking at Playboy...;)

Damn Brian, this thread took off like a wildfire!

Jolene was Diane Ladd?
Celia Weston played Jolene...Diane Ladd was Belle. She was good playing Flo in the movie version but she seemed to try to copy Polly Holliday to much in the show.

NOT looking at Playboy...;)

Damn Brian, this thread took off like a wildfire!


:lol:

Tell me about it!!!

What did Tommy do that made him NOT be stiff? lol

At times he seemed to educate his mother with a smile on his face while she had a seriously look on hers. She thought she was telling him about the birds and the bees when he actually knew all that stuff.

Belle is the Cindy Snow of Alice. Sandwiched in between to replace the original who is looking for her own identity. I liked Belled and Cindy Snow just for the record. Middle people gets no respect.
I liked Cindy though...she got no respect.lol

At times he seemed to educate his mother with a smile on his face while she had a seriously look on hers. She thought she was telling him about the birds and the bees when he actually knew all that stuff.


Tell me about it, he would admit to his Mom that he looked at porn. lol

I liked Cindy though...she got no respect.lol


People got to realize that these middle people are just stepping into a role where it is sort of an emergency. They can't replace that original role, they can only be themselves, and because of that, I liked Belle and Cindy.

People got to realize that these middle people are just stepping into a role where it is sort of an emergency. They can't replace that original role, they can only be themselves, and because of that, I liked Belle and Cindy.


I didn't like Cindy. Not because she replaced Somers, but because she wasn't sexy enough.

I didn't like Cindy. Not because she replaced Somers, but because she wasn't sexy enough.
I like Cindy. BUT! again, she was trying TOO HARD to play dumb. Another Chrissy Snow.

I like Cindy. BUT! again, she was trying TOO HARD to play dumb. Another Chrissy Snow.


I can't wait for the Belle episodes, so I can see for myself how she was compared to Flo.

People got to realize that these middle people are just stepping into a role where it is sort of an emergency. They can't replace that original role, they can only be themselves, and because of that, I liked Belle and Cindy.
I remember when Belle left the show. It just seemed like it was so sudden. I didn't even know she was leaving. lol

I remember when Belle left the show. It just seemed like it was so sudden. I didn't even know she was leaving. lol

Jolene started on Belle's last day. They weren't in the same scene, but it was a telephone call from "another city"

Jolene started on Belle's last day. They weren't in the same scene, but it was a telephone call from "another city"
I know..it was like a 20 or 30 second phone call. It's like Diane Ladd quit at the last minute and she phoned in her scene off the set.

Although she stayed on much longer, on Family Matters, that show was originally supposed to be about Harriet Winslow raising her family, but once Urkel was introduced, it quickly became the Urkel show ;) She did eventually quit (last season I think? When it moved to CBS) and they replaced her with another actress.

Also, some comments on some of the other posts in this thread
I liked Cindy on Three's Company. In fact, one of my favorite episodes came from her era (the Austin Tripper one "Double Trouble", where Jack pretends he has a twin brother so he can date Furley's niece). I don't think she was supposed to be dumb, like Chrissy was, she was just really REALLY clumsy ;)

(to TheAnalyzer): ION is currently showing 2nd season episodes. They should be starting the 3rd season on June 6th.

Mel ruled. Enough said.

Linda Lavin never had another successful TV series after Alice. She tried again with Conrad Bloom and Room For Two (co-starring a pre-ELR Patricia Heaton as her daughter), but that's been it. She did guest star on Criminal Intent a few years back as well, but I think these days she sticks to stage work. In this case, it was the supporting cast who made the show, not the star.

From what I've heard/read online, Linda didn't have a problem with Polly until season 3 or maybe even early 4 but perhaps most likely 3. I've heard fans point out that if you look at the episodes shortly before Flo leaves and compare them to the first couple of seasons, the chemistry between Flo and Alice is much more friendly and intimate---apparently it's more "stand-offish" leading up to when Flo leaves.

Also, I don't think Vera is stupid. I think she's like Rose, just extremely naive. Like Betty White said, "Jay [Golden Girls director] said she's not dumb---just totally naive."

So it bugs me when viewers/fans or everyday people say Rose is "stupid", because obviously she's not. As a writer, I take offense to that on the writers' behalf, lol. Sure the girls would call her stupid, dumb, a moron, amoebe, etc., but people with more sarcasm in their personalities are bound to come down harder on innocent, naive, child-like personalities (like Mel with Vera).

And about Alice being "bland" or "boring", while she's not my favorite character, she does have some good lines, and her goody-two-shoe-edness (lol) is a nice centered balance counteracted with the craziness around her. She comes off as pretty real. Being the center/star of the show and being a stabilized character doesn't always have to make the character bland or boring---just look at Kermit the Frog on The Muppet Show---he has plenty of fans, a good deal of Muppet fans even cite him as their favorite, and he is far from bland or boring (sure a talking frog may have an advantage in interest over a conscientous waitress, but still, lol).

Sometimes he had more sense than his mother. She was stiff and he wasn't.

Well, it would have been pretty creepy the other way around.

Belle and Cindy are known as the "transistional" characters. Good...for now, until something better comes along. Just like a boyfriend/girlfriend right after a break-up. :rofl:

You could also call them "rebound" characters. There to cleanse the palate between long-term cast members.

But seriously...

In most cases, the lead in a comedy series is usually the least funniest. The lead has to anchor the show and react to all the craziness going on around them. That doesn't mean they're not funny, but they oftentimes end up being the "straight man," so to speak.

Look at Marla Gibbs. She got most of the great lines on The Jeffersons, usually at George Jefferson's expense. When she later got her own show, 227, Jackee Harry's character usually stole the show when they were in scenes together.

Like rock bands, sometimes the best creative chemistry comes from people who don't necessarily get along. Combustible chemistry can often produce great comedy. And when a certain cast member leaves, the chemistry changes, sometimes for the worse.

Jolene was pretty good, but the show was at its best when Flo was part of the mix.

BTW, I thought it was interesting that Belle and Jolene both made their debuts in the middle of a season instead of at the beginning of one.

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On The Andy Griffith Show, Andy was definitely the straight man, some might even call him boring. He might crack a joke from time to time, but he was the show's anchor. Barney Fife made the show what it was. When left, it dried up and became dull. It remained a hit, but it was never the same. Don Knotts left on his own accord and I could never imagine Andy Griffith wanting him gone.

I am late in joining but I fealt I have something to add.

On The Andy Griffith Show, Andy was definitely the straight man, some might even call him boring. He might crack a joke from time to time, but he was the show's anchor. Barney Fife made the show what it was. When left, it dried up and became dull. It remained a hit, but it was never the same. Don Knotts left on his own accord and I could never imagine Andy Griffith wanting him gone.
Good point. And as you know, Don Knotts played "second guy" again in Three's Company. Although he shared the spotlight with the trio, he was funniest as the "side dish"...had Mr. Furley had his own show, it wouldn't have worked. It worked because of the trio of characters he had to deal with.

Flo (Polly Holliday) worked on ALICE, on her own, it wasn't the same. Flo was the zany, crazy lady and her co-stars on FLO were bland. It is best when the star is somewhat bland, with some zest, but not too much.

I am late in joining but I fealt I have something to add.

On The Andy Griffith Show, Andy was definitely the straight man, some might even call him boring. He might crack a joke from time to time, but he was the show's anchor. Barney Fife made the show what it was. When left, it dried up and became dull. It remained a hit, but it was never the same. Don Knotts left on his own accord and I could never imagine Andy Griffith wanting him gone.
The big difference there was Andy. He recognized early on that Don Knotts was special. During the early episodes Andy was more of a funny man...sort of like the character he played on No Time For Sergents but the more screentime Don got Andy released the show was better with him as the straightman. Plus him and Don became best friends...something very rare. I think Andy Griffith unlike Linda Lavin though was funny. He proved it on No Time For Sergents and if you ever saw Matlock he brought a lot of humor into that show too.

And Mary Richards on "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was a wonderful central character. She was warm, funny, and she had her own specific quirks, which made her that much more loveable. Mary Tyler Moore allowed for her co-stars to shine and emphasize their personalities and quirks just as much, and it made for spectacular chemistry and acting all around. :)

I am late in joining but I fealt I have something to add.

On The Andy Griffith Show, Andy was definitely the straight man, some might even call him boring. He might crack a joke from time to time, but he was the show's anchor. Barney Fife made the show what it was. When left, it dried up and became dull. It remained a hit, but it was never the same. Don Knotts left on his own accord and I could never imagine Andy Griffith wanting him gone.

I saw an interview with Andy Griffith a few years ago where he said that when they first started doing the show, he tried being the funny one (telling jokes, etc) and that it didn't work.

Andy decided to try being the straight man and let Don Knotts do all the funny stuff. He said the magic was there instantly and they knew that's how the show would work. Andy was a very smart guy. The show was already named after him, so he put his ego aside and the rest is history.

The only reason Don Knotts left is because after a few seasons, it looked as though CBS was going to cancel the show. Don had been offered a movie role and with the show unlikely to return, he accepted the movie offer. Of course, right after he did that, CBS changed their tune and decided to renew the show.

CBS is to blame for Knotts leaving if you think about it.

And Mary Richards on "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was a wonderful central character. She was warm, funny, and she had her own specific quirks, which made her that much more loveable. Mary Tyler Moore allowed for her co-stars to shine and emphasize their personalities and quirks just as much, and it made for spectacular chemistry and acting all around. :)
Dick Van Dyke as well was a great central character. Rob Petrie was goofy, funny and a loving husband at the same time and he is like a friend to all. Mary Tyler Moore's part on TDVDS was originally a small part but she was unofficially the lead actress whereas it caused friction between her and Rose Marie because in the billing she was the lead actress. Dick Van Dyke allowing the show to be an ensemble piece made it a classic and I guess whatever friction that was there between Mary and Rose did not affect the show because you cannot tell.

Linda Lavin and Polly Holliday's tension was evident in Polly's final season where some episodes Linda was somewhat standoffish in her scenes with Polly. In the first two and a half seasons the on screen chemistry between them was there and you can see the warmth and friendship there between those two women.

Linda should had learned from Hal Linden when she was on Barney Miller. Hal was the star of the show and played the title character. He allowed his co-stars shine and it was another ensemble classic. Even though Barney Miller was not one of my favorites.

^ Hal Linden was indeed a consummate leading AND straight man. Another classic example is Bob Newhart - in both his 70s and 80s shows, he let the loonies shine. He continues to be a class act to this day.

Dick Van Dyke as well was a great central character. Rob Petrie was goofy, funny and a loving husband at the same time and he is like a friend to all.

Yes, excellent point. So with MTM and DVD, no can use the argument that a central/main/"star" character is always bland or boring or can't be enjoyable, because right here we have proof that that is simply not ture.


Mary Tyler Moore's part on TDVDS was originally a small part but she was unofficially the lead actress whereas it caused friction between her and Rose Marie because in the billing she was the lead actress. Dick Van Dyke allowing the show to be an ensemble piece made it a classic and I guess whatever friction that was there between Mary and Rose did not affect the show because you cannot tell.

What's funny though is Rose Marie's name is heard (after DVD's) first in the opening credits of each episode before MTM's---indeed, MTM's is dead last.

I read a book about The DVD Show years ago, and it was very interesting to read of the tension between MTM and Rose Marie. It was never verbalized between them, there were no "incidents" of anything, but it was just a "feeling" they had around each other, and other people could notice it around them as well. Very interesting...

Yes, excellent point. So with MTM and DVD, no can use the argument that a central/main/"star" character is always bland or boring or can't be enjoyable, because right here we have proof that that is simply not ture.




What's funny though is Rose Marie's name is heard (after DVD's) first in the opening credits of each episode before MTM's---indeed, MTM's is dead last.

I read a book about The DVD Show years ago, and it was very interesting to read of the tension between MTM and Rose Marie. It was never verbalized between them, there were no "incidents" of anything, but it was just a "feeling" they had around each other, and other people could notice it around them as well. Very interesting...

When TV Land did a special on TDVDS Rose Marie admitted that she was jealous of Mary because she was young and pretty plus she got more air time than she did and it was intended. I am glad that Carl Reiner took notice of Mary's ability to perform comedy because she was funny on TDVDS and I did enjoy the relationship of Rob and Laura. It was good to see how it was explored and we got to see it. Mary was also the voice of modern housewife by stating that housewives do not wear pearls and dresses when doing housework. She wore those capri slacks and that was one of the great things of watching the show. From what I understood that there were no catfights on the set between Mary and Rose they just kept their distance but now they get along great now. Yes, interesting as it was, that Mary was unoffically the second banana on the show but was billed last because officially Rose Marie was billed officially as the second banana. Originally most of the show was going to be set in the office but that changed and we know the history of that and how it got changed. Again, as I stated, Mary's part originally was to be small somewhat of a sounding board for Dick as in more of, "Hi honey how was your day???"

On Jaclyn Smith's reality show she was asked if she was jealous of Farrah and her hair. :lol: Jaclyn said very coyly and in a very nice way that Farrah's hair had its own telephone line and she basically admitted that yes, you couldn't help but be jealous.

It is human nature to have some resentment and jealousy, I wouldn't doubt there were troubles on many many many shows/sets.

On Jaclyn Smith's reality show she was asked if she was jealous of Farrah and her hair. :lol: Jaclyn said very coyly and in a very nice way that Farrah's hair had its own telephone line and she basically admitted that yes, you couldn't help but be jealous.

It is human nature to have some resentment and jealousy, I wouldn't doubt there were troubles on many many many shows/sets.
Laverne and Shirley comes to mind. Those two really went at it. :lol:

On Jaclyn Smith's reality show she was asked if she was jealous of Farrah and her hair. :lol: Jaclyn said very coyly and in a very nice way that Farrah's hair had its own telephone line and she basically admitted that yes, you couldn't help but be jealous.

It is human nature to have some resentment and jealousy, I wouldn't doubt there were troubles on many many many shows/sets.
Jaclyn Smith has always been a class act and above all, A LADY. She obviously didn't let these feelings take over since she and Farrah have been good friends for years. JS is also the epitome of a team player - she was the only Angel to stay on the show its entire run!!

Jaclyn Smith has always been a class act and above all, A LADY. She obviously didn't let these feelings take over since she and Farrah have been good friends for years. JS is also the epitome of a team player - she was the only Angel to stay on the show its entire run!!
Kudos to Jaclyn. Very much a class act and obviously learned that it is best to remain "quiet" and just enjoy the ride. ;)

CHiPs is another show that had feuds.

Laverne and Shirley comes to mind. Those two really went at it. :lol:

Are you serious, or joking?


Kudos to Jaclyn. Very much a class act and obviously learned that it is best to remain "quiet" and just enjoy the ride. ;)

CHiPs is another show that had feuds.


These all sound like very interesting stories, lol.

I did not know that Linda and Polly had Problems

Good Times and Sanford and Son jump out at me that had internal problems.

The egos of actors in the entertainment business are legendary. Jealousy and resentment between female co-stars seems to have been a Hollywood staple for years.

In the early stages of the development of a series, the producers and writers already have lined out who the "star" of the show will be. However, quite often, the general public has a different opinion. Writers may favor a particular charatcer an/or actor and lean on them for the better lines. Sometimes, this isn't always the "star" but a breakout supporting character.

I just never understood how a rather laconic actress like Linda Lavin could have knabbed her own sitcom. Without the supporting actors on "Alice", it would have fell flat. The show died a slow, agonizing death following Polly Holliday's departure.

so Alice had 9 Diffrent Time Period