Greetings,

Just watched the Tina Resch segment. It's one of the most intriguing I've seen on UM.

Here are a few links I found while cruising the Net you guys might find interesting:

http://jamesaconrad.tripod.com/Tina-Resch-Boyer-case.html

http://www.paraview.com/roll/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Resch

Cheers

thanks for posting that, GG2. I checked out the wikipedia article (wikipedia is an extremely informative website that I visit often) and was intrigued to learn that perhaps maybe Tina is innocent in her daughter's death. Still another unsolved mystery within an unsolved mystery.

It's been awhile since I've seen the segment, but I just acquired it so maybe I'll have more to say when I have time to watch the segment.

[QUOTE=greatgarrett2]It's one of the most intriguing I've seen on UM./QUOTE]

It's one of the most unintentionally funny segments I've ever seen. I just re-watched it yesterday. I don't remember laughing so hard the previous times I watched the segment. As serious as UM was most of the time, every once in a while it would have an unintentionally funny moment.

Watching that alarm clock go haywire managed to pull off the rare feat of being both funny and creepy at the same time. One laugh out loud moment for me was when the mother was in the kitchen and a glass flew about the room and she (accustomed to it by now) yells "JJJJJOOOOHHHHNNN". Oh, and the tv picture staying on even after the mother turned if off AND unplugged it. Hilarious.

Reminds me of a similar segment where a lady who was also believed to have telekinetic powers was ironing a shirt and was pretty mad at the time and the iron was getting unusually hot, and then she discovered it wasn't plugged in!

Anyways, I've been mulling it over lately and I've concluded that I think Tina did have telekinetic powers. They seem to have subsided by now, but I think she had them at one point. The segment stated that the explanation she gave for staging the falling lamp (to get the media off her back) seemed to satisfy most of her critics.

Reminds me of a similar segment where a lady who was also believed to have telekinetic powers was ironing a shirt and was pretty mad at the time and the iron was getting unusually hot, and then she discovered it wasn't plugged in!

That was Janine Price who also predicted the death of her sister.....

And, I can't forget the egg breaking behind the actor who played John Resch in the Tina Resch segment.

And they also claimed that the egg went THROUGH THE REFRIGERATOR DOOR and flew across the room. Oh, please......

Next time you watch the segment, watch for this. It's funny as heck.

Dear Folks-
Please read up on Tina's case by googling Tina Resch Boyer and reading what James Conrad has posted.
What TracyLynnS says is absolutely correct.
I have personally contacted Tina and am actively working to get this victim of outrageous and horrendous circumstances freed.
I appeal to all of you who have expressed an interest here to get involved. I can assure you first hand that she never sought media attention and that her paranormal case was genuine. My friend who got me involved in this case collaborated with Dr Roll before his death.
Tina was coerced into signing the Alford plea. She was medicated, grieving, alone. The monster who did this to her child was convicted of NEGLECT and has already been freed after serving a 20 year sentence. He is on the streets of Carrolton, Georgia, while she, the victim, is serving life+20. As a mother, I can imagine nothing more devastating than the loss of a child - to lose your child at the hand of a man you thought loved you both, her boyfriend, learning that he had sodomized the child repeatedly before delivering a fatal blow to the head - goes far beyond anything I could possibly imagine.
Please, please, please, do anything in your power to help this poor woman. Currently we are trying to find a pro-bono lawyer to take her case - after 20 years, most anyone she knew on the outside has since died: the parapsychologist, her lawyer....
Her adoptive family was abusive, so whether any of them are still alive is immaterial since she wisely severed contact with them by moving to Georgia.
She is alone in the world. She has us, her virtual community, active in the Free Tina movement and her cellmates, who, she reports, are often woman whose children have died so she feels that God has put her there to be able to offer them comfort and comprehension.
You can write to her directly, write to the Georgia Parole Board, join our Facebook group to keep abreast of the actions we are taking.
Thank you for you concern!

And they also claimed that the egg went THROUGH THE REFRIGERATOR DOOR and flew across the room. Oh, please......

Next time you watch the segment, watch for this. It's funny as heck.
I know! LOL.I always wanted to see the door.I thought it'd have holes in it,if true.but then i noticed the way it was depicted,as if they slid thru.
Come on now...Tina THREW the eggs when her mother wasn't looking!

If it is a hoax, it's got to be the among the strangest hoaxes yet. I mean, I was once a teenager and as a teenager, I was pretty unbearable to be around, but the idea of trying to convince my parents I had supernatural powers never occured to me. Aren't there easier ways of screwing with your parents without pretending to be Carrie White?

I think her parents were pretty gullible,and Tina was good with slight-of-hand.I really think they didn't want to believe she was doing it,and were looking for any other explanation possible.

Oh I'm fairly certain that Tina was just screwing with her parents but I still think this has to be the strangest hoax ever. As said before, aren't there easier ways of screwing with your parents that don't involve pretending to have supernatural powers?

well...I think she was quite passive-aggressive.and if you watch the segment again,Tina tells the viewers exactly why she started doing it..she was angry that her teachers were making a big deal about taking her out of the room to give her the meds she needed,instead of just quietly giving them to her.
And then her mother asks if they actually saw Tina throwing the objects,and they said no.I'm guessing just one thing led to another and since she got away w it at school,she started doing it at home whenever she got angry or frustrated.JMO though.Ppl have different ways of coping/taking out frustrations when they want to irritate someone else.

If you read the book by Resch's researchers, there were far too many witnesses for a hoax to have been perpetrated.

If you read the book by Resch's researchers, there were far too many witnesses for a hoax to have been perpetrated.

She admitted to hoaxing and even got caught perpetrating one of the hoaxes. The following thread has only 12 posts but has a lot of information about Tina during and after the supernatural activity she claimed was happening. Please read it if you get the chance.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=295745&highlight=tina+resch

Part of a post I made in the linked thread:

Just watched the segment again. A newspaper reporter and his photographer, were invited by the family to interview Tina regarding all the unexplained activity that was happening around her. The photographer snapped the famous flying phone picture.

Once that photo was published, paranormal investigators jumped on the case, requesting permission to study Tina. She admits right in the segment that she faked the episode with the lamp at her mother's urging.

Stack: Tina Resch became a media sensation. One of the reporters generated a different kind of headline when he and his crew caught Tina in the act of hoaxing an episode.

Tina: They kept telling my mother, "Well we're not gonna leave unless we see something happen". And my mom said, "Alright, something's got to happen," because she's getting tired of this and she's not the type of person to be pushy and tell them to leave. So I sat on the chair and knocked the lamp over. My mom [had taken] me in the other room and she said, "We've got to do something," and I said, "okay".

I saw Bigfoot in my backyard last week and a bunch of other people saw it too, so it must have happened.

Another unintentionally funny moment during that segment was when the mother was describing something that occurred in front of the children. Been a while since I viewed this segment but the line i always remember from it was when the mother said, in all seriousness, "They thought it was a real treat!"

Another unintentionally funny moment during that segment was when the mother was describing something that occurred in front of the children. Been a while since I viewed this segment but the line i always remember from it was when the mother said, in all seriousness, "They thought it was a real treat!"

:lol:

Didn't William Roll (my favorite person on UM besides Robert Stack) believe her story?

I saw Bigfoot in my backyard last week and a bunch of other people saw it too, so it must have happened.

The local newspaper reporter and photographer saw the incidents occur right in front of them. An electrician saw the incidents with Tina in plain sight, 2 priests witnessed the phenomenon.... exactly how many people are in on this ruse?

It would be one thing if only the family laid claim to the incidents, but 10-15 people in all saw things that could not be explained and Tina was in view for almost all these occurrences.

Randi wrote her off as a fake using photographs that were not connected to the incidents reported, such as the couch moving and a chandelier moving.

Again, I implore you to read the book before you totally close your mind on this supernatural phenomenon!

Dig a little deeper into who these "witnesses" were. Who were they? What are their names? What is their version of what happened?

Dig a little deeper into who these "witnesses" were. Who were they? What are their names? What is their version of what happened?

They are all listed by name in the Unleashed book. Their accounts are all included.

I'm writing a report on this case and will be sharing it soon. Maybe it will help explain the situation better.

I am a huge (albeit skeptical) fan of the paranormal and one of my favorite podcasts interviewed James Randi specifically about the Tina Resch case.

Although I encourage you to listen to it, here's a link to the transcript:

http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/10/07/21/transcript/

From all that I read on Tina, I feel very sorry for her. I usually don't have any sympathy for anyone in jail for murder but I honestly just believe she's in jail for making a bad judgment call. She was abandoned by her parents, adopted into a household she never felt loved and kicked out at 17, got pregnant at 18, dated a guy that she didn't know was a pedophile and she made a bad judgment call of leaving her child in his care. She was only 22 and by her upbringing was probably emotionally more like 15 or 16. When she noticed a few bruises a few weeks before she obviously should have taken the child to the doctor but she feared the child would taken away. She had only known abusive relationships and who knows what she was told as to how the bruises occurred. Its tragic because the actual and admitted pedophile and killer is now free and yet she sits in jail. She wasn't even there when the murder occurred. She needed a lot of counseling, parenting skills, and cognitive skills not life in prison. Just plain sad.

From all that I read on Tina, I feel very sorry for her. I usually don't have any sympathy for anyone in jail for murder but I honestly just believe she's in jail for making a bad judgment call. She was abandoned by her parents, adopted into a household she never felt loved and kicked out at 17, got pregnant at 18, dated a guy that she didn't know was a pedophile and she made a bad judgment call of leaving her child in his care. She was only 22 and by her upbringing was probably emotionally more like 15 or 16. When she noticed a few bruises a few weeks before she obviously should have taken the child to the doctor but she feared the child would taken away. She had only known abusive relationships and who knows what she was told as to how the bruises occurred. Its tragic because the actual and admitted pedophile and killer is now free and yet she sits in jail. She wasn't even there when the murder occurred. She needed a lot of counseling, parenting skills, and cognitive skills not life in prison. Just plain sad.

+1

James Randi might want to place most of the blame for Tina's outcome on William Roll (and I do agree with some of Mr. Randi's assessment to a point), but really, the entire sum of her life from Day 1 up until the conviction played into it. I don't think she should be in jail at all, either.

I still can't believe the actual rapist/murderer got less time in prison than Tina did! How did that even happen?

James Randi also implied he thinks Tina did it because she thought she could get away with anything (at least in the article I read) because of the what she got away with faking the paranormal ability. William Roll was amazing to Tina and took her in as an adult after her adopted family kicked her out at 17. His research into energy fields is amazing and has a great reputation. James Randi (who I do agree with on a few topics) is wrong on this issue though.

I think that Randi believes that he encouraged her to get a book out of the deal (which he did) which is basically the story of her life: She was encouraged to 'perform' by various parties to make them money or publicity and I believed that she enjoyed the attention.

I don't know William Roll but I wonder if his research on 'energy fields' has been published in reputable peer reviewed journals on the topic. Does he have a great reputation with physicists?

I don't know William Roll but I wonder if his research on 'energy fields' has been published in reputable peer reviewed journals on the topic. Does he have a great reputation with physicists?

No, and no. I think "woo woo" is probably the consensus on that one.

No, and no. I think "woo woo" is probably the consensus on that one.

Here... This girl.... This girl gets it.

I'm not a big believer in James Randi....but in this case I don't know what to believe anymore. Both sides seem to have evidence on their side.

Aside from whom you side with whether James Randi or William Roll, with her upbringing and foster parents, I'm quite certain she would've had issues as an adult without the proper help regardless. As I said before, the tragedy started when Tina was abandoned by her birth parents and continued throughout her life.

I'm not a big believer in James Randi....but in this case I don't know what to believe anymore. Both sides seem to have evidence on their side.

There is ample and readily available evidence that she faked her "abilities". All of them. In fact, Roll never once himself witnessed any of the tricks. She has been caught, time and time again, faking it.

What do you not believe about Randi? The photos he obtained from the Columbus Dispatch clearly showing the hoaxing? James Randi is not making a claim contrary to all known science, rather, he is taking the "null" position.

I'm not a big believer in James Randi....but in this case I don't know what to believe anymore. Both sides seem to have evidence on their side.

I don't think there is really anything to believe in, per se, when it comes to James Randi. All he offers is "Prove it." I personally find him rather arrogant, uncivil, and on occasion, reprehensibly juvenile. But he does little else than ask those like William Roll to behave like scientists. I think that's not only a good thing, but a great thing.

I don't think there is a shred of evidence to support anything William Roll ever theorized about Tina Resch.

I don't think there is really anything to believe in, per se, when it comes to James Randi. All he offers is "Prove it." I personally find him rather arrogant, uncivil, and on occasion, reprehensibly juvenile. But he does little else than ask those like William Roll to behave like scientists. I think that's not only a good thing, but a great thing.

I don't think there is a shred of evidence to support anything William Roll ever theorized about Tina Resch.

A few years ago I was stationed at Fort Leonard Wood MO (out of the Army as of last May!) and Skepticon was being held in Springfield. My father was in town for deer season but we took a couple of days to go and check out the speakers and mingle and such.

Interestingly, there was a gun show next door and fundies protesting outside.

Anyway, between speakers nature called and I went to the gent's. My wife and father were waiting outside in the lobby of the convention center talking to paranormal show token skeptic Joe Nickle. By the way, he was very nice and very accommodating and did a great talk on The Flatwoods Monster. He gave my wife his business card wooden nickle that she treasures to this day.
I'm standing at a urinal doing my thing and I happen to look next to me. Lo and behold, it's James Randi. I couldn't sum up the bravery to say anything to him "mid stream", both of us organs in our hands.

I regret that to this day. I wish I would have extended a hand right over the partition for a hearty handshake. I have a feeling he would have reciprocated it.

Growing up in Korea he was quite famous and well liked. He was always on TV testing dowsing or some other wackiness. He was not as abrasive as he can be now but we may have toned it down for the Korean audience.

As much as I admire him, I do agree that at times he can be uncivil especially when he deals with the likes of Sylvia Brown.

lol PKB, That urinal story has me laughing so hard tears are streaming down my face!

I just re-watched this segment for the first time in quite a while and decided to do a quick search on Tina Resch. Wow! I had no idea she was in prison for killing her own child.

Damn I came here to post the link to the podcast featuring Randi talking about the Resch case. Had no idea it's already been found and mentioned.

Sorry to resurrect old threads, but I enjoy discussions on this website more, when you can scroll through everyone’s remarks.

Anyway, the forbidden website (https://youtu.be/hArK6LF-N0o?si=_B4CArORiDsVW7iH) has a video where they explore the Tina Resch case and how easy it would have been for her to fake the stuff she did.

Fascinating video…though once again, I do shake my head at all this. I was once an angry depressed teenager, and I don’t deny that I was probably a pill to be around, but it never occurred to me to fake superpowers. Why did Tina’s foster parents’ thoughts go to “poltergeist” rather than “Tina’s throwing stuff around when we’re not looking” anyway? Most of us, when we hear hoofbeats, think horses first, not zebras.

I don't think there is really anything to believe in, per se, when it comes to James Randi. All he offers is "Prove it." I personally find him rather arrogant, uncivil, and on occasion, reprehensibly juvenile. But he does little else than ask those like William Roll to behave like scientists. I think that's not only a good thing, but a great thing.

I don't think there is a shred of evidence to support anything William Roll ever theorized about Tina Resch.

I have no problems with Randi. I know he can come across as smug at times, but I personally enjoy his stuff. Exposing obvious charlatans is always a good thing. I especially liked his stuff on Uri Gellar and James Hydrick.