First of all, a good friend and I were talking about this recently, and at the time I sort of agreed with her, but I've thought about it and now I hold a different opinion. Nancy has separated herself as much as possible from anything and everything regarding Jo (and please don't use her sporadic and brief interviews as evidence that she embraces FOL). I realize that she is a human being and that her decisions should be hers. The fact that the actors are not paid for interviews, etc. should not be an issue. First of all, it is the AUDIENCE, the PEOPLE who made FOL stay on the air. It was our commitment to the show. Without us, she would not have enjoyed nine seasons as Jo. It was our commitment that lead to her salary. So why shouldn't she extend the same courtesy back? The audience hgve NM a job for nearly ten years. Do you think she should extend the same courtesy back to those same audience members who still respect and admire her? (Again, please don't give me little examples here or there; I am talking about NM as opposed to the other three actresses). Does it not bother you in the least that she avoids (USUALLY) anything to do with FOL?

First of all, a good friend and I were talking about this recently, and at the time I sort of agreed with her, but I've thought about it and now I hold a different opinion. Nancy has separated herself as much as possible from anything and everything regarding Jo (and please don't use her sporadic and brief interviews as evidence that she embraces FOL). I realize that she is a human being and that her decisions should be hers. The fact that the actors are not paid for interviews, etc. should not be an issue. First of all, it is the AUDIENCE, the PEOPLE who made FOL stay on the air. It was our commitment to the show. Without us, she would not have enjoyed nine seasons as Jo. It was our commitment that lead to her salary. So why shouldn't she extend the same courtesy back? The audience hgve NM a job for nearly ten years. Do you think she should extend the same courtesy back to those same audience members who still respect and admire her? (Again, please don't give me little examples here or there; I am talking about NM as opposed to the other three actresses). Does it not bother you in the least that she avoids (USUALLY) anything to do with FOL?

You make very good points, I agree the decision should be hers whether or not she wants to still be associated with the FOL. It does not bother me that she sometimes avoids anything FOL related, I think it was a time in her life that she enjoyed and cherished but she realized she needed to move on from that role in order to move on to bigger things acting wise. IMHO she does not need to extend the courtesy back to the fans, her ability to play the role of Jo was what made the FOL a great show and that alone is enough for me. I think she is grateful for that time in her life during the FOL years but it's human nature to sometimes forget about the past and move on to the future. If that's what she chooses to do, I cannot get upset at her, I just know she did an amazing job playing Jo. You mentioned "without us fans she would not have enjoyed nine seasons playing Jo." I like to look at it as without Nancy McKeon and her Jo character we as fans would not have enjoyed nine seasons of the FOL.

On a side note, I sometimes think the reason she may resent her Jo character from the FOL is because it harmed her acting career in the sense that she was not able to land any roles in "big" movies because of her character on FOL. Similar to other actors from big shows that are simply just known for being that character on the show. When was the last time you saw Screech, Arnold, Greg Brady, Horshack etc. in a big name movie?

I think Nancy has worked very hard to move from the FOL image. You have to remember when FOL was on she did lots of interview and all the teen magazines giving interviews. I think it is great that she has other projects that she is proud of such as T. Thurman and Division and she doesn't just hold on to FOL. I just don't understand why she did the DVD interviews in May but she did not appear in the DVD disc interviews. I wonder now that she lives in TX (pt) and has 2 children and is married, she might not look at her career the same. I really hope she gets back into series tv or does something wonderful soon.

I agree with you, Anne.

I have a lot of respect for Nancy McKeon as an actress. I think that she is probably the greatest actress of her generation. I think that Nancy was great as Jo. I also thought she was really good in The Division.

I do not feel that Nancy is greatful for what The Facts of Life gave her and the many fans the show still has. I think that she wants as little to do with Facts as she possibly can. Where as Lisa, for example, seems to embrace the fame the show brought her as well as the fans. Part of the reason that Nancy might distance herself from "Facts" is that the Jo character will probably be the role that she is going to be remembered for. Even though she has had some post-"Facts" succses, none of these roles have been as popular as Jo onThe Facts of Life.

I understand why she acts the way she does about the Facts of Life, especially lately with me.

See, she is a brilliant actress. She has worked in many movies: Tracey Thurman, Strange Voices, Comfort and Joy, Baby Snatcher, etc. Then she has done other TV shows: The Division, Can't Hurry Love, and Style and Substance. But no matter what she does, all she hears about is Jo. She has worked so brilliantly in other projects, she doesn't get a lot of respect. No matter what she does, she's always known as Jo.

I understand what she means. In my situation, it's figure skating. I started figure skating in 1998. I stopped when I had seizures. I can continue if I want to, but I don't. I feel that part of my life is over. But there isn't one family event that I go to where it isn't mentioned. Relatives I haven't seen in a while don't think of me as Kelly. I'm Kelly the figure skater. I was good, but that part of my life is done. I want to get past it and go on to other things. I would be happy if I never heard those words again. It was fun, but it's over.

Just like Nancy McKeon, yes she had fun playing Jo, but she's not Jo anymore. Yes it may have boosted her career, but it's been off the air since 1988. That's all she's trying to show. She wants to be respected for her other work, not just one show she has done.

I hope I don't get bashed at for this post LOL I'm just trying to explain as best I can, because I do understand how she feels. Maybe this explaination can help everyone understand? Maybe not lol. She will always be Jo to us, but maybe we need to appreciate all of her work.:)

Honestly, I think you need to cut the woman a break. I've still never seen any actions from her that even suggest that she resents Facts. She's asked about it all the time in interviews that have nothing to do with FOL. She never seems to shut people down or tell people not to talk about it or refuse to talk about it. She answers whatever questions people have graciously and politely.

The difference between someone like Lisa and Nancy is that for Lisa it makes no difference if she is stereotyped and pigeonholed as Blair because she is no longer an actress. She's not still trying to work and get jobs and make a living in the acting profession.

The difference between Lisa and Nancy is just that Lisa seems to be a person who is much more comfortable putting her life and everything out there for all to see.

If you've ever noticed Kim sort of does the same thing. Yes, I know she did the Reunion movie or whatever, but if you ever see Kim asked about FOL in an interview not related to Facts she kind of clams up when people bring up Tootie. She doesn't always like talking about it and has even expressed some regret about choosing to do the reunion movie.

And while we're at it, Charlotte Rae was just on some "Whatever happened to..." Canadian program and she specifically came out and said she didn't do the DVD interview tour because they weren't being paid and they were making no money off the DVD's.

So therefore I don't see why someone who supposedly resents the show and all that it brought her would bother taking two days or so out of her life to make the interview rounds where she would do nothing but talk about the show 24/7. Kim and Charlotte didn't do it and I don't see anybody making a big deal about that.

Yes, I get she didn't do the reunion movie and sometimes doesn't do interviews. Anybody think maybe she's just a bit on the shy side and not as comfortable putting herself out there?

I don't know. Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but I think some people need to cut all these women a break. I'd understand if one of them had come forward and said something or done something negative against the show, but that hasn't happened.

They're just human.

You have all made really good points. And, believe it or not, I do agree with several of your comments. I am thinking about something else. I have never heard any unkind words about NM's personality or behavior. She does seem to be a pleasent and kind woman. Kelly makes a great point, but I was thinking about it in slightly different terms. Perhaps Nancy did not really enjoy her years on FOL. I am Kim's age, so I remember all the episodes first hand and I distinctly remember thinking that NM looked unhappy in many of her scenes, even the ones meant to be funny. To be fair to her, perhaps she was not happy at the time (either due to the show or to something more personal). Maybe she doesn't like to be reminded of it. I know her demeanor on the show was partly due to the type of character she played, but in so many scenes, she just looked unhappy, even when the character should have been happy. (Or maybe I just read too much into everything! Who knows?) :)

You have all made really good points. And, believe it or not, I do agree with several of your comments. I am thinking about something else. I have never heard any unkind words about NM's personality or behavior. She does seem to be a pleasent and kind woman. Kelly makes a great point, but I was thinking about it in slightly different terms. Perhaps Nancy did not really enjoy her years on FOL. I am Kim's age, so I remember all the episodes first hand and I distinctly remember thinking that NM looked unhappy in many of her scenes, even the ones meant to be funny. To be fair to her, perhaps she was not happy at the time (either due to the show or to something more personal). Maybe she doesn't like to be reminded of it. I know her demeanor on the show was partly due to the type of character she played, but in so many scenes, she just looked unhappy, even when the character should have been happy. (Or maybe I just read too much into everything! Who knows?) :)


That is an interesting observation, Anne. I'm not sure I agree with it though. Still, I respect your opinion.:) I don't think that Nancy came across as being unhappy on screen. The reason I really don't agree with it is because Nancy played Jo for eight seasons. If she had really been unhappy with the show and the character of Jo I don't think that she would have continued with it for so long. Of course, there is the possibility that Nancy was unhappy with something else besides the series. It isn't uncommon for teenagers to be unhappy and Nancy was a teenager during most of her time on the show. Still, she never seems unhappy onscreen to me, except for when she is supposed to, of course.

Anything onscreen is acting. If Nancy looked unhappy on screen, it's Jo that was unhappy. If Nancy were unhappy/bored etc. and that came through onscreen then she would not be a very good actress, would she?

It may have come accross that way on screen maybe because the character of Jo was not written to be a peachy happy go lucky character. She written as a tough girl from the Bronx who had to work hard to achieve success.

Just out of curiosity can you list some scenes from episodes where you think she was unhappy when her character should of been happy.

I think if she was actually unhappy about being on the show, then she showed a lot of dedication to her fans and the show by staying on.

I think we would all like her to be more like Lisa- willing to discuss the show at any moment- but I think it's great that she's past that. I think it shows maturity. And it's not like she's completely abandoned her fans. I think sometimes it's just a little frustrating when she's not seemingly appreciative or fails to acknowledge the show. So I don't know. Mixed feelings I guess.

Perhaps Nancy did not really enjoy her years on FOL. I am Kim's age, so I remember all the episodes first hand and I distinctly remember thinking that NM looked unhappy in many of her scenes, even the ones meant to be funny. To be fair to her, perhaps she was not happy at the time (either due to the show or to something more personal). Maybe she doesn't like to be reminded of it. I know her demeanor on the show was partly due to the type of character she played, but in so many scenes, she just looked unhappy, even when the character should have been happy. (Or maybe I just read too much into everything! Who knows?)

To suggest that Nancy McKeon somewhow allowed her own personal moods to be reflected in the character of Jo is not only to completely misinterpret the character, but certainly is an insult to Nancy McKeon.

Nancy was then, and still is today, heralded as an exceptional actor. If the "unhappiness" you sensed on-screen were anything other than the emotion that Nancy actually wanted to convey, the show's producers would have replaced her. Were what you are suggesting true, that is --allowing one's own personal mood to influence the portrayal of a character --it would reveal a serious acting deficit on the part of Nancy.

The character of Jo, more than any of the other girls, was usually even keel in her temperament. Her Bronx upbring made her a realist, one who looked at the world with a dose of skepticism. It is true that Jo didn't often laugh or smile unless it was in delivering an insult to Blair, but that was in keeping with her character.

OK, that's it. I stand by my original post. In my second post, I was trying to see things from Nancy's perspective. It was just an idea, that's it. Truth be told, I think she is ungrateful and unappreciative, but I DO think she is talented and I do think that overall she is a good person. OK??? This is just absurd. To those of you who I'm close to (you know who you are), please email me if you want. But I come here to share my opinions in a non-confrontational way. I was only trying very hard to think up some excuse as to why NM appears so ungrateful. Tear me down, that's your perogative. Truth be told, you're right. She IS a good actress, a very good actress. In all honesty, NO, I don't think she'd let her personal feelings get in the way of her acting. OK??? It was just a passing thought. I don't care why NM acts the way she does, but I still maintain that she is one of the most unappreciative persons I have ever seen (compare her, if you will, to MJF and "Family Ties"). And, before you start, I don't want to hear about isolated incidents here and there where MJF was unappreciative. I really like the character of Jo, I really like NM as an actress, but I do not like her actions and from the little I've seen, I don't like her either (perhaps I would if I actually knew her, who knows?). Look, post whatever you guys want. This is supposed to be fun, and it is not fun anymore. Mike, you know where to find me.

OK, I GET IT!!!! I AGREE SHE IS A GOOD ACTOR, I AGREE THAT SHE IS A PROFESSIONAL ACTOR (AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T LET HER PERSONAL FEELINGS INTERFERE WITH HER ACTING). IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT. CRUCIFY ME IF YOU WANT, BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT NANCY MCKEON IS APPRECIATIVE OR GRATEFUL IN ANY WAY. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER BEHAVIOR. I LIKE HER AS AN ACTRESS, I DO. BUT ALL THIS TIME YOU SPEND DEFENDING HER???? SHE DOESN'T CARE. SHE COULD NOT CARE LESS IF SHE TRIED. HER ACTIONS OVER THE PAST TWENTY YEARS SPEAKS VOLUMES. DO YOU HONESTLY AND ACTUALLY THINK SHE'D EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SUPPORT? DO YOU THINK THAT EVEN ONE IOTA OF HER CARES ABOUT WHAT ANY FOL FAN HAS TO SAY? DO YOU HONESTLY THINK SHE CARES????


To suggest that Nancy McKeon somewhow allowed her own personal moods to be reflected in the character of Jo is not only to completely misinterpret the character, but certainly is an insult to Nancy McKeon.

Nancy was then, and still is today, heralded as an exceptional actor. If the "unhappiness" you sensed on-screen were anything other than the emotion that Nancy actually wanted to convey, the show's producers would have replaced her. Were what you are suggesting true, that is --allowing one's own personal mood to influence the portrayal of a character --it would reveal a serious acting deficit on the part of Nancy.

The character of Jo, more than any of the other girls, was usually even keel in her temperament. Her Bronx upbring made her a realist, one who looked at the world with a dose of skepticism. It is true that Jo didn't often laugh or smile unless it was in delivering an insult to Blair, but that was in keeping with her character.

OK, that's it. I stand by my original post. In my second post, I was trying to see things from Nancy's perspective. It was just an idea, that's it. Truth be told, I think she is ungrateful and unappreciative, but I DO think she is talented and I do think that overall she is a good person. OK??? This is just absurd. To those of you who I'm close to (you know who you are), please email me if you want. But I come here to share my opinions in a non-confrontational way. I was only trying very hard to think up some excuse as to why NM appears so ungrateful. Tear me down, that's your perogative. Truth be told, you're right. She IS a good actress, a very good actress. In all honesty, NO, I don't think she'd let her personal feelings get in the way of her acting. OK??? It was just a passing thought. I don't care why NM acts the way she does, but I still maintain that she is one of the most unappreciative persons I have ever seen (compare her, if you will, to MJF and "Family Ties"). And, before you start, I don't want to hear about isolated incidents here and there where MJF was unappreciative. I really like the character of Jo, I really like NM as an actress, but I do not like her actions and from the little I've seen, I don't like her either (perhaps I would if I actually knew her, who knows?). Look, post whatever you guys want. This is supposed to be fun, and it is not fun anymore. Mike, you know where to find me.
The fact is I do think she's ungrateful a lot of the time. Many people have been typecast before a lot worst than Nancy. Nancy has continued to work pretty much since the FOL left the air. Their have been others that have had a hard time getting any work.

Don't let anybody drive you from the boards or ruin your enjoyment or discussing the FOL. Some times things get heated. Just ignore the ones that are being rude to you.

Nobody is insulting you. Rather saying they don't agree with your opinion. You put it out there and if you didn't expect people to respond with their own opinions, I'm not sure what you were expecting. People only to agree with you? Just as much of a right as you have to express your opinion, we have to express ours. Nobody is running you off the board or telling you to stop talking about your opinions.

You ask whether we honestly think Nancy would care about us or FOL fans? You do know she gets stopped on the street all the time still, right? I'm sure it's something that happens almost daily and I just remember reading a story recently (though I don't remember where) how a woman started crying when "Jo" came into a coffee shop. Nancy might have been taken aback, but was nothing but nice to this "fan". In fact I've never heard a story from a FOL fan, or anyone else for that matter, who has met her and said she wasn't nice or accomodating.

When she used to do Lifetime online chats during The Division days and people would come on and talk about Jo and FOL, she responded in kind about that.

You said you don't want to talk about isolated incidents, but I challenge you to tell me where she's ever said anything negative about the show (and again, not her appearance). What are these supposed incidents about how much she hates the show and her fans?

But do I honestly expect that Nancy takes an active interest in my life as a fan? Of course not. I do think she's probably glad there are fans out there who enjoy the show and her work on it though. But something tells me her priorites right now are on her family, as they should be.

Not to mention, shouldn't fans just be happy that she is starting to loosen up and make more appearances? Though not directly about FOL, she also did the MJF True Hollywood Story this year, in addition to the FOL interviews. Oh, and she appeared and helped present some sort of career award to Cloris Leachman this year (and was the only of the four to do so).

Sorry if you're offended, I just need more than skipping out on the pretty craptacular reunion movie as proof that she's some sort of horrible ungrateful person.

The fact is I do think she's ungrateful a lot of the time. Many people have been typecast before a lot worst than Nancy. Nancy has continued to work pretty much since the FOL left the air. Their have been others that have had a hard time getting any work.

Don't let anybody drive you from the boards or ruin your enjoyment or discussing the FOL. Some times things get heated. Just ignore the ones that are being rude to you.


I agree with a lot of stuff... 1. your original post (the a.d.a. guy) about nancy... i am usually the one getting screamed at becuase i talk about how she is not my favorite actress.... 2. you have to watch it on these boards becuase everyone (at least it feels that way) is nancy obsessed... they dont like it when their beloved character of jo or nancy is ridiculed in any way what-so-ever... so be careful in that regard ;) and 3. THANK YOU!!!!! You said exactly the same types of things i would have as well... yes, she's a great actress, but jeez, she needs to get over herself and just embrace the fact that FOL fans gave her a career in the first place... and to the above quoted board member who also said to just ignore the ones that are being rude... i often take things on this board with a grain of salt, being far from a worshiper of nancy really has you on your toes ;) and thanks for supporting the (a.d.a. guy) :)

Sorry, I'd also just would like to point out you don't have to worship Nancy to disagree. I certainly don't worship her and I couldn't disagree more.

I agree with a lot of stuff... 1. your original post (the a.d.a. guy) about nancy... i am usually the one getting screamed at becuase i talk about how she is not my favorite actress.... 2. you have to watch it on these boards becuase everyone (at least it feels that way) is nancy obsessed... they dont like it when their beloved character of jo or nancy is ridiculed in any way what-so-ever... so be careful in that regard ;) and 3. THANK YOU!!!!! You said exactly the same types of things i would have as well... yes, she's a great actress, but jeez, she needs to get over herself and just embrace the fact that FOL fans gave her a career in the first place... and to the above quoted board member who also said to just ignore the ones that are being rude... i often take things on this board with a grain of salt, being far from a worshiper of nancy really has you on your toes ;) and thanks for supporting the (a.d.a. guy) :)

Hi. I'm the A.D.A. guy (actually a girl!) and I agree with you so strongly. I came back on the board just now to write a pm and I saw your post. I am telling you, when I was a kid I WORSHIPPED Nancy McKeon and her character. I am Kim Fields' age and I just looked at Jo as a role model in many ways. I never in a million years would ever think I'd be saying this, but I just don't care for NM anymore. And it kind of shocks me because I used to like her and FOL and her early TV movies so much. I think she is a very talented actress, I would never deny that. Hoever, I think she is ungrateful. I think she is unappreciative. I think she thinks she's better, much better, than FOL. I think she looks at FOL as a stumbling block and not a stepping stone. I think she resents ever having gotten the part. I think she wants nothing AT ALL to do with the show in any way, but her manager likely told her that would alienate fans. SO she does as little as possible just to get by. I do not like her. I do not like her at all. Not in the least. As much as I used to love her, I dislike her now just as much. I would never watch anything she was in. I do not have any respect for her whatsoever. I simply have no respect for the woman.

Was I too blunt?

S. O'BRIEN: Yes, it's really, really nice. Tell me how the experience changed your career. Nancy, you're on a show now, you're a working actress. I mean, this is a critical launching point for you? Because a lot actors who I've spoken to have said the fame and notoriety from a show that's really successful actually hurts them to some degree.

MCKEON: You know, I think everything, you know, is cyclical and it can at some point, you know -- if you get so identified with one character and people are really attached to that character, it's kind of hard to -- for them to let you move on. You know, I have...

S. O'BRIEN: Do people say, "Hey, Jo"? They must.

MCKEON: Of course, of course. But you know, there's such a kindness about it, and a warmth about it. It was my first big show, and I have these life-long friends and I had a wonderful, wonderful time. And it was, you know, a starting point for me in a sense. I'd been working since I'm two, so it was many years after I started working. Yet people are so kind to me and allow me to keep moving on and branch out into other characters and other work. And I'm grateful for that, because, you know, I'm just privileged to be able to do what I do.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/10/ltm.03.html

Wow, sure sounds ungrateful to me...

I think some of you really need to cut Anne (A.D.A. Casey Novak) a little slack. :rolleyes:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/10/ltm.03.html

Wow, sure sounds ungrateful to me...

That's cool, Raya. However, do one little thing for me if you can and I don't mean this to be condescending at all. Have someone watch an interview or even five minutes of a TV show and write down the dialogue for you. And then do not watch the scene for one week. Just read the transcript. After this one-week experiment, watch the scene that was quoted. Does the clip sound like what you imagined in your head? There is such a big difference between the written and spoken word. For instance, people reading this might think I am brash and opinionated. :)

That's cool, Raya. However, do one little thing for me if you can and I don't mean this to be condescending at all. Have someone watch an interview or even five minutes of a TV show and write down the dialogue for you. And then do not watch the scene for one week. Just read the transcript. After this one-week experiment, watch the scene that was quoted. Does the clip sound like what you imagined in your head? There is such a big difference between the written and spoken word. For instance, people reading this might think I am brash and opinionated. :)

Honestly, I don't know what you mean by that. I've seen both the interview and written word in this case. I'm all too aware that things are different in both the spoken and visual mediums, but in a case where I've seen both I'm not seeing what is wrong with me providing transcript. I'd provide video, but it's no longer online.

My personal belief, and you are entitled to yours as well, is that it seems you are reading into things that aren't there. I'm all for reading between the lines, but sometimes there just isn't anything there to read between. What exactly is it that you are looking for her to say?

Honestly, I don't know what you mean by that. I've seen both the interview and written word in this case. I'm all too aware that things are different in both the spoken and visual mediums.

Hey, peace Raya. That's cool that you like her. Let's wrap things up though, OK? :)

Hey, peace Raya. That's cool that you like her. Let's wrap things up though, OK? :)

You asked a question and I answered it.

I'm not even close to what I would call this woman's biggest fan. I don't write fan mail and can't even say I've seen all of her movies. I enjoy FOL and her work in The Division. That's about it.

I would defend any of these women though if I don't agree with what was being said. So please don't paint me as obsessive NM fangirl or something.

But I'm done with this topic.

I certainly hope you didn't take offense to my reply Anne. I was just explaining my reasoning as to why I think she wanted to leave "Facts of Life" behind. Are we okay? :)

OK, I GET IT!!!! I AGREE SHE IS A GOOD ACTOR, I AGREE THAT SHE IS A PROFESSIONAL ACTOR (AND PROBABLY WOULDN'T LET HER PERSONAL FEELINGS INTERFERE WITH HER ACTING). IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT. CRUCIFY ME IF YOU WANT, BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT NANCY MCKEON IS APPRECIATIVE OR GRATEFUL IN ANY WAY. I DO NOT AGREE WITH HER BEHAVIOR. I LIKE HER AS AN ACTRESS, I DO. BUT ALL THIS TIME YOU SPEND DEFENDING HER???? SHE DOESN'T CARE. SHE COULD NOT CARE LESS IF SHE TRIED. HER ACTIONS OVER THE PAST TWENTY YEARS SPEAKS VOLUMES. DO YOU HONESTLY AND ACTUALLY THINK SHE'D EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SUPPORT? DO YOU THINK THAT EVEN ONE IOTA OF HER CARES ABOUT WHAT ANY FOL FAN HAS TO SAY? DO YOU HONESTLY THINK SHE CARES????

Allow me to clarify my point: I was defending Nancy Mckeon for her acting talent on-screen only. I do not believe that Nancy's personal emotions ever got in the way of her performing the character of Jo, to the best of her abilities.

Now, as to whether Nancy McKeon "cares" about the support and loyalty of the Facts of Life audience, I am not all concerned. Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. It's completely inconsequential to me. The Facts of Life ceased production nearly two decades ago. Nancy McKeon is no longer a teenager, but a 40 year old, married woman with a child. Life goes on! Personally, I am not of the thinking that she owes the public a lifetime of gratitude.

I certainly hope you didn't take offense to my reply Anne. I was just explaining my reasoning as to why I think she wanted to leave "Facts of Life" behind. Are we okay? :)

We're definitely cool, Kelly. :)

We're definitely cool, Kelly. :)
:)

I found this on the Lifetime chat regarding FOL:

bump126 asks: What was it like being on "The Facts of Life"?

nancy_mckeon: We had a lot of fun. The show was great for me. It was a great time of my life. And I'm just grateful that I had the opportunity to be able to be on a show with tremendous people, while I also got to learn a lot.

I think she has always been gracious regarding FOL.

AFTER I DO MY TRIVIA LATER, I WILL BE COMING BACK HERE. SO, GRAB YOUR :popcorn:,MAKE YOURSELF A SNACK, AND GRAB A 50 OUNCER OF THE BEVERAGE OF YOUR CHOICE. OH, AND DON'T FORGET THE OVERPRICED CANDY.

AND JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY, OR NOT, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU ARE;). THIS IS GONNA BE FUN. I WILL BE GOING DOWN THE THREAD, AND WILL BE SHARING MY OWN THOUGHTS AS THE REST OF YOU HAVE. I HAVEN'T DECIDED IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A DRAMA OR COMEDY YET. EH, YOU DECIDE. I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING. IT'S GONNA BE A LONNNNNNNNG NIGHT PEOPLE:D

JO jr IS BACK-WITH A VENGEANCE:mad:

First of all, a good friend and I were talking about this recently, and at the time I sort of agreed with her, but I've thought about it and now I hold a different opinion. Nancy has separated herself as much as possible from anything and everything regarding Jo (and please don't use her sporadic and brief interviews as evidence that she embraces FOL). I realize that she is a human being and that her decisions should be hers. The fact that the actors are not paid for interviews, etc. should not be an issue. First of all, it is the AUDIENCE, the PEOPLE who made FOL stay on the air. It was our commitment to the show. Without us, she would not have enjoyed nine seasons as Jo. It was our commitment that lead to her salary. So why shouldn't she extend the same courtesy back? The audience hgve NM a job for nearly ten years. Do you think she should extend the same courtesy back to those same audience members who still respect and admire her? (Again, please don't give me little examples here or there; I am talking about NM as opposed to the other three actresses). Does it not bother you in the least that she avoids (USUALLY) anything to do with FOL?

OK. HERE WE GO FOLKS. NOW LET ME SAY THIS AT THE OUTSET. WHAT I SAY IS MY OWN OPINION, BE IT SARCASTIC, FUNNY, OR AS SOME OF YOU WILL THINK, DOWN RIGHT RUDE. BUT, HEY, YOU ALL GOT YOUR CHANCE RIGHT? WELL, I'M TAKING MINE, ONE COMMENT AT A TIME.

AND I EXPECT TO BE GETTING SOME "HATE MAIL" OVER THIS. BUT THAT'S OK. I'M READY :boxing:

AND IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL...WELL, MAYBE JUST A TAD. HEY, I'VE ALWAYS STUCK UP FOR AND DEFENDED THOSE WHO COULDN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES, SO WHY SHOULD THIS BE ANY DIFFERENT RIGHT?

SO GRAB YOUR :popcorn: (BUT DON'T CHOKE) AND ENJOY...OR NOT. WHICH I THINK WILL BE THE CASE, WITH THOSE WHOM WILL FEEL I'VE OFFENDED THEM. OH, GET OVER IT:p:lol:

FIRST OFF, I WAS THE FRIEND CASEY WAS REFERRING TO, AND WHEN I READ THIS POST, I WAS LIKE, WHOA! WHERE DID THIS COME FROM, BECAUSE WE HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT 5 MINUTES EARLIER.

THEN I JUST KEPT ON READING A FEW MORE POSTS, AND I SWEAR WHAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS, MEEEEOW! "WOULD YOU GIRLS CARE FOR A BOWL OF MEOW MIX."

THEN, AS I READ MORE, I THOUGHT, OH, THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD! BUT THEN IT SEEMED THE THREAD STARTED TO GET A LITTLE TOO PERSONAL AND UGLY AS A WHOLE. I WANTED TO JUMP IN AT THAT POINT, BUT BECAUSE OF OTHER REASONS AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, I'D HOLD OFF FOR THE TIME BEING.

I GUESS SOME PEOPLE KNOWING ME PM'D ME AND WONDERED WHY I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING. SEE, I DON'T WANT THIS TO CAUSE ANY HARD FEELINGS BETWEEN ME AND OTHERS; BUT I KNOW ME, AND MY BIG MOUTH, AND MY PASSIONATE OPINIONS, AND I ALREADY KNOW THAT I WILL PROBABLY BE OFFENDING SOME OF YOU. OK, MAYBE A LOT OF YOU. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST FEEL THAT NEED TO VOICE MY OPINIONS ON THIS, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH ME OR NOT. AFTERALL, IF I SAT BY AND SAID NOTHING...WELL, THEN I WOULDN'T BE JO jr, THEN, WOULD I?


SO LET'S GO...OK, REGARDING NANCY MCKEON SEPARATING HERSELF FROM FACTS. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT NANCY WAS NOT IN THE FACTS REUNION MOVIE, AND THAT WHEN SHE SAID THE ONLY WAY SHE WOULD APPEAR IN IT IS IF SHE PLAYED A CORPSE AND DIRECTED IT:lol: I AM GLAD THAT ROUTE WASN'T TAKEN, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE AFFECTED MY PSYCHE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. AND LET'S FACE IT PEOPLE, I'M ALREADY "AFFECTED", ADDING MORE WOULDN'T HELP JO jr:crazy:

I DO UNDERSTAND HER REASONING FOR IT, HOWEVER, AND HAVE TO GIVE HER HER PROPS, IN THAT, LIKE JO, SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO KEPT HER WORD. THE GANG ALL MADE A "PACT" AFTER FACTS THAT THEY WOULD NOT DO A REUNION-TYPE MOVIE. THEOTHER REASONS SHE GAVE WAS DUE TO HER SCHEDULING CONFLICT ON "THE DIVISION". THE REUNION WAS SHOT IN CANADA AND STARTED 9/10/01:eek:, AND LASTED FOR 2 MONTHS. DOES ANYNE THINK SHE WOULD BE GIVEN OFF 2 MONTHS AT THE START OF THE NEW SERIES? SHE WAS A MAIN FIGURE, AFTERALL, NOT JUST COP # 7 AT THE STATIONHOUSE. ALSO, SHE SAID THAT SHE DOESN'T WATCH REUNION SHOWS, SO WHY WOULD SHE BE IN IT? LEGIT RIGHT? BESIDES, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WOULD'VE WON AN EMMY FOR IT. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE SCRIPT CULD'VE BEEN WAYYY BETTER. LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR FANFICS. NOW THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS. I KNOW YOU AGREE WITH ME PEOPLE-DON'T FIGHT IT! ANYWAY, LIKE I SAID IN A PRIOR POST, I COULDN'T CARE LESS IF ALIENS WERE IN THE REUNION MOVIE, CUZ I GOT TO SEE MY GIRLS:lol:

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. IT WAS NANCY'S DECISION, AND I HAVE TO RESPECT THAT.

NOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR NOT TO BE ABLE TO BRING UP THE DVD APPEARANCES, BECAUSE IT'S RELETIVE. HER CHARACTER IS BEING SCRUTINIZED, AND I THINK THE DVD PROMOS SHOWED US A PIECE OF NANCY'S TRUE COLORS.

SHE WAS GRACIOUS, FUNNY, ENGAGING. AND MAN, I BET EVERY SINGLE TRUE FACT FAN COULD NOT WAIT FOR THESE INTERVIEWS! AND WHEN WE WATCHED THEM, I KNOW WE ALL HAD A HUGE SMILE ON OUR FACE AND LISTENED TO EVERY WORD THAT THE GIRLS SAID. WE STUDIED WHAT THEY WORE, HOW THEY SPOKE (ACCENT, NO ACCENT?), HOW THEY WERE INTERACTING WITH ONE ANOTHER-EVERYTHING. THEY PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE FOR THE WORLD TO SEE, ONCE AGAIN, AS THE FACTS OF LIFE GIRLS. JO, NATALIE, BLAIR AND TOOTIE.

OOPS! WHAT WAS THAT? NO TOOTIE? HMMM. GUESS SHE WAS THE REAL REASON THERE WASN'T A COMPLETE "FACTS OF LIFE GIRLS REUNION". WHEN SHE HEARD SHE WASN'T GETTING PAID FOR ANY OF THE APPEARANCES OR ANYTHING ON THE DVD'S, SHE PROBABLY SAID, "MY MOMMA DIDN'T RAISE NO FOOL!" OF COURSE, SHE COULD HAVE HAD LEGIT REASONS FOR NOT SHOWING AS WELL. THAT WAS HER DECISION.

AND I THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL THAT NONE OF THESE GIRLS ARE GETTING PAID. THEY GOT AIRFAIR AND HOTEL. BIG DEAL! NANCY HAS A TODLER, LISA HAS KIDS, AND MINDY'S GOT SCOOBY-DOO! I AM SURE SONY DOES NOT HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT AFTER 25 + YEARS. THESE LADIES TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR PERSONAL LIVES, AND DISRUPTED THEIR OWN SCHEDULES, TO PROMOTE THE DVD'S. NOW YOU PLEASE TELL ME ONE SELFISH THING ABOUT THAT! I'M WAITING:rolleyes: IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WERE GAINING ANYTHING FOR DOING SEVERAL TALK SHOWS AND A RADIO APPEARANCE. YOU DON'T THINK THEY GOT TOGETHER PARTLY BECAUSE OF US FANS? I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO THIINK SO! A BIGGER PART WAS PROBABLY THEM GETTING TOGETHER AFTER SO LONG, AND KNOW THEY MISSED KIM TO. THAT'S FOR SURE.

OK. SO THEY'RE IN THE INTERVIEW, AND NANCY SAYS THAT PLAYING JO RUINED HER LIFE, AND SHE REGRETS EVER MAKING THE DECISION TO BE ON FACTS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID, RIGHT?! NO? THEN PLEASE TELL ME HOW DID MANY OF YOU DRAW THIS CONCLUSION ABOUT HER? IT IS JUST A FACT THAT NO ACTOR, I REPEAT, NO ACTOR WHO PLANS ON MAKING ACTING A CAREER CHOICE, WANTS TO BE PIGION HOLED.

THOSE ACTORS THAT WANT TO BE REMEMBERED FOR ONLY ONE ROLE PROBABLY ONLY HAD ONE ROLE, AND THEY'RE HANGING ON TO EVERY BIT OF FAME FROM THAT (THINK THE DUDE WHO PLAYED "SCREECH" ON "SAVED BY THE BELL". THAT TYPE. THEN, GOING THE OTHER WAY, IF ALL NANCY DID AT ANY INTERVIEW WERE TO BRING UP JO, THEN YOU'D ALL THINK? GEE, MOVE ON GIRL. GET A LIFE! WELL, THE THING IS, SHE HAS A LIFE, AND IT EXTENDS PAST THE FACTS OF LIFE, LIKE IT OR NOT.

I DID HEAR HER SAY, AS SHE DID IN THE 1981 INTERVIEW (AND BY THE WAY, PLEASE GO TO MY VIDEO THREAD AND SEE IT IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY), THAT SHE ENJOYED HER TIME ON FACTS, AND THAT EVERYONE WAS LOVELY TOWARD HER. ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE CAME IN ON THE SECOND SEASON, AND THEY WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED, AND A GROUP OF FRIENDS. I FOUND IT ALMOST AMAZING THAT NANCY SAID ALMOST THE SAME EXACT THING IN THE '81 INTERVIEW AS SHE DID ON THE FACTS DVD PROMO INTERVIEWS. SHE MADE SURE SHE ACKNOWLEDGED THE KINDNESSES OF THE GIRLS AGAIN, TOO. NOT ONCE DID I HEAR HER SOUND UNGRATEFUL FOR HER EXPERIENCE (UNLESS SHE'S TALKING ABOUT HER HAIR:lol:). BUT ON THE CONTRARY, I FOUND HER TO BE HUMBLE, AND LOVELY AND GRACIOUS. SHE ALSO MADE SURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER FANS, STATING THAT SHE IS GRATEFUL TO THEM FOR LETTING HER MOVE ON, AND ACCEPTING HER WORK IN OTHER PROJECTS. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A SNOB TO ME? DOES IT TO YOU? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IT DOES.:rolleyes:

YA KNOW WHAT I DON'T GET THOUGH? I DON'T SEE EVERYONE UP IN ARMS ABOUT KIM NOT SHOWING, OR CHARLOTTE RAE! WHY AREN'T PEOPLE ATTACKING THEIR CHARACTER? AND BY THE WAY, DID ANYONE SEE THIS DATING SHOW WHERE KIM SAYS OF THIS BLIND DATE, IF HE MENTIONS THE NAME TOOTIE, I'M OTTA HERE? WELL, GUESS WHAT? HE DID MENTION IT. SHE GOT SO UPSET BY THAT THAT SHE SAID SHE HAD TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, AND SHE NEVER CAME BACK TO THEIR TABLE. SHE JUST LEFT HIM HI AND DRY:eek: COURSE, HE WAS A BIT OF A WEENIE ANYWAY, SO GOOD FOR KIM;)

BUT...I COULD NEVER SEE NANCY MCKEON DOING THAT TO SOMEONE. OH YEA. I COULD SEE IT NOW. JO? DID YOU CALL ME JO? :boxing:WHAMO! AS SHE LAYS THE GUY OUT FROM ONE OF HER KARATE MOVES:lol:

OK, I'M DONE ON THIS ONE...NEXT...

You make very good points, I agree the decision should be hers whether or not she wants to still be associated with the FOL. It does not bother me that she sometimes avoids anything FOL related, I think it was a time in her life that she enjoyed and cherished but she realized she needed to move on from that role in order to move on to bigger things acting wise. IMHO she does not need to extend the courtesy back to the fans, her ability to play the role of Jo was what made the FOL a great show and that alone is enough for me. I think she is grateful for that time in her life during the FOL years but it's human nature to sometimes forget about the past and move on to the future. If that's what she chooses to do, I cannot get upset at her, I just know she did an amazing job playing Jo. You mentioned "without us fans she would not have enjoyed nine seasons playing Jo." I like to look at it as without Nancy McKeon and her Jo character we as fans would not have enjoyed nine seasons of the FOL.

On a side note, I sometimes think the reason she may resent her Jo character from the FOL is because it harmed her acting career in the sense that she was not able to land any roles in "big" movies because of her character on FOL. Similar to other actors from big shows that are simply just known for being that character on the show. When was the last time you saw Screech, Arnold, Greg Brady, Horshack etc. in a big name movie?


HEY HOSER. YA KNOW I AGREE WITH YOU ON SOME POINTS (BUT DIDN'T I SAY EARLIER THAT I USUALLY DO;)).

ANYWAY. I AGREE THAT IF IT WEREN'T FOR NANCY, THEN THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ALL THE FANS, IN TURN THE RATINGS. HOWEVER, I AM NOT SAYING SHE WAS THE ONLY REASON THE SHOW STAYED ON FOR NINE YEARS, ONLY EIGHT;) SHE CAME IN ON THE SECOND SEASON. IN FACT, I BET IF "JO" DIDN'T SCORE BIG WITH THE AUDIENCES, FACTS WOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED. IM SURE OF IT, BECAUSE SEASON ONE WAS TANKING.

THE TRUTH BE TOLD, JO WAS PROBABLY, NO I TAKE THAT BACK, JO WAS THE MOST BELOVED CHARACTER ON THAT SHOW. DON'T GET UPSET WITH ME NON-JO/NANCY PEOPLE. IT IS THE TRUTH. THE FAN MAIL PROVED THAT. I'D SAY IF YOU GOT AN AUTOGRAPH BACK FROM NANCY IN THE 80'S, CONSIDER YOURSELF ONE OF THE FEW, IN RATIO TO THE KIND OF FAN MAIL SHE WAS RECEIVING ON A WEEKLY BASIS! I KNOW I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE :(:lol:

REALLY THOUGH, WE ALL KNOW IT WAS THE ENSAMBLE OF THESE GIRLS THAT MADE THE SHOW AWESOME AND ENDEARING, BUT LET'S FACE IT, IT'S STILL NOT ON TODAY, AND THE RATINGS WERE NOT AS GOOD AT THE END AS THEY ONCE WERE. ALTHOUGH, THEY WERE STILL PRETTY DECENT OVERALL. BUT, DO I THINK THE SHOW LASTED AS LONG AS IT DID BECAUSE OF HER? YES I DO.

BUT, I WILL TRY TO PROVE MY POINT FURTHER ABOUT NANCY IN RELATION TO HER POPULARITY AND THE LONGEVITY OF THE SHOW.

I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT IF FACTS HAD HAD A SPIN-OFF WITH LISA, LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR A WHILE. I'M GUESSING AT LEAST TWO YEARS, IF THE WRITING WAS GOOD.

OK, NOW ADD JO ONTO THE SERIES. WHAT DO YOU THINK? IT WOULD LAST LONGER, THAT'S FOR SURE. MOST EVERYONE LOVED THE JO-BLAIR :boxing:

TO GO A STEP FURTHER, WHAT IF NANCY WAS OFFERED THE SPIN-OFF INSTEAD OF LISA SHE DECIDED IT DO IT? I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN A BIGGER HIT.

COULD YOU SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT NATALIE OR TOOTIE? WHAT ABOUT BEV ANN, OR ANDY? PIPPA? NO? HMMM.

NOW ABOUT NANCY RESENTING "JO" FOR INTERFERING WITH HER CAREER, AS IT WERE. I DON'T THINK THAT HAPPENED. SHE MADE SURE OF IT, AND I THINK SHE WAS SMART IN DOING SO. SHE WAS IN "THE TRACEY THURMAN MOVIE", WHICH SHE SAID, KNOCKED THE JO OUT OF HER FOR GOOD. (DON'T QUOTE ME ON THOSE EXACT WORDS THOUGH, PLEASE). SHE ALSO DID A VARIETY OF MOVIES, AND EVEN CARTOONS (I REMEMBER THE PUPPY'S GREAT ADVENTURE AS A KID). I TAKE THAT AS SOMETHING SHE HAD TO DO FOR HERSELF, NOT JUST TO SHAKE UP THE FANS. AFTER ALL, SHE DID PLAY THE SAME ROLE FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND JO HAD BECOME A PART OF HER. HOW COULD IT NOT? I WOULD THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ALL ACTORS ON A LONG RUNNING SERIES ENCOUNTER.

ALSO, WHILE SHE WAS ON FACTS, IT WAS NOTED THAT SHE WAS INTERESTED IN ALL ASPECTS OF FILM, THEREORE SHE LEARNED MANY THINGS ABOUT THE BUSINESS, INCLUDING DIRECTING, WRITING AND PRODUCING, WHICH SHE HAS USED TO HER BENEFIT, TO BE EVEN MORE OF A SUCCESS IN HER INDUSTRY. I THINK SHE WAS GRATEFUL FOR HER TIME ON FACTS IN THAT ASPECT, TOO.

FOR NANCY TO DIP HER FEET IN ANOTHER SERIES AFTER FACTS (CO-STARING MARISKA HARGITAY:cool:) WAS ALSO A GOOD MOVE. THE SERIES DIDN'T LAST LONG, AND NEITHER DID THE ONE WITH JEAN SMART, BUT AT LEAST THE GIRL TRIED. BESIDES, IT'S NOT ALL TOO OFTEN WHERE YOU GET TO BE ON A HIT SERIES FOR SO LONG AND JUMP INTO ANOTHER. IT IS DONE, BUT RARE! (I'M THINKING KELSEY GRAMMAR, AND THAT WAS WITH THE SAME CHARACTER, FRAZIER CRANE-19 YEARS-WOW!)

LASTLY, IT'S FUNNY YOU MENTION "SCREECH" IN THAT SENSE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT OF THE SAME THING, AND USED HIS EXAMPLE ON MY POST PRIOR TO THIS ONE.

(AND ON A PERSONAL NOTE, THE LAST TIME I SAW GREG BRADY? IN PERSON AT MIDWAY AIRPORT, IN CICERO IL. MY FRIENDS POINTED OUT IT WAS GREG BRADY AND AT FIRST SAID, NAWWW. THEN I LOOKED CLOSELY AND IT WAS!
HE WAS ON THE PHONE, SO STUPID ME GOES AND PRETENDS TO MAKE A PHONE CALL, AND ALL I KNOW IS HE WAS UPSET WITH SOMEONE. I "MAGICALLY" HUNG UP MY PHONE ABOUT THE SAME TIME HE DID, AND THEN INTRODUCED MYSELF, AND TOLD HIM I WAS A FAN OF HIS AND THE BRADY BUNCH. I SHOOK HIS HAND, AND I'M SURE I WAS SHAKING A LITTLE. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THOUGH, HE HAS GOT THE PRETTIEST GREEN EYES. I THINK I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT TOO. I DON'T REMEMBER MUCH, IT WAS ALL A BLUR. I KNOW. WHAT A WEENIE:lol:)

I think Nancy has worked very hard to move from the FOL image. You have to remember when FOL was on she did lots of interview and all the teen magazines giving interviews. I think it is great that she has other projects that she is proud of such as T. Thurman and Division and she doesn't just hold on to FOL. I just don't understand why she did the DVD interviews in May but she did not appear in the DVD disc interviews. I wonder now that she lives in TX (pt) and has 2 children and is married, she might not look at her career the same. I really hope she gets back into series tv or does something wonderful soon.


I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING CAVALIER. I TOO WONDER WHY SHE DIDN'T DO AN INTERVIEW FOR THE DVD, AND I REALLY WISH SHE HAD. BUT WHO KNOWS ABOUT FUTURE DVD'S.

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE NANCY THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, THINKING MAYBE THERE WAS A SCHEDULING CONFLICT OR MAYBE SOMETHING CAME UP IN HER FAMILY. WHO KNOWS. AND WHO KNOWS IF BY HER COMING TO NY TO PROMOTE THE DVD'S WASN'T HER WAY OF MAKING UP FOR IT SOMEHOW.

I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU PEOPLE, I RESPECT ALL THESE GIRLS, BECAUSE JUST LIKE HOW THE GIRLS IN THE FIRST SEASON WERE SHOCKED TO LEARN THEY DIDN'T HAVE A JOB ANY LONGER, THE SAME HAPPENED TO THE FAB 4.

THE TERMINATION OF THE SERIES, (LIKE I SAID, THE RATINGS WERE NOT THAT BAD) AND LISA'S SPINOFF CANCELLED AT THE LAST MINUTE TOO; AS WELL AS THE WAY THAT IT WAS HANDLED...WELL, I WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR SONY! ESPECIALLY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS THEY WANT TO USE ME TO PROMOTE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO MAKE THEM OODLES OF $, AND I WOULD NOT EVEN GET PAID FOR:mad: ALL I CAN SAY IS THEY MUST LOVE US FANS!:D

I agree with you, Anne.

I have a lot of respect for Nancy McKeon as an actress. I think that she is probably the greatest actress of her generation. I think that Nancy was great as Jo. I also thought she was really good in The Division.

I do not feel that Nancy is greatful for what The Facts of Life gave her and the many fans the show still has. I think that she wants as little to do with Facts as she possibly can. Where as Lisa, for example, seems to embrace the fame the show brought her as well as the fans. Part of the reason that Nancy might distance herself from "Facts" is that the Jo character will probably be the role that she is going to be remembered for. Even though she has had some post-"Facts" succses, none of these roles have been as popular as Jo onThe Facts of Life.


YOU AGREE:( THAT'S SAD:lol:

I THINK NANCY IS GRATEFUL FOR HER TIME ON FACTS LIKE I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, BUT I THINK BECAUSE SHE HAS CONTINUED TO ACT, SHE HAS MOVED ON FROM FACTS. BUT IT'S NOT ONLY HER, IT'S KIM, IT'S MINDY, IT'S CHARLOTTE, IT'S CLORIS, IT'S GEORGE. ALL OF THEM HAVE. LISA ISN'T IN THE BUSINESS ANYMORE, SO SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO LEAVE BLAIR BEHIND.

LISTEN, CHARLOTTE SAYS NO MATTER WHERE SHE GOES IN THE WORLD, SHE GETS RECOGNIZED AS MRS. GARRETT AND PEOPLE HUG HER.

WHEN NANCY HAS BEEN ASKED IF SHE GETS RECOGNIZED ON THE STREET STILL AS JO, SHE SAYS YES, AND THAT THE FANS ARE GREAT, AND ARE ALWAYS SO NICE TO HER. SHE DOESN'T SOUND BITTER TO ME, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD OF A STORY YET WHERE SHE KNEED SOMEONE FOR CALLING HER JO:lol:

I HAVE NEVER READ OR SEEN HER ON ANY OCCASION GET UPSET, OFFENDED, HUFFY OR PUFFY, WANT TO SLAP THE INTERVIEWER FOR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT JO OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT. (AND YOU KNOW THAT INEVITABLY THE FIRST QUESTION IS ALWAYS ABOUT FACTS. SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY GRACIOUS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST OF HER FANS KNOW HER MAINLY FOR HER WORK AS JO, BUT THAT SHE IS GRATFUL TO HER FANS FOR ACCEPTING HER OTHER WORK BESIDES.

I THINK SHE IS SINCERE IN THAT STATEMENT, BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, HER TRUE FANS HAVE EMBRACED HER OTHER WORK. AND...MAYBE, JUST MAYBE IF NANCY THOUGHT NO ONE COULD GET PAST HER AS JO, THEN THIS IS ALSO WHAT THE POWERS THAT BE WOULD LIKEWISE THINK, AND IT COULD'VE BEEN SLIM PICKENS. THIS HAPPENS MORE TIMES THAN YOU KNOW GUYS. BUT AGAIN, I GIVE NANCY CREDIT FOR DOING OTHER PROJECTS WHILE ON FACTS, AND SOON AFTER.

MAN, THAT GIRL WAS A WORKAHOLIC, WHEN YOU THINK OF IT:lol:

OK. HERE WE GO FOLKS. NOW LET ME SAY THIS AT THE OUTSET. WHAT I SAY IS MY OWN OPINION, BE IT SARCASTIC, FUNNY, OR AS SOME OF YOU WILL THINK, DOWN RIGHT RUDE. BUT, HEY, YOU ALL GOT YOUR CHANCE RIGHT? WELL, I'M TAKING MINE, ONE COMMENT AT A TIME.

AND I EXPECT TO BE GETTING SOME "HATE MAIL" OVER THIS. BUT THAT'S OK. I'M READY :boxing:

AND IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL...WELL, MAYBE JUST A TAD. HEY, I'VE ALWAYS STUCK UP FOR AND DEFENDED THOSE WHO COULDN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES, SO WHY SHOULD THIS BE ANY DIFFERENT RIGHT?

SO GRAB YOUR :popcorn: (BUT DON'T CHOKE) AND ENJOY...OR NOT. WHICH I THINK WILL BE THE CASE, WITH THOSE WHOM WILL FEEL I'VE OFFENDED THEM. OH, GET OVER IT:p:lol:

FIRST OFF, I WAS THE FRIEND CASEY WAS REFERRING TO, AND WHEN I READ THIS POST, I WAS LIKE, WHOA! WHERE DID THIS COME FROM, BECAUSE WE HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT 5 MINUTES EARLIER.

THEN I JUST KEPT ON READING A FEW MORE POSTS, AND I SWEAR WHAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS, MEEEEOW! "WOULD YOU GIRLS CARE FOR A BOWL OF MEOW MIX."

THEN, AS I READ MORE, I THOUGHT, OH, THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD! BUT THEN IT SEEMED THE THREAD STARTED TO GET A LITTLE TOO PERSONAL AND UGLY AS A WHOLE. I WANTED TO JUMP IN AT THAT POINT, BUT BECAUSE OF OTHER REASONS AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, I'D HOLD OFF FOR THE TIME BEING.

I GUESS SOME PEOPLE KNOWING ME PM'D ME AND WONDERED WHY I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING. SEE, I DON'T WANT THIS TO CAUSE ANY HARD FEELINGS BETWEEN ME AND OTHERS; BUT I KNOW ME, AND MY BIG MOUTH, AND MY PASSIONATE OPINIONS, AND I ALREADY KNOW THAT I WILL PROBABLY BE OFFENDING SOME OF YOU. OK, MAYBE A LOT OF YOU. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST FEEL THAT NEED TO VOICE MY OPINIONS ON THIS, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH ME OR NOT. AFTERALL, IF I SAT BY AND SAID NOTHING...WELL, THEN I WOULDN'T BE JO jr, THEN, WOULD I?


SO LET'S GO...OK, REGARDING NANCY MCKEON SEPARATING HERSELF FROM FACTS. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT NANCY WAS NOT IN THE FACTS REUNION MOVIE, AND THAT WHEN SHE SAID THE ONLY WAY SHE WOULD APPEAR IN IT IS IF SHE PLAYED A CORPSE AND DIRECTED IT:lol: I AM GLAD THAT ROUTE WASN'T TAKEN, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE AFFECTED MY PSYCHE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. AND LET'S FACE IT PEOPLE, I'M ALREADY "AFFECTED", ADDING MORE WOULDN'T HELP JO jr:crazy:

I DO UNDERSTAND HER REASONING FOR IT, HOWEVER, AND HAVE TO GIVE HER HER PROPS, IN THAT, LIKE JO, SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO KEPT HER WORD. THE GANG ALL MADE A "PACT" AFTER FACTS THAT THEY WOULD NOT DO A REUNION-TYPE MOVIE. THEOTHER REASONS SHE GAVE WAS DUE TO HER SCHEDULING CONFLICT ON "THE DIVISION". THE REUNION WAS SHOT IN CANADA AND STARTED 9/10/01:eek:, AND LASTED FOR 2 MONTHS. DOES ANYNE THINK SHE WOULD BE GIVEN OFF 2 MONTHS AT THE START OF THE NEW SERIES? SHE WAS A MAIN FIGURE, AFTERALL, NOT JUST COP # 7 AT THE STATIONHOUSE. ALSO, SHE SAID THAT SHE DOESN'T WATCH REUNION SHOWS, SO WHY WOULD SHE BE IN IT? LEGIT RIGHT? BESIDES, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WOULD'VE WON AN EMMY FOR IT. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THE SCRIPT CULD'VE BEEN WAYYY BETTER. LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR FANFICS. NOW THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS. I KNOW YOU AGREE WITH ME PEOPLE-DON'T FIGHT IT! ANYWAY, LIKE I SAID IN A PRIOR POST, I COULDN'T CARE LESS IF ALIENS WERE IN THE REUNION MOVIE, CUZ I GOT TO SEE MY GIRLS:lol:

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. IT WAS NANCY'S DECISION, AND I HAVE TO RESPECT THAT.

NOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR NOT TO BE ABLE TO BRING UP THE DVD APPEARANCES, BECAUSE IT'S RELETIVE. HER CHARACTER IS BEING SCRUTINIZED, AND I THINK THE DVD PROMOS SHOWED US A PIECE OF NANCY'S TRUE COLORS.

SHE WAS GRACIOUS, FUNNY, ENGAGING. AND MAN, I BET EVERY SINGLE TRUE FACT FAN COULD NOT WAIT FOR THESE INTERVIEWS! AND WHEN WE WATCHED THEM, I KNOW WE ALL HAD A HUGE SMILE ON OUR FACE AND LISTENED TO EVERY WORD THAT THE GIRLS SAID. WE STUDIED WHAT THEY WORE, HOW THEY SPOKE (ACCENT, NO ACCENT?), HOW THEY WERE INTERACTING WITH ONE ANOTHER-EVERYTHING. THEY PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE FOR THE WORLD TO SEE, ONCE AGAIN, AS THE FACTS OF LIFE GIRLS. JO, NATALIE, BLAIR AND TOOTIE.

OOPS! WHAT WAS THAT? NO TOOTIE? HMMM. GUESS SHE WAS THE REAL REASON THERE WASN'T A COMPLETE "FACTS OF LIFE GIRLS REUNION". WHEN SHE HEARD SHE WASN'T GETTING PAID FOR ANY OF THE APPEARANCES OR ANYTHING ON THE DVD'S, SHE PROBABLY SAID, "MY MOMMA DIDN'T RAISE NO FOOL!" OF COURSE, SHE COULD HAVE HAD LEGIT REASONS FOR NOT SHOWING AS WELL. THAT WAS HER DECISION.

AND I THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL THAT NONE OF THESE GIRLS ARE GETTING PAID. THEY GOT AIRFAIR AND HOTEL. BIG DEAL! NANCY HAS A TODLER, LISA HAS KIDS, AND MINDY'S GOT SCOOBY-DOO! I AM SURE SONY DOES NOT HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT AFTER 25 + YEARS. THESE LADIES TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR PERSONAL LIVES, AND DISRUPTED THEIR OWN SCHEDULES, TO PROMOTE THE DVD'S. NOW YOU PLEASE TELL ME ONE SELFISH THING ABOUT THAT! I'M WAITING:rolleyes: IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WERE GAINING ANYTHING FOR DOING SEVERAL TALK SHOWS AND A RADIO APPEARANCE. YOU DON'T THINK THEY GOT TOGETHER PARTLY BECAUSE OF US FANS? I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO THIINK SO! A BIGGER PART WAS PROBABLY THEM GETTING TOGETHER AFTER SO LONG, AND KNOW THEY MISSED KIM TO. THAT'S FOR SURE.

OK. SO THEY'RE IN THE INTERVIEW, AND NANCY SAYS THAT PLAYING JO RUINED HER LIFE, AND SHE REGRETS EVER MAKING THE DECISION TO BE ON FACTS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID, RIGHT?! NO? THEN PLEASE TELL ME HOW DID MANY OF YOU DRAW THIS CONCLUSION ABOUT HER? IT IS JUST A FACT THAT NO ACTOR, I REPEAT, NO ACTOR WHO PLANS ON MAKING ACTING A CAREER CHOICE, WANTS TO BE PIGION HOLED.

THOSE ACTORS THAT WANT TO BE REMEMBERED FOR ONLY ONE ROLE PROBABLY ONLY HAD ONE ROLE, AND THEY'RE HANGING ON TO EVERY BIT OF FAME FROM THAT (THINK THE DUDE WHO PLAYED "SCREECH" ON "SAVED BY THE BELL". THAT TYPE. THEN, GOING THE OTHER WAY, IF ALL NANCY DID AT ANY INTERVIEW WERE TO BRING UP JO, THEN YOU'D ALL THINK? GEE, MOVE ON GIRL. GET A LIFE! WELL, THE THING IS, SHE HAS A LIFE, AND IT EXTENDS PAST THE FACTS OF LIFE, LIKE IT OR NOT.

I DID HEAR HER SAY, AS SHE DID IN THE 1981 INTERVIEW (AND BY THE WAY, PLEASE GO TO MY VIDEO THREAD AND SEE IT IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY), THAT SHE ENJOYED HER TIME ON FACTS, AND THAT EVERYONE WAS LOVELY TOWARD HER. ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE CAME IN ON THE SECOND SEASON, AND THEY WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED, AND A GROUP OF FRIENDS. I FOUND IT ALMOST AMAZING THAT NANCY SAID ALMOST THE SAME EXACT THING IN THE '81 INTERVIEW AS SHE DID ON THE FACTS DVD PROMO INTERVIEWS. SHE MADE SURE SHE ACKNOWLEDGED THE KINDNESSES OF THE GIRLS AGAIN, TOO. NOT ONCE DID I HEAR HER SOUND UNGRATEFUL FOR HER EXPERIENCE (UNLESS SHE'S TALKING ABOUT HER HAIR:lol:). BUT ON THE CONTRARY, I FOUND HER TO BE HUMBLE, AND LOVELY AND GRACIOUS. SHE ALSO MADE SURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER FANS, STATING THAT SHE IS GRATEFUL TO THEM FOR LETTING HER MOVE ON, AND ACCEPTING HER WORK IN OTHER PROJECTS. DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A SNOB TO ME? DOES IT TO YOU? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE IT DOES.:rolleyes:

YA KNOW WHAT I DON'T GET THOUGH? I DON'T SEE EVERYONE UP IN ARMS ABOUT KIM NOT SHOWING, OR CHARLOTTE RAE! WHY AREN'T PEOPLE ATTACKING THEIR CHARACTER? AND BY THE WAY, DID ANYONE SEE THIS DATING SHOW WHERE KIM SAYS OF THIS BLIND DATE, IF HE MENTIONS THE NAME TOOTIE, I'M OTTA HERE? WELL, GUESS WHAT? HE DID MENTION IT. SHE GOT SO UPSET BY THAT THAT SHE SAID SHE HAD TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, AND SHE NEVER CAME BACK TO THEIR TABLE. SHE JUST LEFT HIM HI AND DRY:eek: COURSE, HE WAS A BIT OF A WEENIE ANYWAY, SO GOOD FOR KIM;)

BUT...I COULD NEVER SEE NANCY MCKEON DOING THAT TO SOMEONE. OH YEA. I COULD SEE IT NOW. JO? DID YOU CALL ME JO? :boxing:WHAMO! AS SHE LAYS THE GUY OUT FROM ONE OF HER KARATE MOVES:lol:

OK, I'M DONE ON THIS ONE...NEXT...
Excellent post Jo!!!!

I think all your points are legit, Jo jr. But I'm curious about your reference to her DVD interviews. In the DVDs that I purchased, there were only interviews with KF, MC and LW. None with NM.

I was thinking about something as I read all these posts. All we can do is speculate. The only person who knows how NM feels is NM. I've decided to take a more optimistic view of humanity. Therefore, I've changed my motto. Previously it was "most people suck", then it was "well, a lot of them suck but some suck worse than others" to my new motto: "maybe some people don't suck so bad if we give them a chance". Well, I'm trying to believe that anyway. To be honest, I still kind of think that people suck, but I'm trying very hard to change my viewpoint.

Jodi, all I can say is DAMN! :eek2: :faint: I've read books shorter than some of your posts. :lol: I guess that just shows your passion for "Facts" and that is one of the reasons I like ya so much. Still, I'm not sure I agree with what you say. I still think Nancy is unappreciative of her time on "Facts". I do respect your opinion and in no way take offense at your tearing my post apart. :lol:

I think all your points are legit, Jo jr. But I'm curious about your reference to her DVD interviews. In the DVDs that I purchased, there were only interviews with KF, MC and LW. None with NM.

I was thinking about something as I read all these posts. All we can do is speculate. The only person who knows how NM feels is NM. I've decided to take a more optimistic view of humanity. Therefore, I've changed my motto. Previously it was "most people suck", then it was "well, a lot of them suck but some suck worse than others" to my new motto: "maybe some people don't suck so bad if we give them a chance". Well, I'm trying to believe that anyway. To be honest, I still kind of think that people suck, but I'm trying very hard to change my viewpoint.


Anne, I think Jodi meant the publicity tour with Nancy, Lisa and Mindy. Because as you correctly pointed out, Nancy is not featured on the DVD interviews.

I've decided to take a more optimistic view of humanity. Therefore, I've changed my motto. Previously it was "most people suck", then it was "well, a lot of them suck but some suck worse than others" to my new motto: "maybe some people don't suck so bad if we give them a chance". Well, I'm trying to believe that anyway. To be honest, I still kind of think that people suck, but I'm trying very hard to change my viewpoint.


:lol: THAT'S THE SPIRIT;)

Excellent post Jo!!!!


:D WELL THANK YOU MY DEAR JINNYGIRL. IT JUST CAME FROM MY :heart:

Jodi, all I can say is DAMN! :eek2: :faint: I've read books shorter than some of your posts. :lol: I guess that just shows your passion for "Facts" and that is one of the reasons I like ya so much. Still, I'm not sure I agree with what you say. I still think Nancy is unappreciative of her time on "Facts". I do respect your opinion and in no way take offense at your tearing my post apart. :lol:


:rofl:

AND WHAT'S THIS?! ALL THE MUSKETEERS BACK HERE ONCE AGAIN? AH, THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME:D :kiss:

:rofl:

AND WHAT'S THIS?! ALL THE MUSKETEERS BACK HERE ONCE AGAIN? AH, THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME:D :kiss:


I was told that I could not leave because then there wouldn't be anyone to keep an eye on JO jr. :p :lol: ;)

I was told that I could not leave because then there wouldn't be anyone to keep an eye on JO jr. :p :lol: ;)
I certainly cannot do it by myself! :lol: ;)

I was told that I could not leave because then there wouldn't be anyone to keep an eye on JO jr. :p :lol: ;)


YOU KNOW THAT'S THE TRUTH:rotflmao:

I certainly cannot do it by myself! :lol: ;)


:caveman:

:lol:

YOU KNOW THAT'S THE TRUTH:rotflmao:

Not unless they want to pay me for it, anyway. After all, looking after a "boomerang bender" like JO jr is a full time job. ;) :lol: Oh yeah, keep the tag lines. :D

Jodi, all I can say is DAMN! :eek2: :faint: I've read books shorter than some of your posts. :lol: I guess that just shows your passion for "Facts" and that is one of the reasons I like ya so much. Still, I'm not sure I agree with what you say. I still think Nancy is unappreciative of her time on "Facts". I do respect your opinion and in no way take offense at your tearing my post apart. :lol:


I agree with you, Mike. And I'm glad you're not leaving. You've been here a long time and obviously have made quite a few friends. You should stay. I think I can guarentee that people here would miss you :). No matter what happens, you will NOT be the one to leave! So don't even think about it! :).
Last one hired, first one fired. That's the way it goes, my friend.

I agree with you, Mike. And I'm glad you're not leaving. You've been here a long time and obviously have made quite a few friends. You should stay. I think I can guarentee that people here would miss you :). No matter what happens, you will NOT be the one to leave! So don't even think about it! :).
Last one hired, first one fired. That's the way it goes, my friend.


Thanks Anne :) :wave: I hope that you will be staying too. :) You can't leave Kelly and I in the position to keep watch over the infamous JO jr all by ourselves. It is a three person job at least. ;) :lol:

Thanks Anne :) :wave: I hope that you will be staying too. :) You can't leave Kelly and I in the position to keep watch over the infamous JO jr all by ourselves. It is a three person job at least. ;) :lol:


:seeya: :stooges: YEA. LIKE YOU GUYS THINK YOU CAN CATCH AND TAME THIS "BOOMERANG BENDER":p (JO IS LOOKING UP "BOOMERANG BENDER" IN HER 'STRAILIAN=ENGLISH GLOSSARY OF TERMS):lol:

TO GO A STEP FURTHER, WHAT IF NANCY WAS OFFERED THE SPIN-OFF INSTEAD OF LISA SHE DECIDED IT DO IT? I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN A BIGGER HIT.



Nancy actually was offered the spinoff first, and when you think about it, that was a lot more plausible (education major Jo was going to return to Eastland as a teacher/housemother). But Nancy didn't want to continue as Jo, so the producers reworked the idea around Blair.

Also, don't blame Sony for the spinoff not going forward - that was NBC's decision.

I'm glad Nancy came to her senses and shown up for the OTHER Facts of Life Reunions.