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TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 07:40 PM
True or False, Are Sandwiches on Long Rolls in NYC called HOAGIES??? Is the word Hoagie even seen in NYC?

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 07:43 PM
Just to let you know, I did some research on the net and it showed at least two places that sell HOAGIES in New York. Hoagie Haven I believe was one of the places.

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 07:45 PM
Just to let you know, I did some research on the net and it showed at least two places that sell HOAGIES in New York. Hoagie Haven I believe was one of the places.


Well maybe that just started I don't think in 1986/87 they had HOAGIES in NYC

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 07:47 PM
Hoagie Haven, according to their owners, has been around for over 30 YEARS. Do you want their phone number? :lol:

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 07:48 PM
Hoagie Haven, according to their owners, has been around for over 30 YEARS. Do you want their phone number? :lol:


This didn't come from Wikipedia did it? And by the way I had no idea they had Hoagies in CA

Corolla
02-22-2007, 07:49 PM
This didn't come from Wikipedia did it? And by the way I had no idea they had Hoagies in CA
Off-topic: Whats wrong with Wikipedia?

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 07:51 PM
This didn't come from Wikipedia did it? And by the way I had no idea they had Hoagies in CA
No, I found the place by searching the net, and there was a review by the New York Times regarding this place, so I searched using that place name and found the information. I don't go by Wikepedia.

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 07:54 PM
Off-topic: Whats wrong with Wikipedia?


A site with a lot of wrong information

Corolla
02-22-2007, 08:03 PM
A site with a lot of wrong information
I know that it can be edited by anyone, but there is a lot of good information on Wikipedia too.

Brian Damage
02-22-2007, 08:03 PM
False, it is called a Hero.

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:08 PM
False, it is called a Hero.


Irene said it's a place Hoagie Haven in NYC and I was surprised

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 08:09 PM
Irene said it's a place Hoagie Haven in NYC and I was surprised
*Irene calling Hoagie Haven*:lol:

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 08:13 PM
QUICK BITE/PRINCETON; An Old-School Sandwich Shop
At midnight the town of Princeton is almost completely dead -- except at a sandwich shop a few blocks from the center, where the lights are on and the line is long. With foot-and-a-half hoagies, old photographs of university students that double as decor and a griddle that never stops sputtering, Hoagie Haven is indeed a late-night haven. It is a noontime haven too, judging from the business suits alongside the backpacks at the counter, where hoagies are the order of the day, every day. Words like ''with everything'' and ''whole'' are common here; it is one of the few places left where a $3 sandwich can contain the calories equivalent to a five-course meal. Cheese steaks, Italian hoagies (both $2.45 half, $4 whole) and the chicken and eggplant Parmigianias ($2.65 half, 4.50 whole) are favorites, the owners say. Also popular are omelet hoagies, which come in cheese, bacon, sausage or Western varieties. A faded sign vouches that they ''serve the best hamburgers on Earth or anyplace else.'' Owned by a pair of distantly related Greek immigrants, George Angeletopoulos and Gus Lyras, the Haven, as it is known to students, has been a staple of Nassau Street for 30 years. The two men have owned the shop for the past 13 or 14 years, by Mr. Lyras's calculation, and serve sandwiches with a staff of six, including his wife, Georgia, who helps with the lunch rush. For a smallish storefront with no seating, the shop does a serious business, each day slicing open 300 to 500 loaves of bread (bought fresh from the Italian Peoples' Bakery in Trenton each morning). Although the Haven will make hoagies to order, the menu hasn't changed in years and according to Mr. Lyras, isn't going to anytime soon. The customers, in business suits or with backpacks, aren't complaining, according to Mr. Lyras. ''They want the same thing all the time.''


Hoagie Haven, 242 Nassau Street, Princeton; (609) 921-7723. Open 9 to 1 a.m. daily.

TJL
02-22-2007, 08:14 PM
False, it is called a Hero.

Agree with my fellow New Yorker.

While there might be some shops (like Hoagie Heaven) who refer to them as hoagies, they are more commonly referred to as subs.

Same goes for parts of New Jersey, well the parts I grew up in.

Brian Damage
02-22-2007, 08:14 PM
QUICK BITE/PRINCETON; An Old-School Sandwich Shop
At midnight the town of Princeton is almost completely dead -- except at a sandwich shop a few blocks from the center, where the lights are on and the line is long. With foot-and-a-half hoagies, old photographs of university students that double as decor and a griddle that never stops sputtering, Hoagie Haven is indeed a late-night haven. It is a noontime haven too, judging from the business suits alongside the backpacks at the counter, where hoagies are the order of the day, every day. Words like ''with everything'' and ''whole'' are common here; it is one of the few places left where a $3 sandwich can contain the calories equivalent to a five-course meal. Cheese steaks, Italian hoagies (both $2.45 half, $4 whole) and the chicken and eggplant Parmigianias ($2.65 half, 4.50 whole) are favorites, the owners say. Also popular are omelet hoagies, which come in cheese, bacon, sausage or Western varieties. A faded sign vouches that they ''serve the best hamburgers on Earth or anyplace else.'' Owned by a pair of distantly related Greek immigrants, George Angeletopoulos and Gus Lyras, the Haven, as it is known to students, has been a staple of Nassau Street for 30 years. The two men have owned the shop for the past 13 or 14 years, by Mr. Lyras's calculation, and serve sandwiches with a staff of six, including his wife, Georgia, who helps with the lunch rush. For a smallish storefront with no seating, the shop does a serious business, each day slicing open 300 to 500 loaves of bread (bought fresh from the Italian Peoples' Bakery in Trenton each morning). Although the Haven will make hoagies to order, the menu hasn't changed in years and according to Mr. Lyras, isn't going to anytime soon. The customers, in business suits or with backpacks, aren't complaining, according to Mr. Lyras. ''They want the same thing all the time.''


Hoagie Haven, 242 Nassau Street, Princeton; (609) 921-7723. Open 9 to 1 a.m. daily.


Princeton is near Philly

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:15 PM
QUICK BITE/PRINCETON; An Old-School Sandwich Shop
At midnight the town of Princeton is almost completely dead -- except at a sandwich shop a few blocks from the center, where the lights are on and the line is long. With foot-and-a-half hoagies, old photographs of university students that double as decor and a griddle that never stops sputtering, Hoagie Haven is indeed a late-night haven. It is a noontime haven too, judging from the business suits alongside the backpacks at the counter, where hoagies are the order of the day, every day. Words like ''with everything'' and ''whole'' are common here; it is one of the few places left where a $3 sandwich can contain the calories equivalent to a five-course meal. Cheese steaks, Italian hoagies (both $2.45 half, $4 whole) and the chicken and eggplant Parmigianias ($2.65 half, 4.50 whole) are favorites, the owners say. Also popular are omelet hoagies, which come in cheese, bacon, sausage or Western varieties. A faded sign vouches that they ''serve the best hamburgers on Earth or anyplace else.'' Owned by a pair of distantly related Greek immigrants, George Angeletopoulos and Gus Lyras, the Haven, as it is known to students, has been a staple of Nassau Street for 30 years. The two men have owned the shop for the past 13 or 14 years, by Mr. Lyras's calculation, and serve sandwiches with a staff of six, including his wife, Georgia, who helps with the lunch rush. For a smallish storefront with no seating, the shop does a serious business, each day slicing open 300 to 500 loaves of bread (bought fresh from the Italian Peoples' Bakery in Trenton each morning). Although the Haven will make hoagies to order, the menu hasn't changed in years and according to Mr. Lyras, isn't going to anytime soon. The customers, in business suits or with backpacks, aren't complaining, according to Mr. Lyras. ''They want the same thing all the time.''


Hoagie Haven, 242 Nassau Street, Princeton; (609) 921-7723. Open 9 to 1 a.m. daily.


That's New Jersey

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 08:16 PM
AW F*CK!!!!! :rofl:

TJL
02-22-2007, 08:16 PM
Princeton is near Philly


Yes, lots of NJ towns closer to Philly/Pennsylvania refer to them as hoagies, like my sister's town, Hamilton.

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:17 PM
Princeton is near Philly


Thanks, Brian-LOL 609 is SOUTH JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:18 PM
AW F*CK!!!!! :rofl:


Well Irene my Post is CORRECT, it was a GOOF!!!!!!!!!

Jo_Luvs_Ketchup
02-22-2007, 08:18 PM
Weren't they always called hoagies?:confused: :lol:

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 08:20 PM
:rofl: Solomon, you take the cake.

Subs, hoagies, heroes, etc. Basically a long piece of bread with meats, cheeses, and other fattening stuff in them. :lol:

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:24 PM
:rofl: Solomon, you take the cake.

Subs, hoagies, heroes, etc. Basically a long piece of bread with meats, cheeses, and other fattening stuff in them. :lol:



But Bill Cosby put that in the script himself because he is from Philly and that's what made it a Goof because you can't pick up Hoagies in NYC. By the way Hoagies are a lot different than HEROES/Subs, the look and taste is different

phoebe7165
02-22-2007, 08:32 PM
Damn people, stop talking about hoagies!!!!:D

I grew up in S.Jersey and that is one of the things I truly miss living in the south! Whenever I'm up in that area, I always stop by a place called Larry's, and they make the best hoagies.

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:34 PM
Damn people, stop talking about hoagies!!!!:D

I grew up in S.Jersey and that is one of the things I truly miss living in the south! Whenever I'm up in that area, I always stop by a place called Larry's, and they make the best hoagies.


No Hoagies in Florida??-lol

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 08:35 PM
But Bill Cosby put that in the script himself because he is from Philly and that's what made it a Goof because you can't pick up Hoagies in NYC. By the way Hoagies are a lot different than HEROES/Subs, the look and taste is different
They may not be called HOAGIES in NYC, but that is what he called them, so how can that be a goof? I mean, different people call things differently. He is from Philly so he knows them as Hoagies.

Corolla
02-22-2007, 08:37 PM
No Hoagies in Florida??-lol
No hoagies in Newfoundland & Labrador either. :p Not that I've heard of.

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:37 PM
They may not be called HOAGIES in NYC, but that is what he called them, so how can that be a goof? I mean, different people call things differently. He is from Philly so he knows them as Hoagies.


It was a GOOF because he would have had to drive 2 hours from Brooklyn to Philly to get the Hoagies-lol

phoebe7165
02-22-2007, 08:38 PM
No Hoagies in Florida??-lol

Not too many, they're mostly called subs. I do like going to a place here called Philly Connection, when I get a taste for cheesesteaks. Even Tastykakes taste different up north than down here.

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Not too many, they're mostly called subs. I do like going to a place here called Philly Connection, when I get a taste for cheesesteaks. Even Tastykakes taste different up north than down here.



Subs are so different from Hoagies. Subs are Big and WIDE and NASTY-lol Hoagies are smaller and the meat is nicely put in and they are gooooooooooooood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EmoJoe
02-22-2007, 08:41 PM
i live an hour tops from NYC, and we call them subs here, LOL. big or small.

Yooch
02-22-2007, 08:43 PM
We called them heroes or subs, when I was a kid in Brooklyn and Northern Jersey--but I was familiar with the term hoagie (we just didn't call them that in my area). As others have said, it's more of a South Jersey, Philadelphia term.

(Someone correct me on this, but to me, a hero had a hot filling, like meatballs or sausage, whereas subs were more cold cuts, cheese and so forth--Sorry if I'm making people hungry. Just talking about it is making me hungry too!)

TVFactFan
02-22-2007, 08:49 PM
We called them heroes or subs, when I was a kid in Brooklyn and Northern Jersey--but I was familiar with the term hoagie (we just didn't call them that in my area). As others have said, it's more of a South Jersey, Philadelphia term.

(Someone correct me on this, but to me, a hero had a hot filling, like meatballs or sausage, whereas subs were more cold cuts, cheese and so forth--Sorry if I'm making people hungry. Just talking about it is making me hungry too!)



Well you are not making me hungry because I already ate my dinner-lol I had a Subway Sandwich

Corolla
02-22-2007, 08:50 PM
i live an hour tops from NYC, and we call them subs here, LOL. big or small.
I think we call them subs, too.

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 09:05 PM
We called them heroes or subs, when I was a kid in Brooklyn and Northern Jersey--but I was familiar with the term hoagie (we just didn't call them that in my area). As others have said, it's more of a South Jersey, Philadelphia term.

(Someone correct me on this, but to me, a hero had a hot filling, like meatballs or sausage, whereas subs were more cold cuts, cheese and so forth--Sorry if I'm making people hungry. Just talking about it is making me hungry too!)
Gene, Gene...you are definitely making me hungry for a sub sandwich. But the weather is too cold right now for that. Instead I will have a PIZZA PIE!;)

TJL
02-22-2007, 09:21 PM
Someone correct me on this, but to me, a hero had a hot filling, like meatballs or sausage, whereas subs were more cold cuts, cheese and so forth--

I think it depends on what the particular restaurant wants to call it. The pizza place in NJ where my family ate for years referred to thier hot and cold sandwiches as subs.

Brieannas21
02-22-2007, 10:53 PM
There's a place in NY called Steak & Hoagies

Yooch
02-22-2007, 10:59 PM
Gene, Gene...you are definitely making me hungry for a sub sandwich. But the weather is too cold right now for that. Instead I will have a PIZZA PIE!;)

Cold and rainy up here near San Jose, but a pizza sounds good! I also like the warm food when it's chilly outside.

As for subs, if the ingredients and bread is fresh, they're awesome.
(I'm glad Solomon already ate; I don't want him to get too hungry. ;) )

Brian Damage
02-22-2007, 11:01 PM
There's a place in NY called Steak & Hoagies


They must've been from Philly originally. LOL

swedeace
02-22-2007, 11:02 PM
I've seen the word "hoagie" used for those types of sandwiches, and I don't even live in NYC!

Brieannas21
02-22-2007, 11:08 PM
They must've been from Philly originally. LOL


There's also Lyles Hoagies Limited and Hoagie Brothers both in NY

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 11:19 PM
There's also Lyles Hoagies Limited and Hoagie Brothers both in NY
See, I knew there were HOAGIES in NY. :lol:

Brian Damage
02-22-2007, 11:20 PM
There's also Lyles Hoagies Limited and Hoagie Brothers both in NY


New Yorkers don't call anything Hoagies. It just isn't said.

Brian Damage
02-22-2007, 11:25 PM
There's also Lyles Hoagies Limited and Hoagie Brothers both in NY


Both from Philly

Brieannas21
02-22-2007, 11:32 PM
Both from Philly

Hoagie Brothers have a lot of places in NY

Brian Damage
02-22-2007, 11:37 PM
Hoagie Brothers have a lot of places in NY


They are originally from Philly.

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 11:46 PM
But the point is there is a hoagie place in New York and I am sure they have sandwiches with the name HOAGIE in them, therefore, when ordering the word HOAGIE will be used by some New Yorker. :lol:

Number 9 Dream
02-22-2007, 11:50 PM
Nope, not at all. I'm from Long Island and we call them heroes. Very, very rarely, someone will say sub.

New Yorkers don't call anything Hoagies. It just isn't said.

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 11:51 PM
Nope, not at all. I'm from Long Island and we call them heroes. Very, very rarely, someone will say sub.
YOU'RE MY HERO LAUREN!!!!!:wave: :lol:

Number 9 Dream
02-22-2007, 11:53 PM
:lol: I think you've got me confused with Jack Nicholson's Lady (that's Lauren)....I'm Kristel. But I still love you, Irene :kiss: And thanks! :happyface

YOU'RE MY HERO LAUREN!!!!!:wave: :lol:

Ireneparalegal
02-22-2007, 11:57 PM
:lol: I think you've got me confused with Jack Nicholson's Lady (that's Lauren)....I'm Kristel. But I still love you, Irene :kiss: And thanks! :happyface
Damnit...my bad. I knew it was you. But I get the names confused! :crazy: :crazy: :lol:

Number 9 Dream
02-23-2007, 12:00 AM
Hehehe, it's ok, love :D :bighug:

Damnit...my bad. I knew it was you. But I get the names confused! :crazy: :crazy: :lol:

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 01:42 AM
Hoagie Brothers have a lot of places in NY


Like Brian Said it originated from Philly and people in NYC still don't say Hoagie-lol

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 01:44 AM
YOU'RE MY HERO LAUREN!!!!!:wave: :lol:



Why is Kristi your Hero?-lol By they calling them SUBS still means they use tems other than HOAGIE-lol Heroes or Subs

Brieannas21
02-23-2007, 01:46 AM
Like Brian Said it originated from Philly and people in NYC still don't say Hoagie-lol


Then why ask the damn question?

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 01:50 AM
Then why ask the damn question?


I wasn't really asking a question, I was confirming that the term HOAGIE was not really a NYC term.

Brieannas21
02-23-2007, 01:52 AM
I wasn't really asking a question, I was confirming that the term HOAGIE was not really a NYC term.


Yes you did, You asked if it was even seen in NY and I gave you like 3 places that has the name and serve the sandwiches

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 01:56 AM
Yes you did, You asked if it was even seen in NY and I gave you like 3 places that has the name and serve the sandwiches


The Point of this Thread was to confirm that HOAGIE was not a term used in Brooklyn because of a Post I made on the Cosby Show Board and from talking to NYC members it was confirmed that people still refer to long sandwiches as HEROES or SUBS no matter how many stores they have in NYC with the word HOAGIE in the sign. I said that Cliff saying let's get some HOAGIES was something he put in the script because he was from Philadelphia which made it a GOOF

Brieannas21
02-23-2007, 02:05 AM
The Point of this Thread was to confirm that HOAGIE was not a term used in Brooklyn because of a Post I made on the Cosby Show Board and from talking to NYC members it was confirmed that people still refer to long sandwiches as HEROES or SUBS no matter how many stores they have in NYC with the word HOAGIE in the sign. I said that Cliff saying let's get some HOAGIES was something he put in the script because he was from Philadelphia which made it a GOOF

I don't remember it ever said that Cliff grew up in NY. And you asked a question and got the answer, and yet there are deli's that use the term there.

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 02:10 AM
I don't remember it ever said that Cliff grew up in NY. And you asked a question and got the answer, and yet there are deli's that use the term there.


Brieanna, Brieanna, Brieanna, LOL I'm not talking about Cliff character growing up in NYC, I'm saying that the actor Bill Cosby put the term Hoagie in the script because he is from Philadelphia and that a Family growing up in Brooklyn would not say Hoagies

Brieannas21
02-23-2007, 02:58 AM
Brieanna, Brieanna, Brieanna, LOL I'm not talking about Cliff character growing up in NYC, I'm saying that the actor Bill Cosby put the term Hoagie in the script because he is from Philadelphia and that a Family growing up in Brooklyn would not say Hoagies

You would if your parents grew up saying it or was from that state that said it.

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 10:55 AM
You would if your parents grew up saying it or was from that state that said it.


The point is the Huxtables were a BROOKLYN FAMILY and When I heard the HOAGIE term it was not consistent with the area. You got to be from PHILLY!

gilligan fanatic
02-23-2007, 11:01 AM
When ever I go to Pittsburgh I see the name Hoagie

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 11:28 AM
When ever I go to Pittsburgh I see the name Hoagie


Well that's probably because it's in the state of PA. Am i surprised to hear that since it's on the other side of the state

Brieannas21
02-23-2007, 12:19 PM
The point is the Huxtables were a BROOKLYN FAMILY and When I heard the HOAGIE term it was not consistent with the area. You got to be from PHILLY!


Do you know everyone in Brooklyn? So you can't say what people would or wouldn't say.

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 12:31 PM
Do you know everyone in Brooklyn? So you can't say what people would or wouldn't say.


I went to college with several people from brooklyn

Mr. Cranky
02-23-2007, 12:56 PM
Sounds like a writer's mistake to me Solomon.

Brieannas21
02-23-2007, 01:01 PM
I went to college with several people from brooklyn

From what I gather Brooklyn isn't a small city, and my point is you never know what people would or wouldn't say. I don't think you're grasping that concept. I'm gonna have to call and ask my dad or grandma tonight :lol:

TVFactFan
02-23-2007, 01:06 PM
From what I gather Brooklyn isn't a small city, and my point is you never know what people would or wouldn't say. I don't think you're grasping that concept. I'm gonna have to call and ask my dad or grandma tonight :lol:


I'm about to forward you a email that I recieved from my female friend in brooklyn saying that in NYC they call them Heroes-lol

Brieannas21
02-23-2007, 01:18 PM
I'm about to forward you a email that I recieved from my female friend in brooklyn saying that in NYC they call them Heroes-lol


You just don't pay attention, like a typical man. Do you get what I'm saying?? Are you even reading what I'm posting?