This is really annoying me....

I TiVo certain shows on TV Land (this is the only station I notice this happening), and then when I go back to watch the show, I find that the previous show has run over anywhere from 3-5 minutes. So what happens is the last 3-5 minutes of the show that I want to watch is cut off.

This is driving me nuts. I went through the shows on TV Land that I'd scheduled to record, and deleted them. It's a waste of time if I am not going to get to see the entire episode.

BTW, I love the old PAX network (I'm not sure what it's called now). They have some really good shows, and when I set the recorder to record...I always get the entire episode.

Why is TV Land doing this???

Increased commercial time, and to an extent to stop people from attempting to record their programming - there's this misguided belief in the entertainment industry that eyeballs later aren't as valuable as eyeballs now.

Well, in my case, they're getting no eyeballs. Fools.

Thanks for that information. That makes sense. I hadn't thought about it as being the commercials, but it makes sense.

I've practically quit watching TV Land for this reason, and I know I'm not going to record a single show they have on at Christmas. What these people don't seem to understand, is once I get on a channel, I usually leave it there for the evening...especially when the Xmas shows are on.

Well, they lost one viewer. I suppose they probably don't care. Oh well..

they're STILL doing that? i havent watched much of TV Land or Nick@Nite since August and they were doing it since June.

Well, in my case, they're getting no eyeballs. Fools.

Thanks for that information. That makes sense. I hadn't thought about it as being the commercials, but it makes sense.

I've practically quit watching TV Land for this reason, and I know I'm not going to record a single show they have on at Christmas. What these people don't seem to understand, is once I get on a channel, I usually leave it there for the evening...especially when the Xmas shows are on.

Well, they lost one viewer. I suppose they probably don't care. Oh well..


Can you do this with TIVO? Let's say a TV show on TV Land starts at 11pm, can you set the TIVO to start at 10:58pm and stop at 11:49pm to make sure you get the entire program? That's what I do with my VCR

Unfortunately, a lot of channels do this. There's a few different scenarios on how you can get to the options screen for "fixing" this. If you're choosing the program you want to record from the on-screen guide, don't select "Record this showing," but go to "Season Pass & other options" instead. From there select "Options" next to "Record this episode," and then scroll down to "Stop Recording" and you can select various ranges from "1 minute late" to "3 hours late."

If you set-up your favorite shows in "Season Pass" go to your "Season Pass Manager," select the appropriate program and then choose "Change recording options." This will go to the same screen as mention above, but has a few more options as well.

The bad thing about this is let's say you want to record "Green Acres" on TV Land at 3:00pm. Well, because you're having to go over by 3-5 minutes, you're missing out on anything that you might want to Tivo at 3:30pm (unless it's on the same channel...).

Can you do this with TIVO? Let's say a TV show on TV Land starts at 11pm, can you set the TIVO to start at 10:58pm and stop at 11:49pm to make sure you get the entire program? That's what I do with my VCR

Yes, you can set it to record a specific time. But I have been recording some of these shows to put on DVD's. And by doing this, I won't be able to get four shows per DVD (half hour shows).

However, nothing that TV Land is showing is anything that I can't live without, so I am just not going to mess with it.

The bad thing about this is let's say you want to record "Green Acres" on TV Land at 3:00pm. Well, because you're having to go over by 3-5 minutes, you're missing out on anything that you might want to Tivo at 3:30pm (unless it's on the same channel...).

Thanks for all the information!

And by adjusting the time, that does happen, which is my problem. That, and by running over, I can't get what I want on a DVD. Plus, I don't really want to have 3-5 minutes of other shows at the beginning or the end of what I have recorded. And you never really know when they are going to do this. I find it very annoying. So I just don't record the shows, or watch TV Land.

Sometimes you have to wonder what bonehead thought of this. Like they think they can hold us captive, or watch everything when they air it. Fools. There's just too many other options on television these days, to deal with this sort of thing.

But thanks for all the information. It's good to know should I decide to tape something that I know is going to run over, or to make sure I get something recorded in case I don't know it's going to run over. :)

they're STILL doing that? i havent watched much of TV Land or Nick@Nite since August and they were doing it since June.

I haven't watched much of TV Land or Nick@Nite either (although I didn't know this has been going on so long), and I won't be watching it in the future. I think they think they are so clever by doing this...but they aren't. TV Land and Nick@Nite have both gone downhill over the past few years...IMO.

I very, very rarely watch TV Land any more either... perfect example as to why:
Last night, I went to bed about 11:00 pm... we have Comcast Digital cable, and I scrolled through the channels and saw that Star Trek was coming on TV Land, and it's starting time was listed as 11:00... so I put TV Land on, and the Cosby Show was on...it was now 11:01... at about 11:02, the Cosby Show went off... SEVEN minutes later, at 11:09, TV Land was STILL running commercials, and hadn't even gotten to Star Trek yet... the on-screen guide did not list which episode was going to air, so I wanted to see which one it was... I never did... after 7 minutes of commericals, and STILL not getting to the next program, I threw in a Hogan's Heroes DVD and watched that.

TV Land long ago forgot what made them popular in the first place... but it's ok... practically the only shows they air are already available on DVD for anyone who wants them... we really don't need TV Land anymore... at least I don't... I couldn't care less what Farrah Fawcett is doing these days, or Mr. T for that matter.

That's pretty much it for TV Land for me... I love Star Trek TOS, but when I watched a couple of episodes that aired during the marathon that one weekend, I couldn't believe how badly TV Land shredded the episodes... I'm not a 'trekkie" by any means, but even I could tell how much dialogue had been cut out...including key dialog that was important to the stories.

I very, very rarely watch TV Land any more either... perfect example as to why:
Last night, I went to bed about 11:00 pm... we have Comcast Digital cable, and I scrolled through the channels and saw that Star Trek was coming on TV Land, and it's starting time was listed as 11:00... so I put TV Land on, and the Cosby Show was on...it was now 11:01... at about 11:02, the Cosby Show went off... SEVEN minutes later, at 11:09, TV Land was STILL running commercials, and hadn't even gotten to Star Trek yet... the on-screen guide did not list which episode was going to air, so I wanted to see which one it was... I never did... after 7 minutes of commericals, and STILL not getting to the next program, I threw in a Hogan's Heroes DVD and watched that.

TV Land long ago forgot what made them popular in the first place... but it's ok... practically the only shows they air are already available on DVD for anyone who wants them... we really don't need TV Land anymore... at least I don't... I couldn't care less what Farrah Fawcett is doing these days, or Mr. T for that matter.

That's pretty much it for TV Land for me... I love Star Trek TOS, but when I watched a couple of episodes that aired during the marathon that one weekend, I couldn't believe how badly TV Land shredded the episodes... I'm not a 'trekkie" by any means, but even I could tell how much dialogue had been cut out...including key dialog that was important to the stories.

YES!!!! That is what I have noticed. I see that a show starts at a particular hour. The show that is airing in the previous half-hour, finishes right at the hour or one minute later as you stated. THEN!!!! A BAJILLION COMMERCIALS before the show I want to watch airs almost ten minutes AFTER the hour!!!!! $%&#@^*@#!!@# TVLAND!~~~~~!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

TV Land long ago forgot what made them popular in the first place... but it's ok... practically the only shows they air are already available on DVD for anyone who wants them... we really don't need TV Land anymore...

I agree. They have forgotten. And they must think that we're all a bunch of idiots if we're going to sit there and deal with this. There's just too many options out there these days....

I am so freaking over this crap! The Jeffersons starting at 10:05 and 10:38 is ridiculous(and it's even worse at 2am). It is scheduled for 10:00 and 10:30... RUN IT THEN! Every other network does. :rolleyes: :angryfire

ugh, at least when TBS used to do "Turner Time," they'd at least TELL you what time the show started. I know networks need commercial time, but this is just absolutely ridiculous.

ugh, at least when TBS used to do "Turner Time," they'd at least TELL you what time the show started. I know networks need commercial time, but this is just absolutely ridiculous.


Yes, I remember that...they would start ALL of their programming at 5 after the hour or half hour... I don't really know why they did that, I assumed that it was a way to separate their shows in the TV Guide listings from the other show, since the number of cable channels covered in TV Guide was getting out of hand, and it was getting more difficult to get "noticed"

But you're correct...at least Turner made it clear that "hey, this is what time we're starting our programs"

Even BBC America, which runs some classic Britcoms in the afternoons, has it in their schedule that Keeping Up Appearances starts at 3:20 pm, and runs 40 minutes (these programs are actually just under 30 minutes, so they're aired in their entirety, with about 10 min of commericals added).

What TV Land is doing now might be the first time in TV history that a network treated the starting time of their programs as classified information.

I was almost done watching TV Land's regular programming even before they did this...now I AM done. DVDs are just so much nicer.

What TV Land is doing now might be the first time in TV history that a network treated the starting time of their programs as classified information.

LOL...that's no joke. And wouldn't you love to know what bonehead came up with this idea? Like this is really a way to keep viewers tuning in? We don't have a clue when the show will start...idiots!

Sometimes these programming wizards think they are so darn clever. Who do they run this by before hoisting this on their viewers?

Lifetime movie network has weird starting times for their movies (example 4:47) but it is LISTED THIS WAY ON THE GUIDE ON THE SCREEN.

LOL...that's no joke. And wouldn't you love to know what bonehead came up with this idea? Like this is really a way to keep viewers tuning in? We don't have a clue when the show will start...idiots!

Sometimes these programming wizards think they are so darn clever. Who do they run this by before hoisting this on their viewers?



Might be the same guy who was responsible for the 1992 Olympics "Triplecast". *





* - For those of you out there who might be too young to remember, the following is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplecast

"...the Olympics Triplecast, was an experimental pay-per-view telecast in the United States during the 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona, Spain.

NBC, which had broadcast rights to the Games, thought that people would pay $95 to $170 to see events live, which would normally be shown on tape delay on the network in prime time. By the time the games began, relatively few people had ordered the package, which featured Red, White and Blue channels.

The Blue channel featured swimming events during the first week, and track and field events during the second week. The White channel featured many individual sports, such as gymnastics, boxing, rowing, equestrian and other minor sports. The Red channel featured team sports, such as basketball, baseball, volleyball, water polo, and team handball.

By the middle of the Games, they simulcast the Triplecast on CNBC utilizing a three-way split screen during several hour-long blocks. This was an apparent attempt to boost sagging sales in what amounted to an infomercial.

NBC, which partnered with Cablevision for the experiment, would lose millions of dollars, with one estimate putting their losses at $100 million." <END OF EXCERPT>


I remember, for a few years afterward, we'd occasionally see a cartoon or a comic strip, showing some homeless bum on the street, and the action in the cartoon would identify the bum as "the guy from NBC who invented the Olympics Triplecast".

Might be the same guy who was responsible for the 1992 Olympics "Triplecast".

LOL...I'd completely forgotten about that deal. The things these idiots come up with is mind boggling. Do they think the viewers are stupid?