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Scoobiedoo30
12-24-2006, 01:50 PM
I dont know if this is True but can some please clear something up for me I heard some where that Andy and Frances nervery got along

cattano
02-01-2007, 01:59 PM
I've read that too, but I can't remember where.

Scoobiedoo30
02-01-2007, 03:12 PM
some body told me that they never got along from the start

snl 70s show fan
02-01-2007, 08:05 PM
ive read and heard that she really didnt get along with anyone in the cast at all . but even if thats true i still cant picture anyone else playing aunt bea

AB
02-01-2007, 08:30 PM
Watching them act together on the show, they seemed to get along but that
might have been just good acting.

Scoobiedoo30
02-01-2007, 08:35 PM
I know on the show it seem that Any and Frances got along

tdr
02-01-2007, 08:54 PM
As I understand, it wasn't so much that Andy G. and Frances B. didn't get along between themselves, but that Frances was very sensitive. She would be hurt, and sometimes want to give a short lecture to anyone who was rude or profane on the set. And Andy, not being the patient type, and the one who had final say, would frequently rip the actors or crew-- not really that unsual, but the overly-sensitive persons would take it too hard, and maybe lash back or refuse to cooperate.

I have read that in her final days Frances made a phone call to Andy, apologizing for "being so difficult for so long." Who knows?... maybe, like many theatrically-trained actors who wound up playing parts they considered below their potential, she never had a good attitude toward the Aunt Bee role, but still couldn't argue with the show's success. Anyway, it was a dominant personality versus a sensitive personality, so it was almost inevitable they would not 'get along' like buddies.

treky
02-03-2007, 01:34 AM
yes; that's what I've heard too. And I saw once on THE E! TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY when they were doing it about TAGS; and in one scene Howard Morris-Ernest T. Bass-was telling about something that happened once with an episode he was directing. (he directed some episodes)
He was directing her in a scene, and he said something to her that sounded mean, she took it the wrong way and just gave him a mean look and said "DON'T YOU EVER...SAY THAT TO ME AGAIN"!

Scoobiedoo30
02-03-2007, 02:00 AM
I do not remember The Andy Griffith Show True Hollywood Story

treky
02-03-2007, 02:50 AM
it was on about 4 years ago.

Scoobiedoo30
02-03-2007, 02:55 AM
Does E! Entertainment Televison have a E-mail ddress

caladon
02-03-2007, 06:59 PM
yes; that's what I've heard too. And I saw once on THE E! TRUE HOLLYWOOD STORY when they were doing it about TAGS; and in one scene Howard Morris-Ernest T. Bass-was telling about something that happened once with an episode he was directing. (he directed some episodes)
He was directing her in a scene, and he said something to her that sounded mean, she took it the wrong way and just gave him a mean look and said "DON'T YOU EVER...SAY THAT TO ME AGAIN"!

I remember seeing the segment with Howard Morris. They were about to shoot a scene, and he was addressing the actors as to what he wanted from them in their performances. He prefaced his directions with "Now I want you to listen good." All in all a pretty benign statement. It was at this point the Frances Bavier took offense at his remark. Howard Morris couldn't understand why she would get so upset and have that type or reaction.

I can only guess that given her sensititve nature, she probably viewed it as an insult, by inferring that she hadn't been or wasn't paying attention. Or perhaps she felt that that was a statement used on children and not an adult. No way to know for sure.

Scoobiedoo30
02-03-2007, 07:06 PM
what did Frances pass away from

Janice
02-04-2007, 01:30 AM
what did Frances pass away from
Frances died of a heart attack in 1989 at the age of 86.

Scoobiedoo30
02-04-2007, 01:37 AM
did Frances pass away befor they made Return to Mayberry

Mr. Television
02-04-2007, 01:42 AM
did Frances pass away befor they made Return to Mayberry
No she passed away after the movie but she was ill while they were filming it so they killed off Aunt Bea in the movie.

Scoobiedoo30
02-04-2007, 01:46 AM
Thanks for letting me know

treky
02-04-2007, 04:20 AM
RETURN TO MAYBERRY was made in 1986; so no; she wasn't dead. But in the movie Aunt Bee had died.

But; a bigger question is: was Ron Howard bald yet when he made that movie?:lol: :lol: :lol:

Because Opie wasn't. That's something that's been bugging me all these years.:lol:

Scoobiedoo30
02-05-2007, 03:15 AM
I think they must have recored her voice because if you remember RETURN TO MAYBERRY She did like a Voice over

treky
02-05-2007, 03:21 AM
yes; but I think it was a different voice though. I could be wrong; I haven't seen the movie in years.

Scoobiedoo30
02-05-2007, 01:15 PM
Iwonder How we can fine out if it was a Diffrent Voice or if it was Frances Voice

Ethelfan1993
05-03-2009, 04:50 PM
I don't know about that but I do know that they didn't get along. I also heard that she was a lesbian, does anyone know anything about that?

lalauver
05-03-2009, 05:34 PM
http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/b/Frances%20Bavier/frances_bavier.htm
this might help!

oldschool59
04-23-2011, 09:27 PM
I know some people who live in the town she lived in ( Siler City ) and they said she was almost hermit like when she was alive. They also said she was "mean" to most people and no one in the town liked her. Take that for what its worth but they have no reason to lie. This seems to jive with others opinions of her. She was not a nice person!

Dud Wash
05-05-2011, 12:24 PM
It was definitely a different actress doing Aunt Bees voice.

lucyandethel
08-19-2011, 01:29 AM
She supposedly called Andy before she died and apologized for her behavior towards him on the show. I think in real-life, she was sort of a "prudish" spinster who didn't care of the "salty" language Griffith was known to use on the set.

DJlaysitup
12-18-2011, 11:31 PM
I know some people who live in the town she lived in ( Siler City ) and they said she was almost hermit like when she was alive. They also said she was "mean" to most people and no one in the town liked her. Take that for what its worth but they have no reason to lie. This seems to jive with others opinions of her. She was not a nice person!

"Not a nice person" may be taking it a bit too far...but I remember the episodes when they wrote her character to be stubborn she seemed to be a natural at it - so I always figured that was close to her true personality.

I had a relative who was much the same - intelligent woman, but not very social. She was prone to arguing with friends/relatives and took the smallest little thing as a slight or an insult. A close friend could make a remark that they thought was just "advice" and she would not talk to the person for years. She ended up without many friends and lived alone independently for many years (except for the cats..who didn't talk back ;) ).

crispysdad
12-28-2011, 12:29 AM
What I had always heard, right or wrong, was that Frances fancied herself a Broadway actress, or at the very least that she belonged on the silver screen.

She considered the role to be beneath her. Thus the hostility. Kind of felt like she was "better" than everybody else on the set of TAGS. And it showed.

DJlaysitup
12-30-2011, 08:22 PM
What I had always heard, right or wrong, was that Frances fancied herself a Broadway actress, or at the very least that she belonged on the silver screen.

She considered the role to be beneath her. Thus the hostility. Kind of felt like she was "better" than everybody else on the set of TAGS. And it showed.

That sounds reasonable. I've picked her out in a few old movies, but they weren't "biggies" and she wasn't more than a character with a few lines if I remember right - not like she was in the Grapes of Wrath or something.

McGillicuddy
07-30-2013, 01:17 PM
As I understand, it wasn't so much that Andy G. and Frances B. didn't get along between themselves, but that Frances was very sensitive. She would be hurt, and sometimes want to give a short lecture to anyone who was rude or profane on the set. And Andy, not being the patient type, and the one who had final say, would frequently rip the actors or crew-- not really that unsual, but the overly-sensitive persons would take it too hard, and maybe lash back or refuse to cooperate.

I have read that in her final days Frances made a phone call to Andy, apologizing for "being so difficult for so long." Who knows?... maybe, like many theatrically-trained actors who wound up playing parts they considered below their potential, she never had a good attitude toward the Aunt Bee role, but still couldn't argue with the show's success. Anyway, it was a dominant personality versus a sensitive personality, so it was almost inevitable they would not 'get along' like buddies.
That's nice to know that Frances reached out to Andy before her death.

McGillicuddy
07-30-2013, 01:27 PM
It was definitely a different actress doing Aunt Bee's voice, when Andy's at the cemetery.
I just looked it up on imdb. That was not Frances' voice, it was voice actress, Janet Waldo, who played Jane Jetson on The Jetsons, among other cartoons. I remember it really didn't sound too much like Aunt Bee.