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vashti1999
01-09-2007, 04:51 PM
Ripken, Gwynn elected to Hall of Fame as McGwire falls far short

By RONALD BLUM, AP Baseball Writer
January 9, 2007

NEW YORK (AP) -- Mark McGwire fell far short in his first try for the Hall of Fame, picked by 23.5 percent of voters while Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken Jr. easily gained baseball's highest honor.

Tarnished by accusations of steroid use, McGwire appeared on 128 of a record 545 ballots in voting released Tuesday by the Baseball Writers' Association of America.

Ripken was picked by 537 voters and appeared on 98.53 percent of ballots to finish with the third-highest percentage behind Tom Seaver (98.84) and Nolan Ryan (98.79).

The former Baltimore Orioles shortstop said he was both relieved and euphoric. If he had been picked by two of the eight voters who didn't select him, he would have set the percentage record -- but he didn't mind.

"All I wanted to hear was, `You're in,"' Ripken said during a conference call. "I really didn't get caught up with wanting to be unanimous or wanting to be the most."

Gwynn received 532 votes for 97.61 percent, the seventh-highest ever, also trailing Ty Cobb, George Brett and Hank Aaron.

"It's an unbelievable feeling to know that people think that what you did was worthy," Gwynn said. "For me, it's kind of validation. The type of player that I was doesn't get a whole lot of credit in today's game."

Goose Gossage finished third with 388 votes, falling 21 shy of the necessary 409 for election. Jim Rice was fourth with 346, followed by Andre Dawson (309), Bert Blyleven (260), Lee Smith (217) and Jack Morris (202).

McGwire was ninth, followed by Tommy John (125) and Steve Garvey (115), who was in his final year of eligibility.

McGwire's dismal showing raises doubts about whether he will ever get elected -- players can appear on the BBWAA ballot for 15 years -- and whether the shadow of steroids will cost Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa and Rafael Palmeiro places in Cooperstown.

McGwire finished with 583 home runs, seventh on the career list, and hit 70 homers in 1998 to set the season record, a mark Bonds broke three years later. Gwynn was surprised McGwire received such a low percentage.

"I hope that as time goes on, that number will increase," Gwynn said. "I hope that one day he will get into the Hall of Fame, because I really believe he deserves it."

Ripken wouldn't give his opinion.

"I don't think it's my place to actually cast judgment," he said.

Jose Canseco, on the ballot for the first time, received six votes, well below the 5 percent threshold needed to stay on future ballots. In his book two years ago, Canseco accused McGwire and others of using steroids. The book's publication was quickly followed by a congressional hearing on steroids during which McGwire evaded questions, saying: "I'm not here to talk about the past."

Gwynn, who compiled 3,141 hits and a .338 batting average during his 20-year career with the San Diego Padres, said he was fidgety and nervous before he received the call from Jack O'Connell, the BBWAA secretary-treasurer.

"I broke down right away," he said. "My wife came over and put an arm around me."

Ripken played in a major league-record 2,632 consecutive games to break Lou Gehrig's ironman mark of 2,130, and set a new standard for shortstops with 431 home runs and 3,184 hits.

"I'm very proud of what the streak represents. Not that you were able to play in all those games, but that you showed up to play every single day," Ripken said last week.

Harold Baines, who received 29 votes, reached the 5 percent threshold. Bret Saberhagen got seven votes in his first appearance on the ballot and Ken Caminiti, who admitted using steroids during his career and died in 2004, received two.

Gwynn and Ripken raised to 43 the total of players elected in their first year of eligibility. That doesn't include Lou Gehrig (1939) and Roberto Clemente (1973), who were chosen in special elections.

Gwynn and Ripken each spent their entire major league career with one team, a rarity these days. They will be inducted during ceremonies held July 29 at the Hall in Cooperstown, N.Y., along with anyone elected from the Veterans Committee vote, which will be announced Feb. 27.

Ripken spent 21 seasons with Baltimore, hitting .276. A 19-time All-Star, he won the AL Rookie of the Year award in 1982, the AL MVP award in 1983 and 1991 and was a two-time Gold Glove shortstop.

Gwynn broke into the majors in 1982 and won eight batting titles to tie Honus Wagner's NL record. He made 15 All-Star teams and won five Gold Gloves as an outfielder.

TJL
01-09-2007, 06:04 PM
I would like to know who were the six idiots who voted for Jose Conseco.

McGuire will never get in. It's a shame that he recieved more votes than two great and respected players like Tommy John and Steve Garvey.

Ricky88
01-09-2007, 07:36 PM
The sad thing is that McGwire won't get in and Bonds will. It's a racial thing, you know it.

TJL
01-09-2007, 07:44 PM
The sad thing is that McGwire won't get in and Bonds will. It's a racial thing, you know it.


I don't think so. I think Bonds has made plenty of enemies in the press.

vashti1999
01-10-2007, 10:05 AM
I would like to know who were the six idiots who voted for Jose Conseco.



They were probably among the 13 (out of 545) that didn't vote for Gwynn and the 8 that didn't vote for Ripken.

canuckkidd
01-10-2007, 04:04 PM
The sad thing is that McGwire won't get in and Bonds will. It's a racial thing, you know it.

Pull out the race card, Bonds was doing great things way before he decided to shoot up. His numbers are much better then McGwire's numbers. Still the fact that he decided to use the "Clear" and the "Cream," he is also undeserving of going. The only way McGwire gets into the hall of fame is by buying a ticket. :)

Dr. Jazz
01-10-2007, 04:56 PM
Here's an excerpt from Buster Olney's column today about the Hall of Fame situation in regards to future inductees that I thought was an interesting read:



"The Baseball Writers have spoken. The precedent has been set. If there is suspicion that you've taken steroids, if you've been mentioned in a Jose Canseco book or you've gotten a congressional subpoena, this is apparently enough for most of the voters to issue their own version of a lifetime ban."

"So if you're one of the serious future Hall of Fame candidates -- in alphabetical order, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Tom Glavine, Juan Gonzalez, Trevor Hoffman, Derek Jeter, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez, Fred McGriff, Mike Mussina, Mike Piazza, Albert Pujols, Manny Ramirez, Mariano Rivera, Alex Rodriguez, Ivan Rodriguez, Curt Schilling, Gary Sheffield, John Smoltz, Sammy Sosa or Frank Thomas, and others -- you'd better hope that your name doesn't show up in Canseco's next book. If somebody's best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from a guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who believes they saw you pull a bottle full of steroids from a FedEx package at 31 Flavors, that might be enough to keep you from getting some Hall of Fame votes."

"Some of the voters will switch their vote from no to yes on Mark McGwire next year, viewing this year's ballot as a one-time penalty for his brutal performance in front of Congress on March 17, 2005. But it's evident that unless something changes dramatically, a large core of writers has determined that it will never vote for someone around whom the steroid controversy swirls. And in future years, there will be a guessing game."

womfalcs7
01-10-2007, 05:24 PM
23.5% is an embarrassment for McGwire, and it sends a strong message to all those who use steroids...mainly Bonds.