TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 07:40 PM
True or False, Are Sandwiches on Long Rolls in NYC called HOAGIES??? Is the word Hoagie even seen in NYC?
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View Full Version : Brian Damage or any other member on here from NYC, I need confirmation on something TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 07:40 PM True or False, Are Sandwiches on Long Rolls in NYC called HOAGIES??? Is the word Hoagie even seen in NYC? Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 07:43 PM Just to let you know, I did some research on the net and it showed at least two places that sell HOAGIES in New York. Hoagie Haven I believe was one of the places. TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 07:45 PM Just to let you know, I did some research on the net and it showed at least two places that sell HOAGIES in New York. Hoagie Haven I believe was one of the places. Well maybe that just started I don't think in 1986/87 they had HOAGIES in NYC Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 07:47 PM Hoagie Haven, according to their owners, has been around for over 30 YEARS. Do you want their phone number? :lol: TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 07:48 PM Hoagie Haven, according to their owners, has been around for over 30 YEARS. Do you want their phone number? :lol: This didn't come from Wikipedia did it? And by the way I had no idea they had Hoagies in CA Corolla 02-22-2007, 07:49 PM This didn't come from Wikipedia did it? And by the way I had no idea they had Hoagies in CA Off-topic: Whats wrong with Wikipedia? Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 07:51 PM This didn't come from Wikipedia did it? And by the way I had no idea they had Hoagies in CA No, I found the place by searching the net, and there was a review by the New York Times regarding this place, so I searched using that place name and found the information. I don't go by Wikepedia. TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 07:54 PM Off-topic: Whats wrong with Wikipedia? A site with a lot of wrong information Corolla 02-22-2007, 08:03 PM A site with a lot of wrong information I know that it can be edited by anyone, but there is a lot of good information on Wikipedia too. Brian Damage 02-22-2007, 08:03 PM False, it is called a Hero. TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:08 PM False, it is called a Hero. Irene said it's a place Hoagie Haven in NYC and I was surprised Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 08:09 PM Irene said it's a place Hoagie Haven in NYC and I was surprised *Irene calling Hoagie Haven*:lol: Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 08:13 PM QUICK BITE/PRINCETON; An Old-School Sandwich Shop At midnight the town of Princeton is almost completely dead -- except at a sandwich shop a few blocks from the center, where the lights are on and the line is long. With foot-and-a-half hoagies, old photographs of university students that double as decor and a griddle that never stops sputtering, Hoagie Haven is indeed a late-night haven. It is a noontime haven too, judging from the business suits alongside the backpacks at the counter, where hoagies are the order of the day, every day. Words like ''with everything'' and ''whole'' are common here; it is one of the few places left where a $3 sandwich can contain the calories equivalent to a five-course meal. Cheese steaks, Italian hoagies (both $2.45 half, $4 whole) and the chicken and eggplant Parmigianias ($2.65 half, 4.50 whole) are favorites, the owners say. Also popular are omelet hoagies, which come in cheese, bacon, sausage or Western varieties. A faded sign vouches that they ''serve the best hamburgers on Earth or anyplace else.'' Owned by a pair of distantly related Greek immigrants, George Angeletopoulos and Gus Lyras, the Haven, as it is known to students, has been a staple of Nassau Street for 30 years. The two men have owned the shop for the past 13 or 14 years, by Mr. Lyras's calculation, and serve sandwiches with a staff of six, including his wife, Georgia, who helps with the lunch rush. For a smallish storefront with no seating, the shop does a serious business, each day slicing open 300 to 500 loaves of bread (bought fresh from the Italian Peoples' Bakery in Trenton each morning). Although the Haven will make hoagies to order, the menu hasn't changed in years and according to Mr. Lyras, isn't going to anytime soon. The customers, in business suits or with backpacks, aren't complaining, according to Mr. Lyras. ''They want the same thing all the time.'' Hoagie Haven, 242 Nassau Street, Princeton; (609) 921-7723. Open 9 to 1 a.m. daily. TJL 02-22-2007, 08:14 PM False, it is called a Hero. Agree with my fellow New Yorker. While there might be some shops (like Hoagie Heaven) who refer to them as hoagies, they are more commonly referred to as subs. Same goes for parts of New Jersey, well the parts I grew up in. Brian Damage 02-22-2007, 08:14 PM QUICK BITE/PRINCETON; An Old-School Sandwich Shop At midnight the town of Princeton is almost completely dead -- except at a sandwich shop a few blocks from the center, where the lights are on and the line is long. With foot-and-a-half hoagies, old photographs of university students that double as decor and a griddle that never stops sputtering, Hoagie Haven is indeed a late-night haven. It is a noontime haven too, judging from the business suits alongside the backpacks at the counter, where hoagies are the order of the day, every day. Words like ''with everything'' and ''whole'' are common here; it is one of the few places left where a $3 sandwich can contain the calories equivalent to a five-course meal. Cheese steaks, Italian hoagies (both $2.45 half, $4 whole) and the chicken and eggplant Parmigianias ($2.65 half, 4.50 whole) are favorites, the owners say. Also popular are omelet hoagies, which come in cheese, bacon, sausage or Western varieties. A faded sign vouches that they ''serve the best hamburgers on Earth or anyplace else.'' Owned by a pair of distantly related Greek immigrants, George Angeletopoulos and Gus Lyras, the Haven, as it is known to students, has been a staple of Nassau Street for 30 years. The two men have owned the shop for the past 13 or 14 years, by Mr. Lyras's calculation, and serve sandwiches with a staff of six, including his wife, Georgia, who helps with the lunch rush. For a smallish storefront with no seating, the shop does a serious business, each day slicing open 300 to 500 loaves of bread (bought fresh from the Italian Peoples' Bakery in Trenton each morning). Although the Haven will make hoagies to order, the menu hasn't changed in years and according to Mr. Lyras, isn't going to anytime soon. The customers, in business suits or with backpacks, aren't complaining, according to Mr. Lyras. ''They want the same thing all the time.'' Hoagie Haven, 242 Nassau Street, Princeton; (609) 921-7723. Open 9 to 1 a.m. daily. Princeton is near Philly TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:15 PM QUICK BITE/PRINCETON; An Old-School Sandwich Shop At midnight the town of Princeton is almost completely dead -- except at a sandwich shop a few blocks from the center, where the lights are on and the line is long. With foot-and-a-half hoagies, old photographs of university students that double as decor and a griddle that never stops sputtering, Hoagie Haven is indeed a late-night haven. It is a noontime haven too, judging from the business suits alongside the backpacks at the counter, where hoagies are the order of the day, every day. Words like ''with everything'' and ''whole'' are common here; it is one of the few places left where a $3 sandwich can contain the calories equivalent to a five-course meal. Cheese steaks, Italian hoagies (both $2.45 half, $4 whole) and the chicken and eggplant Parmigianias ($2.65 half, 4.50 whole) are favorites, the owners say. Also popular are omelet hoagies, which come in cheese, bacon, sausage or Western varieties. A faded sign vouches that they ''serve the best hamburgers on Earth or anyplace else.'' Owned by a pair of distantly related Greek immigrants, George Angeletopoulos and Gus Lyras, the Haven, as it is known to students, has been a staple of Nassau Street for 30 years. The two men have owned the shop for the past 13 or 14 years, by Mr. Lyras's calculation, and serve sandwiches with a staff of six, including his wife, Georgia, who helps with the lunch rush. For a smallish storefront with no seating, the shop does a serious business, each day slicing open 300 to 500 loaves of bread (bought fresh from the Italian Peoples' Bakery in Trenton each morning). Although the Haven will make hoagies to order, the menu hasn't changed in years and according to Mr. Lyras, isn't going to anytime soon. The customers, in business suits or with backpacks, aren't complaining, according to Mr. Lyras. ''They want the same thing all the time.'' Hoagie Haven, 242 Nassau Street, Princeton; (609) 921-7723. Open 9 to 1 a.m. daily. That's New Jersey Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 08:16 PM AW F*CK!!!!! :rofl: TJL 02-22-2007, 08:16 PM Princeton is near Philly Yes, lots of NJ towns closer to Philly/Pennsylvania refer to them as hoagies, like my sister's town, Hamilton. TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:17 PM Princeton is near Philly Thanks, Brian-LOL 609 is SOUTH JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:18 PM AW F*CK!!!!! :rofl: Well Irene my Post is CORRECT, it was a GOOF!!!!!!!!! Jo_Luvs_Ketchup 02-22-2007, 08:18 PM Weren't they always called hoagies?:confused: :lol: Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 08:20 PM :rofl: Solomon, you take the cake. Subs, hoagies, heroes, etc. Basically a long piece of bread with meats, cheeses, and other fattening stuff in them. :lol: TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:24 PM :rofl: Solomon, you take the cake. Subs, hoagies, heroes, etc. Basically a long piece of bread with meats, cheeses, and other fattening stuff in them. :lol: But Bill Cosby put that in the script himself because he is from Philly and that's what made it a Goof because you can't pick up Hoagies in NYC. By the way Hoagies are a lot different than HEROES/Subs, the look and taste is different phoebe7165 02-22-2007, 08:32 PM Damn people, stop talking about hoagies!!!!:D I grew up in S.Jersey and that is one of the things I truly miss living in the south! Whenever I'm up in that area, I always stop by a place called Larry's, and they make the best hoagies. TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:34 PM Damn people, stop talking about hoagies!!!!:D I grew up in S.Jersey and that is one of the things I truly miss living in the south! Whenever I'm up in that area, I always stop by a place called Larry's, and they make the best hoagies. No Hoagies in Florida??-lol Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 08:35 PM But Bill Cosby put that in the script himself because he is from Philly and that's what made it a Goof because you can't pick up Hoagies in NYC. By the way Hoagies are a lot different than HEROES/Subs, the look and taste is different They may not be called HOAGIES in NYC, but that is what he called them, so how can that be a goof? I mean, different people call things differently. He is from Philly so he knows them as Hoagies. Corolla 02-22-2007, 08:37 PM No Hoagies in Florida??-lol No hoagies in Newfoundland & Labrador either. :p Not that I've heard of. TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:37 PM They may not be called HOAGIES in NYC, but that is what he called them, so how can that be a goof? I mean, different people call things differently. He is from Philly so he knows them as Hoagies. It was a GOOF because he would have had to drive 2 hours from Brooklyn to Philly to get the Hoagies-lol phoebe7165 02-22-2007, 08:38 PM No Hoagies in Florida??-lol Not too many, they're mostly called subs. I do like going to a place here called Philly Connection, when I get a taste for cheesesteaks. Even Tastykakes taste different up north than down here. TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:40 PM Not too many, they're mostly called subs. I do like going to a place here called Philly Connection, when I get a taste for cheesesteaks. Even Tastykakes taste different up north than down here. Subs are so different from Hoagies. Subs are Big and WIDE and NASTY-lol Hoagies are smaller and the meat is nicely put in and they are gooooooooooooood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EmoJoe 02-22-2007, 08:41 PM i live an hour tops from NYC, and we call them subs here, LOL. big or small. Yooch 02-22-2007, 08:43 PM We called them heroes or subs, when I was a kid in Brooklyn and Northern Jersey--but I was familiar with the term hoagie (we just didn't call them that in my area). As others have said, it's more of a South Jersey, Philadelphia term. (Someone correct me on this, but to me, a hero had a hot filling, like meatballs or sausage, whereas subs were more cold cuts, cheese and so forth--Sorry if I'm making people hungry. Just talking about it is making me hungry too!) TVFactFan 02-22-2007, 08:49 PM We called them heroes or subs, when I was a kid in Brooklyn and Northern Jersey--but I was familiar with the term hoagie (we just didn't call them that in my area). As others have said, it's more of a South Jersey, Philadelphia term. (Someone correct me on this, but to me, a hero had a hot filling, like meatballs or sausage, whereas subs were more cold cuts, cheese and so forth--Sorry if I'm making people hungry. Just talking about it is making me hungry too!) Well you are not making me hungry because I already ate my dinner-lol I had a Subway Sandwich Corolla 02-22-2007, 08:50 PM i live an hour tops from NYC, and we call them subs here, LOL. big or small. I think we call them subs, too. Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 09:05 PM We called them heroes or subs, when I was a kid in Brooklyn and Northern Jersey--but I was familiar with the term hoagie (we just didn't call them that in my area). As others have said, it's more of a South Jersey, Philadelphia term. (Someone correct me on this, but to me, a hero had a hot filling, like meatballs or sausage, whereas subs were more cold cuts, cheese and so forth--Sorry if I'm making people hungry. Just talking about it is making me hungry too!) Gene, Gene...you are definitely making me hungry for a sub sandwich. But the weather is too cold right now for that. Instead I will have a PIZZA PIE!;) TJL 02-22-2007, 09:21 PM Someone correct me on this, but to me, a hero had a hot filling, like meatballs or sausage, whereas subs were more cold cuts, cheese and so forth-- I think it depends on what the particular restaurant wants to call it. The pizza place in NJ where my family ate for years referred to thier hot and cold sandwiches as subs. Brieannas21 02-22-2007, 10:53 PM There's a place in NY called Steak & Hoagies Yooch 02-22-2007, 10:59 PM Gene, Gene...you are definitely making me hungry for a sub sandwich. But the weather is too cold right now for that. Instead I will have a PIZZA PIE!;) Cold and rainy up here near San Jose, but a pizza sounds good! I also like the warm food when it's chilly outside. As for subs, if the ingredients and bread is fresh, they're awesome. (I'm glad Solomon already ate; I don't want him to get too hungry. ;) ) Brian Damage 02-22-2007, 11:01 PM There's a place in NY called Steak & Hoagies They must've been from Philly originally. LOL swedeace 02-22-2007, 11:02 PM I've seen the word "hoagie" used for those types of sandwiches, and I don't even live in NYC! Brieannas21 02-22-2007, 11:08 PM They must've been from Philly originally. LOL There's also Lyles Hoagies Limited and Hoagie Brothers both in NY Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 11:19 PM There's also Lyles Hoagies Limited and Hoagie Brothers both in NY See, I knew there were HOAGIES in NY. :lol: Brian Damage 02-22-2007, 11:20 PM There's also Lyles Hoagies Limited and Hoagie Brothers both in NY New Yorkers don't call anything Hoagies. It just isn't said. Brian Damage 02-22-2007, 11:25 PM There's also Lyles Hoagies Limited and Hoagie Brothers both in NY Both from Philly Brieannas21 02-22-2007, 11:32 PM Both from Philly Hoagie Brothers have a lot of places in NY Brian Damage 02-22-2007, 11:37 PM Hoagie Brothers have a lot of places in NY They are originally from Philly. Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 11:46 PM But the point is there is a hoagie place in New York and I am sure they have sandwiches with the name HOAGIE in them, therefore, when ordering the word HOAGIE will be used by some New Yorker. :lol: Number 9 Dream 02-22-2007, 11:50 PM Nope, not at all. I'm from Long Island and we call them heroes. Very, very rarely, someone will say sub. New Yorkers don't call anything Hoagies. It just isn't said. Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 11:51 PM Nope, not at all. I'm from Long Island and we call them heroes. Very, very rarely, someone will say sub. YOU'RE MY HERO LAUREN!!!!!:wave: :lol: Number 9 Dream 02-22-2007, 11:53 PM :lol: I think you've got me confused with Jack Nicholson's Lady (that's Lauren)....I'm Kristel. But I still love you, Irene :kiss: And thanks! :happyface YOU'RE MY HERO LAUREN!!!!!:wave: :lol: Ireneparalegal 02-22-2007, 11:57 PM :lol: I think you've got me confused with Jack Nicholson's Lady (that's Lauren)....I'm Kristel. But I still love you, Irene :kiss: And thanks! :happyface Damnit...my bad. I knew it was you. But I get the names confused! :crazy: :crazy: :lol: Number 9 Dream 02-23-2007, 12:00 AM Hehehe, it's ok, love :D :bighug: Damnit...my bad. I knew it was you. But I get the names confused! :crazy: :crazy: :lol: TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 01:42 AM Hoagie Brothers have a lot of places in NY Like Brian Said it originated from Philly and people in NYC still don't say Hoagie-lol TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 01:44 AM YOU'RE MY HERO LAUREN!!!!!:wave: :lol: Why is Kristi your Hero?-lol By they calling them SUBS still means they use tems other than HOAGIE-lol Heroes or Subs Brieannas21 02-23-2007, 01:46 AM Like Brian Said it originated from Philly and people in NYC still don't say Hoagie-lol Then why ask the damn question? TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 01:50 AM Then why ask the damn question? I wasn't really asking a question, I was confirming that the term HOAGIE was not really a NYC term. Brieannas21 02-23-2007, 01:52 AM I wasn't really asking a question, I was confirming that the term HOAGIE was not really a NYC term. Yes you did, You asked if it was even seen in NY and I gave you like 3 places that has the name and serve the sandwiches TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 01:56 AM Yes you did, You asked if it was even seen in NY and I gave you like 3 places that has the name and serve the sandwiches The Point of this Thread was to confirm that HOAGIE was not a term used in Brooklyn because of a Post I made on the Cosby Show Board and from talking to NYC members it was confirmed that people still refer to long sandwiches as HEROES or SUBS no matter how many stores they have in NYC with the word HOAGIE in the sign. I said that Cliff saying let's get some HOAGIES was something he put in the script because he was from Philadelphia which made it a GOOF Brieannas21 02-23-2007, 02:05 AM The Point of this Thread was to confirm that HOAGIE was not a term used in Brooklyn because of a Post I made on the Cosby Show Board and from talking to NYC members it was confirmed that people still refer to long sandwiches as HEROES or SUBS no matter how many stores they have in NYC with the word HOAGIE in the sign. I said that Cliff saying let's get some HOAGIES was something he put in the script because he was from Philadelphia which made it a GOOF I don't remember it ever said that Cliff grew up in NY. And you asked a question and got the answer, and yet there are deli's that use the term there. TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 02:10 AM I don't remember it ever said that Cliff grew up in NY. And you asked a question and got the answer, and yet there are deli's that use the term there. Brieanna, Brieanna, Brieanna, LOL I'm not talking about Cliff character growing up in NYC, I'm saying that the actor Bill Cosby put the term Hoagie in the script because he is from Philadelphia and that a Family growing up in Brooklyn would not say Hoagies Brieannas21 02-23-2007, 02:58 AM Brieanna, Brieanna, Brieanna, LOL I'm not talking about Cliff character growing up in NYC, I'm saying that the actor Bill Cosby put the term Hoagie in the script because he is from Philadelphia and that a Family growing up in Brooklyn would not say Hoagies You would if your parents grew up saying it or was from that state that said it. TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 10:55 AM You would if your parents grew up saying it or was from that state that said it. The point is the Huxtables were a BROOKLYN FAMILY and When I heard the HOAGIE term it was not consistent with the area. You got to be from PHILLY! gilligan fanatic 02-23-2007, 11:01 AM When ever I go to Pittsburgh I see the name Hoagie TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 11:28 AM When ever I go to Pittsburgh I see the name Hoagie Well that's probably because it's in the state of PA. Am i surprised to hear that since it's on the other side of the state Brieannas21 02-23-2007, 12:19 PM The point is the Huxtables were a BROOKLYN FAMILY and When I heard the HOAGIE term it was not consistent with the area. You got to be from PHILLY! Do you know everyone in Brooklyn? So you can't say what people would or wouldn't say. TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 12:31 PM Do you know everyone in Brooklyn? So you can't say what people would or wouldn't say. I went to college with several people from brooklyn Mr. Cranky 02-23-2007, 12:56 PM Sounds like a writer's mistake to me Solomon. Brieannas21 02-23-2007, 01:01 PM I went to college with several people from brooklyn From what I gather Brooklyn isn't a small city, and my point is you never know what people would or wouldn't say. I don't think you're grasping that concept. I'm gonna have to call and ask my dad or grandma tonight :lol: TVFactFan 02-23-2007, 01:06 PM From what I gather Brooklyn isn't a small city, and my point is you never know what people would or wouldn't say. I don't think you're grasping that concept. I'm gonna have to call and ask my dad or grandma tonight :lol: I'm about to forward you a email that I recieved from my female friend in brooklyn saying that in NYC they call them Heroes-lol Brieannas21 02-23-2007, 01:18 PM I'm about to forward you a email that I recieved from my female friend in brooklyn saying that in NYC they call them Heroes-lol You just don't pay attention, like a typical man. Do you get what I'm saying?? Are you even reading what I'm posting? |