I'm not a big fan of this series as a whole, because I think it's a real comedown from "All in the Family". But anything with Carroll O'Connor is worth watching, so I'd like to see it again.

I'd especially like to see the first season episodes that Edith appeared in. The first season was the best, because a good deal of the AITF creative team was still involved (the director and quite a few of the writers and producers left after season 1). I only really remember the Thanksgiving episodes and the episode where Edith got a job working at a home for the mentally challenged. But they felt like they could have been AITF episodes.

And I really would like to see the two-part episode where Mike and Gloria visit at Thanksgiving. It was the last time the classic cast was together in character, and was the only time Mike and Gloria visited 704 Hauser St. together after they moved away.

I have the 2 parted and loved it. I with Jean would have statyed with the show, even if it was occasionally.

I think that if was a good idea that they killed off Edith in ABP. She wasn't as good on ABP as she was in AITF. She wasn't really a dingbat anymore, and she kind of turned into a guest star in the series. But I do think they if they replaced her with another actress, the character of Edith would be destroyed forever. I think that ABP just needed Archie and Stephanie, and did fine without Edith.

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I don't know about that. Edith's demise left a cloudy image on the set. It just seemed so gloomy.

I was a huge fan of AITF, but never saw ABP, and I've always wondered about Edith's death. I know she died from cancer. How did they play this out--was it over a few weeks? It must have been heartbreaking. I remember Archie's face when Gloria had a miscarriage and he was consoling her at her bedside, so I can only imagine his reaction to Edith dying. Carroll O'Connor could really evoke emotion from the audience.
I imagine there was a final deathbed scene with Edith and Archie--did Mike and Gloria return? Was the funeral shown?
This is just one of those things where I missed it the first time, have never seen it rerun, and it bugs the hell out of me. Anyone ambitious enough to fill in the blanks for me?
Thanks.

Wait- Edith didn't die from cancer. I think she had a stroke.

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I'd especially like to see the first season episodes that Edith appeared in. The first season was the best, because a good deal of the AITF creative team was still involved (the director and quite a few of the writers and producers left after season 1). I only really remember the Thanksgiving episodes and the episode where Edith got a job working at a home for the mentally challenged. But they felt like they could have been AITF episodes.

I totally agree about those Edith eps being like AITF shows. ABP was AITF. It was just changed around some. The action took place more so at the bar than at home and Edith did die of a Stroke.

Edith died of a stroke in her sleep in between the first and second seasons of "Archie Bunker's Place". The first episode of the second season took place about a month after her funeral, so we didn't see any death scene, or a return home by Mike and Gloria. The episode begins with Archie obviously refusing to deal with his grief, but he breaks down at the end of the episode when he finds Edith's slipper under the bed.

Thanks TV Guy for filling in the blanks for me. My memory failed me on the way Edith died. I wasn't aware that she died from a stroke. I recall her telling Gloria that she found a lump on her breast--perhaps that was an AITF episode. Maybe I dreamed it, lol. Anyway, thanks for giving me the deets.

The lump in the breast was an episode of All in the Family.

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Lumpy: Did you go out for anything, Dud?

Dudley: Well, I went out for football, but I got my finger stepped on, so my mother made me quit.

Eddie: Well listen-- I went out for basketball and I got my hair pulled, and my mother made ME quit.

Dudley: It's not that I was afraid of getting hurt or anything; it's just that-- well, it's kind o' hard to play the flute with a busted finger.

[Eddie and Lumpy suppress laughter]