I know the Lost Episodes were released to cable tv in 1985 but I didn't get a chance to see which episodes they decided to show. Does any one know from all the Lost Episodes that were available at that time how many of them did they show on cable and how many still have not been seen by the public
since their first broadcast in the 50'S?

I know the Lost Episodes were released to cable tv in 1985 but I didn't get a chance to see which episodes they decided to show. Does any one know from all the Lost Episodes that were available at that time how many of them did they show on cable and how many still have not been seen by the public
since their first broadcast in the 50'S?


One of the lost eps was when Ralph chased Norton inside a Bedroom and then said-"come out of there norton" and Norton said-"No ralph you're going to hurt me" Don't know the title of this ep

I know the Lost Episodes were released to cable tv in 1985 but I didn't get a chance to see which episodes they decided to show. Does any one know from all the Lost Episodes that were available at that time how many of them did they show on cable and how many still have not been seen by the public since their first broadcast in the 50'S?
I don't know an exact number but I know a good portion of the material that's out there now wasn't available then, so those particular shows couldn't have been aired. Even when the WB11 here in New York used to show the Lost Episodes (along with the Classic 39) late at night, they only played a certain number of them, and it was mostly the longer ones. Episodes like "Lost Baby," "Quiz Show," and "Stars Over Flatbush" didn't come to light until the early 90's, much like how the original "Love Letter" wasn't unveiled until a couple years ago. And if I'm not mistaken, "Lost Baby" and "Quiz Show" were only shown on certain specials when they were first "discovered," they never made it to reruns.

One of the lost eps was when Ralph chased Norton inside a Bedroom and then said-"come out of there norton" and Norton said-"No ralph you're going to hurt me" Don't know the title of this ep
I'm pretty sure I answered your question about this before. It was either "Battle Of The Sexes" or "Peacemaker," but that doesn't really have to do with what he's asking.

I don't know an exact number but I know a good portion of the material that's out there now wasn't available then, so those particular shows couldn't have been aired. Even when the WB11 here in New York used to show the Lost Episodes (along with the Classic 39) late at night, they only played a certain number of them, and it was mostly the longer ones. Episodes like "Lost Baby," "Quiz Show," and "Stars Over Flatbush" didn't come to light until the early 90's, much like how the original "Love Letter" wasn't unveiled until a couple years ago. And if I'm not mistaken, "Lost Baby" and "Quiz Show" were only shown on certain specials when they were first "discovered," they never made it to reruns.


I'm pretty sure I answered your question about this before. It was either "Battle Of The Sexes" or "Peacemaker," but that doesn't really have to do with what he's asking.

Thanks for answering my question. It's interesting to know that even to this day they haven't shown on tv all the Honeymooners episodes that are in existence. It's a good thing that us fans have dvds to rely on and the only thing we need now is for MPI to release all the episodes they have. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! :)

I know the Lost Episodes were released to cable tv in 1985 but I didn't get a chance to see which episodes they decided to show. Does any one know from all the Lost Episodes that were available at that time how many of them did they show on cable and how many still have not been seen by the public
since their first broadcast in the 50'S?

There were 68 Lost Episodes shown by SHOWTIME starting in 1985. I just checked my SHOWTIME "Lost Episodes" guide which I saved.

I don't know an exact number but I know a good portion of the material that's out there now wasn't available then, so those particular shows couldn't have been aired. Even when the WB11 here in New York used to show the Lost Episodes (along with the Classic 39) late at night, they only played a certain number of them, and it was mostly the longer ones. Episodes like "Lost Baby," "Quiz Show," and "Stars Over Flatbush" didn't come to light until the early 90's, much like how the original "Love Letter" wasn't unveiled until a couple years ago. And if I'm not mistaken, "Lost Baby" and "Quiz Show" were only shown on certain specials when they were first "discovered," they never made it to reruns.

Bill S., a minor correction: It's true "Lost Baby" and "Quiz Show" didn't see air-time until the 90's, but "Stars Over Flatbush" was one of the 68 episodes shown on SHOWTIME beginning in 1985. I double-checked my SHOWTIME guide which I had tucked away. :wave:

There were 68 Lost Episodes shown by SHOWTIME starting in 1985. I just checked my SHOWTIME "Lost Episodes" guide which I saved.

Thanks a million for your input! Those were the specifics I was after. :D

Bill S., a minor correction: It's true "Lost Baby" and "Quiz Show" didn't see air-time until the 90's, but "Stars Over Flatbush" was one of the 68 episodes shown on SHOWTIME beginning in 1985. I double-checked my SHOWTIME guide which I had tucked away. :wave:
Hmm...I must've gotten it confused with something else. I'm pretty sure there was some issue about "Stars Over Flatbush" though, something about it not being included in the first VHS release of the Lost Episodes or something like that, I'll have to look into it.

BTW VIDEOWACK, does it list all of the 68 episodes in that guide?

BTW VIDEOWACK, does it list all of the 68 episodes in that guide?

Good question! I would like to know this myself.

Are these the 68 lost eps that were shown in local synication during mid 80"S?

BTW VIDEOWACK, does it list all of the 68 episodes in that guide?

Yes, it does list all 68 that SHOWTIME aired.

Are these the 68 lost eps that were shown in local synication during mid 80"S?

These were the initial 68 "Lost Eps" that SHOWTIME secured the rights to following the "discovery" of the kinescopes in Gleason's vault. SHOWTIME started airing them in 1985.

Yes, it does list all 68 that SHOWTIME aired.
Would you mind typing up the list for us when you get a chance? I'm curious to know which episodes were included and which ones weren't. Thanks. :wave:

Yes, it does list all 68 that SHOWTIME aired.
Would you be willing to post that information on this message board?

Would you mind typing up the list for us when you get a chance? I'm curious to know which episodes were included and which ones weren't. Thanks. :wave:

Here's the list of original SHOWTIME "Lost Eps" taken directly from their guide. I don't know if they aired in this order, but here they are:

VACATION AT FRED'S LANDING (6/27/53)
HOT DOG STAND (10/10/53)
LETTER TO THE BOSS (11/14/53)
SANTA AND THE BOOKIES (12/12/53)
HONEYMOONERS CHRISTMAS PARTY (12/19/53)
HONEYMOONERS NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY (12/26/53)
THIS IS YOUR LIFE (1/16/54)
COTTAGE FOR SALE (1/23/54)
THE NEXT CHAMP (4/10/54)
MOVE UPTOWN (4/24/54)
THE MAN IN THE BLUE SUIT (5/1/54)
HAIR RAISING TAIL (5/8/54)
BOXTOP KID (5/22/54)
TWO MEN ON A HORSE (5/29/54)
GOOD BUY AUNT ETHEL (6/5/54)
RALPH'S SWEET TOOTH (9/25/54)
GAME CALLED ON ACCOUNT OF MARRIAGE (10/2/54)
THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE (10/23/54)
BATTLE OF THE SEXES (11/13/54)
TEAMWORK BEAT THE CLOCK (11/20/54)
THE BROTHER-IN-LAW (11/27/54)
KRAMDEN VS. NORTON (1/15/55)
A PROMOTION (1/22/55)
THE HYPNOTIST (1/29/55)
CUPID (2/5/55)
A LITTLE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE (2/12/55)
HERO (2/19/55)
THE GREAT JEWEL ROBBERY (2/26/55)
PEACEMAKER (3/5/55)
THE ADOPTION (3/26/55)
STARS OVER FLATBUSH (4/2/55)
A WEIGHTY PROBLEM (4/16/55)
BOYS AND GIRLS TOGETHER (4/23/55)
PRINCIPAL OF THE THING (4/30/55)
SONGS AND WITTY SAYINGS (5/14/55)
LOVE LETTER (11/24/56)
FINDERS KEEPERS (12/8/56)
CATCH A STAR (12/15/56)
MY FAIR LANDLORD (1/19/57)
STAND IN FOR MURDER (4/17/54)

The following are "combo" episodes (shorter sketches shown together as one broadcast. I've separated each airing of a group with a space:

FORGOT TO REGISTER (10/27/56)
COLD (11/1/52)
THE PICKLES (11/6/52)

TWO FAMILY CAR (11/17/56)
ALICE'S AUNT ETHEL (3/14/53)

EXPECTANT FATHER (11/3/56)
HALLOWEEN PARTY (10/31/53)
WHAT'S HER NAME? (3/21/53)

LUCKY NUMBER (9/26/53)
GLOW WORM CLEANING (6/27/53)

NORTON MOVES IN (4/18/53)
GUEST SPEAKER (6/13/53)

CHAMPAGNE AND CAVIAR (11/7/53)
JELLYBEANS (11/22/52)
THE CHECK-UP (10/20/56)

FINGER MAN (11/28/53)
TWO TICKETS TO THIS FIGHT (11/28/53)
LOST JOB (1/31/53)

GOODNIGHT SWEET PRINCE (11/10/56)
INCOME TAX (3/7/53)

RALPH'S DIET (4/25/53)
THE PROWLER (6/6/53)

DOUBLE ANNIVERSARY PARTY (10/13/56)
ALICE PLAYS CUPID (1/17/53)

SUSPENSE (1/24/53)
THE DINNER GUEST (5/2/53)
LUNCH BOX (3/28/53)

ANNIVERSARY GIFT (2/21/53)
HOT TIPS (4/11/53)
MANAGER OF BASEBALL TEAM (5/9/53)

CHAMPAGNE AND CAVIAR (11/7/53)
JELLYBEANS (11/22/52)
THE CHECK-UP (10/20/56)



I thought Jellybeans was still missing :confused:

Thanks VIDEOWACK, but I noticed that there's 70 episodes on that list...:confused:

I thought Jellybeans was still missing
You must've mistaken it for something else, that's one of the first Lost Episodes I remember seeing.

You must've mistaken it for something else, that's one of the first Lost Episodes I remember seeing.

The Turkey was the one I was thinking of. I knew it was an early one. For some reason Jellybeans is the one I thought of.

Thanks VIDEOWACK, but I noticed that there's 70 episodes on that list...:confused:

OK, I mis-counted originally.

Here's the list of original SHOWTIME "Lost Eps" taken directly from their guide. I don't know if they aired in this order, but here they are:

VACATION AT FRED'S LANDING (6/27/53)
HOT DOG STAND (10/10/53)
LETTER TO THE BOSS (11/14/53)
SANTA AND THE BOOKIES (12/12/53)
HONEYMOONERS CHRISTMAS PARTY (12/19/53)
HONEYMOONERS NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY (12/26/53)
THIS IS YOUR LIFE (1/16/54)
COTTAGE FOR SALE (1/23/54)
THE NEXT CHAMP (4/10/54)
MOVE UPTOWN (4/24/54)
THE MAN IN THE BLUE SUIT (5/1/54)
HAIR RAISING TAIL (5/8/54)
BOXTOP KID (5/22/54)
TWO MEN ON A HORSE (5/29/54)
GOOD BUY AUNT ETHEL (6/5/54)
RALPH'S SWEET TOOTH (9/25/54)
GAME CALLED ON ACCOUNT OF MARRIAGE (10/2/54)
THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE (10/23/54)
BATTLE OF THE SEXES (11/13/54)
TEAMWORK BEAT THE CLOCK (11/20/54)
THE BROTHER-IN-LAW (11/27/54)
KRAMDEN VS. NORTON (1/15/55)
A PROMOTION (1/22/55)
THE HYPNOTIST (1/29/55)
CUPID (2/5/55)
A LITTLE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE (2/12/55)
HERO (2/19/55)
THE GREAT JEWEL ROBBERY (2/26/55)
PEACEMAKER (3/5/55)
THE ADOPTION (3/26/55)
STARS OVER FLATBUSH (4/2/55)
A WEIGHTY PROBLEM (4/16/55)
BOYS AND GIRLS TOGETHER (4/23/55)
PRINCIPAL OF THE THING (4/30/55)
SONGS AND WITTY SAYINGS (5/14/55)
LOVE LETTER (11/24/56)
FINDERS KEEPERS (12/8/56)
CATCH A STAR (12/15/56)
MY FAIR LANDLORD (1/19/57)
STAND IN FOR MURDER (4/17/54)

The following are "combo" episodes (shorter sketches shown together as one broadcast. I've separated each airing of a group with a space:

FORGOT TO REGISTER (10/27/56)
COLD (11/1/52)
THE PICKLES (11/6/52)

TWO FAMILY CAR (11/17/56)
ALICE'S AUNT ETHEL (3/14/53)

EXPECTANT FATHER (11/3/56)
HALLOWEEN PARTY (10/31/53)
WHAT'S HER NAME? (3/21/53)

LUCKY NUMBER (9/26/53)
GLOW WORM CLEANING (6/27/53)

NORTON MOVES IN (4/18/53)
GUEST SPEAKER (6/13/53)

CHAMPAGNE AND CAVIAR (11/7/53)
JELLYBEANS (11/22/52)
THE CHECK-UP (10/20/56)

FINGER MAN (11/28/53)
TWO TICKETS TO THIS FIGHT (11/28/53)
LOST JOB (1/31/53)

GOODNIGHT SWEET PRINCE (11/10/56)
INCOME TAX (3/7/53)

RALPH'S DIET (4/25/53)
THE PROWLER (6/6/53)

DOUBLE ANNIVERSARY PARTY (10/13/56)
ALICE PLAYS CUPID (1/17/53)

SUSPENSE (1/24/53)
THE DINNER GUEST (5/2/53)
LUNCH BOX (3/28/53)

ANNIVERSARY GIFT (2/21/53)
HOT TIPS (4/11/53)
MANAGER OF BASEBALL TEAM (5/9/53)
Thanks for posting the list!!! I appreciate it!

Okay, so I went through the list and these are the episodes that have been officially released but are missing from the SHOWTIME guide:

"Lost Baby" (10/11/52)
"Quiz Show" (10/18/52)
"Lawsuit" (3/27/54)
"What's The Name" (5/15/54)
"Vacation At Fred's Landing" (6/19/54)
"Halloween Party For The Boss" (10/30/54) (Still not released but MPI attempted more than once)
"Songwriters" (12/11/54) (This must've been what I got confused with "Stars Over Flatbush")
"One Big Happy Family" (4/9/55)
"Manager Of The Baseball Team" (6/1/57)

Okay, so I went through the list and these are the episodes that have been officially released but are missing from the SHOWTIME guide:

"Lost Baby" (10/11/52)
"Quiz Show" (10/18/52)
"Lawsuit" (3/27/54)
"What's The Name" (5/15/54)
"Vacation At Fred's Landing" (6/19/54)
"Halloween Party For The Boss" (10/30/54) (Still not released but MPI attempted more than once)
"Songwriters" (12/11/54) (This must've been what I got confused with "Stars Over Flatbush")
"One Big Happy Family" (4/9/55)
"Manager Of The Baseball Team" (6/1/57)

O.K., so we have VIDEOWACK's list of the 70 "Lost Eps" that were shown on SHOWTIME and your list of the 9 episodes that have been officially released but were not shown on cable tv, leaving us with 24 episodes that have not been seen since the 50's if I go by your comment of there being a total of
"103 Lost Eps" in existence that you posted in my other thread. I'm I right on this or did I misunderstand your previous explanation. :confused:

O.K., so we have VIDEOWACK's list of the 70 "Lost Eps" that were shown on SHOWTIME and your list of the 9 episodes that have been officially released but were not shown on cable tv, leaving us with 24 episodes that have not been seen since the 50's if I go by your comment of there being a total of
"103 Lost Eps" in existence that you posted in my other thread. I'm I right on this or did I misunderstand your previous explanation. :confused:
I explained it episode by episode here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/honeymooners/Stillost.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/honeymooners/europe.html

That makes up the 25 missing episodes (25 because the 1954 version of "Halloween Party" has yet to be released). The 8 Trip to Europe shows are easily available through collectors, as well as "New Bowling Ball," "Six Months To Live" (1952), "Sprained Thumb," and "Love Letter." The remaining 13 have not been seen by the public since their original air date, with the exception of the 1955 remake of "Stand In For Murder," which was shown at a R.A.L.P.H. convention in the 80's. Let me know if you have anymore questions.

I explained it episode by episode here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/honeymooners/Stillost.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/honeymooners/europe.html

That makes up the 25 missing episodes (25 because the 1954 version of "Halloween Party" has yet to be released). The 8 Trip to Europe shows are easily available through collectors, as well as "New Bowling Ball," "Six Months To Live" (1952), "Sprained Thumb," and "Love Letter." The remaining 13 have not been seen by the public since their original air date, with the exception of the 1955 remake of "Stand In For Murder," which was shown at a R.A.L.P.H. convention in the 80's. Let me know if you have anymore questions.

Excellent!!! Thanks a million! Now I understand the "Lost Eps" issue clearly and completely. And don't worry, I got many more questions to ask you but just a little each time so that I don't end up getting on your nerves. :D

Thanks for posting the list!!! I appreciate it!

You're very welcome! :wave:

You're very welcome! :wave:

You really must be a big-time Honeymooners fan to have saved that SHOWTIME programing list and all of us on this message board are glad that you shared the info. :)

Excellent!!! Thanks a million! Now I understand the "Lost Eps" issue clearly and completely. And don't worry, I got many more questions to ask you but just a little each time so that I don't end up getting on your nerves. :D
Haha, I don't think questions about the Honeymooners could ever get on my nerves. After all, if I didn't ask questions I wouldn't know most of the stuff I do today. :wave:

Haha, I don't think questions about the Honeymooners could ever get on my nerves. After all, if I didn't ask questions I wouldn't know most of the stuff I do today. :wave:

O.K. I guess I'll just look at it as if I'm enrolled in "Honeymooners College" taking classes with Professor Bill S. as the teacher with a PHD. in Honeymoonersology. :lol:

O.K. I guess I'll just look at it as if I'm enrolled in "Honeymooners College" taking classes with Professor Bill S. as the teacher with a PHD. in Honeymoonersology. :lol:
Hey, at least the classes aren't mandatory right? And homework was never this fun when I was in school. ;)

Hey, at least the classes aren't mandatory right? And homework was never this fun when I was in school. ;)

Har-har-hardy-har-har!!! :)