View Full Version : Why was Becker underrated?


Janice
02-28-2007, 11:20 PM
Becker had a respectable six-year run, so I'm assuming the ratings were decent. I realize that the show doesn't have the status of other shows of the 90s and beyond..i.e...Seinfeld, Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens, Friends, Frasier, Will & Grace, etc. I ask myself why I missed the show during its original run, and quite honestly, I barely heard of it back then.

I know the show got moved a few times during the last year or so, which usually indicates a struggle to stay above water. Did CBS market the show correctly? Come next week, I will have seen all 129 episodes of Becker. I can't find anyone who watched the show, and I've asked plenty of people.

The talent was there, the laughs were there. I would think that Cheers/Ted Danson fans would have been interested in Becker. Superb writing, interesting characters...I just wonder why Becker wasn't more popular, even in syndication.

Thoughts?

Ireneparalegal
02-28-2007, 11:23 PM
My feeling, for me, is that it got lost in the shuffle with all those high-profile shows. I am barely getting into it in syndication. I didn't even realize the show had been canceled until abt six months after the fact. I just happened to read abt it.

Same thing with King of Queens, I didn't get into the show until three years ago. There was a preview of this two-parter episode and it looked funny as hell, so I watched it. I caught up with it by watching it in syndication. I wish I had seen it from the beginning.

AKA
03-01-2007, 03:43 AM
I just don't think CBS promoted it as well as they could have.

Ant-Lox
03-01-2007, 11:43 AM
Yeah, the promotion wasn't strong.

I know I found about it from Regis when he said he had a cameo as a Bum. I was hooked on the show right after that episode...

Tiger32
03-01-2007, 08:11 PM
Becker had a respectable six-year run, so I'm assuming the ratings were decent. I realize that the show doesn't have the status of other shows of the 90s and beyond..i.e...Seinfeld, Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens, Friends, Frasier, Will & Grace, etc. I ask myself why I missed the show during its original run, and quite honestly, I barely heard of it back then.

I know the show got moved a few times during the last year or so, which usually indicates a struggle to stay above water. Did CBS market the show correctly? Come next week, I will have seen all 129 episodes of Becker. I can't find anyone who watched the show, and I've asked plenty of people.

The talent was there, the laughs were there. I would think that Cheers/Ted Danson fans would have been interested in Becker. Superb writing, interesting characters...I just wonder why Becker wasn't more popular, even in syndication.

Thoughts?

Janice, you hit on some very interesting points. Certainly moving Becker to different nights did not help its ratings. I think a show needs to stay in one spot long enough to pick up a big following. Seinfeld's ratings were not very good the first couple of seasons. But putting it on Thursday night surrounded by other popular shows like ER, Friends etc. helped with the shows ratings. I think if CBS tried that same marketing strategy it would have been more successful. I think Ted Danson's prior fame may have hurt the ratings as well. Most people remember Ted Danson from Cheers, and were unwilling to associate him with anything else. Let's face it to some people Ted Danson will always be Sam Malone from Cheers. I was relunctant to watch Becker for that reason, but thank God for syndication, because I got hooked on the series in 2003, and have been a Becker fan ever since.

Sometimes things workout that way, look at the series Star Trek (The original series), it was not very popular during it's prime time run, but it became a huge success in syndication, so much so that it has inspired a couple of movies and a few spinoff series.

I think even I love Lucy was more popular in syndication then it was during its Network run.

I think Becker discovered a whole new audiance in syndication. People do not have to remember which night its on, because it is on every night on WGN at the same time. Once you are hooked, you do not want to miss a single episode. I wished I had watched it during its network run, but I am very happy that I discovered this show in syndication. I rate it as the greatest situation comedy of all time.

Janice
03-04-2007, 02:15 PM
Tiger, I never really thought about Danson's Sam Malone possible working against him, but that does make sense. He had such a hard act to follow, which was himself, lol.

I also agree about Becker in syndication. I think Becker will be around for many years to come. For me, it's not the best sitcom in history, but it's certainly in my top three, behind Seinfeld and Cheers. There are so many laugh out loud moments in those shows. I swear I can lose my breath from laughing at Becker sometimes, lol.

Tiger32
03-04-2007, 11:53 PM
Tiger, I never really thought about Danson's Sam Malone possible working against him, but that does make sense. He had such a hard act to follow, which was himself, lol.

I also agree about Becker in syndication. I think Becker will be around for many years to come. For me, it's not the best sitcom in history, but it's certainly in my top three, behind Seinfeld and Cheers. There are so many laugh out loud moments in those shows. I swear I can lose my breath from laughing at Becker sometimes, lol.

Janice I think we have similar taste when it comes to comedy, because I also loved Cheers and Seinfeld. But I really did not start watching Seinfeld until it was in syndication.

But what I like about Becker is that he does not try to be politically correct, instead he says whatever is on his mind. That is unusual for a sitcom, but it makes the character seem real.

snl 70s show fan
03-05-2007, 04:23 AM
i also think becker is underrated and like many of you here i never watched the show at all in first run only in reruns sam malone was a hard act to follow but ted danson managed to pull it off very well. in fact the only series that ted danson had that i didnt like was the one in between cheers and becker called ink .i hated that show

BensonFan
03-05-2007, 11:52 AM
I also think some people didn't want to view Ted Danson as anyone other than Sam Malone.

NASHMAN
03-07-2007, 02:05 PM
I think it was because Becker did not have alot of the publicity of many of the CBS show (Raymond, King Of Queens) plus most of the reasons why the show got canned is because Just Shoot Me got canned in 2003 during the summer. But I think Becker's role was pretty arrogant for Sam Malone but also he felt kindhearted.

Corolla
03-07-2007, 03:40 PM
Honestly I've never saw Becker advertised on TV, ever. I did watch it once, though.

TV Knowledge Fan
03-07-2007, 04:21 PM
...was not a very nice man- even for a situation comedy character. Funny, yes- but still, not someone you'd want to know intimately in real life. It's to Ted Danson's testament that he made Becker as "bearable" to most viewers as he did. However, "BECKER" was certainly more entertaining that the short-lived series that was on before it..."THE BRIAN BENBEN SHOW". While most people say "Huh?" if you ask about Benben, mention "BECKER" and they'll say, "oh, yeah, that other show Danson did".

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Tiger32
03-08-2007, 01:13 AM
...was not a very nice man- even for a situation comedy character. Funny, yes- but still, not someone you'd want to know intimately in real life. It's to Ted Danson's testament that he made Becker as "bearable" to most viewers as he did. However, "BECKER" was certainly more entertaining that the short-lived series that was on before it..."THE BRIAN BENBEN SHOW". While most people say "Huh?" if you ask about Benben, mention "BECKER" and they'll say, "oh, yeah, that other show Danson did".

:tv:

TV Knowledge Fan, I have watched the most popular sitcoms from every decade, to include reruns from the 50s and the 60s. And I have to say Becker is as good as any sitcom that I have seen. The writing is excellent, and the acting is even better. Becker was never suppose to be a nice guy, he is very opinionated, much like Archie Bunker from all in the family, but unlike Archie Bunker, Becker is not a racist. He treats everyone the same regardless of race, religion, sex etc. Eventhough Becker is abraisive at times, he has his compassionate side, like the time he dipped into his own savings account to pay for a treatment program for a HIV positive 7 year old. Also the time he goes out of his way to help an elderly lady who lost her son in 911.

Janice
03-08-2007, 02:03 AM
I actually think Becker was a nice guy. He was certainly a grouch, much like Ralph Kramden or Hayden Fox of Coach, but Becker had a heart of gold. He did his best to hide that fact, and he would deny it to the end, but he was a good, honest and reliable man. He was a loyal friend, who had loyal friends who were beside themselves when he got shot. Margaret and Linda were devoted employees, and most of his patients adored him, despite his offbeat bedside manner.

Becker's the guy who shelled out $1,500 in vet bills for a sick stray cat. There are numerous references to how he lets his patients slide on their bills. He visited a dying patient in the hospital every night for a week, with a round-trip train ride of two hours. He often pulled all-night hospital vigils for his sick and/or dying patients. The episode with Tom Poston having Parkinson's disease was heartbreaking. There wasn't anything that Becker wouldn't do for his patients.

Becker's a Harvard educated doctor who gave up a high-paying cushy job in research before setting up his own practice. He was offered another high-paying job at a prestigious hospital in another city, but opted to stay on as the Bronx neighborhood doctor who barely gets by himself, so he could help others.

He was a difficult and complex man who used coupons at Ming's; yet, as Tiger stated, paid for a young boy's medical care. There were many episodes which illustrated Becker's kindness. He was all bark and no bite. If you're looking for warm and fuzzy, John Becker isn't your man. However, if you're looking for help, he's there for those around him. He battled with his neighbors, delivery people, you name it -- the world basically got in Becker's way, but he always managed to make things right, when it really mattered.

Tiger32
03-08-2007, 09:14 AM
You are right Janice, I think Becker does the right thing when it matters most. Like the time he went all the way to Stanton Island (every night for 2 weeks) to visit a dying patient. He even read the Bible to this patient, and we know how much Becker hates religion. But he was willing to do this to comfort his patient.

He is always willing to go the extra mile to help his patients.

retrochick9
03-11-2007, 12:15 PM
I also think some people didn't want to view Ted Danson as anyone other than Sam Malone.
I'm sure everyone thought they couldn't see Ted Danson in another role, but, once you watch the show, you see absolutely no similarities at all. Sam Malone and John Becker are TOTALLY different characters, I don't think about Sam at all when I see John Becker.

Tiger32
03-11-2007, 06:03 PM
I'm sure everyone thought they couldn't see Ted Danson in another role, but, once you watch the show, you see absolutely no similarities at all. Sam Malone and John Becker are TOTALLY different characters, I don't think about Sam at all when I see John Becker.

Retrochick9, you are correct in your analysis of Becker and Sam Malone, they are 2 completely different characters. But unfortunately Human Nature factors into the equation, which leads to identifying an actor with a particular character. We see this illustrated very well with the cast of Seinfeld trying unsucessfully to star in other sitcoms. Julia Louis-Dreyfus was finally successful in her latest attempt, but she and other cast members were previously unsuccessful at breaking away from their roles that made them famous.

It seems that this type casting only applies to Sitcom actors. I am not sure why, maybe its because we get so used to the actor playing a role over a number of years.

What is funny, I no longer picture Ted Danson as Sam Malone anymore, whenever I hear Ted Danson's name, I immediately think of Becker.

retrochick9
03-12-2007, 10:45 PM
I also think of Becker now when I hear Ted Danson's name. I think it also helped that Ted Danson looked different in Becker. His hair was completely different (and it wasn't the main focus in his life like Sam, lol) and he dressed differently. I think that all helps. If people look the same and try to be another character, I don't think that works as well.

Tiger32
03-12-2007, 11:56 PM
I also think of Becker now when I hear Ted Danson's name. I think it also helped that Ted Danson looked different in Becker. His hair was completely different (and it wasn't the main focus in his life like Sam, lol) and he dressed differently. I think that all helps. If people look the same and try to be another character, I don't think that works as well.

Good point retrochick9, I think Ted Danson probably wore less makeup as Becker than as Sam Malone. The character "Becker" was closer to Ted Danson's real age (over 50), although Ted Danson still wore a hair piece and dyed his hair for the role. But you could clearly see that he has aged since the days when he played Sam Malone, and I think he is a much better actor now, then he was during those days.

Dusty's Fan
03-13-2007, 12:50 PM
I'm one of those people who became more of a fan from watching the series in syndication. But I do remember watching first-run episodes and I thought it was an interesting show. It's a very good series, and I think it fits in well for stations looking for shows to run in the late evening (or any time, for that matter).