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lilhave
12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Cop Had Black Men Rap to Avoid Ticket
By AMANDA LEE MYERS, AP

TEMPE, Ariz. (Dec. 2) - City leaders have apologized after a program on Tempe's cable channel showed a white police officer telling two black men they could get out of a littering ticket by performing a rap.


Tempe Mayor Hugh Hallman and Police Chief Tom Ryff apologized for the show Thursday and suspended its future production after black community leaders voiced outrage and disappointment.

"I accept responsibility for the actions of my staff and apologize to any members of our community who have been offended," Ryff said during a news conference Friday.

The segment appeared on "Tempe StreetBeat," a program produced by police in the Phoenix suburb that followed several officers on patrol. It shows Sgt. Chuck Schoville pulling over two men in August in a mall parking lot.

He first asks for a name and ID from the driver and then asks the two men if they know how much the fine is for littering.


The officer then tells the men that they can avoid getting a littering ticket "if the two of you just do a little rap about - what do you want to do a rap about? Littering? About the dangers of littering."

The two men agree, and each performs a short rap, laughing afterward. One says, "The dangers of littering, you will get a ticket. If you ain't wit' it, you better be experienced."

The second man raps, "Yo, I just got pulled over 'cause I threw my trash out the window when they rolled over. They got behind me and pulled me over."

Later, Schoville talks football with the men, one of whom agrees with his prediction that the Oakland Raiders will make it to the Super Bowl this year.

Schoville then says, "You know why you say I'm right? Because I got a gun and badge. I'm always right. That's the way it works, right?" The three laugh and the two men get in their car.

Leaders of chapters of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the National Action Network expressed outrage and demanded that the city act.


The Rev. Jarrett Maupin of the National Action Network, who was at Friday's news conference, said he had accepted Hallman's and Ryff's apologies and intends to make sure the police department makes good on a proposal for an African American advisory board and increased diversity training.

"It's important for police officers to realize that black people do not speak hip hop," Maupin said. "We're not all rappers and thugs and gangbangers. We speak the English language and we're entitled to the same amount of respect."

Ryff said the department is investigating how the video got on the air, who watched it and who edited it. He wouldn't discuss whether there would be any punishment for those involved.

The chief said that he hadn't been able to contact Schoville, a 25-year veteran of the Tempe force, because the officer is on vacation. A message was left with the department seeking comment from the sergeant.

Because the men in the video were not cited, Tempe police had no record of their names.

Associated Press Writer Terry Tang contributed to this report.

Stormtracker TF
12-03-2006, 11:45 AM
:rotflmao: You have GOT to be kidding me.

EmoJoe
12-03-2006, 12:34 PM
:rofl: OMG

Courtnee
12-03-2006, 12:55 PM
:rofl: *posts on myspace*

do you have a link, btw?

DarkLordDotan
12-03-2006, 01:04 PM
Why does this remind me of that one episode of M*A*S*H*?

lilhave
12-03-2006, 01:35 PM
:rofl: *posts on myspace*

do you have a link, btw?

Front page of AOL

Harvey

Courtnee
12-03-2006, 01:53 PM
Front page of AOL

Harvey
sweet, thanks :)

Lamont
12-03-2006, 04:33 PM
ACTUALLY, I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to rap for a cop IF it got me out of a ticket

was it racist? yes, BUT to me it was STILL Better than getting a ticket!

dragster58
12-03-2006, 05:24 PM
Well at least there wasn't any shooting this time!!!!

jie3
12-03-2006, 06:01 PM
I was shocked when I saw that.

Years of trying to overcome racism, then you get this from someone who should be setting an example.

Idiot.:crazy:

J

Hollow
12-03-2006, 06:26 PM
:rotflmao: i would have paid to see that. oh my god..

Cactus Jack
12-03-2006, 06:29 PM
:rotflmao:That RULES

Jrnygrl
12-03-2006, 09:36 PM
I was shocked when I saw that.

Years of trying to overcome racism, then you get this from someone who should be setting an example.

Idiot.:crazy:

J

You seem to be the only one who made a rational post regarding what happened.

jie3
12-03-2006, 10:52 PM
You seem to be the only one who made a rational post regarding what happened.

I think that's because on the face of it, the video looked harmless enough, just a bit of fun, but would that officer have asked two white guys to do the same thing?

I think not.

J

Lamont
12-03-2006, 11:08 PM
i think maybe the cops were "playing it up" since it was being filmed and thought they were being entertaining.

Stormtracker TF
12-03-2006, 11:10 PM
I think that's because on the face of it, the video looked harmless enough, just a bit of fun, but would that officer have asked two white guys to do the same thing?

I think not.

J
If you even take offense to it at all, that's more of a stereotyping thing than racism.

Seriously, this is almost as stupid as getting mad over as the whole "white guy can't jump" or "white guy can't dance" crap. If something similar to what was said in that video about white guy by a couple of black dudes, would anyone here be crying outrage?

Doubtful.

Now, I can't say I seen this video, but from the sound of it, yeah, really dumb thing to do on the Cops' part, probably crossed the line a tad bit, especially in times where everyone cries racism at even the slightest notion, but is it really all that noteworthy? Sounds to me like it was more of a joke than some white man talking down to a black man.

dawsongirl
12-04-2006, 01:15 AM
ACTUALLY, I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to rap for a cop IF it got me out of a ticket

was it racist? yes, BUT to me it was STILL Better than getting a ticket!
No kidding. Those two guys seemed more than happy to rap in exchange for no ticket. And c'mon...it was just littering anyway.

dawsongirl
12-04-2006, 01:16 AM
I think that's because on the face of it, the video looked harmless enough, just a bit of fun, but would that officer have asked two white guys to do the same thing?

I think not.

J
Well, white guys can't really rap anyway. They might have been asked to, I dunno, polka or something.

;)

jie3
12-04-2006, 01:41 AM
If you even take offense to it at all, that's more of a stereotyping thing than racism.


Ok, fair point, I suppose it does tie in more with stereotyping than all out racism, but sometimes there's a fine line between the two.